Nukes are b***h weapons and have ruined warrior culture. The only real wars nowadays are a clearly stronger side bullying a weaker side. There is no such thing as honorable combat anymore
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Nukes are b***h weapons and have ruined warrior culture. The only real wars nowadays are a clearly stronger side bullying a weaker side. There is no such thing as honorable combat anymore
by that logic anything that fires a projectile is also a b***h weapon
medieval times where the last era of honorable combat and even then they still had crossbows so...
There is definitely honor to fighting within visual range of your enemy, knowing that your actions there will shape the future. Ultimately, even if you are some sort of video game god, you can only kill a few hundred people at a time, even in a plane. The loss of life in war is acceptable, and promotes cultural and diplomatic evolution.
Is it not a coincidence that human culture has become more degenerate since nukes were invented?
No considering you morons have been screaming about degenerates at least a decade before hand
>Honor in visual range
That goatfricker in bumfrickistan certainly went to valhalla once I domed him with this M24 at a kilometer
>There is definitely honor to fighting within visual range of your enemy, knowing that your actions there will shape the future.
do you struggle with object permanence then anon?
the closest thing to 'honourable combat' that exists is contact sport & martial arts.
I'll be the first to admit that when I'm fighting for survival I'll pull out every dirty trick in the book too, but the idea of drone warfare/beyond-visual-range missiles/etc ESPECIALLY in the context of air combat just robs war of its romanticism, to the extent that it ever had any.
There's some redeeming sense of "justice" in crashing and burning knowing that you were bested by an opponent who honed their skills to be better than you were as opposed to getting fricked out of nowhere without warning because your bureaucrats budgeted less for missile guidance units than did your enemy's.
Life isn't an anime. I suspect you've never fought for survival because you have such a romanticised view of violence. The reality is that you live your life according to technological and cultural advantages that many do not have; the reality is that you take 'unfair' advantage in many facets of your life that are a microcosm of the 'dishonourable' nature of nuclear weapons and the reality of combat.
>to the extent that it ever had any.
I feel like modern warfare just exposes that it never HAD romanticism, that any that was ginned up was done so to convince poor sods to get involved.
It all went downhill when this was made.
there's no such thing as honorable combat, except for morons, you moron.
>there's no such thing as honorable combat
Well they aren't b***h weapons but they have prolonged geopolitical issues that should have been solved generations ago. Without nukes, the US and Russia/China would have just had a conventional war probably in the 50s/60s and have been done with it. Now we have a perpetual cold war instead.
i wouldn't worry about it
Moscow
WW1 ruined the image of romantic wars and any bit of honourable warrior culture that remained, not nuclear weapons.
You are correct and its a good thing
>honorable combat
never was you moron
Nobody actually wants nukes to exist. Every nation that has one cannot use one. Even if MAD wasn't a thing I don't think any nation at this point would even want to use one at this point because the world being more urbanized now and with modern understanding of nukes enviornmental impact on a global scale I thin people would be too afraid to. The exception was Japan but even those nukes were F-tier.
The only reason countries keep a nuclear stockpile is purely for self-defense. Every nuclear nation probably wishes nukes were never invented, because it makes war needlessly more complicated for no reason
If anything a nuclear war is more egalitarian. No more having a portion of your populace sit the war out from a safe distance, while they send less fortunate segments out to fight and die and watch on the television. Now everyone gets involved, the fire touches all.
When was it romantic, exactly?
When archers stuck their arrows in the dirt in front of them and if you got hit, you either died quickly from blood loss or slowly from infection?
Getting burned alive by boiling pitch in medieval sieges?
Having your arm or leg blown half off by a musket or cannonball and having the rest sawn off in the field without anesthetic?
Dying in a muddy trench from a mustard gas attack?