It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing. Did ukies save up the shells for so long or do russians not engage in counter artillery stuff?
Are they starting the counter offensive in zappo?
Counter arty
It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing. Did ukies save up the shells for so long or do russians not engage in counter artillery stuff?
Are they starting the counter offensive in zappo?
I remember other Russian milbloger saying that Russia has no counter-battery tools beside Lancet. I guess it was true
We don't need anything other than Lancet since NATO has yet no ability to counter it
Nets?
A thick net has countered lancets on more than 6 documented occasions.
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The lancets have limitations too. True counter-battery with 152MM destroys a target. This is a recently posted video showing the damage from a Lancet strike. Limited.
https://t.me/milinfolive/101433
No tubed artillery piece in russian arsenal can compete with an Excalibur fired from a L55 155m. This was a big point of discussion a year ago, it just took a long time to come into effect
The 155mm tubes are still basically managed as a strategic asset. The word is at this point, most arty fire around the front is just 82mm and 120mm mortar exchange
Seriously how much worse can it get for Russia?
Ukraine could invade
Wait… it cant get any worse before ukraine gains air supremacy
>ukraine
>air supremacy
lamo
Is pidorusia getting f16?
>non-stealth plane vs S-500
good luck, lol
How does ukraine still fly planes if it is so effective?
>S500
is that what's been so effective against russian aircraft?
It can't deal with su24s.
>russian vapourware garbage vs proven superior western weapons
No luck needed for F-16 mto slaughter your crap, pidor.
>cant even deal with an old ass fleet of overworked soviet shitboxes
Such is the power of Russian Wunderwaffen.
No offence but the F-16 is going to be the early blocks (not 70/72) and is not going to be in significant numbers. If F-16's were given in the multiple hundreds, with all the repair, supplies and weapons needed to run them AND they were the more modern blocks like the 70/72... then it MIGHT change the situation. Might. But it would require a lot of SEAD and it would still result in scores of shoot downs. Russia specifically specced into AA systems because it realised it couldn't match the aircraft systems of NATO so you just shoot them down.
So, there we go.
Block 50 would be good enough to have a significant effect if provided with the right training and ammunition.
But yes, even they will suffer attrition against Mig-31s.
Uh huh. Just like how 20 HIMARS weren't going to change anything, right?
>Russia specifically specced into AA systems
And yet their AA has been proven to be shit over and over and over at this point.
>Putin performs the final chimpout, shoots one nuke-tipped ICBM at Kyiv
>N00K gets shot down by the (still fully functional) Patriot battery
>Putin falls out of a window before he can order a full countervalue launch against USA
>Direct NATO intervention
>Oryx logs the ICBM as a russian loss on the very top of the page
I'm not sure but ask me again in two weeks and I'll have your answer for you; there is no telling how deep this rabbit hole is gonna go.
>Seriously how much worse can it get for Russia?
You do really the catchphrase of any study of russian history is:
>and then it got worse
I mean, it's probably not going to be as bad as 1905 or 1941? Surely?
>strength 627k
>losses 700k
>initial
moron
/rcwg/
About ~20% there, so good room for growth.
RuAF has been doing counter-arty for over a year now. It’s Ukraine which doesn’t (or rarely) do counter-battery.
Go discuss that with Sladkov, Murz and Girkin i guess. Cause they all say there's a big problem with this
haven't seen much evidence of this. they do saturation counter battery with rockets, or did, but that has limited range and paints a target on their backs. other than that it's just lancet. they used to have krasnopol but no evidence of that at work for months now
That's changed recently anon, there's been plenty of videos of UAV or straight artillery strikes on Russian artillery pieces.
Once-A-Fricking-Gain, Patriot does not have ICBM intercept capability. Do not confuse a piece of shit bog-standard TBM relabelled as a "Hypersonic Missile" with a low RCS RV spitting out decoys coming in at 5-7 km/s. It's an extremely difficult task and currently only THAAD has a theoretical ability to intercept one.
>America claims PAC-3 can only provide TBM intercept capability
>It quietly was the inheritor-son of SDI R&D
>"No guarantee it can intercept ICBM RVs"
>Achieves 40% rate per missile or something the moment it gets used
American big ticket systems hide their power level.
>it can intercept ICBMs because Russia bad and US good, ok? Just trust me bro!
No. If Russia is going to refrain from nuking Kyiv it's going to be because they're afraid of the US retaliating, not because of a single Patriot battery.
>it can intercept ICBMs because Russia bad and US good, ok? Just trust me bro!
This entire war has demonstrated the supremacy of US and European systems.
>4 HIMARS with their piddly weak GMLRS missiles won't change this war
>xaxaxaxaxa Smerch and Tornado-S stronk
And then the ammo dumps started to explode and Russia got kneecapped.
Yeah OK anon.
At this point I'm not sure if Smerch, Tornado-S, and especially the guided munitions for same, even exist. We've seen Uragan in combat, where are the Smerch?
>nuking
If they refrain from that it might be because the UK and China said they will strike Russia immediately at the slightest sign of use of WMDs.
nah, you losers "refrained" from nuking Kiev because you have no functional nukes. The onlyy ones you potentially had were the ones you almost lost by dumping them near the front line so you could maybe use them.
Even if you gays could use them, patriots would shoot them down because your launch systems, personel and intel are that piss poor.
Patriot probably could get lucky and hit an RV sometimes, but it’d be much shittier than THAAD (which is the last oh-shit-oh-frick layer of AD). Also it would be extra hard if it wasn’t cueing from another stronger radar.
RuAF has done nothing except humiliate itself and lose for over a year now.
Ukraine now rarely does counterbattery because there's not a lot of targets to fire counterbattery at left, LMAO.
foolish westerner doesn't realize the brilliance of the Russian strategy: by using T-55s it is simply no longer economical to waste such largesse as a counterbattery strike against such cheap targets
After Russia moved their ammo dumps to seemingly secure but less efficient locations, HIMARS has been used to systematically destroy artillery instead.
Lack of range, winged drones for spotting etc. It make you think that only evidence for successful counter battery fire are lanclet hits. On ukie side you have like few videos per day with winged drones spotting targets for artillery
>It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Legitimately, what am I supposed to be looking at in your picture?
Russian artillery 1000~ Ukrainian artillery 2000~
I see. Isn't this data like eight to ten months old? Do we have any current figures?
Obviously there haven't been any new leaks but you have to assume the Russian arty is getting progressively more worn out, while the Ukies are getting more Western arty.
To me it looks like a big batch of excaliburs was transferred. There's a lot of videos from the past month
Sure, that's likely the case. I just want more current numbers, wouldn't you?
Someone plotted out the russian artillery losses as reported by the ukies and there was a bug uptick after the leak. Russia has been using t-55s as artillery while ukraine is getting new systems.
>Someone plotted out the russian artillery losses as reported by the ukies
May I see it?
>Russia has been using t-55s as artillery while ukraine is getting new systems.
I am aware though I don't think its as pervasive (on either side) as /k/ likes to pretend.
hot off the matplotlibs
>random pic of a chart
Oh gee thanks, so very useful.
>not ggplot
Snarky sarcasm aside good job anon
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>not using the default colors
Why
This is too readable. Can you make the date log scale?
I tried
I applaud thee
Is this because they're using tanks as artillery to plug the numbers kek
>comic sans
you malignant prostitute. you fetid beast. you odious, feckless, stinking obscenity. a pox on your children and may lighting strike your house.
>the world's second army and patron state of artillery spam using T-55s for IDF is a nothingburger
>things I did not say
>It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing
I mean they used these ancient T-55s as makeshift artillery, that's not something you do if you have lots of actual artillery
So its gonna be popasna-severodonetsk but for the russians. Its even happening in June, what a reversal
don't worry comrade the reinforcements are co-ACK
It's OK comrade, we can walk!
that train track actually goes from Sevastopol to Zaporizhzhia
and I think they hit this bridge (just a guess).
Is that river just a ditch filled with stagnant water?
Oh, if they were smart enough (And Ukies are) to hit exactly at the bridge part, that is not so easy to "quickly repair".
It's one thing to repair a rail track that has been bombed. It is entirely different to repair a railroad bridge.
That strike would have completely severed the ability to provide supply, maintenance, ammunition and food from the direction of Kerch Bridge to Melitopol.
If we are going to see similar strikes on railways on Melitopol-Tokmak-Chernihivka-Mariupol axis, that would leave that part of the front line pretty much without any heavy reinforcement or supply.
The russians might still try to bring in supplies to Melitopol-Mariupol axis on trucks, that that is nowhere near to be enough, if the Ukies are going to push to that direction.
>We are causing much damage to the enemy rear with our missiles
Kek, Russian cope is so fricking fake and gay
>It seams like the famed artillery advantage of the russians is vanishing. Did ukies save up the shells for so long or do russians not engage in counter artillery stuff?
The Ukrainians daily post their claimed kills of Russian equipment and personal. While yesterday was a huge day in terms of claimed destroyed equipment, for the past month Ukrainian claims on artillery have been very high, 563 artillery guns and 33 MRLS's in the last 30 days.
This is a massive spike compared to the norm which was like 0-10 pieces a day, even if you don't believe the numbers are 100% accurate it shows a shift in priorities. Russian armor kills are also down so my theory is that Russia is using less armor and I heard that artillery has been the number one anti armor weapon in the war, so maybe Ukraine is switching focus to Russian artillery.
Russia has ironically helped Ukraine grow militarily in so many ways in a short time. Pre-22feb22 Ukraine was in quite a mess tbh. Look at them now in over a year.
It's fitting poetic justice. By trying to genocide poor Ukraine, the Russians transformed Ukrainians into the people who will slay them instead.
Think Apache/Comanche. Apache bullied the Comanche, but when new tech found its way into Comanche hands (horses), the Comanche hit back.
Welp, you know what this means /k/?
We need to send way MORE artillery to Ukraine. All Muscovite arty needs to be wiped off the face of fricking Earth.
Also......
>"Serious damage to the enemy with your missile strikes on the rear"
For frick's sake, you're bombing playgrounds you dumb fricks. Stop drinking your own Kool-Aid.