> smallest snubby on the market
> steel frame for better recoil control
> s-tier build quality, will last forever
> peak aesthetics
It may be the best CCW gun ever made.
>old lmao
Is there any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
Chiefs Special
No
The OP pic's grip is actually a modification. The standard grip is even smaller.
I have plucked your bait from the line and I am feasting. What are you going to do about it?
>Is there any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
Expensive for what they are. They have a great fit and finish but I'd rather get a Charter Arms and maybe even a Taurus if I was desperate and really wanted to CC a snubnose. I only got mine for movie memorabilia. The snub nose revolver and the Bersa Thunder .380 are my favorite deep concealment handguns
They come in square butt (OP pic) and round butt (your pic) frames. Round frames are the most desirable. Idk when the change was made because there is no dash in the 36 / 60 series of Smiths
>Is there any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
Bad sights and I prefer Ruger takedown over sideplate takedown
>bad sights
homie it’s a snub nose revolver. What did you expect?
Better sights. There is literally no technical reason preventing these guns from having better sights and many similar models do.
Literally none besides the Kimber K6S have adjustable sights. Cobras don't even have good sights
Cope. I don't mean most small-frame revolver sights are ~relatively~ bad, I mean they're fricking objectively bad. Those shitty gutter and ramp sight setups are from an era when most handgun sights were complete crap, manufacturers didn't have to do much to compete in that category. Apparently for revolvers they still don't because boomers and you morons keep buying revolvers with shitty sights. Pic related is a nice set of sights on a snub nose revolver. All it took was a fricking rear dovetail.
Bro, the sp101 is frickhuge compared to a j frame. Comparing dissimilar firearms is disingenuous.
No.
>NOOOO MUH 5/100" WIDER AND 2/10" TALLER
>conveniently ignoring the fact that it’s an inch longer and 6.5 ounces heavier
J frames are small enough that they can be conveniently pocket carried. Pocket carrying a 7.2 inch long 26 ounce gun isn’t very convenient. You also wouldn’t want large, adjustable sights on a pocket gun.
Read the fricking file name dipshit.
For god's sake, cut the barrel and recrown if you want them equal length.
Weight is beneficial.
Had that exact model
It had cylinder lock
Bought it specifically for it's reputation, was sorely disappointed
Adjustable sights are pretty nice for dialing it in for the carry load.
>many similar models do.
Such as? The only snubby I had with a good front sight was my LCR, and it was aftermarket.
>bad sights
Snubnose sights are ceatigial. Kids these days need to learn about point shooting
*vestigial
>elbow slightly flexed but locked
… how do you lock your elbow without it being straight? I can understand clenching it against your torso but locking it at an angle? The frick?
I suppose whoever made it meant to tense your muscles to stop your elbow joint from moving. If I hold my arm at that angle I can kind of "lock" it in place, so I figure that's what's meant.
you don't look too bad, have another (you)
Saint Bernie Goetz, pray for us.
oh look its the point shooing advocate who never posts any sort of groupings or footage of his point shooting prowess.
>he can't put 5 shots on target at self-defense distances with classic snubby sights
You objectively need to git gud.
It can be done without sights at all but why settle for that?
I posted a J-Frame for you as well:
>It can be done without sights at all but why settle for that?
Classic snubby sights allow for a smoother draw, and the marginally worse sight picture is irrelevant in a situation where you will be instinctively point shooting anyway.
Not really. If you had a frickhuge adjustable rear sight with a ledge then yeah it could snag, but the examples I posted don't snag at all. My SP101's rear sight does not snag or draw any more awkwardly than a revolver with a gutter site. I also refute anyone's claim about any defensive firearm that they will "just be point shooting" or "don't really need to aim".
I carry a revolver and I do not consider the grip or draw to be positive points. The few positives that revolvers have have nothing to do with drawing and shooting them. Autoloaders beat them out in most cases there.
>The few positives that revolvers have have nothing to do with drawing and shooting them.
Do people really not realize that revolvers have a better draw?
I disagree with you that revolvers are easier to draw and I've carried both them and semi-autos.
>guise look i can get all 5 shots on this poster-sized target at 7 yards!
im also implying you have actually gone shooting too.
>Bad sights
As far as I can tell the sights look practically identical to the ones on the Ruger LCR.
Stock base model LCR sights are also bad
Revolvers have been obsolete since the 1940's when someone with half a brain actually did some ccw and found out that the person that shoots first and gets the most rounds off during an engagment typically wins and a gun with limited capacity like a revolver is not an ideal choice at doing that.
It's a great ccw gun if you plan on never using it and just larp.
Weak bait 2/10
Seeing as you have not tried to counter any arguements I put forth I can safely assume you have none.
I gave you one. I don’t want to carry that kind of set up to go to the grocery store in my lilly white country town to go get some milk. It’s moronic. Your superior firepower fantasies don’t align with actual statistical data regarding civilian defensive handgun use.
Tell me all about your 9mm striker fired weapon system complete with optic, light mount, three magazines and threaded barrel (although you’re still waiting on mommy gubment for your suppressor after asking pretty please) that you carry to go buy milk.
>the person that shoots first and gets the most rounds off during an engagment typically wins
>confirmation bias
Those who get the first shot off tend not to be hit first, therefore they get to keep shooting while their target commences bleeding instead of shooting. I also think your lying.
>Revolvers
> obsolete
No. moron.
A revolver was good enough for bernie goetz.
t. NutNFancy
As usual those who can’t get good cite the meta that “capacity and whoever shoots first wins”. Pretty sure the mass acceptance of wonder 9’s is what heralded the death of proper accuracy that was a hallmark of the revolver dominated era.
>the mass acceptance of accurate, reliable, fast shooting, high capacity handguns heralded the death of revolvers
Yes. Anyone that can shoot a revolver quickly and accurately can shoot a semi-auto even more quickly and even more accurately.
Revolvers are inherently more accurate than semis. If anyone shoots a semi better it's strictly a skill issue.
>Revolvers are inherently more accurate than semis.
Mechanical accuracy? Yes, you're correct. Practical accuracy while shooting off-hand? No, definitely not. I find myself on both sides of this. I carry a revolver and think it's adequate for civilian concealed carry but I'm just tired of all the bullshit and lying. Be more like this guy
instead of cope posting. Revolvers are worse in almost every way and yet are still adequate. I like them because they're a very safe gun to carry appendix or in your pocket and I find that they conceal very easily, and that's enough of a reason for me. I don't have to make anything else up or lie to justify it.
Mechanically revolvers are more accurate, but most people carry snubnoses if they're carrying a revolver at all. Because of the long heavy triggers, cramped grips, small sights, and short sight radius, sbubnoses are pretty difficult to master and take a lot of practice to shoot profficiently. Definitely a big skill gap between getting good with a snub and a sub compact autoloader. That said, I've found it very fun and rewarding to spend a bunch of time and ammo practicing with my snubnose to get profficient with it
Spoken like someone who thinks that shooting 15 rounds in the general direction of the problem is a better option than hitting with 1 properly aimed round because they don’t have the time to learn how to properly shoot.
are you fricking moronic bro?
any revolver you can fan the hammer on can be shot faster than a semi-auto.
Granted its mainly in a short burst, but christ what a dumbfrick you are.
>Is there any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
It's 5 shot instead of 6 shot. I don't think the extra 1 round of capacity matters in any practical sense, I'm just firmly of the opinion that all revolvers should be six-shooters
Now give us the QRD on concealability & weight & size for the smallest 6 shooter vs. the typical 5 shooter. Or, even the smallest 5 shooters.
Because, if you don't mind conceal carrying a 4 lb. chunk of metal that's as easy to conceal as an iron grapefruit, then all revolvers should be 8 or 9 shooters.
See you're talking about practicality and performance. I'm talking about a blind adherance to tradition. You'd know if you were a knower
a .327 LCR is only 17oz and smol
RUSTS
Get a stainless model 60 instead if you want DASA. Or better yet just get a 642/442 and skip the exposed hammer entirely, single action is dumb on a J frame. Also if your DASA J Frame doesn't have a hammer nose firing pin basically it's gay and you are moronic. Hammer nose is superior
>RUSTS
If you get a modern-day Model 36 and take decent care of it rust shouldn't even be an issue. Hell, there are decades-old semi-neglected ones still being used today that shoot flawlessly after tens of thousands of rounds.
It's carbon steel. Stainless can't be blued. It will rust and tarnish as the blueing decays/gets rubbed off. I agree it's not really a serious issue but if you carry it in your pants for enough days or leave it in the car/garage overnight too many times it will
>Not wanting a unique patina on your gun
>any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
.38 Spl is pretty anemic. It's still a solid, classic wheelgat. But I'm addressing your question directly, and "any reason" includes a vast spectrum of reasons. If I'm carrying a 5- or 6-shot revolver, it's .357 or more. Otherwise, I can get a 9mm p+ 7-shot semi-auto with #8 in the chamber, and it will spit out Just A Real Bad Day at anyone who is fricking with me ... every bit as hard as .38.
I'll grant, .38 Spl p+ would go a long way toward making a small wheelgat more appetizing than Plain Jane .38.
2 small 4 my hands
that doesn't stop you from jerking off so
so true
>holds less bullets
>slower to reload
why not carry a pistol instead ?
Why not carry a gun?
this.
revolvertads are stupid
>t. Larpers
>posts a picture of a professional troonyloving larper shill
>t. Larpers
>posts a picture of a professional troonyloving larper shill
NTA but that seems to be the point
>jams in your path
instead of a pistol a firearm might be a better idea
I don't know when zoomers became infatuated with revolvers but they've made it embarrassing to own them. Thanks you homosexuals.
>projection
No, no, he’s right
>zoomers became infatuated with revolvers
Did this really happen? Is it because revolvers are just better looking?
I’m an ‘03 zoomie and I just like them. They’re cool
They are, get a new Python so I can pretend I have one vicariously through you.
I will someday 🙂
1998 here and my one and only gun is a .38 snubnose because it's cool. But I'm a boomer at heart so I don't assume my tastes will be at all representative of other people my age.
This. The likelihood of me ever even needing to fire in self defense is already low. The likelihood that that self defense encounter will require more than 5 shots is also astronomically low, so in the end how much I like the gun is really the deciding factor.
Zoomers hardly know enough about guns to call anything out, honestly. At least the ones I know.
Yeah, I don't own one, only striker fired shit, but revolvers are good enough for 99% of all self defense encounters and just look so much cooler.
Looking cool and liking your gun matters as long as it means you're more motivated to actually use them.
Have you ever been called out by a zoomer for having a classic gun? How did you handle it?
Called out as in it’s a good thing or bad thing? Zoomers appreciating classic firearms seems like a good thing
Called out as in bad thing.
On that note it's nice to see the next generation develop an appreciation for classic. If you're a zoomer and you're reading this, just ignore revolver-haters in general. They don't even own guns.
You are correct, I am a zoomer. Revolvers and lever actions are the funnest guns I’ve shot. At the end of the day, I enjoy the guns I like and don’t really worry about the arguments people always have over them
LMAO at all the revolver cope itt. You gays want to be quirky/different so much you intentionally handicap yourselves with an obsolete tool. You contrarian homosexuals probably agreed with Biden when he said you just need a double barrel shotgun.
>You contrarian homosexuals probably agreed with Biden when he said you just need a double barrel shotgun.
It's unironically good enough, but there should be no restrictions on bearable arms.
LARPing gays get sold a doomsday scenario where they’re suddenly the main character of a drug cartel firefight or a complete Somalia tier breakdown of society and then project their insecurities on people who aren’t paranoid consumerists. I literally do not need anything more than a snub nose revolver for concealed carrying where I am. That doesn’t mean others don’t need more. That doesn’t mean others shouldn’t be able to own whatever the frick they want. But people get so detached from reality thanks to YouTube fantasy land where they beat off to other men pretending to run and gun. Any gun is better than no gun and what you carry should be dictated by the realities of your lifestyle, your training background, and your budget.
Utterly based and reality-driven take.
All I NEED to do is make the transaction for the scumball that wants my property or my life fatal for HIM, (and maybe one or two accomplices).
Why would you not carry something in the same form factor as a snub nose with more than double the capacity? They’re usually cheaper as well. You can just admit you want to be the contrarian quirky guy and move on.
see
I switched to a snub nose after using autos for concealed carry for years. the draw is much, much better; the grip seems to just fall into my hand.
>The grip seems to just fall into my hand
That's one way to explain the appeal of revolvers. They're just easier to shoot well for me. At the range with a perfect grip, I'll shoot faster with a semi auto, but I have to concentrate on it more and I'll turn to shit if I start pushing myself. The revolver is more consistent, where it's much harder to get a bad grip off the draw, and even if I did, it wouldn't affect my shooting as much as it would with a semi auto. Pushing myself faster with a revolver also doesn't turn out as bad as it is with a semi auto. It's hard to say why, but I think it's because of the fixed sights, it's harder to jerk a DA trigger, and grip options allow me to equip my gun with highly personalized grips.
Why would I spend more money on a tool that I don’t need? You’re also suggesting I ONLY carry a revolver and it’s my ONLY handgun. I never said that. What I said is that for where I live and my day to day life a revolver is perfectly acceptable. When I lived in Savannah, GA I carried my Glock 19 and I also had a P32 for a back up. Different situation. Different reality. Different tools. Different carry.
Maybe if it was 20-30 years ago, snubbies are pointless with guns like the P365, Hellcat, etc., same form factor with double the capacity.
God, bizarro fudds are just as insufferable as regular fudds
>People should only carry high capacity, high speed low drag tactical gear.
>Anything that remotely resembles a cowboy gun shouldn't even exist in the current year
>carrying a 5rd snubbie? It might as well be a rape whistle
>Black folk could be here...
With a Glock, you can shoot anyone you want
The wind felt good on the exposed PALS webbing of his plate carrier.
Until it jams because you didn't hold it tight enough while fighting off some Black person with a knife.
>high speed low drag tactical gear.
so what you're saying is you're a stereotypical PrepHole contrarian who is mad that guns are popular now and are desperately trying to distance yourself from the 'tactical' crowd?
>trying to distance yourself from the 'tactical' crowd?
i do this because tacticalgays are the new weebs. just a bunch of edgelords that constantly LARP through impossible scenarios that will literally never happen.
meanwhile, I'm just a regular dude cruising around town living my life. my preferred self defense tools do not define my personality, unlike the tacticalgays. I have my ccw permit, I have my gun when I want it, and I have plenty of other interests & hobbies. If that makes me a contrarian, then I don't really give a shit. Get some friends, loser.
You act like everyone who uses an autoloader is a tacticool homosexual walking around looking like this all the time and are unusually assmad and aggressive about it. You come off as a massive fricking hipster.
Thats a Hank Hill ass if I ever saw one.
>You come off as a massive fricking hipster.
seethe more, malding cuck. I'll be busy hanging out with my friends, enjoying our shared hobbies.
I vote to convict.
You dress like that and carry all that iron, you’re sending A Message.
So I’m sending A Message BACK.
Lube up and stretch that “Hank Hill”ass and use your time on bail to have all your teeth removed to save you the pain of having your Cellies do it to you as they turn your mouth into a pussy.
This kind of thing is just BEGGING for trouble.
Carrying a stock microcompact handgun is high speed low drag these days?
To be fair they're usually in packs like the animals they are
>contrarian
You're the only pissing and shidding himself because revolvers still exist.
>Is there any real reason not to get a S&W Model 36?
yes because you can buy a used picrel
After hundreds of hours in project zomboid I can conclude that the model 36 is better than a 9mm pistol.
one extra round and the Seecamp fits in the pocket of my swimming trunks.
beddy cool to be able to carry on the beach.
the seecamp also only chambers HP 32spc which is guaranteed not to expand
acp*
>only chambers HP 32spc
Its a 380.
>guaranteed not to expand
Having a pistol when I need one and having it go popoopopopopoppop is what counts.
What is that on the left, some kinda space gun from NASA?
S&W CSX
10-12+1 rounds of 9mm
Single action
Or just get a Shield Plus
Revolvers are sexy but not practical, not even slightly. That's fine though, carry whatever is cool and works.
>Revolvers are sexy but not practical, not even slightly
It shoots straight and is easily concealable. Seems pretty practical to me, but I'm not gonna shit on you for carrying on with a john wick - inspired hero larp fantasy where every self defense situation is gonna be against 5 armored opponents each carrying 30 round stendos
Well I'm not a tacticooltard either, I just am not delusional enough to think guns from 150 years ago are as practical as modern guns.
DA snubbie aren’t THAT old, but think of it this way:
It’s a design that has been refined and improved upon for 75 years, (since the introduction of the Chief and the Dick Specials.).
That we’re still carried by millions every day is a testament to the soundness of theor design and execution.
Would you balk at using a hammer that was 150 years old?
I'm not balking. I don't understand how revolver hipsters cannot grasp that revolvers are less practical than autoloaders. This does not mean they are useless, or that you can't or shouldn't carry them. It's just fact. They do work and look cool. I'm not insulting you or revolvergays, you gays are just soft as frick taking literal facts as attacks and it's getting annoying.
A better analogy would be would you rather use a hammer, or a far more advanced hammer that has modern epoxy and metallurgy to hammer nails twice as fast while weighing less? Both hammers work, but one is objectively better.
I've never had a hammer of any kind fail to feed or fail to extract.
>it's old therefore it's bad
Instead you should be thinking
>it's old and still deliberately used therefore it's good
Deliberately used by contrarian neofudds like yourself and boomers. Let me know when any professional military/LEO agency in the first world is using revolvers.
>inb4 GIGN
Literally just a status symbol for officers, none of them are actually using it.
>Let me know when any professional military/LEO agency in the first world is using revolvers.
service pistols and CCWs do not have the same requirements, anon.
Who would police be shooting at with said service pistol? Almost as if it’d be the exact same people you’d be shooting at in a defensive CCW use.
Plenty of micro-compact 9s out there better suited for the role. Most people aren’t in rural areas.
Why would I buy another gun when the one I use is absolutely acceptable for the role I use it in? I already have one.
police shootings and defensive handgun shootings are completely different. This statement is backed up by statistics. The role of a concealed handgun is to ward off attackers, not to press a suspect on their own terms and conduct an arrest.
What's more, some of the most popular backup handguns among police - that is, small defensive firearms tucked away under a vest or in a pocket, i.e. firearms in the exact use case of a CCW - are S&W 642s and other snub-nosed revolvers, today.
Sold more Hellcats/P365s for backup guns to officers than revolvers. Still shooting at the same people, I’d rather carry a gun the exact same size with double the capacity than be stuck in my neofudd ways purposefully handicapping myself to be different.
again, it's not a handicap, as repeatedly explained:
revolvers have characteristics which make them excellent pistols in defensive use cases. "ten rounds and easy reloads" is irrelevant in the context of a defensive shooting because defensive shootings *overwhelmingly* see only 1-3 rounds fired.
I didn’t realize going to the feed store was one of the duty requirements of a professional soldier/law enforcement agent.
>Let me know when any professional military/LEO agency in the first world is using revolvers.
NTA but why should that matter? The mission of military/LEO and the mission of a citizen carrying concealed are completely different. And even if you want to play the "military/LEO" game, most all first world militaries/LE agencies have issued revolvers in the past, since at the time they were more than effective firearms for their missions. People didn't suddenly become impervious to revolver fire the moment the NYPD started issuing Glocks.
>>inb4 GIGN
>Literally just a status symbol for officers, none of them are actually using it.
It hasn't always been like that. They were issued and used to great success.
and I say all of this as someone who edcs a subcompact 9 lol
>Let me know when any professional military/LEO agency in the first world is using revolvers
I'm not a professional military or law enforcement officer, my civillian daily concealed carry is not a duty pistol, it doesn't have the same requirements as a duty pistol. I'm not concerned about getting taken out by an armed& armored group hellbent on lilling or capturing me because that's a fantasy. I'm cocerned about two perhaps 3 double digit IQ opportunistic criminals trying to hit an easy lick. Revolver will always be satisfactory for civillian carry
Why do you assume .38 or .357 is going to drop someone in 1-2 rounds? Police are going to be shooting at the same criminals who would be robbing you, why not have 11-13 rounds in the same size as a j-frame?
Because I go to the range every week, I shoot more in a month than 80% of this board shoots in a year. I practice constantly with my revolver; if I ever have to use it I'm beyond confident that 2 rounds of .38spl are going directly into somebody's sternum. Good luck functioning after that
>why not this why not that why not why why why
Because I like my revolver, I shoot it very accurately, and it's very comfortable. Simple as
I don't carry a speed strip or any reload. Never gonna need a reload in an actual self defense scenario, because this is the real world we live in & not a John Wick fantasy. The speed strips are purely for range trips
You realize people aren’t static range targets or moving in a set pattern, right? There’s about a quarter second between your brain telling you to pull the trigger and you actually pulling the trigger, plenty of time for someone already moving to put you off your mark. I’m glad you have that much confidence in yourself though anon.
So… you shouldn't practice shooting? Got it
If that’s what you got from that statement I can see why you carry a revolver.
You're 19
>taurus 605
>wooden grip
>hornday ftx
Incredibly based, fellow Taurus gay
I’d pay money to see you trying to reload that piece of shit with the speed strip in an actual self defense scenario.
>guns from 150 years ago
You know autopistols are from 125 years ago, right?
>Revolvers are sexy but not practical,
revolvers are very practical for daily carry
>grip sits above the waistline = superior draw characteristics
>cannot be put out of battery while pressing against something
>not chambering and unchambering the same ammunition every day
>no chamber state to worry about
>dud primer? just pull the trigger again
>design of bullets not limited by the angle of a feed ramp
none of that makes up for the poor capacity and slow reloads.
it does. a reliable draw, the ability to reliably fire from the pocket, and the ability to fire with the muzzle pressed against a target are much, much more valuable than round count. Virtually no defensive shootings involve more than 2-3 rounds fired and the idea that you will reload during defensive use of a handgun is larper fantasy.
>poor capacity
Never gonna need more than 6. Bernie did it with 5
>poor capacity
same old dipshit argument. just learn to place your shots well, and you'll realize 5 shots is all you really need.
try the Mozambique: it's literally a 3 shot drill. A 6 shot pistol like my S&W 629 can run it twice, but why would I need to? if I correctly did what I have trained to do, then 3 shots will have ended the threat altogether. So I just reholster and move on with my life.
>third guy kills you
nah, those cowards always run as soon as they find out you're armed. being a hard target is a great way to avoid trouble.
If the third guy is still sticking around to fight back after you Mozambique the other two, you're likely dead regardless of how much ammo you have. An above-average Joe will probably have a 1.25-1.5 second draw off the reaction combined with .25-.3 second splits in a real shooting. So you're looking at 2.75-3.3 seconds of not shooting at Guy #3 that he's going to be spending trying to shoot at you. Yes, you might get lucky in this impossibly rare scenario and Guy #3 is Slow Draw McGraw and you could use more than 6 shots, but realistically there are only so many determined attackers a person can defend themselves against.
>in this impossibly rare scenario
yeah, it's definitely a larp. but if you were faced with 3 attackers, Mozambique would be a bad choice. Bill Drill would be the best way to empty the cylinder at 3 attackers. Then reloading from cover or as you retreat would be pretty easy.
I know I'll never be as good as Jerry, but he's demonstrated time and again that revolvers are still absolutely relevant for defensive shooting.
Jerry carries a semi-auto
>Jerry carries a semi-auto
No he doesn't.
Yes, he carries an M&P
With any handgun, if I was ever facing 3 or more attackers, I would go for one shot on each before putting multiple rounds on a single person. I would bet on the odds of a psychological stop or a lucky one shot stop over all that time letting Guy #3 draw and fire without getting shot at.
“Boardinghouse Rules”
Everyone gets a 1st serving, and then we see who wants Seconds…
>I just reholster and move on with my life.
You mean get arrested have your weapon stolen from you by law enforcement and navigate the the absolute state of the American judicial system and court fees?
>You mean get arrested have your weapon stolen from you by law enforcement and navigate the the absolute state of the American judicial system and court fees?
No. Re-read my post and work on your reading comprehension, homosexual.
>try the Mozambique: it's literally a 3 shot drill. A 6 shot pistol like my S&W 629 can run it twice, but why would I need to? if I correctly did what I have trained to do, then 3 shots will have ended the threat altogether.
Yeah, because every bad guy dies by being shot exactly once, no attacker has ever needed to be shot multiple times. Besides you've got perfect aim, you've only ever gotten perfect scores every time you compete, train, or practice drills. (Obvious sarcasm)
>you've only ever gotten perfect scores every time you compete, train, or practice drills
to be fair, if both sets are empty...
>Mozambique: shooting a man size target twice in the torso and once in the head
>sperging out about people not dying from 1 shot
that was a very cute way for you to tell us you're literally no guns with no fricking clue what you're talking about. kys.
>try the Mozambique:
>my S&W 629 can run it twice, but why would I need to?
>if I correctly did what I have trained to do, then 3 shots will have ended the threat altogether.
you sound like a complete fricking homosexual
These aren't exactly right either.
>>grip sits above the waistline = superior draw characteristics
How is that different from a semi-auto? You can make a good argument that they can conceal better because of the shape and size of the grip, but the grip is more awkward than a semi-auto for drawing and shooting.
be put out of battery while pressing against something
True, and this is an advantage. However, a weapon light on a semi-auto can function as a stand-off device.
>>not chambering and unchambering the same ammunition every day
Nice feature but it's not very prohibitive to just fire off the top round at the range every so often and replace it.
>>no chamber state to worry about
Yes, I do like them for this for new shooters, but then again the triggers, grips, and most small revolver sights are terrible for new shooters. Experienced shooters shouldn't have a problem with checking the chamber.
>>dud primer? just pull the trigger again
A 1-in-10000 round occurrence with quality defensive ammo.
of bullets not limited by the angle of a feed ramp
It's not 1911 anymore, most semi-auto options have proper feed ramps.
A lot of anti-revolver people really don't understand how much better a revolver's grip is for a CCW situation. The easier and smoother draw can be the difference between life and death.
>The easier and smoother draw can be the difference between life and death.
If you suck at drawing autoloading pistols, maybe. Lol. This only has merit with unoptimal or backup carry options like ankle / pocket carry.
There is a big difference between relaxed range training and the adrenaline rush of a self-defense scenario. It may seem inconsequential sitting behind a computer screen, but in the heat of the moment you'll really appreciate the easy and smooth draw of a classic snubby. You are the moron.
you've never even shot on a timer, i shot uspsa. i almost certainly know more about drawing and shooting under pressure than you do.
>There is a big difference between relaxed range training and the adrenaline rush of a self-defense scenario
No shit.
>but in the heat of the moment you'll really appreciate the easy and smooth draw of a classic snubby
Have you ever been in this situation? Where did you draw it from? How is a tiny ass grip supposed to be better than the grip of a compact-sized auto pistol?
>You are the moron.
Not enough of a moron to carry a snub-nose as primary carry. You do you, I guess...
Please watch this video from Lucky Gunner about the advantages of snub-nosed revolvers vs. autoloaders. He does a very good breakdown.
>hurr durr I know more than him
Stop larping and educate yourself.
Okay, I watched it. I didn't learn anything because I'm not nogunz and I own and have used many of both. I already know what he covered in the video. I don't pocket carry pistols (unless it is a very rare and niche situation), so the argument of pocket pistols vs snubs means nothing to me because I carry from subcompact up to full size. I don't need to deep conceal because I don't go to places that require me to (nogunz zones). I'm not new to this shit nor am I moronic enough to depend on a snub-nose for primary carry when I can carry an auto pistol. I understand that preferences exist but the fact remains that one is objectively better than the other. Semi autos are better than revolvers. I am not a nogunz like you who needs youtube videos to find out what is personally comfortable or beneficial for me.
>tummy and navel exposed
Vghhh
shut up moron, you probably don't even practice holster work at the range.
I do own one, it's nice
I'll never understand why revolver people act like it's the 1970s and the only good semiauto pistol option is 1911 and every other semiauto is a POS jam-o-matic. It's like they are either uneducated or nogunz (or both). You guys are not main characters. You will lose to a Black person with a Glock 17 because he has better continuity of fire, better sights, and doesn't take 7 seconds to reload.
>implying I’d choose to live in a place where that’s a possibility
You gays would be shocked how wonderful homogenous, high trust societies are. There have been two crimes this year in my community. One domestic violence call and one shoplifting call at the grocery store. A snub nose fine for carrying here.
>You will lose to a Black person with a Glock 17 because he has better continuity of fire, better sights, and doesn't take 7 seconds to reload.
I'll believe it when I see it.
This.
The average urban black man has no training, and has no conception of how to properly use a firearm.
You might be very unpleasantly surprised.
Using a handgun effectively isn’t Rocket Surgery, and in fact too much training, or of the wrong kind, can actually diminish your combat effectiveness.
About the only guarantee you MIGHT be able count on is you having the element of surprise.
The predators look for those that appear unarmed and weak. You’re a shmoe…that’s WHY you are an intended crime victim.
As soon as he makes his move, you get to surprise him by making yours. Make it count.
Sorry, but no. There is endless footage of black guys shooting handguns with poor stance, grip, accuracy, discipline etc. It's obvious that a lot of these guys learn what they know about guns from hip-hop videos and movies.
Match that against the average white shooter who actually educates himself and trains- and who may have a background in the military, law enforcement or hunting.
>There is endless footage of black guys shooting handguns with poor stance, grip, accuracy, discipline etc.<
Jesus man READ YOURSELF:
-poor stance
-poor grip
-poor accuracy
-poor discipline
You sound like an instructor in a classroom. You’re discussing FORM.
Frick FORM. This is about FUNCTION.
The guy that does everything “wrong”, but still manages to kill this oppo wins over the guy that does everything “right” but is killed by HIS oppo.
Please key on the term Inused before:
“Combat EFFECTIVENESS”.
It’s like aviation: “Any landing you all walk away from was a good one”.
>It’s like aviation: “Any landing you all walk away from was a good one”.
They said that back in the 40's, we've advanced.
Your making the same argument as "if you buy a race car you'll be just as good a driver as pro race car drivers"
No, you won't. Practice and fundamentals always matter
They STILL say that, anon.
And no, we haven’t advanced.
In the 1940s, criminals, (which included homosexuals), served long prison sentences in the House of Pain, the Insane, (including drug addicts), were committed to asylums, and lynching of Uppity Black folks was A Thing.
A Hobo caught shitting or pissing on a city street wold be cuffed, taken into an alley, and given a vigorous session of Nightstick Therapy by the Boys in Blue.
Not sure if trolling, but this is the typical attitude that gets a lot of incompetent black dudes killed. A whole lot of bravado and hot air about how tough they are, and then they try to take on a white guy with actual preparedness and get clapped.
Really?
Who is it doing the murdering in the United States.
Black people…mostly Black MEN, so I think they have at least more a nodding acquaintance with the subject than you suspect they do.
I mean it isn’t ALL cops filling body bags, is it?
>The guy that does everything “wrong”, but still manages to kill this oppo wins over the guy that does everything “right” but is killed by HIS oppo.
cope
>This user is underage.
I would unironically recommend a revolver with low recoil loadings in 327, 22lr (like the SW 43C) or a J frame over any semi auto for a woman. Consider for a moment that 99.99% of women:
>have child-like hand and arm strength >no mechanical aptitude whatsoever
>wont carry something big
>panic at loud noises
>zero interest in firearms
>never train or target practice
>won’t clean or maintain it ever
If you disregard the outliers a small revolver is not only a good choice, it’s literally the only firearms choice for women. It really doesn’t matter than they don’t like shooting it because they probably will never have to. They require only basic competency and are good enough for some dumb roastie to shoot a carjacker or crazy ex with. I don’t care about your bulldyke troony YouTuber who only shoots 10mm. I don’t care about your cousin who “owns a Glock 19” but it never leaves the box unless her boyfriend takes her to the range and holds her hand. For real women (ywnb1) to ccw the boomers are actually correct on this one.
I want to agree with you but their lack of strength also means that they're going to have a very hard time with that trigger
This anon fricks, to add to this what you have described is not just women but anyone who fits into the category of "zero interest, practice & maintenance" -- like someone who wouldn't be posting here. to give context to ITT, you know how children cannot tell other children have different experiences and knowledge until like 6 and
>80% of the autistic children fail the false-belief question.
You'll lose to him too, because he has an extended magazine and a switch on it, and he doesn't have a CCW permit, and after he kills you they'll use the kid gloves on him but if you shot him the DA of your shithole city would turn your butthole inside out for it
>better sights
they're aiming?
I daily carry a smith and Wesson model 38. I bought NIB with the original receipt for January 1970 making it a first year of production.
I’ve shot colt detectives, models 36’s, charter arms, Ruger LCR, and even that shitty little RIA.
The best snub nose revolver is the charter arms undercover
>monolithic frame allows it be the strong and lighter weight than the other full steel snub noses
>best sights of all snub noses hands down.
>great ergonomics
>adjustable cylinder release.
After first I thought the cylinder release was actually inferior but then an older time shows it’s better to just pull the ejector out rather than use the cylinder release at all and I found that to be very quick and effective, and it ergonomic.
Also it kills limey British singers.
>pic related my EDC
I carry a model 38 and I still believe the charter to be better.
Do you reall carry 3 reloads? How many pockets do you have?
The strippers I keep in my backpack.
I keep the safariland speedloader in my watch pocket.
It all depends on if I’m doing pocket carry or waistband carry. So basically whether or not I’m working.
My career choices mean that I can’t carry in the waistband all the time
It’s funny, revolvergays call autoloader carriers larpers, but then proceed to carry a speed loader and fricking speed strips like they’d actually be able to get a reload off while Tyrone is blasting at them with his 33 round mag or Draco. If you care about capacity that much just carry a fricking autoloader? Aren’t you shills always the ones harping on about you’ll never need more than 5 rounds in a defensive encounter?
I carry the strippers in my backpack since I travel I like have a few reloads on hand. I also carry autoloaders, I always carry a snub nose because they are easy to conceal and ive been shooting them since I was 18.
They are legal everywhere, so easy to travel with.
>Higher magazine capacity will protect me against the lifetime of bad choices which led to a thug with an extendo being a realistic threat to me.
anon...
How sheltered are you? I live in a 90% white town that now has regular jugging incidents from nogs specifically targeting white suburban people.
anon do you think thugs only target other poors and thugs? holy shit this thread is fricking moronic.
>lifetime of bad choices
That's not the reason formerly serene and beautiful countries have gone to shit, anon.
>The best snub nose revolver is the charter arms undercover
In your features you forgot how in their website they used to beg that you don't shoot .38 +P claiming it was because the barrel wasn't long enough for it to be worth it but actually it was because it would break the gun.
Frick Charter Arms.
Bro, I shot s couple hundred rounds of +p through mine. Wish I hadn’t sold it.
Worth noting it was from the 80s. Also charter arms has the best customer service I’ve dealt with.
Damn, you're making me feel good about my poorgay Undercover. Can you explain how to adjust the cylinder release? My cylinder has gotten slightly hard to push out of the frame.
I have a new model with the shrouded ejector rod. I'd prefer the unshrouded rod and I'd prefer a blued finish but I do like mine. I'm planning to replace the rubber grip with a slimmer wooden one.
Another huge factor that a lot of people ignore is the fact that a revolver can be pressed up against an attacker's body and fire, without going out of battery. If you are taken to the ground before you can unholster your gun you may find yourself pressing your barrel into someone's side.
Based small revolver ccw thread
nice trigger discipline, moron.
based clone high watcher
coward
I like revolvers, they are fun to shoot but I only have one modern one and I dont think Id CC unless I had no other options. As some have mentioned its a good weapon if you are traveling across states and meets cuck state compliances, but doesnt any pistol with 10 rds or less?
Noguns here; what's the metal hook for?
think
I had considered it, and it seemed too obvious and stupid. Open carry on the outside of your belt with just a single metal hook? This stuff is not always clear to nogunz.
Thanks for sharing; it hadn't occured to me that you might be hanging it on the inside of your waistband.
For easy, comfortable, and highly concealable carry in the waistband
I didnt read many of the posts ITT, but it seems like you guys are kinda missing a crucial detail here:
Revolvers are indeed perfectly adequate, for the specific type of personal defense related to living in an ethnically homogeneous community.
Think, 1950s criminal who used to be a bully and wear a leather jacket in high school:
>”Heeeere see, gimme ya wallet mistah! Or ill take this here switchblade and cut ya real good ya hear?”
But nowadays, 99% of places in America are shitholes. Hell, the town i grew up in, which 15 years ago was literally 97% White, is now only 90% White and falling. Luckily, most of the immigrants are 5’3 Squatemalans, but ive still noticed an uptick in the number of Black folk here.
So now, in order to be protected, ill need to carry a more capable firearm, like an autoloader, with more rounds, and easier to acquire sights, flashlights (Black folk blend into the dark) etc.
Now im more likely to face:
>”Ayo Dayquan, that doo White ova dere, lets get his ass! *BRRRRAAAAAA*”
In other words, when 14 year old gangs of Black folk have Glocks with stendos and switches, you need to up your firepower beyond 6 shots.
Good news is, Black folk cant shoot for beans. I used to work at a gun range and anything past 5 yards and you can pretty much stand still without getting hit.
now post a graph that goes back to the time range he actually mentioned
this is sex! make and model/what aftermarket grip?
Taurus 856 in .38spl with a 2" barrel. The wood grips are straight from the factory; it's nice to have space for all my fingers, but I've been debating on getting a rubber grip just to see if I like it. Never had anyone get excited about a Taurus, but I really like this one. I think they're good looking revolvers, and mine has been very reliable and accurate
The clip is a ClipDraw universal clip. Highly recommend
I have a RIA M200, its pretty decent. Ive only gotten it to the range twice so far but Im trying to tell if its the sights throwing me off or it its really kinda inncurate. Beyond 7 yards it seems to open up ALOT.
Why does every weekend see a thinly veiled revolver vs. autoloader thread
Larpers and teens can't help but be buttholes toward revolver bros
Probably because people get bored and revolver vs. semi auto posts are guaranteed responses.
this, these threads play out the exact same way because it's the exact same posters starting and participating in them it's boringly predictable?
Actually I made this thread because I am looking to pocket-carry a snub-nosed revolver, and the Chiefs Special unironically looks like the best option to me. I wanted to see if there are any good reasons why I shouldn't get one. So far I have seen none.
The Chief's Special is actually too small and you should consider something with slightly larger grips and a 3 inch barrel. I also would not get an RIA M200 or whatever because that gun is an experiment in making shit as cheap as possible and you will feel that low quality.
Go hammerless for a pocket carry
He said pocket carry, 3" barrel is a poor choice for that. 2" or under
Stop wearing woman pants
Revolvergays feel the need shill their propaganda despite being obsolete for decades at this point. They’re cut from the same cloth as the 10mm and Tokarevgays.
They are worse. Tokarevs at least shoot a really fricking mean cartridge, and 10mm autoloaders may be the future of high power pocket carry and we're just not there yet. Tokarev and 10mm gays just claim what they're shilling is good. But revolvergays claim their shit is SUPERIOR when that isn't true and then cope by calling anyone who disagrees a John Wick LARPer who needs 90 bullets and a gun that has a red dot and a flashlight and a bayonet and silencer meanwhile they're all cowboy LARPers who think they're going to deadeye into killing 6 dudes with 1 bullet each
Enjoy dying if you ever have to defend yourself against a pack a feral dogs.
Have you ever been in that situation, have you ever seen that situation, or are you just making up fantasy scenarios to justify what you think is true?
>come across 6 feral dogs
>shoot all 5 of your shots
>last feral dog: "Heh... you almost had me. My turn."
Apparently my city/neighboring city has quite a lot of crime. In highschool a friend had an old guy ask him for money in the street late at night and hours later realized the dude had a knife. A friend's sister got snatched at a gas station and got gang raped at a hotel. Meanwhile I've never so much as seen something bad happen.
I tried carrying my Glock, and while I love it, it was a hassle to carry. I needed a belt, a holster, had to pick certain clothes to hide it better...
Meanwhile my new airweight j frame slides into my pocket with ease and barely even prints. The worst thing? Having to put my wallet in a different pocket. "Dress around your gun!" But why? I don't want to. It doesn't matter if I have a five shot revolver in my pocket or my seventeen plus one glock in my pants, if I had someone pull up with a Blicky Wit Da Switch and Stendo Mag, I'm fricked either way. I own a Sig P365XL and I hate it. I shoot my j frame better than I can shoot that one. Where I live, I've never seen a crackhead. So if I got jumped by a few people, I'd imagine when I start shooting back, they'll scurry away. If you live in a high crime area, by all means carry a Glock. Maybe I'll start to carry mine when cold weather shows up again or if I plan a day around it. But to pretend like having one or the other is moronic is in of itself moronic. There's plenty of good reasons to have a Glock or similar, but there's also plenty of uses for a pocket revolver. If there wasn't, they wouldn't still be getting made.
>I tried carrying my Glock, and while I love it, it was a hassle to carry
>It doesn't matter if I have a five shot revolver in my pocket or my seventeen plus one glock
>"Carrying a J-frame is easier than a fricking full-sized glock"
Damn, what a breakthrough.
This thread is giving me a goddamned aneurism, I don't even know why I still come here anymore
>I don't even know why I still come here anymore
A regular dose of rage is good for you. Keeps the blood pumping& the wits sharp
>I tried carrying my Glock
>it was a hassle to carry
>my seventeen plus one glock
you shoot your j frame better than your sig? that's amazing to me as I shoot my p365 waaaay better than my m200 and its not even close
Not that guy, but my model 36 has a hogue grip and I shoot it a lot better than my p365. With the grip, they’re about the same size, so I have no problem pocket carrying either one, but I don’t really enjoy shooting the sig.
I have a clipdraw and some rubber hogue style grips on my PPK/S that I carry IWB with no holster. I live in a 99% white small town and the most dangerous shit I've seen is hillbillies fighting over stuffing in Walmart the day before thanksgiving.
Just buy a G43x MOS moron
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