could anyone give me a recommendation for a pistol? I work on a cattle ranch and need something small i can conceal carry, cheap, and wont have an issue taking down a coyote in one shot. i was looking at charter arms off duty as i really love the look and hidden hammer, but id rather use cheaper ammo than .38 SPL. does anyone make a revolver with a low profile hammer, or hidden hammer?
i like the ruger LCR but again, only in .38 and .357 which are kinda expensive, but if those are my options then i'll deal with it.
id like this to be a cheap, everyday carry that i wouldnt be afraid to rough up a bit, and something that'll protect my calves in the field and me in public.
why are you worried about ammo cost if it will only be used for dispatching coyotes?
just a want, not a hard need
You could get a .22 magnum I guess
get a ruger security 380
I have a smith and wesson model 642 that I just throw in my pocket. .38 +p. No exposed hammer and very lightweight. There's a 50 dollar rebate going on right now. You could get one for $450-500
Buy a shitty Arminus or a Rohm
>~$300 budget
>cheaper ammo than .38
>revolver
Looks like it’s .22 LR/WMR for you buddy. Or you could get a 9mm Taurus revolver, but I think autoloader cartridges in revolvers are gay.
unless you get a 9mm revolver 38 is as about as cheap a cartridge you can get in a revolver
look at hue brands for a cheap one too, like rossi or >taurus
Your cattle will do a fine job fending off coyotes without you having to murder them on sight. Let me guess, you also believe in "snake guns" and you will shoot any snake on sight right?
>Your cattle will do a fine job fending off coyotes without you having to murder them on sight
I'm not OP, but coyotes often take calves. The common solution around here is a guard jenny (female donkey).
City slicker detected
The only ones I've seen use the term city slicker are cowboy larpers like op. Go back to Portland homosexual.
ok citysoiboi
City slicker would say that
Well lahdeedah Mister Gucci Loafers
oh no not the heckin pupperino
normally i'd agree with you, i dont like firing guns around the moms as it stresses them out really bad, but we have at least 2 coyotes that already tried attacking a cow in the middle of giving birth that i had to scream at and run after to chase them off. i love snakes and have no fricking idea what you're talking about.
i dont want coyotes hanging around that are comfortable enough around humans that i can get within 30 yards of them before they even start reacting to me.
not really, im just partial to the look and feel of revolvers.
you got a name i can look up?
not a bad suggestion, thanks
Its an RIA m206 i been looking for one at lgs but hard to find i guess they dont sell well
Want to test dry fire since its got a “heavy trigger” but they are cheap!
The problem with armscor and charter revolvers is that they are not that much cheaper than a taurus especially used. Of course new gets you availability and reliability and 270 for a functional 38 special isn't anything to scoff at but fifty bucks more will get you a better gun
Not sure how much better 50 bux for a Taurus brand subcompact revolver is supposed to be but i bet it wont look like the gun Michael Corleone popped Sollozzo with
>tony frickin montana
Get that pictured Charter Arms Undercover. I have one- one of the older ones from the 1980's. You can get them like new in the box for $250 on gun broker. Better than a Rohm or Arminius, and it is AMERICAN MADE. Charter arms does honor the lifetime warranty.
Snake guns are silly but coyotes deserve to get walloped.
There are snake guns? I’ve been using a hoe, AKA your mom, to take care of water moccasins and rattlesnakes.
snake, or coyote?
I'm going with coyote, snake would have more misspellings.
Go Ruger or S&W and get their .38 pocket guns, there's a reason why they're still popular
Maybe Colt if you want a Detective
does it have to be a revolver?
38 special, for a good 230 bucks. There’s also the the one without the hammer
>cattle ranch
>conceal carry
Why?
I have the Taurus 856 with the bobbed hammer. It's good innacity and innawoods.
so i can pull it out of my pocket while im in the tractor. ive had my rifle at work, its too cumbersome in the cab. conceal carry is so i can legally carry it in my pocket on my way to work so im not wasting time in the morning unpacking my damn rifle
the 856 looks pretty good
see above. also ive been within 40 yards of these damn coyotes more than a dozen times these past couple of months and they are getting less avoidant. by the time i can get my rifle out of my tractor cab theyre gone, or i dont have it on hand
maybe your coyotes are different, but ive never seen one while im in the tractor, and even 40 yards is gonna be a difficult shot with a pistol.
The only handgun I'd trust is a target model .22 LR pistol. Ruger Mark. You can get used to shooting a cheap one. Later invest in upgrading it ridiculously in an actual tier 1 assassin pistol.
Two questions: one, why not just open carry, and two, have you ever considered a low power pistol scope for the ones over 40? Nothing crazy, like a 1.5x.
Not op but are Taurus any good if I don't want to shell out the $950+ for a S&W? Local store has a 605 in .357 that I like the look of
They get a bad rep for being cheap but other brands have filled that niche, taurus revolvers are fine. I don't know about their semis because the one I have is shit, but their revolvers are basically just clones of Smith and Wesson designs with some minor differences. They are not as nice obviously but they aren't bad just made by Brazilians. I recommend buying a wolf spring replacement kit because the factory springs are fricking stupid stiff and they make the trigger a lot smoother.
>Conceal carry on a ranch
You must have manure for brains
S&W Model 10
as a rancher
1. why are you concealed carrying on a ranch?
2. good fricking luck hitting a coyote with a pistol. they never get within 100 yards unless youre in a blind.
you can get the lcr in 9mm which is even cheaper than 38 special
unironically get a lever gun, why not
or a basic glock 17/47
The ruger lcr (i have in 357 mag) is a really good gun that will last you a long time and I carry most days. But it is expensive and if you don't want to spend that money on something you wont carry outside the ranch just get something cheaper
centerfire systems has a selection of beater revolvers from actually decent manufacturers, some may need work or have horrible finish but if you don't care about it a beater colt detective special with flaking nickel is a fairly safe bet
https://centerfiresystems.com/charter-arms-revolver-undercover-.38-special-2-barrel-blue-3-1-1-2-1/
https://centerfiresystems.com/colt-revolver-detective-special-.38-special-2-barrel-blue-1-4/
plenty of these are admittedly shit, but if you have the know how you can get a quality revolver with little work and parts (of course I realize most don't have the capacity to figure out repairing anything)
LOL. Sounds like a good use for one of those meme mares leg guns…
Rossi Ranch Hand
I was unironically thinking something like that for OP with a low power scope...wonder if he has ear pro. Though nothing can be louder than a fricking snub revolver lol. What kind of power does .22 mag get out of a ~10" barrel? Might be underpowered. Not sure. Feel like it might be.
Buy a Taurus 856 with a 3 inch barrel. Also, you should wear it in a paddle holster for easier access.
get the taurus 856 toro model that can take a red dot, and bob the hammer yourself if you really want it that way. snubbie sights are all shit but a cheap red dot will make it way easier to actually hit the little bastards at range.
>snubbie sights are all shit
Because you're supposed to point-shoot them
shut the hell up. point shooting is moronic and you're probably not even good at it. all you do is jack off over classic pics of dad figures holding guns at waist-level
if its moronic why did all cops do it for 50 years and turn out fine?
>why did all cops do it for 50 years
because for the longest time no one really knew how to shoot
Black weren't as bold back then so they seldom had to shoot
look up the newhall shooting zoomie
>shut the hell up
Relax, kid. I guarantee i can point shoot a snubby faster& more accurately than you can shoot any handgun of your choosing in any manner of your choosing
They make some good compact 1911s, like the Ed Brown.
Could just get a Heritage Rough Rider with the 22 magnum cyclinder. Things are dirt cheap, and 22 mag is enough for a yote. That when when you are taking pot shots at them at 40 yards or more with a pistol you arent pissing away .357 lol
>need something small i can conceal carry,
why do you need to conceal it on a cattle ranch? that seems like the most open carry job imaginable.
this. OP embrace your destiny and swagger around that ranch like you own it with your rootin' tootin' six shooter hanging proudly on your hip
Thinking the same thing but he doesnt want to fumble frick with his rifle or large sized stuff while yotes get their way. Understandable to have something small for a pocket or pouch instead of going full cowboy rig that may snag on stuff getting in farm equipment or daily activities. It would be easy enough if he was riding a horse to keep the big iron on but anyone whos worked in farm equipment or military vehicles etc know stuff gets snagged on..everything, especially if you are a regular sized man doing some work. Saddles asnd a tractor seat are different..
i already answered this but basically so im not breaking the law by keeping it in my pocket while driving to work, and so i can carry it while camping
trust that it'll be proudly visible whenever possible, especially at work
this is the main reason for wanting something small, my tractor cab is small lol
>You will never have a coyote get close enough to you for a handgun to be effective
ive literally had them within 20 yards. the ones that are giving me an issue are normally around 20-50 yards when i see them. I dont know for an fact but i think they may be either coywolf or coydog. they look weird, are taller than other coyotes in my area, are redder in pelt, and are pretty damn comfortable around people. im leaning toward coydog.
>You just want to larp with a pistol like john Wayne because you toss hay off a trailer all day.
yes, and? homosexuals in this thread acting like the Cool Factor doesnt have any sway at all when making a purchase decision are lying to others and themselves.
If you are actually having a problem with wild dogs, tell your boss and they'll get someone to actually exterminate them. You aren't going to do shit going after them like farmer bob with a gun. To be real you just give me edgy "i wanna kill a dog for any reason" vibes.
If you want something simple with less noise then some variety of .22 pistol is going to probably be your best bet.
Ruger, Rock Island, and even Taurus make good .38 pocket snubbys for under $350. Depending on your market you might even score an older S&W used in that price range.
I bought a charter arms in .357 magpup for about $75 more because most of the vermin here have 2 legs.
>Ruger
>38 pocket snubbys for under $350
Where? I need
I think that was a local used one, my bad.
I may have been thinking of the Wrangler 22's, and conflagrating with all the others.
But you shouldn't have trouble finding a .38 for cheap from a bunch of manufacturers.
https://gun.deals/category/hand-guns?caliber=15&dir=asc&sort=price
Everyone wants to shit on "cheap" guns. But Ii can say a RIA m200/206 are perfectly functional and affordable at like $200-300 price max. While they are only 38/spl thats fine. 38 will kill critters..and people just fine and its your cheaper option. They are also straightwall cartridges so if you reload its easy. They are beaters you can drop and bang up and no worries but mine has always gotten the job done.
Ruger Blackhawk Convertible in 357/38/9x19. Tough gun, easy to choose your round du jour and gives you access to the most common and cheapest ammo in general
a shoulder rig could let you carry a bigger gun with better sights than a snubby while also keeping it out of the way while working
Firstly, no handgun in a reasonable caliber is going to one shot a coyote unless you hit it's brain. If I wanted a pistol to accomplish this task, I'd be looking at a sp101 with the 4.2" bbl in .327 Federal at a minimum. Good sights, longer bbl to help with powder burn, single action for precision shots...I know everyone hates coyotes but gutshotting one with a snub nosed .38 to let it wonder off and die in the bush over several days is just foul.
If you just can't help yourself, get a used m&p shield (single stack version) and find some hps that will actually expand out of that little 3" bbl. That's the only thing close to your budget that could do a decent job. Even better off you can get a 4" version.
>handgun for coyotes
You will never have a coyote get close enough to you for a handgun to be effective. You just want to larp with a pistol like john Wayne because you toss hay off a trailer all day.
>You will never have a coyote get close enough to you for a handgun to be effective
True
>You just want to larp with a pistol like john Wayne because you toss hay off a trailer all day.
Also true. Nothing wrong with it either. Let OP cowboy larp while he's earning an honest dollar. It's leagues less homosexual than AR& body armor larping
Anyone in the thread that didn't recommend you a Ruger in .357 is a cityslicker homosexual. Don't buy trash like Taurus, Charter Arms or Windicator just to save a few hundred. I also wouldn't want to use an LCR or LCRx to regularly shoot .357. Go for an SP101 or GP100. Save up if you need to.
They have a good warranty and can take a beating. .357 will absolutely demolish a 'yote.
When's the last time you were close enough to a coyote to hit it with a handgun and you weren't calling it in?
>non rural person tries to sound rural to give his revolver recommendation more weight
Hate to see it!
>non rural person
You can just say Black person
Charter Arms makes revolvers in .45 and even 9mm if that's something that interests you.
>https://charterfirearms.com/collections/pitbull/45-acp
>https://charterfirearms.com/collections/pitbull/9-mm
Simunitions, pepper spray or paintballs would probably do as well to scare coyotes off.
found the actual cityslicker homosexual
what the frick are you on about moron
My ranch handgun is a S&W 586. .357 will deal with any animal (Hog, mountain lion, etc.) I'm liable to run across no problem, and I could even put down a cow with it if the need ever arose. Solid steel and bulletproof reliability. If you can't afford a few boxes of .38 or .357, you're a poorgay who shouldn't be getting a gun in the first place.
How in the everloving heck are you going to shoot yotes with a shortbarrelled pistol? Are they walking right up to you for a sniff?
He's a moron who doesn't understand what works best for actual ranching. I assume he's got a couple acres with a trailer on it and calls it his "ranch".
Any gun. Just the sound of a gunshot will scare the coyote away
You work on a cattle ranch and have to come here for gun recs?
This and this.
>wont have an issue taking down a coyote in one shot
Anything from .22 Mag to .44 Mag is plenty adequate for coyotes, the hard part is hitting it in the vitals with that one shot.
And while that's pretty much entirely a matter of skill, picking "something small I can conceal carry" is sure not doing anything to make it easier on you.