What options are there (non-NFA/class 3) for heavy weapons for civilian use? RPKs, M27 style rifle, Tippmann 9mm Gatling (pic rel), guns capable of sustained fire for holding positions n such. Bonus points for high fire rate or MG-like features
Civilian Heavy Weapons
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh none
You can become the owner of a black powder cannon if you so choose.
You don't even have to register it. If you had the funds you could mount several of them inside of a semi truck. This would allow you to engage in roadway broadside against key hard targets.
I like the way you think anon. I’ve thought about volley fire 12 gauge before too, considering it’s so easy to make barrels for it
Someone is making a 6 barrel should fired 12 Guage. It looks like agony to shoot. But you could mount it as a makeshift heavy defensive weapon. Maybe put it on a wire operated turret on an uparmored 4x4. Now you have a pseudo IFV for urban engagements.
it's like the old BFG tracer attack
What I'd give to see the cloud of shot in slow motion.
I follow that guy on the YouTube. I think he mad e a gun out of legos too.
>Tyrese, give these homies a volley!
>ayo, holup!
>Tyreese!! Holup, dawg, why the helllll are us homies gathering on yonder semi-tractor?
>We gots tah do the drive by at zero dark thirty on MLK drive!
>Shequan, Tarquish, all my homies, doest thou not see the straight bussin potential, fr fr?
>Look at deez racks of cannons and bear witness to my legit dope cognition
And then they drove past their targeted enemies gang house and leveled it.
>Look at deez racks of cannons and bear witness to my legit Doo cognition
Fricking lyrical perfection
This as well as trebuchets with pipe bombs. Obviously doesn't need to be as large as medieval ones. One that could fit in a truck bed could probably lob a few pound pipe bomb a couple hundred yards.
What about canisters of pipe bombs lobbed out of full sized trebuchettes as a form of mortar?
Now I'm creaming my pants at the thought of some post-SHTF community buidling those and raiders shitting themselves as a cluster of pipe bombs is hurdled into the air from behind what used to be a suburban fence, spreading out like shot, before air bursting 20 - 30 yards in the air above their heads.
God, what a vision of war that would be.
>the wood creaked under the strain of the counter weight
>its payload of clustered pipe bombs was prepared
>made of finely machine steel pipes from the before times, filled with scrap metal, slag from the forges, and black powder manufactured in the neighborbood
>with little fanfair the multi-fuse was lit
>with a whooshing sound accompanied the array of pipe bombs as they whirled into the air
>the raiders were rushing across the cleared field where homes once stood in the surrounding neighborhoods.
>blood thundering in their ears as their excitement at easy pray propelled them unwittingly into the killing ground
>from behind a wooden privacy fence meant to keep the annoying neighbors out of sight, the wooden arm of the trebuchet rocketed upwards
>the payload flew and tore itself apart as it neared its carefully pre-measured and tested target area
>a hundred tiny gray glinting canisters of death with glittering fuses suddenly burst into a deafening roar
>the cacophony of death erupted into plumes of smoke and flying metal
>thirty raiders were shredded and killed outright by the air bursting fragmentation
>another 20 were severely wounded
>and with that the second battle of [neighborhood] was won before it even started.
That's the spirit!
https://www.coachesclubcannons.com/Cannons/Bowling-Ball-Mortar
>what are some LAW ABIDING “heavy weapons” for my civilian militia 🙂
Break the law you fricking pussy. You’re talking about “law abiding heavy weapons” lmfao you neutered homosexual
It’s not about not breaking the law, it’s about not being able to purchase an M60 in a publix parking lot
Binary and echo triggers maybe as theyre still legal and have been approved by the ATF
IEDs are more effective than machine guns for the insurgent
Barrett m82a1 with API rounds is kinda like a heavy weapon that can be purchased without going through any NFA
another legal loophole:
rifles with a sporting purpose can be in a caliber larger than .50, and don't require most of the ATF regulations.
common stipulations:
>non-standard ammunition are accepted more readily
>bolt actions/manual actions are more readily accepted.
>"traditional style" weapons are more readily accepted.
>strait walled ammo types are more readily accepted.
I think a few common anti-material rifles with auto loading were accepted because they were used to hunt moose. but they were like a slightly over sized .50 cal something like .62.
>moose hunting with a Boys AT rifle
>moose hunting with a PTRD
Who is strapping armor to meese?
Canadian insurgents
Somebody makes a 20mm necked down to .50bmg rifle and accompanying ammo. Should penetrate even better than either by a large margin.
Your only real option is setting up a faux LMG build or "automatic" rifle, kinda thought about doing one for shits and giggles but it'd be pretty crappy at it's intended role.
Ex
>Bipod
>Drum mags
>Prism optic or red dot
>Longish barrel
>Gat crank, meme trigger, or pair of balls and some basic hand tools
You'd be limited by the relative lack of belt fed options on the market, although there technically are some, that and no barrel changes limits you from truly replacing a GPMG/MMG.
>no barrel change
get an AUG and 5x 24" my barrel's, split the barrels and lots of ammo between a gunner and an assistant gunner, swap barrels every 60 rounds or so, rotate them so that you are always using the coolest barrel.
It wouldn't work forever but you could sustain a pretty good rof for a while
Alternative is set up a jank water-cooling system and have assistant gunner carry a bunch of water
I’ve never used them but you could get a semiauto M240 from FN and use that with a trigger crank
Probably easiest is buying some old SAW style civi rifles, closed bolt RPD, BAR, FG42 if you can source mags and ammo I guess since they're basically already ready to go for their original purposes. Otherwise what may or may not be more or less accessible is making your own DIY project off of an AR or AK and aftermarket parts, probably setting you back a few grand all the same. Extra Thicc barrel, bipod, lot of mags and ammo, comfortable furniture. Big advantage of building your own is you could do something stupid like getting a .50 Beo upper for an AR if you can find the rounds.
3lb field gun loaded with canister.
has anyone ever thought about a 12 gauge volley gun? Pointing the barrels at a 45 angle, having a bunch of cheap single shots attached together with a string around the trigger, loading slugs or buckshot(not sure which would be better) and firing it like a shitty mortar?
Yes, but slugs and buckshot are very poor for that purpose because of their shape, they don't preserve penetrating ability like rifle rounds at significant range.
At best a harassment weapon, which isn't useless but not ideal.
Turns out every model of the Tippmann 9mm Gatling is legal in all 50 states, with the only concern being magazine capacity.
>heavy weapons for civilian use? RPKs, M27 style rifle
these don't really fall into definition of "heavy weapons"
>almost every type of Gatling gun.
>coffee grinder guns.
>muzzle loading cannons
>certain breach loading BP cannons, the only one I know for certain is the hotchkiss revolving cannon.
if someone has more information what I do know is that there is a cut off date of about 1886 and if the patent and production model was out before then, than you are able to reproduce and build it without a tax stamp.
stipulations:
>must use Black powder.
>must use a single solid projectile.
>can use "starburst."
>can use canister shot.
>can use synth BP substitute
>can use modern manufacturing methods.
>some designs can use modern ammo for other legal reasons unrelated to the 1886 cut off, usually a Gatling gun.
fact check please.