Could a wall placed shot of a civil war cannon destroy a M1 abrams?

I dunno, what if they shoot next to the ammo storage.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    straight down the muzzle while reloading will do it. if you catch the round right as it's partially loaded it'll ignite the powder and kill the crew, at least. if you hit the same spot any other time it'll buttfrick the breach. but you need to hit a 5" circle that moves around.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They were still firing cannonballs as opposed to shaped ammo, so the surface area would be too spread out to penetrate the armor

      Unless you make a literal one in teb million shot like this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They were still firing cannonballs as opposed to shaped ammo
        no they werent, especially not rifled cannons like op's pic
        they shot high explosive shells and almost NEVER shot cannonballs or any solid shot, even the smooth bores, but op is clearly talking about a rifled cannon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Against thick/hard (rock/brkc) walled fortifications were supposed to be used solid shots as having best penetration.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            true i was thinking about field guns not siege guns, but wouldnt an HE shell still be better anyways? black powder doesnt have enough force to send a bolt fast enough to penetrate deeply into the armor, they all go roughly 8-900 feet per second
            with a shell you can atleast rely on the explosive force of the shot

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >with a shell you can atleast rely on the explosive force of the shot
              Black powder HE has pathetic explosive power.
              Even with proper high proper explosive like TNT or RDX HE shells pen less then solid AP. There is reason why AP rounds had very small HE charge or no charge at all.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Abrams ammo explodes outward through break-away panels and doesn't cook the crew.

    Your best bet is aiming every cannon at the tracks. You can probably immobilize it. But then the confused commander would spin the IR tracker over to you and it'd all be over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As if. I have a 30 yd lanyard.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just pop an explosive shell into an open hatch firing from elevation. Ez.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IDIOT

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Put it into orbit, fire the cannon and slingshot the cannonball around the moon and back to earth to hit the tank.

    Shrimples.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    depends on the gun some of the larger naval cannons probably could. disable a tank similar to how high explosive 155mm shells have been seen to disable tanks.
    the idea of actually penetrating Armour wasn't really an idea at the time of the us civil war. the first AP shell the Palliser shell wasn't even invented till 1867
    The popular line of thought at the time on how to defeat Armour like that present of iron clads was to actually crush the Armour instead of penetrating it so that's why you get the massive dahlgrens and columbiads and the high velocity but blunt projectile brook rifles.
    the 4-6 inches of armor seen on most ironclads made them pretty much impervious to all gunfire. hardly any ironclads were sunk by cannon fire and the ones that were due to almost always mobility kills followed by scuttling from the crew rather than ammo detention or flooding.
    so unless there is a critical area with like less than 25 for a 12 pounder or 3 inch or 100mm of Armour with something like a brooke or Dahlgren your best chance for a "kill" outside of overpressure would be tracks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      don't forget that metallurgy is far better now than it was in the 1800s. so even the thin hatch armor probably provides more protection than the entire ironclad protection scheme. maybe with an extremely heavy shell you could get a hatch to fail in a bulk sense and just be forced into the fighting compartment. I think that would require a very low obliquity hit, however, which is improbable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        though those are naval guns and far larger than the wheeled field gun in OPs pic

        the standard issue 12pdr muzzle-loading cannon had a muzzle velocity of only about 450 m/s with a 110mm wide ball
        back of the envelope calculations suggest a penetration of 40mm into steel, just barely enough to penetrate the rear or roof armor
        sides have an additional armored skirt
        but this would assume no engagement angle and fired from the muzzle

        at distances of more than a few dozen meters, its entirely possible that it doesnt matter where you fire at an M1, barring an extremely lucky hit to the tracks, it will do no more than bounce off even the thinnest armor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >so unless there is a critical area with like less than 25 for a 12 pounder or 3 inch or 100mm of Armour with something like a brooke or Dahlgren your best chance for a "kill" outside of overpressure would be tracks

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a subsonic iron ball would have difficulty penetrating any part of the abrams
    even the 2in thick roof armor would have a decent chance to deflect it (and how would you even aim a cannonball straight down?)

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    hit the barrel or a drive sprocket and thats a mission kill

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they can shoot shells loaded with tnt like any modern shell, so yea it has the ability to frick shit up
    it just has to hit the tracks, then it can have a field day shooting at the abrams until the people inside just give up

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thing can't shoot without cannonballs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      stop spouting this moronic belief, look at

      https://i.imgur.com/QRqjwrv.jpg

      >They were still firing cannonballs as opposed to shaped ammo
      no they werent, especially not rifled cannons like op's pic
      they shot high explosive shells and almost NEVER shot cannonballs or any solid shot, even the smooth bores, but op is clearly talking about a rifled cannon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This thing can't shoot without

        >shells
        ditto

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it sounded more like he was insulting cannons for only being able to use cannon balls
          but if its just "it cant shoot without ammunition" then no shit moron no gun can do that

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    instead of you dumbasses pretending to know about the topic why not watch a real video of shooting a tank with a civil war era cannon and decide based off that

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HE into the opened hatch

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