Do SOF and other special tactical groups get their own custom uniforms? Or do they just get the usual Cryes/Patagonia that is available on the commercial market?
Custom uniforms in SOF/law enforcement SOG
Do SOF and other special tactical groups get their own custom uniforms? Or do they just get the usual Cryes/Patagonia that is available on the commercial market?
They can, but generally not. The AC cryes are SF issued (literally "Army Custom", I believe they're G3s with a G2 fit), and I remember the Ausdev cryes that were all over ebay for a minute 10 years ago were an Australian SOF order with different sleeve pockets.
Army custom is literally just G2 cryes, but in another name. Their design is olde than the G3s, but are "designed" for army/navy shit. Unironically enough, they can be customized to whatever the department wants. FBI/U.S. marshals have their own personalized set of army custom cryes made with different body materials or whatever the FBI/SOG wants it to be.
Army custom is another name for G2 cryes. Someone on Ebay is currently selling personalized ACs of us marshal/FBI shit.
It's basically all shit that's already in service.
Some SOF groups namely those under JSOC get their pick of uniforms.
It's why you can get a photo like this, both are in Delta, supposedly.
>It's why you can get a photo like this, both are in Delta, supposedly.
More likely CAG on the left, SEAL on the right. Or they're both SEALs. Afaik the Army doesn't use AOR2.
Delta/army SOF don't exactly follow the same rules. They pretty much wear anything they want. There are pictures of some deltas wearing marpat cryes
Delta’s preferred uniforms in the late 2000s- early 2010s were Paraclete AOR1/2 uniforms. They don’t wear them anymore, the rumor I remember hearing is that NSW cracked down on it and they had to stop but again that was just a rumor.
>Afaik the Army doesn't use AOR2.
SOF guys do.
Weird seeing them in it.
The frustratingly general answer to your question is that there are many, many lists, authorizing supply of x to a/b/c/d. These lists interact in various bureaucratically deranged ways with other lists *requiring* a/b/c/d/e/f/g to have x and also a funny hat or a dress uniform or whatever bullshit.
Regardless of whether you're "conventional" or "special," the distribution of clothing revolves around whether you are 'on the memo' in the relevant context. The memo typically being an executive summary / PSA corresponding to some catalogue document that exists down to the individual procurement codes.
SAC/SOG is extremely unique in how it's structured, bureaucracy-wise, and so you shouldn't expect how their shit works to correspond to DOD sof. But SOG and delta are definitely the two groups most well-known for all kinds of mission-specific attire.
>SAC/SOG
For a long time they ran desert tiger stripe. Definitely set them apart from all the other goons running around in the region.
Lots of SOF guys wore desert tiger stripe. Testing uniforms is part of their job.
If you're not wearing $800 high tech combat trousers, you'll die.
If you put up enough of an order Crye will just make you g3 uniforms in any pattern you want. Dudes would just front like 20k for an order and sell MCB
Is that true?
Yes, if you've ever seen "OPTAC.COM EXCLUSIVE MULTICAM BLACK CRYE <thing>" it's them footing the bill for a bulk buy. I'm sure the MOQ is to the tune of 500. This is also the case with M81 and some other stuff that Crye has fabric for but rarely uses, like multicam tropic
They pretty much have fabric for every camouflage at this point. I've gotten both Army custom/Drifire cryes at a great prices. Lots of the non multicam camo are in drifire fabric, though. Its rare for them to make something that is 50/50 nyco outside of MultiCam.
As long as Crye can source the appropriate fabric, they will make them in any pattern you want. Minimum order is 750 sets (combat pants/shirt)
Yea, seems about right. Its the same pricing as Drifire stuff.
Looking through my SF folder and found this pic of Afghans wearing desert tiger stripe.
Probably Afghan SOF.
One of them is wearing a police hat.
Probably still is SOF because the U.S.(before they adopted SPEC4CE) donated their surplus of m81s/DCUs to the Afghan army there. Its also why MARSOC wore m81 camos because its blends with the local forces. Aside from that, its weird for normal Afghan soldiers to be wearing that kind of camo. They will usually wear m81s.
All of the regular ANA troops I saw in Afghanistan were wearing DTS while I was in Helmand. Only the Ktah Khas dudes were really wearing woodland. I’m sure they were still issuing it to units in different parts of the country though.
Yea, that makes sense.
The Afghan Commandos wore M81 for a really long time, why MARSOC and ODAs wore it a lot to stick out less with their surrogate units. The last time I saw KKA guys they were wearing some digi pattern, I’m not sure what is was though.
Was it the SPEC4CE? Thats the modernized camo that the Afghan used post 2013.
looks a lot like it. It was about 5 years ago and all I remember is it being a woodland like digital pattern. I would ask them if I could but they’re literally all dead now
Yea, its probably that camo. They adopted it like decade ago from hyperstealth.
The KKA dudes had a hodgepodge of stuff. I want to say their kit was the SPEC4CE, OD, or tan but the uniforms were woodland, the hyperstealth stuff or pic related as well as the SPEC4CE
I could be misremembering tho cause apparently that stuff in the pic was pretty limited
CAG gets things a year or two in advance to test it out. If they like it they adopt it. Everyone else follows what Army SOF does and copies it. Yes even Devgru.
Then everyone else copies JSOC.
SEALs were issued Crye NCs (modified ACs basically, with buttons instead of velcro for most pockets) for a while. Patagonia L9 was also designed primarily for the navy until it got lumped in with the PCU as I recall
Also NC shirts don’t have open elbow pad design like ACs, NC pants don’t have rise on the lower back like AC pants do. Also NC 2.0 exists.
Both are CAG. CAG got experimental and current AOR-pattern items earlier than Naval special forces in mid-2000s, though judging from pictures they have utilized mostly multicam in 2010s onward.
SF got custom TS ACU cut pants and slick tops.
Doesn't look good next to vegetation.
Probably tru-spec
More than likely a one off contract
Yeah they're doing OPFOR. So I would hope that the guy pretending to be shot wouldn't have a fresh bullet hole.
If its opfor, its definitely tru-spec. The military will occasionally buy bulks of commercial shit from tactical companies for opfor.
Yeah, but these are specifically ACU cut, meaning they would be one-off customs.
Yea, thats true. But so far, tru-spec is one of the few commercial companies to make tactical uniforms in ACU cuts. Its probably a TRU uniform in tiger stripe.
These are airsofters
How can you tell?
The guy is on the ground like he got shot but there's no blood.
I think he's just taking nap.
It's training dipshit
These were used for OPFOR
Technically they can still use it if its applicable for their mission. Much like desert tiger stripe