If it’s military wasn’t pre-occupied elsewhere, yes. But it’d certainly spark a war with Turkey, which is why they pussed out and didn’t help Armenia back in 2020, despite their military alliance.
>didn’t help Armenia back in 2020, despite their military alliance.
why do morons keep repeating this? 2020 karabagh war happened inside azerbaijan's territory. russia is only obliged to defend armenia if they aggression inside armenia territory, not in territory they occupied after collapse of ussr, which armenia didnt even recognized as state(meme artaksh republic).
Armenia had recently installed a pro-western liberal journalist as their prime minister, and naturally this alienated Russia. This was pretty moronic of the Armenians from a pragmatic point of view, as the only NATO country they border (Turkey) hates them and the Azeris had been strengthening their military for years at that point. The Azeris were also cautious not to alienate Russia too much themselves in the last decade. As anon
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Russia doesn't have a treaty with "Artsakh" and no part of Nagarno-Karabakh or the land around it, the latter being primarily what the Azerbaijanis took back, is part of Armenia.
Russia couldn't invade and do shit to Azerbaijan in 2020. First of all, it would lead to direct retaliations against Armenia proper, and their lackeys in the West wouldn't be able to do shit about it. They'd realize that Armenia is a member of Russia's CSTO and is an enemy of NATO, not a friend. The Greco-Armenian lobby wouldn't be able to capitalize on the conflict like they did.
Invading Azerbaijan would immediately get countries in Central Asia to heighten their suspicion of Russia, far more than the Ukraine conflict has.
There was zero upside to Russia invading Azerbaijan, plenty of downside to Russia and Armenia both. Come to think of it, maybe they should have.
points out there was really no upside to Russia intervening on behalf of Armenia. If anything, Armenia’s defeat saw their liberal PM get thrown out of office, and the Armenians come crawling back to Russia to negotiate a ceasefire to preserve their ethnic enclave in Western Azerbaijan. So from the perspective of Russia, they now have the Armenians firmly back in their pocket.
Pashinyan is still in office and was re-elected. He's a moron but the opposition is even worse in other ways and equally moronic.
I wouldn't call him pro-western but he's the sort of moron that thinks he can be friends with everyone. He was pro-Russia, wanted to be friends with the West, and if you read his biography he wanted to bring reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey as well.
He came from Levon Ter Petrosian's camp (pic related is a 2008 picture Petrosian and the current prime minister) , and shared his optimism. Unfortunately Pashinyan has none of Petrosian's intellectual abilities.
Ter Petrosian talks about the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict 4 mins in:
>if you read his biography he wanted to bring reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey as well.
When was this written exactly? Pashinyan and his wife were running around in fatigues being jingoistic. Not to mention that he and his Defence Minister were openly calling for annexing more territory from Azerbaijan and even from Turkey as well. They repeatedly made these types of claims in the 2 years leading to the war.
There was a smaller clash in early 2020 as well, in the north of the country, meaning it wasn't Azerbaijan trying to liberate territory but Armenia trying to take territory.
The reconciliation process between Armenia and Turkey happened after the conflict, and in large part because of it. The leadership in Armenia finally got a reality check and understood that conflict wasn't helping them economically at all.
Ofcourse, azer is surrounded by russian allies so western support impossible.
Ukraine had the second biggest army in europe with hundreds of billions in western equiptment and couldn't stop 10% of russia's standing army.
>Ofcourse, azer is surrounded by russian allies so western support impossible.
Azerbaijan may be surrounded by Armenia, Russia and Iran, but there's still Georgia which is also at war with Russia. Georgia connects Turkey with Azerbaijan, so weapons can still flow through. Not to mention that Turkey can also strike Armenia from the west directly.
Probably. I don’t know why they let their “ally” Armenia get buck broken. It should be a warning to China. Russia will let treaty allies get pushed around by tiny states on their own border. Russia truly is the worst ally to have.
russia doesnt help armenia for the same reason the US didnt (for decades) give taiwan a guarantee they would help them. if you help tiny countries they will interpret that as meaning that they can ape out and start wars with everyone because the big guy will be the one footing the bill
Ofcourse, azer is surrounded by russian allies so western support impossible.
Ukraine had the second biggest army in europe with hundreds of billions in western equiptment and couldn't stop 10% of russia's standing army.
>Iran is incompetent and and Russia (itself incompetent) had to save them in Syria from farmers
Iran never had an army in Syria, just IRGC advisors and militiamen from other nationalities.
Iran is pretty competent, their main issue is the lack of advanced weaponry due to sanctions and embargoes. Every single war in the region, even though they didn't start any of them, all ended up increasing their influence.
Probably. I don’t know why they let their “ally” Armenia get buck broken. It should be a warning to China. Russia will let treaty allies get pushed around by tiny states on their own border. Russia truly is the worst ally to have.
If it’s military wasn’t pre-occupied elsewhere, yes. But it’d certainly spark a war with Turkey, which is why they pussed out and didn’t help Armenia back in 2020, despite their military alliance.
Russia doesn't have a treaty with "Artsakh" and no part of Nagarno-Karabakh or the land around it, the latter being primarily what the Azerbaijanis took back, is part of Armenia.
Russia couldn't invade and do shit to Azerbaijan in 2020. First of all, it would lead to direct retaliations against Armenia proper, and their lackeys in the West wouldn't be able to do shit about it. They'd realize that Armenia is a member of Russia's CSTO and is an enemy of NATO, not a friend. The Greco-Armenian lobby wouldn't be able to capitalize on the conflict like they did.
Invading Azerbaijan would immediately get countries in Central Asia to heighten their suspicion of Russia, far more than the Ukraine conflict has.
There was zero upside to Russia invading Azerbaijan, plenty of downside to Russia and Armenia both. Come to think of it, maybe they should have.
the same turks that got embarashed by shitty technicals and and some sand Black folk?
don't make me laugh anon
https://ahvalnews.com/tanks/turkeys-leopard-tanks-have-disappointed-syria-daily-mail
This. Vatniks have been shown to be a paper tiger and all their neighbors will frick with their meme “republics” with the help of NATO. It’s literally over!
Pre February 24 Russian army: yes
Current Russian army if they pulled everything out of Ukraine: no
Current Russian army, while also fighting in Ukraine at the same time: lmao
no
If it’s military wasn’t pre-occupied elsewhere, yes. But it’d certainly spark a war with Turkey, which is why they pussed out and didn’t help Armenia back in 2020, despite their military alliance.
>didn’t help Armenia back in 2020, despite their military alliance.
why do morons keep repeating this? 2020 karabagh war happened inside azerbaijan's territory. russia is only obliged to defend armenia if they aggression inside armenia territory, not in territory they occupied after collapse of ussr, which armenia didnt even recognized as state(meme artaksh republic).
>if they aggression
they face*
Yes, they need to occupy our allies capital before Russia can help!
>nato doesnt involved in ukraine with its combat forces therefore nato is meme
Why are you bringing up NATO?
Unironically NATO has done more for a nontreaty country than Russia did for its treaty ally.
Ukraine isnt in NATO you dumb frick.
how thick you guys are?
>certainly spark a war with Turkey
Then Iran turns off their gas.
iranians would eat their own shit without gas shekels
The only problem I see is that guy handing him the knife the wrong way.
then iran gets (rightfully) invaded and tabriz becomes (rightful) azeri clay
Armenia had recently installed a pro-western liberal journalist as their prime minister, and naturally this alienated Russia. This was pretty moronic of the Armenians from a pragmatic point of view, as the only NATO country they border (Turkey) hates them and the Azeris had been strengthening their military for years at that point. The Azeris were also cautious not to alienate Russia too much themselves in the last decade. As anon
points out there was really no upside to Russia intervening on behalf of Armenia. If anything, Armenia’s defeat saw their liberal PM get thrown out of office, and the Armenians come crawling back to Russia to negotiate a ceasefire to preserve their ethnic enclave in Western Azerbaijan. So from the perspective of Russia, they now have the Armenians firmly back in their pocket.
Pashinyan is still in office and was re-elected. He's a moron but the opposition is even worse in other ways and equally moronic.
I wouldn't call him pro-western but he's the sort of moron that thinks he can be friends with everyone. He was pro-Russia, wanted to be friends with the West, and if you read his biography he wanted to bring reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey as well.
He came from Levon Ter Petrosian's camp (pic related is a 2008 picture Petrosian and the current prime minister) , and shared his optimism. Unfortunately Pashinyan has none of Petrosian's intellectual abilities.
Ter Petrosian talks about the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict 4 mins in:
>if you read his biography he wanted to bring reconciliation between Armenia and Turkey as well.
When was this written exactly? Pashinyan and his wife were running around in fatigues being jingoistic. Not to mention that he and his Defence Minister were openly calling for annexing more territory from Azerbaijan and even from Turkey as well. They repeatedly made these types of claims in the 2 years leading to the war.
There was a smaller clash in early 2020 as well, in the north of the country, meaning it wasn't Azerbaijan trying to liberate territory but Armenia trying to take territory.
The reconciliation process between Armenia and Turkey happened after the conflict, and in large part because of it. The leadership in Armenia finally got a reality check and understood that conflict wasn't helping them economically at all.
>Ofcourse, azer is surrounded by russian allies so western support impossible.
Azerbaijan may be surrounded by Armenia, Russia and Iran, but there's still Georgia which is also at war with Russia. Georgia connects Turkey with Azerbaijan, so weapons can still flow through. Not to mention that Turkey can also strike Armenia from the west directly.
russia doesnt help armenia for the same reason the US didnt (for decades) give taiwan a guarantee they would help them. if you help tiny countries they will interpret that as meaning that they can ape out and start wars with everyone because the big guy will be the one footing the bill
Ofcourse, azer is surrounded by russian allies so western support impossible.
Ukraine had the second biggest army in europe with hundreds of billions in western equiptment and couldn't stop 10% of russia's standing army.
good one
> standing army
i beg to differ picrel
Walmart has a deep understanding of logistics.
Can they win with handguns, deer rifles, and lever actions though?
They can win with washing machines.
Its not even a fair fight and you fricking know it anon
>couldn't stop 10% of russia's standing army
that's why we're entering month 6 of the 3 day special operation right?
Iran could. Then they can finish their rail line to the Persian Gulf.
Iran really should just annex them. Unite all of the Azeri people into one nation, there's more of them in Iran than in Azerbaijan anyway
Iran is incompetent and and Russia (itself incompetent) had to save them in Syria from farmers
>Iran is incompetent and and Russia (itself incompetent) had to save them in Syria from farmers
Iran never had an army in Syria, just IRGC advisors and militiamen from other nationalities.
Iran is pretty competent, their main issue is the lack of advanced weaponry due to sanctions and embargoes. Every single war in the region, even though they didn't start any of them, all ended up increasing their influence.
Probably. I don’t know why they let their “ally” Armenia get buck broken. It should be a warning to China. Russia will let treaty allies get pushed around by tiny states on their own border. Russia truly is the worst ally to have.
Russia doesn't have a treaty with "Artsakh" and no part of Nagarno-Karabakh or the land around it, the latter being primarily what the Azerbaijanis took back, is part of Armenia.
Russia couldn't invade and do shit to Azerbaijan in 2020. First of all, it would lead to direct retaliations against Armenia proper, and their lackeys in the West wouldn't be able to do shit about it. They'd realize that Armenia is a member of Russia's CSTO and is an enemy of NATO, not a friend. The Greco-Armenian lobby wouldn't be able to capitalize on the conflict like they did.
Invading Azerbaijan would immediately get countries in Central Asia to heighten their suspicion of Russia, far more than the Ukraine conflict has.
There was zero upside to Russia invading Azerbaijan, plenty of downside to Russia and Armenia both. Come to think of it, maybe they should have.
Holy shit, what a moronic borders. Can't they agree to swap some land to clear that out?
Azerbaijan is a possible base for Israeli jets. Iran should castrate them like dogs!
Turkey would get involved on Azerbaijan's side and frick them up in no time.
the same turks that got embarashed by shitty technicals and and some sand Black folk?
don't make me laugh anon
https://ahvalnews.com/tanks/turkeys-leopard-tanks-have-disappointed-syria-daily-mail
Why do "great powers" keep making shit exclaves like this? It always leads to conflict
you allready answered your own question.
I like how 'could Russia invade X' threads have gone from shit like all of Europe simultaneously to Azerbaijan.
isn't it beautiful
vatniks finally know their place
Russia would have trouble successfully invading their own territory
With what army?
me in January 2022
>yeah, probably
me in August 2022
>hah, frick no
This. Vatniks have been shown to be a paper tiger and all their neighbors will frick with their meme “republics” with the help of NATO. It’s literally over!
At this point I'm fairly certain Russia would find a way to frick up invading itself.
>Could Russia successfully invade
No.
Pre February 24 Russian army: yes
Current Russian army if they pulled everything out of Ukraine: no
Current Russian army, while also fighting in Ukraine at the same time: lmao
They couldn't successfully invade a wet paper bag at this point.