A civil war would not be realistic because the US military will clamp on hard when it breaks out in small scale and won't let it develop into full blown war. It doesn’t matter how many guns Americans have either. The military has artillery, bombs, planes, a navy, and helicopters. Not to mention NUKES. If existence of the government is threatened there is no doubt they would nuke their own population. There’s not even any civilian leaders to rally around or real animosity between the sides. Basically it won’t happen and even if it did it we won’t win. So stop fantasizing about a “civil war”.
nah, the military is not big enough to contain something like that
More like Americans are too lazy to even do it. They're all talk no action
If people cant feed themselves the most law abiding person will commit the worst atrocities.
The powers that be think they're punishing us with their bullshit but in reality they're just adding on top of the fire. It's odd considering they consider themselves smart
In Russia in the early 1920s children were not allowed outside after dark because they'd be hunted for meat. Shit can go south really fast without food.
Yes.
Are u waking up that commies deserve to be lit on fire? Whether israelite israelite Black person beaner white trash cracker mayo Black person. Slant eyes israelites. I treat everyone the same. Good. I've seen and heard every lie of this World. I've given so much and no one has offered me anything. It's my fault your ugly and stupid. Amish paradise
Some anon last night was posting shit from the Chinese famine during the 50s/60s
Lots of soul crushing despair and cannibalism but this is moaist china that had a semblance of control, not the total balkanized ultraviolent america where we're all gonna get into a gunfight for a dented can of tomatoes
There are no animals to hunt in China like there are here. Midwest states, rural areas would survive. City Black folk will starve and be blockaded in their cities.
I mean rural America, geographically, is fricking huge but you're talking like 100 million people now going to subsistence farming and hunting. Prey populations are going to be annihilated within the first year, especially in the north as families prep for winter
I would love to round up all those wicked apathetic do-nothing fat subhuman bastards and purge them from the genepool. Frickin' pigs.
It would be over so fast. You clowns are lucky. You think Lancaster is crazy wait until I unleash my hillbillies. I'm also Mexican Indian. Wait until the cartels show up. You frick with the American people you will be slaughtered.
The cartel would go so fricking ham on the US army it wouldn't even be funny.
The cartel is also a shining example of how gun control doesn't work considering civvies in Mexico aren't even allowed to own guns.
Why the frick would I send the cartels to kill army men? I'll send them to kill treachery to honor.
Kek, cartels would attack everyone to take territory for themselves.
And if the government tried to ally with cartels, they would just turn more fence sitters against them. There is no way the government would win.
Idiot cartels profit of the drug trade. Dumb Black person Obama fast and furious. When the dollar becomes worthless like your existence everything will become chaos. Government is 100% the cause of Evil. I hate this place. I would be happy with a spear to hunt and a bush to drag by the hair. Oh my own cave where I can just kill you for getting close to my bush. It's my bush. I will have you wander for 40 years with no purpose.
Kek
Kvetch more israelite.
The trash of Europe runs it's worthless tongue. Hows Portugal doing. I bet your not even a Franco just another dirty north african.
Cry more israelite. Go paint a swastika on some Synagogue or something.
I'm neither, but your a fool. Want to meet somewhere and fight to the death? Fricking spic
Keep crying israelite. I bet you're a Black person israelite, extremely emotional.
Sadly I'm not a israelite, but certainly I'd prefer it over the wit ur trash mind breeds.
Black person.
That's what a israelite would say.
Funny I wonder whom they would turn thy back upon. A dead Government or someone this Country is named after. I swear to God on everything that is Holy. The last thing you will see is the wrath of the Lord. I'm bringing William Marshall and the Duke of Clarence. israelite turds. I'm so beyond you. I've grown tired of thy ill gotten gains. You think when Henry slaughtered his brothers, why would he ever care about a disgusting race. Lying israelites. Failed God Failed humankind. The worst of every tribe. No point caring about Jerusalem when your all fricking scum.
THIS
I like how these people act like there wouldn't be defectors or switching sides, and soldiers who refuse to follow orders and deserters.
It literally takes 1 patriotic Nuke Sub captain and the government is utterly fricked
But the trannies will save hunter and joe and nancy too
No shut up fedboi
> because the US military will clamp on hard when it breaks out
I hope you gays sincerely believe that and act accordingly. That would be so great.
Stop spreading misinformation. It has been debunked by experts.
Now go back to redd1t.
All out chaos towards you glow in the darks. You don't want it
Do you ever think they believe their own bullshit? How hard are glow-homosexuals going to get curb-stomped when then end comes, if they think they can just roll a tank down a suburb and not expect meaningful resistance.
Glow bois are very fricked. And they know it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kDXtZPqVmEEY
>t. moron
>start cells in Chicago, New York City, LA, and the Bay Area
>the USG nukes each city
this
Are you that same anon that fangirls over Spain?
Civil war is literally their nightmare scenario. They would rather fight off a joint invasion by Russia and China.
Funny how we don't call the Revolutionary War a "civil war" isn't it.
We won't call the next one a civil war, either.
>Civil war vs revolution
The difference seems to be who wins. Current power keeps power = civil war. Current power replaced by new power= revolution.
I wouldn’t say that
The english civil war with cromwell is known as a civil war, even though he won
Good point
The monarchy came back, so it's debatable whether Cromwell won. It's generally considered that Cromwell paved the way for the American Revolution.
even more reason to hate cromwell
Him letting the israelitery back into England was my major point against him
thats just citizens against citizens. what we need is a revolution...and that is why they are trying to give us a civil war instead because that isnt as great of a threat to them.
>The military has artillery, bombs, planes, a navy, and helicopters
How many times does this have to be said?
Those aren’t for fighting insurgencies. They’re for fighting symmetrical wars, I.e against other militaries with the same fancy equipment. A main battle tank is good at taking out other main battle tanks, but it can’t police a town.
It does in fact have a role… but not a civil war.
German infranry/armor tactics, adopted by the USA have existed for 80 years.
Tank rolls down street accompanied by a platoon. The platoons fans out to kill molotov wielding insurgents or anyone else who wants to get close to the tank. Also, on patrol for insurgents.
When a sniper is found trying to kill the infantry, the tank blows a hole in the entire building where the sniper fire came from.
This is total war shit. The Russians have done this in Ukraine, as an invader. There is not context to use it domestically.
If things were so bad, that the US army is willing to send a Sabot round into a U.S. apartment building, they have totally lost control.
The only way any of the big guns get used is if all order has been lost.
>ignoring the brand new footage of shoulder fired anti-tank lineup
Goddamn man, do you even?
I don't know what it would take to trigger one. Seems like 2020 was the parfect storm and nothing happened other than half the country kneeling to nignogs.
It just wasn't bad enough yet, Trump was still prez, people's 401ks were doing well, gas was cheaper than ever, inflation wasn't bad. Now look, people fed up more than ever.
I suppose. Well, fingers crossed.
We make fun of euros for being cucks when they used to be world conquerors. I don't think we realize we're just like the euros pre WWI.
The military has admitted it would only take about 3% of the population to overthrow the government.
That would be roughly 10 million people. If only 10% of that were actively engaged as insurgents and the other 90% were purely support and logistics you'd still be doing more damage than the US militaries could keep up with. They couldn't drone fast enough to keep back 10% of that 10% of 3% of 375,000,000.
"Just nuke your own people and infrastructure bro."
Also it's not like the military would unanimously agree to attacking it's own populace.
>Also it's not like the military would unanimously agree to attacking it's own populace.
Of course they would. The US military is 100% brainwashed and would do anything to protect their measly little low paying jobs
WRONG gayGET
kek whatever happened to that guy? Do we know his opinion on Ukraine? What about masking?
You're wrong. Military is still, even with Obamas moves, still mostly Conservative. If asked to kill other conservatives, they would either desert or flip immediately. Brass is one thing. Rank and file? Completely different.
Savimg this IMG to hammer home to boomers that the good guys did not win ww2
I bet a lot of the military would agree to turning the cities cited in
into HIMARS heaven, though, and probably even more so for people actually from LA and the Bay Area.
The Military with 85 billion dollars worth of weapons, planes and helis just lost to a bunch of sandal shot farmers under Biden.
>imagine the fricking smell
That room got a good fumigation after that little meet-up, I'm sure.
It was on purpose. War is a money laundering machine for the wealthy
Vietnam was on purpose, too?
The military is composed of the people. They're not the President's mindless execution squad.
Literally this, the second they start offing civilians is the second we start getting military grade weapons to fight the suits in DC. It's over for them the shooting just hasn't begun yet.
> The military is composed of the people
Of what people? Remember recent army ads? There were no Americans in them.
134 million Right Wing Whites vs 2 million demoralized zogbots. 97% of America is rural and we can hide in the mountains spread out over huge areas. Nah, zogbots are little pussys and they're going to get stomped.
>1PBTID
also tell that to the taliban.
>the taliban will never kick out the american occupation.
>nukes
besides, unless the military is composed entirely of trannies and homosexuals, most people would be too apprehensive about opening fire on their own neighbors.
>A civil war would not be realistic because the US military will clamp on hard when it breaks out in small scale and won't let it develop into full blown war. It doesn’t matter how many guns Americans have either. The military has artillery, bombs, planes, a navy, and helicopters. Not to mention NUKES. If existence of the government is threatened there is no doubt they would nuke their own population. There’s not even any civilian leaders to rally around or real animosity between the sides. Basically it won’t happen and even if it did it we won’t win. So stop fantasizing about a “civil war”.
Thats literally the exact opposite of what they would do.
They would literally try and have the police militarized to the highest extend possible and avoid the use of the Military because thats the game changer.
Most revolutions have a few false starts.
You have a lot more faith in state security services than you should
you mean with their bedazzled purses and trannies...? LOL
>They have nukes
So.. the us army are going to nuke their own territory?
Also I thought even in the event of war the us army can not operate on US soil only the national guard are allowed.
The military isn’t allowed to operate on us soil. Its not in the constitution, though. It’s a law that can be repealed if Congress was scared.
>clamp down hard
Like in the summer of 2020? Will they use drones. The villain who will be too widespread and decentralized to contain. The amount of security the government needs to defend its own assets will require a ton of manpower they don’t have.
The military could literally draft tens of millions of loyalist from its own population anon, you’re assuming the military would be alone in this what if conflict. If they wanted to they could draft 50 million Americans to fight on their side as militias.
They don't have enough people fit for people to fill their yearly recruitment quotas, the candidate pool is an absolute disgrace, and nobody likes Biden because he fricked the whole economy.
Draft would be ignored.
*fit for service
No one wants to join. 70% of Americans a too fat/dumb. All you need to do if grind up the police until they can’t get recruits. There is no draft to force people to become cops.
>civil war breaks out
>draft every single male between 18 and 45
>whoops! We are all on the same side now
>happening canceled
Kek
tens of millions of federal loyalists don't exist. tens of thousands, but most of those won't respond to a draft notice, especially during a hot conflict.
Its currently winding down, dipshit. You've waited for the happening throughout most of the happenings, oblivious. You've left me no choice to but to say Black person to you. Black person.
>basically kicked out of Afghanistan
>did nothing during the chimpout
>but daddy gubmint will kill all you racist nazi bad people
>just you wait
okay
ty. no need to re-debunk moron fed gun grabber points.
The American Military couldn’t beat a bunch of rice farmers or goat herders living in caves in the sides of mountains.
It’s a meme, played up in Hollywood movies to make them look tough and the good guys. When the military now is mostly non white or mutt.
America is a clown country.
The military could have, but the leadership didn't have the balls to actually wage war in a way their opponents understood. BLU-82s should have been used from the beginning in both failed wars because it sent a very clear message: Frick with us, and we will remove you and your whole village from existence.
Basically, you just tell the opposing side that any negative activity detected from any village area will result in the relevant village being permanently removed. You tell them this a week or so before the campaign begins, along with extensive carpet-bombing with cruise-missile-delivered leaflets announcing the upcoming show.
After that, you simply follow through. For example, following a report of negative activity around the village of suc mai kok, you let the villagers know 24 hours ahead of time, also by leaflet-bombing (make the paper usable; if they can use it as better toilet paper than their government prescribes, they will be more likely to welcome you as liberators), that their village will no longer exist by, say, noon tomorrow.
The first couple villages won't believe you, thinking it's just another pussy, American-style bluff, but a few first-hand experiences with fuel-air explosives will soon change their minds, and then, finally, once all the annoyances have been eliminated, there will be peace.
What makes you think US government will use this tactic against their own citizens if they didn’t do it against rice farmers?
I want it to happen but it never will. There's no way to organize groups fighting back with megacucked social media. This will just continue to be a slow decline into communist big government takeover.
There’s 84,000,000 private gun owners and 400,000,000 guns. The government’s strength is 800,000 police, 1,400,000 military, and 800,000 reserves. They can’t control a nation this size all at once. Only the major metropolitan areas will be secured.
And those can be sabotaged and sieged.
And that’s when you go for infrastructure/supply lines
I love how you people say this stupid fricking shit without even considering that you have no organization, no plan, no targets, no training, no long term, off-grid survivability, etc etc etc...
Its like thinking you could walk into a college theatre class and put on an impromptu performance of Les Miserables with no rehearsal, no casting, no director, etc
You're so fricking stupid it pains me.
That’s a lot of assumptions kek
Sri Lanka is an excelent case study, literal Indian morons with stones and sticks toppled their government despite the military shooting them to kill.
Americans have much more knowledge, better genetics and hundreds of millions of guns and hundreds of billions of ammo rounds. Good luck pal.
>toppled their government despite the military shooting them to kill.
They didn’t anon, the government pacified their population. Order restored.
>sri lanka
>order
lel
Kek, yeah right, a country with no food, no fuel, no fertilizer, and a population that stoned politicians to death outside their mansions. Truly an orderly place.
>Americans have much more knowledge, better genetics and hundreds of millions of guns and hundreds of billions of ammo rounds.
They're also fatter, in worse shape, less used to hardship and have a whole lot more to lose.
>have a lot more to lose
That's changing very fast. The government is defending pedos and groomers, and people can barely afford paying for gas to get to get to work.
As for the fat part of the equation, I suggest you see what types of people the US Mil recruitment ads are trying to rope in. Literally 100 pound leftist women raised by lesbians.
Government would be doomed.
>100’s of billions.
Try 1000’s of billions. The American people have over 1 trillion rounds.
That's very nice to hear. God bless America.
>impromptu performance of Les Miserables with no rehearsal, no casting, no director,
Steal Le bread
Man raises fist, "You are Le bad!"
Fin
Audience applause
Kek
French bros...
> There’s 84,000,000 private gun owners and 400,000,000 guns. The government’s strength is 800,000 police, 1,400,000 military, and 800,000 reserves. They can’t control a nation this size all at once. Only the major metropolitan areas will be secured.
Why do anons assumes that the military be the only ones fighting? There could potentially be 100 million American loyalist who would lay down their lifes fight with the military and the government. This would be more than enough to pacify the metropolitan areas and the country side. Face it happeningbros, a civil war is unwinnable and downright unrealistic.
>100 million American loyalist who would lay down their lifes fight with the military and the government
Delusional
Wrong. The government has taken all their comforts and mocks them at every turn by sending billions to Israel and Ukraine. Everyone hates the government because they cannot pay their bills. There are no loyalists to the government among the civilians.
>thinks americans like their politicians
this sounds like coping. americans like their comfort, and even that is fading.
This is such a very odd take. I’m genuinely confused about what you think a civil war is and how you think the sides might shake out.
I don’t think the elites would allow a civil war to occur. It would hurt their assets and they would be forced to choose sides immediately. China would probably takeover the global stage as America status would decrease. The most we’ll see is terrorism.
They could have started a civil war because they didn’t like Trumps tweets. The American elite have lived the good life too long and are delusional.
Think of France before the revolution. That’s America now and the elite desperately trying to divide the population to hide their non stop frick ups.
>Think of France before the revolution. That’s America now
I dont think enough people understand this. Even though the israelite world order Black folk have been planning shit for centuries I still firmly believe that they're just out of touch at this point. Bread and circuses are what stops revolts but this current batch of israelite world order Black folk have royally fricked up those two simple things. Their current playthrough only makes sense if they're genuinely unaware of the reality of the situation.
>itz gon b like 1776
>*gets killed by drone strike*
see
>you better give up your guns or we'll kill you with drone strikes
Yeah. Whatever I think about the current UK political and financial establishment, they don't keep threatening to kill us with drone strikes if we act up.
With a country full of real men who shared a deep religious and cultural bond (i.e. like you had in Afghanistan), the US government and military wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. But in a country full of dickless, materialistic consumer cattle who believe in nothing and get all their culture from corporations (I.e. who we actually are as a nation), it will be over in a week.
And if you didnt already learn from the George Floyd riots, the 2020 election and covid they nobody will even fight, you're seriously fricking moronic and delusional. People can't just break out of their LARP hypnosis about "muh 2nd American Revolution" no matter how much damning evidence they're exposed to.
All I know is that the Eurohomosexuals will have a FIELD DAY on this board when it happens (by which I mean doesn't happen at all).
>these people will nuke their own country to win so just submit to them ok
Lol
The government needs infrastructure. A lineman with a pair of wire cutters and knowledge of fiber optic equipment could debilitate an entire city.
All the rebels need are time & opportunity.
>A worthy read.
10 snipers can shut down at least 2 cities. 100 can shut it all down to really hurt. 1k and we are getting closer to all the dominoes falling. 100k and its cake.
im not really scared of a group of rednecks who barely know how to use a computer let alone build devices and plans to do anything more then just shut off the power and be more of a burden on some 35 yearold utility repair guy who now has to fix your stupid shit on his work week while the cops gun you all down.
Cops have shitty guns and aim. They are an embarrassment at the 300 yrd line.
its not about the firearm its about the training behind it.
~vietnam
Maybe back then with irons, shitty triggers and optics. It's point and click now to 1300 yrds. Get hit in a different zipcode.
>Vietnam
You mean the conflict where they just trained spray n pray because troops struggled to aim and kill men with accurate shootingcuz muh feels? That sort of training?
>troops struggled to aim
was Vietnam entirely about infantry combat small arms?
>artillery
>close air support
>interdiction
>long range high altitude bombing
plus all the stuff they couldn't/wouldn't deploy due to ROE
the vietnamese were actually trained very well by this point in handling fire arms and vietman didnt exactly have the best rap sheet on restricting firearms at all. the average viet had more raw firearm experience then your average american. typically when it came to the vietnamese it was mainly people who were to young for war that got "spray and pray"
the older members who have either had a bad life or were doing wars before are going to be the ones who never hear about dying. the vietnamese were fricked back then even doing stuff like shoving a grenade up a childs ass and then telling that child to run towards american troops and then blow up.
yes how ever even before 1300 yards with a rifle wasn't impossible with the correct training.
>remove the last vestiges of decentralized media
>thinks it helps his cause
HI moron.
I used to climb radio freq. towers for a living.
I used to splice fiber optic
I know how to climb telephone poles with hooks/boots
I know where to look for fiber optic trunk lines
I know which lines to cut to shut down radio comms for fire/police
I could rape an entire cities' infrastructure/communications and be gone before anyone knew I was there.
You should share.
>proves he can't read
>calls anyone else a moron
You ever seen that video of a guy in the middle of the woods at night some 10 km (6 miles) away from a loud music festival in the distance, he opens a box in a pole, pulls or cuts something inside and the whole music festival just suffers a total blackout. Kek
Is this the one?
That's it.
It always makes me kek
Oh yes, just like in Afghanistan.
The US Military is all fricked.
Most of the military would be on the side of the rebels
It will happen if the US military fractures and mutinies.
In turkey they were able to spray a crowd with a helicopter once and shoot into a crowd with a tank once before soldiers rebelled. They marxist democrats unleashed domestic terror, the GOP pharisees responded with a dead economy
This is the carrot and stick btw. Ron desantis will easily win 2024. Zionists herding animals around nothing more
None of those things won in Afghanistan.
why do idiots bring up nukes, no country is going to nuke itself during a civil war lol
Because some israelite on twitter did it once. Rhetoric or not, any government official that uses a nuke against the citizenry can look forward to being hunted down like an animal and having their entire bloodline tortured to death.
That's another aspect of civil war / revolution, all the soldiers that didn't join the people would have their families tortured and killed by the insurgents.
All it takes is one battle where yes the rednecks lose but show valor and do more damage than expected and then people rally around that.
Remember the Alamo?
>A civil war would not be realistic
Agreed.
It’s going to be a revolution.
>If existence of the government is threatened there is no doubt they would nuke their own population
Didn't happen in Russia.
Former red team planner for the government here.
The United States Government has extensively studied the concept of second American Civil War (along the assumption that it will be left versus right. HMM. I WONDER WHY THEY MIGHT POSSIBLY DO THAT.)
Their conclusion is as follows: They don’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning. The moment civil war is declared, the government loses. No scenario or outcome ends in their success. Period. It’s just a matter of how long it takes.
A longer analysis will follow, but here are the salient points.
30% of the American population will actively revolt.
This alone is enormous and damning. Historically, you only need 10% of the population to actively participate in a rebellion to successfully overthrow the establishment: We only had 15% of the population actively attempting to throw out the British during the Revolutionary War; roughly 70% of what remained was neutral and simply stood by. By contrast, 30% of Americans in modern America would support a revolution to stop their own government if it happened tomorrow That’s how discontent the people are and how much the people don’t support the government.
The government would need infrastructure more than rebels would.
Already working with significant handicaps, the establishment would need electricity, access to the Internet, bridges, and airports to coordinate any active campaign against the rebellion. By contrast, the rebellion can work in the dark. Considering how easy it would be to sabotage US infrastructure, one of the first things the rebellion would do is collapse bridges, destroy, or seize power plants, and cover the Interstate in IEDs. This is relatively simple to accomplish, and it would inflict enormous damage on the establishment’s ability to restore order. It would also cost an enormous amount of time and effort to fix any sabotage, because the establishment would need to provide military protection to any workers attempting to rebuild, which is a drain their active fighting personnel resources that they could not afford.
Taking America in a land war is almost impossible.
The United States is absolutely full of natural terrain chokepoints, making marching an army across it against armed resistance almost impossible, and it is large enough that no sustained air campaign would be possible. The Japanese Admiralty realized this themselves during WWII, which is why many of them were against attempting to invade. Also, by an interesting coincidence, most of those chokepoints are in hard conservative states, where the resistance would be strongest. The government would lack the ability to reclaim its own land by force, especially when the previous point about infrastructure is taken into account. President Lincoln, on the matter of potential European involvement in the first American Civil War, stated, “All the armies of Europe with a Bonaparte as a commander, could not take a drink from the Ohio.”
A significant majority–between 55 and 70%–of the military would defect to the side of the citizens.
The problem with suppressing the people with a military, that literature and fantasy tend to overlook or ignore, is that the military is the people, too. In order to get any military to fight their own, you first have to convince them that it is necessary to do so–that it is justified. The Communists also ran into this problem, but they overcame it with psychological conditioning and creating a dog-eat-dog atmosphere within the military. The American government having actively recruited people who are patriotic, practical, brave, who have civilian families, and having reinforced those values throughout their training process, lacks the ability to convince the majority of their fighting force to engage against their own people. The moment a civil war breaks out, over half of the American military will defect to the rebel side. They will bring military gear with them and, more dangerous, military training. lt only takes one Navy Seal or Army Ranger to potentially train hundreds of civilians into a dangerous resistance force. They’ve done it before, in other nations. You can be damn sure they can do it on their own home turf.
But it gets better.
At least 10% of the people who defect to the civilian side would not do so openly, and they would not abandon their posts.
The moment a civil war starts, not only does America lose over half its military to the cause, but their own command structure will suddenly be infested with moles, plants, and “traitors.” There would be almost no way of knowing who is actually on their side and who is supporting the uprising. Worse yet, if one of those people happens to be the captain of one of the nuclear submarines on standby in dark water, the civil war is already lost before it even gets started.
Russia has already publicly stated that it will support any rebellion in the United States against the established government and will send troops and aid to support the resistance. This is pretty self-explanatory. The last thing the government would need during a civil war is Russia breathing down its neck, but they would get exactly that. To supplement two-thirds of their own military leaving and civilians being trained by military elites, Spetsnaz would drop in and the resistance would get armor and air support from the only other nation on the planet that stands a decent chance of fighting us openly and winning.
The media fearmongers because it’s profitable.
The media, for all of its paid shillery, would give coverage of everything the resistance does because it is immensely profitable for them to do so. It would be guaranteed views. The only response the establishment would have would be to either allow it or order a total media blackout on the rebellion. Either way they lose, because both outcomes would awaken hundreds of thousands–if not millions–of people. We can only win on the media arena, and they can only lose. It’s merely a matter of what they think will minimize their losses.
American civilians are armed and dangerous.
In spite of all of the illegal attempts from the political left to disarm the American people, there are approximately 89 guns for every 100 Americans. Furthermore, we are one of the top three arms manufacturers on the planet (the others being Russia and France). The establishment would be in trouble even if their opponents were unarmed, but any rebellion of the people in America is, by definition, an armed one. They could be easily armed further by stealing weapons or even outright being given them by sympathetic interests (unsurprisingly, an overwhelming number of weapons manufacturers on American soil are deeply traditionalist, and the odds are good that many minor–and at least one major–would side with the rebels).
The last resort Catch 22.
The United States has an enormous stockpile of munitions and explosives, up to and including a massive number of nuclear warheads. But they cannot use any of this in this Civil War. The establishment has to play a game of “we’re the good guys” with the rest of the world while this is all taking place. There will be lines they cannot cross, because to do so would elevate the issue from being an internal matter to an international one. The moment they throw an ICBM at Ohio or drop a nuke on Austin, Texas, it stops being a civil war and becomes an international relief effort where the other militaries of the other first world nations come to save the American people from their own out-of-control and tyrannical government. The rebellion, meanwhile, is not nearly so limited re: the hypothetical nuclear submarine captain. The rebels could threaten–without bluffing–to nuke Washington DC, but the establishment has no equivalent threat they could return.
Deeper Analysis:
If there was a revolution in the US, the rest of the world would get involved, fast. Depending on the type of uprising, there is a large chance that it would not be a quick affair. It would be brutal, it would be bloody, and the US government could start a global scale war.
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The US power grid can be taken down by a series of “surgical strikes” with the exception of the Texas grid. By surgical strikes, I mean a few marksmen (US army-tier Marksmen–the minimum requirement) hitting certain spots on the grid would frick a lot of the military and government because they need the grid more than Bubba and his friends do. Additionally, while all government agencies have backup generators, they will be hard pressed dealing with the resultant looting and other madness that would come with power outages. This would effectively create another front for the military. It would also turn the people against the government more quickly and paralyze the government’s propaganda machine. Worse still–the key points of the US power grid are publicly obtainable information, and not only are the points too many to be effectively guarded, they are not guarded anyway.
The estimated desertion rate in case of a civil war is 75% in the case of a left-wing president. 50% of that would be assumed to immediately betray the president. The remaining (treasonous) military would be fighting its own. Yet another front created in the war. Additionally, there is an assumed 25-50% desertion or outright betrayal rate in three letter government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, ATC, TSA, etc.).
Additionally, it is assumed that 5% of the initial 50% betrayers would stay in their job and become saboteurs. 10% of that 50% would contain key information that would be of critical danger to the US government. Of that 10%, 1% would be able to deliver that information to the US’ foreign enemies. What you should get from this is that the second the United States government declares war on its own is the second it ceases to exist as the state we know it.
“Tea baggers,” “right-wing extremists,” and “oath keepers” which are considered untrained racists who aren’t “good with a gun” often are A) veterans who now have more time to have fun at the range, sometimes more than some Army units or Marine units. In addition to previous military training, B) often camp and do other outdoor activities–more than many in the military do, as the focus has gone away from field exercises, and C) often have better equipment–outside of armor and heavy weapons–than the military. However, C) is kind of irrelevant because many of the places in which these people could hide would make the kind of war the US fights with the equipment they use pointless.
Outside influence is a huge problem. Russia has already stated they would back a Texas separatist movement, and right now we already have enough problem keeping Islam in check. The second the US has to fight in a “civil war” is the second it becomes a proxy war between NATO and whoever wants to mess with America. While America has amazing nuclear and air defense, if it comes to a civil war you have to assume that in a best cast scenario the US military is going to be operating at 50% capacity at best. Shit would go down. Hard. And fast. And if Russia–spoiler alert: one of the best militaries in the world at fighting in an urban environment–sent trainers and helpers to rebels, you can reliably bet that they would also possibly deliver weapons to them. So instead of fighting “Timmy TeaBagger,” you are fighting “Timmy TeaBagger who is buddies with Vlad.”
A civil war is not just the US versus the rebels. There will be looting. There will be rioting. Cities will burn. The National Guard cannot fight both the rebels and rioters in a city that would also cut off their supplies. Additionally, if you don’t think that the rebels will send in instigators into the cities–or worse, stand alone actors (A Lone Wolf on steroids. Think Timothy McVeigh, but instead of one van they have a whole fleet of them. A good movie example would be Bane)–you would be mistaken. If the US government cannot even help its own people, why would its own people support the remaining (treasonous) military? Worse yet, if someone emptied out prisons (There are more prisoners in the US than there are people in the entire Chinese Army), you would have more crime than the police could ever handle.
Logistics and infrastructure in the US are crumbling and failing. Any war fought against a rebellion in the US would be a logistical nightmare, even before the rebels started going full Al-Qaida and putting IEDs in the road. A retired general who was contracting with us on the team said, “The only thing holding together the US’ infrastructure is duct tape and the will of the Department of Transportation. And often enough, there isn't enough duct tape.” Your most loyal cities to the US government, as we polled, are also the most logistically easy to cut off. NYC? San Fran? L.A.? D.C.? Baltimore? Most of them require crossing water to enter, from certain directions. Most of them have critical airports. Some of them have critical ocean ports. If anything happened to just TWO of the cities on the list, it would create a logistical clusterfrick.
Your “Johnny Reb” and “Timmy TeaBagger” states (i.e., “red” states) all have something most of your “oh so progressive,” “Aren’t we so European,” “Oh my god, we are just like Sweden,” blue states don’t. Blues are mainly consumer states. Reds are producer states. Urban areas don’t have farms. The second that shit goes down, realize a lot of those blue areas are likely to starve. In a civil war scenario, we predicted that at least 10,000 people would die of starvation if the war was not finished in a year. The numbers get worse after that. Or better, rather, for the country after the war.
The US has way too many choke points, and the government forces would often be on the wrong side of them. This ties into the logistical nightmare, but it also has to do with an odd phenomena. Liberals like to live near the ocean. Many of the dividers of the country, like the Rocky Mountains, the Mississippi River, Appalachia, the Missouri River (fun fact: the biggest choke point for the US government is in Missouri) are red state areas. Sure, air travel is a thing, but a majority of the US government's needs would have to travel by ground. Even still, many of the major airports are outside of the city. Of course, the US would use military base air fields, but if civil war did break out… which bases would be safe? Which ones would have fallen to the deserters?
PR Nightmare. Every rebel killed on CNN would be spun as “the US government killed X Civilians today in a strike” on foreign news and pirate media not owned by the government. That is–as pointed out earlier–if the US media could even function in a civil war or uprising. Your “rebel scum” know that the main thing that holds together the US–nay life in the US as we know it–is the 24 hour news cycle and the media. The second it's gone, you are going to have urban anarchy. If you are from America, can you imagine a day without TV, newspaper, or Internet? Your average urban youth can’t. If you don’t think that isn’t going to cause rioting, you must have a real high regard for how much restraint they have. Assume in a civil war that your ability to talk to the people is compromised. Also assume that in the case of a civil war that rebels may know how to monitor conversations like the US does, as there are manuals online on how to do so.
This one is either 1 or 10, depending on who is asked. The US will never nuke its own. The second it does, they have lost the civil war and other countries will come to “liberate” the US from its own “repressive regime.” Additionally, if any general, minuteman, nuke tech, or nuke sub captain decided to side with the rebellion, the US government is immediately SOL.
In short: The second that a “civilian uprising” or “extremist group terrorist attack” turns into “civil war” is the second the US loses. As a result, you will never see a civil war. You will see Waco, you will see Bundy Ranch, you will see all sorts of militant group confrontations and maybe even some skirmishes. But the US government fears its own people way the frick too much to ever start a civil war.
As an American, I want all other Americans here to remember this. The government is against you, almost openly now, but they also know that they cannot win if it comes to open war. We have a trump card they cannot match. If it comes to a fight, THEY WILL LOSE, so there are elements in the establishment who will do absolutely everything in their power to prevent it from coming to that. The US Government is not in support of its people, and the people are not in support of the government.
It is within the means of certain interests to start World War III simply as a distraction to avoid an American Civil War, because, by their reckoning, it is better to ruin other “lesser” nations like Syria and spill the blood of patriots than lose their own grip on power. YOU HEARD RIGHT. WORLD WAR III ITSELF COULD BE A DELIBERATE FALSE FLAG TO PREVENT A POWER CHANGE IN AMERICA. REMEMBER THIS.
>If existence of the government is threatened there is no doubt they would nuke their own population.
If your government would nuke it's own people, then you're on the wrong side butthole
That kid was based. 99% of pol doesn't have balls big enough to do anything even close to that.
He was really brave and based.
Civil war over what exactly? The Civil war is not gonna happen since life in America is better than 99% of the whole world. You have to be insane to start it simply because gas prices went up just a little bit
You're probably right. As long as welfare and internet and pizza deliveries continue a civil is unlikely. But if the strain on the infrastructure gets to be too much...
The Great Replacement. Illegitimate government
Feds are openly arresting people for political reasons, the US is a huge powder keg.
Irreconcilable ideological conflict.
The ideology of corporate neoliberalism is as alien to us as Chinese style Communism. There is nothing to compromise over. There is no compromising on demographic replacement. They literally think that the US ought to be non-White and adhere to Central American style moron socialism.
NO SHIT
Americans are spoiled, ignorant BRATS
"WHAAAAAA brown people live near me, this is fricking genocide!"
It will be the Irish Troubles 2.0
I hope everyone larping on this board gets black bagged.
>I just wanted to play vidya
So go play your games and shut the frick up. You have no understanding of what your fantasies truly mean.
homosexual
Jesus fricking Christ. You really want a war vs the white man?
I'm white you dumb c**t
>The white man
Who is that?
The WASPS and European nobility Fabian gays who are more important than those israelites you hate? You're so fricking stupid
It is elite v. Non elite and guess what?
When Rome fell the elites moved on.
History repeats, everything happening now has happened before
>They
Maybe they're just moronic. You see wolf of wall street? The original wall Street? Neoliberalism is as American as it gets you fricking idiot.
Check out the gilded age and yellow journalism
EVERYTHING THATS HAPPENING RN IS HAPPENING BEFORE
>conspiracy
You people are so fricking stupid. Your critique of black culture is apt, but more WASPS than israelites run shit but they're all satanic israeli freemasons right?
Maybe you're just dumb white trash the elite whites shit on for fun. Keep those blinders on!
Ya I'm Lancaster and I want War. This is my Country. This is my World. I will show you William the Conquerer. I will show you the battle of Agincourt. I will show what lies bring you. Fricking stupid c**ts
Found another israelite.
VIDEO: The Great Replacement By City (1910 - 2020)
https://gab.com/VDARE/posts/108353807451571042
Documentary: "In Their Own Words - White Genocide Is Real"
https://odysee.com/@ipnewsandreviews:a/-White-Genocide-in-their-own-words:0
>take away the guns
>frick kids openly
ya theres literally no reason to start a civil war
Yemen is 110,
https://www.timesofisrael.com/some-of-yemens-last-remaining-jews-said-expelled-by-iran-backed-houthis/
Afghanistan is 111,
https://apnews.com/article/c616b5b847da79f0cfc1de6f0f37b0b7
America will be 112.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10896935/73-Trump-voters-think-Democrats-trying-REPLACE-white-people-win-votes.html
>the US military will clamp on hard
I don't think you know how civil wars work.
This post glows so hard it gave me cancer
you are beyond moronic and shouldn't be talking about something that you clearly do not understand. stop playing video games and start researching 20th century history.
>He thinks the US Military is equipped to fight 50 million civilians with a wide range of modern weapon systems and equipment and a guaranteed defection rate of 25% at the bare minimum
>guaranteed defection rate of 25% at the bare minimum
Way low
Is OP the stupidest of Black personed Black personousness.
No. The government is watching for any potential leadership. Without leadership, any 'uprisings' Will be small and local which isn't a threat.
>average suburban neighborhood
>every other house is gadsen flags and infowars bumper stickers, the others are rainbow flags and "in this house we worship Black folk" placards
PLEASE shoot hellfire missiles at chud houses, PLEASE nuke chud houses, I'm begging you.
If you think the US government is going to nuke its populace over social unrest you're a Black person-brained moron, Agent Smith. Your gilded shoulder-pad fantasy is going to turn out more like a cold damp basement. Come ask me questions.
so your big assumption is the military would be united in support of the authoritarian israelites and would not defect
The civil war wasn't fought by small individual groups of people rising up, it was fought by entire states refusing to comply with the feds. The second civil war will start the same way. Half or more of the US military assets will be in enemy territory on day one.
this.
red states will simply say frick you to democrat autocracy
democrats will start the war because they are c**ts who cant stand being denied power
A large group of police sit outside the school as one guy is killing children. Do you really think they would want to face civil war?
>US Military
>vs
>guerrilla warfare
they havent even fought white people in over 70 years. there is no military veteran or leadership that has seen combat against white people. remember they got their asses kicked for most of ww2 until mass manufacturing caught up and the russians did the legwork to put the germans on the defense
Bingo. ~~*They*~~ are afraid of all out war against white people. That’s why ~~*they*~~ lean so heavily on Psy Ops.
its smart why would they bother with the costs and risks and challenge of waging war against the entire population when they can easily just control the head of the snake like a parasite and therefore control the masses by proxy. red team, blue team, netflix, Black personball, its all for control
The problem is their infrastructure is dependent on the same places they’re nuking.
They go home to the same towns of those insurgents.
Their spouses go to the same grocery stores.
The nation cannot survive a civil war.
But the people can.
Interesting take. Everyone hates each other too much for a civil war. It would take unrivaled cooperation to challenge our government. Everyone’s too comfortable and addicted to outrage.
>no real animosity between the sides.
Anyone wanna inform anon?
americans are too fat stupid and happy for civil war
The only people promoting it are israelites and yes Americans with guns would win considering Korea and everybody in the Middle East eventually BTFOed the country despite it's military prowess. You only lose when you refuse to fight but you're right that a civil war won't come but don't be surprised if ~~*bankers*~~ and other enemies of the state are arrested and no retaliation happens in their name..
Frick off israelite the military is loyal to the American people not ZoG.
I have not met one who will fight for israelite interests over their people's. Not Whites not black not brown. Your homosexuals might but they are a small minority and those are the type of officers who will fall first. You have bubba an article 15 for misgendering you? You're going to pay the piper.
They opening of a civil war will be a frag and sabotage fest in the military.
Military will kill people?
The cops won't even kill black people anymore sweetie.
kek
Imagine vaxxpuppets fighting for anything
>The cops won't even kill black people anymore sweetie.
Oh, imagine all that pent up energy waiting to be unleashed.
They won't even save children's lives.
Another plus for the government side is they can call in reinforcements for allied countries or anyone wanting a piece of americans... which there is plenty of
>Another plus for the government side is they can call in reinforcements for allied countries or anyone wanting a piece of americans... which there is plenty of
“All the armies of Europe with a Bonaparte as a commander, could not take a drink from the Ohio.”
Good luck with that.
All the african americans
All the south americans
The indian conscripts
People the government already like m9re then right leaning people.
Theyre younger, more ready to risk it all and theres way more of them then us.
Its something to think about how isolated our front would become and how sol we'd be with our supply chains bombed by goverment tech
Idk their tidal wave of numbers and supplies would be tough to overcome.
We would most likely end up on reservations
You are literally moronic.
Anyone that has come into this country recently will not fight for it. They'll go back home.
I mean really Mexican gangs may see it all as an opportunity to take back California for Mexico or some shit.
Look dude, the rotting away of national identity in English speaking nations has done nothing but make sure that everyone will be at each other's throats.
This. ~~*They'll*~~ just cut the power and water and wait for us to kill each other and pop back up after a couple years to rule whatever is left.
Check these myself /nupol/ is homosexual
People will live like the pioneers did, and refuse to allow israelites back in.
Yes, all the foreigners that went into America because they want money and comfort will certainly fight for the US government kek
You seen what all the foreigners did went shit started in Ukraine? They all left.
A moron from here that went to Ukraine to help them fight Russia gave an interview for a TV news show here, he got there, saw that it was a war and ran the hell out of there back. You are moronic, and it's morons like you that will make the war inevitable. Good luck pal.
>All the african americans
The Black folk are going to be busy looting, and when they're done with that they'll probably just fricking eat you.
>All the south americans
They'll be heading back to their respective shitholes like Speedy Gonzales. They're here for the welfare, not the warfare.
>The indian conscripts
The frick are you smoking?
>Its something to think about how isolated our front would become and how sol we'd be with our supply chains bombed by goverment tech
You do realize that Brandon has used up most of the strategic reserve fuels, and everything in the country is produced in red areas. There won't be fuel to fly jets or drones. They won't have personnel to fly them. The HUM-V's will largely sit with empty tanks on base, with nobody to man them. There won't be food in cities, or power, or water.
>All the african americans
Will stay and fight but are dumb as rocks
>All the south americans
A lot will likely fee to Mexico, but not all. Not to be underestimated .
>The indian conscripts
Their loyalty is to their money. The vast majority will leave.
The biggest obstacles are self hating whites.
africans (sub saharans, the blacks) only fight when they're sure they can win, otherwise they flee. against a trained military force of organized whites fighting as one, they'll suffer such extreme losses that there won't be any point to it when the alternative is free gibs, free housing, and refugee status that affords so many opportunities and resources.
there's' no foreign military power that loves Black folk. only the usa worships Black folk and has the military capacity to enable the Black person hordes to do what they do here. no one will come to a foreign land for the sake of Black folk, especially while Black folk burn down their homelands.
the chaos and violence has been going on too long, the next generations won't be fooled into supporting it or calling it virtuous and they'll hate their parents who did and subjected them to the consequences of it all.
>self hating whites
Self correcting problem, the non-Whites will kill then or abuse them until they either snap or desert.
Anyone that wants a piece will help the insurgents, moron.
And then Russian and China deliver supplies through Mexico to the Americans fighting the rogue state.
Then what?
its easier to claim that a civil war will happen rather then calling it a mass murder from the government on a civilization that doesn't have the same rights and fighting capability that the government would have. I extremely doubt a civil war wouldn't ultimately end the same way as it would if literally any country on earth tried to invade america. even if you got far youd just get nuked when there is no longer a true reason to save the land its on.
>A civil war would not be realistic because the US military
1. It would likely occur just like the first War Between The States. It would be led by disgruntled state representatives and politicians. Conservative states would band together and file articles of succession. When the fed tries to stop them, then it would hit the fan.
2. The US military is not equipped to fight this kind of war. They are geared for specialized missions with small strike forces. Right now there are more Black folk, women and homosexuals than actual fighters. If CW2 broke out, or WW3 for that matter, I'm afraid the military would collapse in a second.
The US military is equipped for bottom-receiving anal
Kek
US Army: Never Leave Your Buddy's Behind
It would be foolish for Russia and China to seek a policy, other than 'Balance of Power'.
Prevent either side from gaining a decisive victory, and keep the nation split, like Britain did with Western Europe until WWII.
>antifa body count
>vs
>C18 body count
but there will be civil unrest. the communists are great at damaging inanimate objects but the right excels in actual damage to human enemies.
wat dis
not going to call you "newbie" even though you probably are; alot of anons on this board haven't gone this deep into the rabbit hole.
Harold Covington helped create C18 as a security force for one of the far right Brit parties; they went on to work security for right wing concert events and eventually snowballed into a right wing version of antifa. Many songs glorifying C18 in the movement. They killed a pro immigration politician in Germany a few years ago - buried and memoryholed.
Combat 18 is lonewolf leaderless resistance and this scares the frick out of the glowBlack folk on this board
Just wait until the burgers are hungry.
My guy, the country is packed full of former military vets who can still fight and many of them do not like the way things are going.
You're not just dealing with edgeyboys and hicks that shoot deer and beer cans you are dealing with your own fricking trained and combat hardened crews.
And those people will join and help train the civilians to fight.
And let me tell you, the threats coming from our own president about how you can't fight the military is only making people angrier.
And another thing is this won't be like the first civil war where you have essentially two nations fighting each other. This will be small factions banded together under some common ideologies going door to door slaughtering those that they don't like. Want a hint on who those targets will be? Well they have blue checkmarks on their names for the most part.
And the shit of it is that it will be the left that starts this war.
Most vets are treated like shit. I am sure they would love to stick it to the government.
A dude killed a Biden voter woman who was his neighbor relatively recently, someone post the pic of the article. It would be like that but 100000000x worse.
k keep us posted
>2015
this is why obama purged the military leadership and by biden is purging the rank and file
Which means all those trained and capable people are now civilians, and their low IQ diversity hire vaxxed cattle are the new hires.
this is a good point
its no surprise we suddenly have airforce jets crashing every other day and navy ships and subs running aground or sinking entirely
similarly, police response to active shooter (Uvalde)
there is no vanguard esprit de corps in today's military or law enforcement units
it's all about the dental plan and GI bill, following orders, 'doing time', globohomosexual HR bingo safe spaces, virtue-signal appointments, and paychecks
final stage of civilization collapse
We're already in a civil.
Have been for decades.
People are only just now catching on.
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No onenin the military would shoot us. No whites at least
Your mother’s got AIDS
Its been ongoing anon.
Leafland would also collapse if we do as well.
The US military is completely reliant on foreign nations for their supplies. A civil war is very likely if globalization has an abrupt end. Why else do you think Congress is having a hissy fit, they can see it coming when they all become poor overnight when they can no longer take advantage of the buying power of the US dollar.
The momentary peace that we have today is because China is being "nice" right now (due to their own financial difficulties).
Shit ton of asians in the military now. China is trying to subvert it.
Cough Cough homosexual we have 140 million in numbers you have a small number of 4 million with defection which will break into 2.5 million by my estimates you homosexuals are fricked since day 1 all those tanks planes and bombs are gonna go halfway to us YOU homosexualS ARE GOING TO LOSE 1776 IS OPERATION YOU HEAR THAT WERE WINNING AND WERE TAKING OVER AND WERE OVERRIDING YOU'RE GLOBALISTS DOGSHIT SYSTEM I CAN HEAR THE PANIC IN YOUR TEXT homosexual. FOR THE BOYS OF 1776 RISE UP AMERICA THIS JULY 4TH IS OURS AND EVERYDAY WILL BE OURS FROM HERE ON FORWARD AND THE LANDS IN OUR BORDERS ARE OURS WILL WILL TAKE IT ALL BACK PEACEFULLY OR BY FRICKING FORCE IF WERE BACKED INTO A CORNER. 1776 GIVE US FRICKING LIBERTY OR GIVE US BLOODY FRICKING DEATH.
The US military is all vaccinated, silly. They will be ded soon.
>5d chess
These people are as dumb as they come.
Wut
The zogs that line up for the vaccine.
Only the smart ones didn't get the jab, they're pretty unhappy about being discharged too.
I'm sure it wouldn't take much convincing to get them to join the revolution
Oooh gee, yeah, like I’m afraid of being nuked yeah, while me and 59 of my friends take down Pantex. [snicker]
This thread is irrelevant unless you ask
Where does the military stand in all of this? I ask you
>A significant majority–between 55 and 70%–of the military would defect to the side of the citizens.
>At least 10% of the people who defect to the civilian side would not do so openly, and they would not abandon their posts.
Demoralization thread.
>File: 6256431260_d57d699e30_b.jpg
lel
Ya the left and right are all larping pussies you should do something about it, tonight and post where youre location and plan
The moment the US military turned such weapons inward is the moment they completely and fully lost. They lost control at that point. Also ask yourself this… how smart is it to nuke your own territory?
No one like you. Or your pets. You are scared and we can ask see it. I'm sorry your family is going to suffer horribly, but you chose this again and again
I will entertain this b8. You don’t realize how fragile things are. US power grids are by no means secure and they need it way more than we do. The collapse of the US government doesn’t even require a unified fighting force, just a series of motivated militias dedicated to making large swathes of the country ungovernable. Even in the event that “we” lose, the government surely loses as well.
>ungovernable
this is really key whenever 'muh civil war 2' comes up
though of course Jan 6th was a glow op the Russiagate-Style Miniseries surrounding it is indicative of how terrified the deep state ruling caste is of losing control (even in a minor/patchwork aspect)
also, for another tangential analogy, look at how willing the blue-urban-area governmental structures were 'willing' to cede power (in Seattle for example) to 'ungovernable' elements during summer-'o'-Floyd 2020
it doesn't take much to tip scales
no matter how many 'muh nukes' you claim to have in your quiver
> government could nuke an insurgency on home soil
> other countries in the world don't exist, and if they did they wouldn't care. They TOTALLY wouldn't try to save US citizens from an insane genocidal government.
Fricking moron.
The military can't afford to fuel those things if they kill the tax base after tanking the currency. You'd have to sell all that shit to afford to pay for hormone replacement for your troony army
You obviously don’t know very much about the military.
> The military will go to war with the people that watch their kids, run their grocery stores, know where they live, etc
Kek, OP are you moronic or just a shill? The people youre afraid of are literally your fricking neighbors you depend on. Military doesnt even make its own weapons. WTF is the military going to do when ammo manufactures, fuel suppliers, food suppliers, civilian defense contractors/engineers, etc walk off the job, or worse start working against the govt?
> US couldnt beat Vietnamese rice farmers
> US couldnt beat poppy farmers in Afghanistan
> But yeah the US could totally beat their own neighbors that have 4x the amount of guns and ammo than all the US military put together and all guns & ammo are already privately owned and privately stored.
US Civilians own the lions share of all small arms in the world and all soldiers, pilots, officers, etc have addresses outside bases. They shop at the same stores as civilians, they use the same car mechanics, the military is 100% reliant upon a peaceful civilian population. On top of that, the second a US Civil war goes hot, every other country will smell blood in the water, and the entire world will descend into war.
A civil war would divide the military. The generals would pick sides so some of the military would fight for one side and some for the other. Before the first US Civil War, the Confederate generals were Union generals. Same thing would happen here.
Aren't israelites something like 50% of all high ranks, but only less than 0.1% of all low rank soldiers? Kek
Sounds like a demoralization campaign.
>also NUKES
The fact anyone in the government would dare threaten the use of atomic weapons on American soil against American citizens for any reason is a major red flag. That's just fricked up
Frick glow Black folk
US military and law enforcement - 3,000,000
US guns - 400,000,000
Civil War 2 won't happen because the government would lose.
I remember my first time reading the turner diaries and believing it
lol sigh
>artillery, bombs, planes, a navy, and helicopters. Not to mention NUKES
and none of them have made any damn difference in any war the us lost in the last 20 years.......50 if we want to count vietnam
>US military
The militaries own war-games disprove your arguments. Half of soldiers would desert, bases would go completely dark, sub commanders would defy orders.
Also on top of that once the US starts committing atrocities against it's own Citizens NATO/UN/China/Russia would step in, it'd be prime-time balkanize the US. It's dumb to even entertain your bullshit
Just need two minuteman operator to think it might be better just to nuke Washington D.C. Or Tel Aviv
75% of the military is rightwing
Not like that matters, Pic related
Civil War can't happen due to UN7277.
>Not to mention NUKES
>start rebel cell in NY
>let the gobimnt nuke you
>problem schlomo?
Oh no, not the israeliteerinos in New York
>It doesn’t matter how many guns Americans have either. The military has artillery, bombs, planes, a navy, and helicopters. Not to mention NUKES.
The military wouldn't be on one side. Units would defect. Pilots would be less likely to bomb targets due to the increase terrorism threat. It would be a cluster frick of a civil war were sides are unclear. There would be multiple factions like most modern civil wars seen from now to the 00s. The complete destruction of the supply chain and terror attacks on infrastructure would cause food and water riots. The shear amount of problems would cause government forces to abandon large sections of the country. Most likely trying to keep DC area, Montana nuclear missile fields, NORAD headquarters, and a few other locations. Cities would crumble under different communist groups, gangs, and food riotors fighting each other once local police have fallen or retreated to protect local politicians like seen in BLM riots. Several police buildings and vehicles burned. Antifa and BLM would jump offices. Meanwhile in the rural and some suburbs right wing groups would start coordinating to defend their homes or going on the offensive. Things will domino until resources are depleted. Most likely Canada will also be in a civil war due to the collapse of cohesion. Nukes would be unlikely used unless the last President wants to deny any rebel factions major cities or resources. More likely the launch codes will be lost or destroyed during the civil war.
Biden's dementia already ate the nuclear codes by now kek
>deh guberment haz bomb and nuke. you can never win.
Does anyone have the screengrab of the anon already debunking this moron point? Nukes and bombs are for killing large amounts of people and leveling areas. The government wouldn't want to kill the people they want to rule over and who provide them food and labor.
>clamp on hard
nipple clamps? clit clamps?
Benis glambs :DDD
The only idiots that think a civil war would happen in the US are moronic rednecks and foreigners who don't understand the the US.
moronic rednecks have %50 of the world's guns. Including machine guns, grenade launchers, belt feds, and even rockets. Eat my redneck taint. The south will rise again
The shitlibs are acting like they're fighting a civil war. They're literally promoting show trials for their political opponents on every major network rn as the crowd warmer for the miderms. Have fun living with your head up your ass and acting confused when things just keep getting more and more civil warlike as they have been consistently for the last 6 years.
It is quite disturbing. Trump was already impeached for Jan 6… Its a fricken show trail.
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.--Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd!
it will 100% happen. states will reject federal overreach, there will be arrests, counter arrests, and then there will be massacres by the federal regime against state employees. that will reach a tipping point and eventually states will put a stop to it. the federal regime will say they're illegitimate, but they'll have no support of the people. the states will say the federal regime is illegitimate, and they'll have the support of their people because they'll be the ones dying and suffering from it. eventually alliances will form between states to keep the federal regime in check, there will be a lot of violence, assassinations, riots, etc, but ultimately the federal regime will fail and a few years into the point where people start openly calling it a civil war the states will bring in foreign allies to help them against the federal regime which, at that point, no one will consider valid or legitimate due to their wanton slaughter of the populace and inability to cover it up or propagandize to a war weary populace who've all been personally affected by the federal regime. at that point it'll be proxy wars, the union will dissolve in all but name, and the 50 states will probably balkanize and become a dozen or so, some of which will be vassals or directly ruled by foreign powers such as france.
>states will reject federal overreach
is that before, or after they are majority shitskins from the 3rd world with no care for american values?
in my opinion it will be after
france has force projection and foreign legions as well as a history of aiding foreign fighters against their governments. also, a large portion of the usa used to be france. you might not like the french, but your personal feelings don't negate the reality of france being a significant military power with the resources, experience, and motivation to get involved in the americas in the event of a civil war between states and the federal regime.
>in my opinion it will be after
my comment was a joke dude. how could it possibly be after, if the population of the state has now been replaced with loyal servants of the federal gibbs govt?
i know, but i think you actually made a good point even if you weren't serious and i do legitimately think it will be after. your viewpoint is driven by ideology. objectively speaking, those subhumans you speak of have no loyalty at all, especially to any government. a primary attribute is biting the hand that feeds. with that said, they'll be the ones suffering under the federal regime and it'll be the states that offer them relief from that. as always though it'll still be whites who will be doing the real fighting and even in that nightmare dystopia you describe, there will still be over 200mil whites in the usa. ratios are less meaningful when you get to large bulk numbers like that. a million white soldiers can wipe out tens of millions of nigs and hispanics if they set their minds to it. white strength is in conformity and that's what effective militaries aspire to. a group of competently trained white soldiers is uniquely a single unit not just in marches, but in combat as well.
>such as france
The moment you completely shit the bed
>memeflag
>sneed and feed randomly out of nowhere for no reason.
You're a glowBlack person federal agent and you put the "sneed and feed" copypasta meme on this thread to let your buddies know that they need to track this thread. Frick off.
Extremely low quality b8, most likely a slide thread. If you must comment, season and move on.
>implying you can't develop the same weapons, superior weapons, open new technology trees, or develop asymmetrical technology
low iq detected
Judging by the gopnik war, looks like the next wars will be a combination of everything from 1914 to now.
I hope to show the world new technology never seen before in the future. We are entering an era where a small minority of superior intelligence can have its way with anyone.
No, we're entering an era of global societal collapse. Energy runs out, populations die off and economies fail. The economy is where "da ebil billionaire class" gets their power anyway.
No economy = no power. It's that simple.
Yes
More like a neo-Bronze Age Collapse, several economies dependent on each other getting wrecked by logictic failure and warfare.
Yes, and euros better be prepared to stop a giant hungry African horde coming from the western coast, the Mediterranean sea and Nile river.
Europe is utterly fricked.
europe has been fricked since the british empire fell. the british empire was the only reason for europes drastic progression. if it wasn't for germany doing world war 1 and 2 europe would have remained white smart and prosperous
israelites did those wars, not Germany.
It's not over until you are dead, even then it might not be over.
Don't give up
Good point.
imo the sudanese dam being built to water blockade north africa will probably play a large role in that mass Black person horde.
furthermore, there's a tunnel being built, it's a gateway into the most important european areas and is definitely intended to be used by that Black person hoarde.
you can look it up and watch the satanic rituals the creators of the tunnel had as a celebration of it being built. i mean literally, here's a picture from it.
it's called the gotthard base tunnel.
If enough infrastructure gets destroyed we might be going back to the old ways, then again at least they can't tap and geolocate us.
All I saw on recent ones were Asians.
Former zogbot here. The functional combat arm of the military would leave, all that would be left is Black folk, trannies and women. On top of that, urban combat is a hellscape and there isn't enough people in our military even if everyone stayed and fought. You were never in, you dont know anyone who has served and you are a giant gay. Kys
>I have everything figured out
Oh do you?
Well you haven’t considered divine intervention.
Not all of the country has the terrible karma of some segments of it. Not all states can or will share equally in God’s judgement of the US. Therefore the US will have to divide.
Yeah you don't think they'd just let us take power back did you?
There will never be a civil war as long as Netflix is still streaming and McDonald’s is still pumping out burgers. In other words, people are FAR too comfortable to do anything.
right but the new inflation report tells us that golden road isn't going to continue forever
global economics is about to hit the fan
You been to a supermarket outside the beltway lately, agent? People make chit chat with the cashiers about how much they’d like to see you all hang. Its a dangerous and stupid game you’re playing—and you’re just a pawn in it. Best of luck! It’s never too late to turn to the light of Christ’s love
...because you were never countrymen.
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>Not to mention NUKES.
There is something called appropriate escalation of force, and nukes are pretty much the maximum amount of force. Nukes have this horrible tendency to have a pretty wide area of effect, which makes it hard to hit precision targets. That is great and useful if your target is like 20 miles away from the nearest powerline, but makes them useless in a Civil War situation, where many of the insurgents will be operating near or even within civilian and civilian structures. They launch just a single nuke, and not only will a good portion of the loyal military turn against them, so will an even larger portion of the civilians, and not to mention pretty much any and every country in the world. Some countries dont even give a shit about the innocent lives lost, they are just looking for ANY reason to harm America, and the response to a nuke is a very appropriate way to make themselves look like the good guy for hating America.
When the US launches a nuke on its own population, they have already lost the Civil War and are just trying to go Scorched Earth out of spite. Democrats are not going to like sacrificing 200k other Democrats to kill 300 Republicans. They will suddenly go, "I was ok when they were detaining r/Conservative members, but now that they're blowing up r/PoliticalHumor members, maybe they werent the good guys all along."
What is really hilarious, out of everything, is that you seem to legit think Nukes are a player in the game. It is a weapon of last resort, and even then is the result of the dying gasp of the regime.
Planes and tanks have to refuel, fuel has to be transported, Soldiers have civilian families. Pressure points can be exploited.
Yes
Why fight a tank when there are soft targets?
this logic is poo
resistance is a universal law. it will always happen because opposing forces always exist
Honestly I think the biggest thing holding something like this back is the lack of an agenda on the right. The right can generally agree on hating leftists, but I'd say only 10 percent of right wingers in the US are actual ideologues with the rest being moderate (i.e. I'd let my daughter marry a Black person so long as he was a good guy)
If there was an actual political movement to rally around then you could have potential for something. That's why the feds infiltrate almost every political movement the right makes, since they know their best bet is to snub it out while it's small. People are willing to die for ideas, but most people aren't smart enough to think of those ideas on their own, so it takes a leader and a movement to show them those ideas and what can be done about them.