CCW in California

Hey anons,
I'm a 20 year old guy and I want to get a conceal carry weapons permit. I need to it legally carry in my state. I know I can apply once I am 21 (next month)

Anything I should know beforehand? All my family owns guns, and we had them in our house up until very recently. My father passed and my mom donated all of them to the family. She comes from a very privileged background who believes people cannot be assaulted, but my father hunted with his siblings in the Soviet Union. My uncle is currently in possession of his old hunting rifles.

I need a firearm for self defense, any help to acquire a legal permit any tips is appreciated 🙂

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >CCW in California
    Good fricking luck. I don't keep up with the laws in Cali but it's supposed to be pretty hard to get a ccw. Iirc it's highly dependent on your address or some shit with rural counties being comparatively more willing to issue ccws. Maybe check a state-specific forum like Caliguns.

    In the meantime, carry pepperspray, learn a martial art (or two - one striking style, one grappling) and buy some good running shoes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ignorant cretin.
      Opee, move to a red County (AKA mAJORITY WHITE)

      I got my CCW 10 years ago in less than 2 weeks.... I am about 100 miles east of San Francisco..

      I used to commute via Southwest to LA for my executive job. The presence and mere display of my sidearm prevented an armed robbery of a store and a 211 strongarm of myself.

      MOST of CA is red as frick....

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >MOST of CA is red as frick....
        Shame that doesn't include your legislators, homosexual.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hispanic VOTER AND VOTE FRAUD CAUSED THAT. I almost got arrested 15 years ago when I noticed spiuc names registered to vote at MY ADDRESS. I took a photo of the page. hispanics who did not live at my house were registered to vote at MY address.
          (this was back when you voted in yer neighborhood in some boomers garage. They dont ask yer NAME they would ask yer ADDRESS. Then they go to the address and see if yer name (that you give them) is registered to vote. If so you sign and they hand you a ballot. Demonshits gamed this LONG ago to take over.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >MOST of CA is red as frick....
        so why does your sheriff uphold their communist bullshit laws instead of annexing their municipality to another state. aint nothing preventing a bunch of you guys from just saying you're nevada

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look up proposition D & EE from 2020 I believe. San Bernardino County residents voted by a wide margin to begin negotiations for secession into their own state. The way the government is set up, it's not allowed unless the state legislature of CA approves it and they'll never relinquish power. They should sue for their grievances though until they become such a burden the state lets them go. Many counties would secede from CA if they could.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seriously all need to move. Red counties prop up the failed state of CA, doing the rest of us no good. The shitters from LA and San Fran are spreading to other states like fungal spores while remainers choke out your voting power at the same time. You guys are dead weight right now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          too late dolls, all the knee jerk non-clever types who like to say "MOVE to a free state" THAT is no longer the ANSWER. Kameltoe is YOUR vice pres. Kameltoe signed alot of our gun laws that coming to YOU federally
          California is MOVING to YOU. They bring CANCER. There is no "move" there is only fight. (relax federals non violently legal political "fight", not doing terror for you idiots)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's doable now. Some counties were no-issue meaning they would not issue a CCW to any residents under any circumstances, and some were may-issue meaning if you jump through hoops and write a ridiculous essay about yourself you could get one. The Supreme Court stepped in and ruled they had to issue CCWs or they would not be in line with the Constitution, which protects the right to keep and bear (own and carry) weapons. So now all counties are shall-issue. Depending on the county they may still reluctantly issue them, and you have to jump through hoops but eventually after a long time they have to give you one. If they don't for a BS reason or take longer than a year, sue them and contact Judge Benitez's office for possible prosecution.

      I will warn you the test is not easy for people who don't actually have formal shooting training. You'll probably have to land some shots on vitals at around 75 feet. It's usually the same test as the police qualifications test, but you're doing it with your small CCW gun (which cops have to qualify with too if they want to carry even as a backup). Look up CCW training test standards and test yourself at the range to see if you can qualify, it would suck to get to that point and fail. Most people who carry guns on this board probably couldn't pass that very basic, supposed to be easy test. Average gun owners are fricking terrible shooters, so don't get over confident and find a way to improve so you can actually be ready.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where do I start evening beginning to shoot firearms?

        Local ranges are few and far between because southern California. I'm above the age of 18

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most people can get accurate rifle shooting down, but handguns are a different machine as small weaknesses in the wrists can throw shots immensely. I don't mean all you need is strong wrists, you need to know what mistakes not to make to keep the gun as stable as possible while that bullet leaves the barrel.

          There are a shit ton of bad tactical training schools. I stopped going to civilian schools after ending up at a horrible one where they were so unsafe I got hit with buckshot ricochet. The tactics were bad too, laughably outdated because the main teacher was a SWAT guy in the 90s. I would contact local tactical training schools and ask what the teacher's credentials are. If they have a reputable certification like from Gunsite or the NRA or have prior LEO experience with a reputable agency, they might be good. Ex military guys usually suck, they're not masters with handguns and don't get a lot of CQB training. They know more about open field combat and unit communication though.

          An OC deputy recommended Sentinel Defense (sendef.com) which is out in Chino. There's one close to them called Firearms Training Associates, don't use them they're absolute garbage. Im pretty sure you have to take a class as part of the CCW process because they have specific CCW classes. If not, you want a basic handgun course and maybe an additional advanced handgun course. Don't take any of the weird ones like home defense handgun until later because you want to learn the basic fundamentals of marksmanship first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where do I start evening beginning to shoot firearms?

        Local ranges are few and far between because southern California. I'm above the age of 18

        I need guides if you guys have any. I'm coming into this new and I need to learn now

        Also what makes gun owners such shit shots? I've only been to a bow and arrow range

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're overconfident and invest more into cool equipment than they do into actual training. There's people on here who will tear into me for even mentioning formal training because they think it's a ripoff and that they can learn on their own. That's true to an extent, but they're going to miss a lot. There are established scientific methods to shooting accurately and they're not even hard to learn, 1-2 classes will set anyone straight and give them a good basis for how to continue training. Definitely write stuff down that they tell you in thr classes so you can brush up on them years down the line, like the 5 fundamentals, reload drills, and failure drills. Dry fire is yoir best friend when it comes to training, if you can pull a trigger without your sights moving on an empty chamber, and repeat that with a loaded weapon, you should be pretty accurate.

          Archery is a good base to have, the concepts of archery accuracy translate over to shooting perfectly. Namely if every shot is the same (same grip, same stance, same release) then the arrow/bullet should always land in the same place where you intend it to.

          I'll link some legal reading material.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is direct from police training this year as to what knives and alternative weapons are prohibited. You may have to switch to desktop view to see the full quality image if you're a phonegay.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It gets worse, other states you may laugh at us.

              This is what they define a "switchblade knife" as which is prohibited, if the blade is over 2". So you could carry a miniature flick knife but honestly 2" won't do shit. I'd carry the biggest manually opening knife legally allowed which is 4". Fixed blade or pocket knife the legal limit is 4". Really only people who've already committed another crime actually get charged for shit like this though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Here's the laws regarding when it's ok to use deadly force to defend yourself or another:

                https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=195.

                https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=197.

                https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=198.5.

                There is a duty to attempt to retreat before lethal force can be used, or strong articulation as to why retreat was not possib or using a lesser means of subduing them was not possible. We do have castle doctrine, you can shoot anyone in your house as long as it's not someone who lives there, a visitor, or confused old person trespassing. The "I feared for my life" defense does not work, as there's a clause that specifically states a "bare fear" is not sufficient enough evidence for justification. You must have strong reasonable articulation that the elements stated in these laws were met.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's such bullshit, you're saying I'm unable to commit lethal force if I believe a guy has his buddies around? Would I not die instead? What the frick?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thats why HA 's routinely carry ball peen hammers... And pig stickers in a belt sheath. Totally legal.

              Here's how dumb CA law is. Having a loaded glock in yer crotch is a misdemeanor IF its registered to you. Having a concealed double bladed knife or a baseball bat in yer car with no mitt is a FELONY

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Felons can't carry any weapons, a hammer would need strong justification for them to have like they're at work on a construction site.

                You could however, as a non felon, carry an unloaded gun on your person without a permit, but it gets tricky. Only loaded guns are illegal to carry in CA, except in some areas where no guns are allowed like airports, schools, etc. So you could carry the gun unloaded, but the state defines "loaded" as having ammunition anywhere on your person. If the gun has no mag or round chambered, but you have a mag in your back pocket, that's "loaded" in moronland. But if you have the gun and someone next to you has the mag, totally legal. Bikers will do shit like this, the sergeant at arms will carry guns for the ones who are felons then toss them to them when needed. Or they travel in pairs and one has the gun and the other the mags. Bikers are basically just smarter gangsters, other types of gangers typically aren't smart enough to figure out the loopholes, and you know who I mean. I believe it counts as loaded if it's in the car with ammo anywhere in the car, a locked trunk being an exception. You could technically carry a loaded gun in a locked safe on your person. Whoever invents a practical, wearable safe is a fricking god of btfo'ing commiefornia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My best friend has been a cop for a long time, he says they cant charge for posession of a hammer. Felon or not. (most HA ARE felons btw)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is correct it's just firearms, I'm confusing it with another state I've practiced in. Those on probation or parole for certain crimes will undoubtedly have a clause written in that they can't carry any type of weapon. California also prohibits anyone convicted of any assault/battery from carrying a firearm, regardless of whether or not it's domestic violence related.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                please dont spew idiotic info on ca gun laws when you have no idea wtf yer talking about. For a short course, just go to the CHP website and see what they say is legal way to carry a pistol in yer car sans ccw.

                Suffice it to say, YOU CAN carry an unloaded handgun in a locked container that is NOT the glove box or “utility compartment” of the vehicle.
                There is NO LAW that says the ammo has to be in separate container, all it says is that the ammo cannot be in the chamber and that a loaded magazine cannot be inserted in the magwell.
                Before I had ccw, i kept my glockenspiel in pic related with loaded mags (not inserted) not exactly lightning quick access but 100% legal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So if you do have a mitt, it’s fine to carry a bat?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's no law preventing bats, though there is against billies which are batons. CA Penal Code is the most ridiculously written lawbook I've ever studied, there are literally still sections that use the words master and slave. Even when making new laws they choose to use rhe most arcane wording possible.

                I just posted all the prohibited weapons above. You can carry hammers, bats, shit like that which aren't primarily weapons. You can't carry batons, blackjacks, shit like that which is primarily designed as a weapon. I've even heard monkey fists and kubatons fall under that classification. CA doesn't even allow you to carry a dirk or dagger because they're primarily designed as weapons not tools. Gayest state ever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                sage

                so a different stinction needs to be made. If yer mobile, (automobile, bike, walking) tooling around with a baseball bat will get you stopped and if you dont have plausible deniability that its a tool not primarily a weapon (aka also having a mitt or ball) the officer can try a weappn charge (and let the DA sort it out).

                if yer in yer home, theres no issue whatsoever.

                similar to other “constructive posession statutes)
                example: if you own an AR-15 rifle and then order a >16” upper from Palmetto you can be charged with posession of an SBR even if you never installed it.

                IF you legally own an ar pistol, and a ar rifle, you can then store posess multiple sub 16” barreled uppers with no issue. Youve heard of “situational ethics”? Well, CA has situational weapon laws…

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >CA has situational weapon laws
                No, they don't. It has to fit with the letter of the law under the elements that make a prohibited weapon, or a prohibited carrying of a weapon. Arizona has situational weapons laws. I know of a case where a felon was charged for brass knuckles because he had taped the back of them where the palm goes to pad the palm, thus showing it was not a "paperweight" but actually intended to be used as a weapon. All brass knuckles are illegal in California but something like that won't apply. You could have a hammer on your belt with tape around that handle that has "skull crusher 9000" engraved on the handle and it's still just a hammer until you use it otherwise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                sage

                I can open carry my Albion and Cold steel swords openly in ca, including my hand a half double edge dagger (which has like a14” blade)

                Sons of Anarchy restarted this trend and now every zoomer with a harley tools around with 12” bowie knives on their hip in my county (the county where SOA’s story line was based on)

              • 3 weeks ago
                sage

                (i only carry at HEMA events/practice training etc)

                I am surprised swords are banned wholesale everywhere. Arguably, a guy with a 30” sword running amok could do more damage than some fbi windup tiy with a meme gun…

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No longer legal, the laws change a lot here.

                https://i.imgur.com/eBHLitL.jpg

                please dont spew idiotic info on ca gun laws when you have no idea wtf yer talking about. For a short course, just go to the CHP website and see what they say is legal way to carry a pistol in yer car sans ccw.

                Suffice it to say, YOU CAN carry an unloaded handgun in a locked container that is NOT the glove box or “utility compartment” of the vehicle.
                There is NO LAW that says the ammo has to be in separate container, all it says is that the ammo cannot be in the chamber and that a loaded magazine cannot be inserted in the magwell.
                Before I had ccw, i kept my glockenspiel in pic related with loaded mags (not inserted) not exactly lightning quick access but 100% legal.

                Again no longer legal. Either the gun, ammo, or both have to be in a locked container as the state recently redefined "loaded firearm" as the ammo being anywhere readily available. I took my weapons violations course last November but some instructors and materials can be dated too. I generally am not going to believe some moron online on matters of law unless they provide a source and it actually has to be the CA leg website not some bullshit third party site. The laws change too quickly out here for that. It's honestly why a lot of shit just gets ignored or unenforced, nobody even knows what the law is regarding weapons out here. That bunch of gays, israelites, and women up in Sacramento are frantically making new moronic restrictions so quickly no one can keep up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ignorance here is APALLING.
                There is no new law on transporting handguns in CA.

                Transporting handguns:

                Place the unloaded handgun in a secure completely enclosing case and lock it in.

                There is no guidance on what 'secure' means.

                The locked case with the unloaded handgun may be transported anyplace within a motor vehicle, and inside an outer case, range bag or backpack.

                The law provides that the glove box of a vehicle is not acceptable as a locked container for transport - but does not define 'glove box'.

                The law provides that the 'utility compartment' of a vehicle is not acceptable as a locked container for transport - but does not define 'utility compartment'.

                There is concern that somehow attaching a separate locked container to one's vehicle makes that container a 'utility compartment'. Nobody knows if that is accurate.

                A locked trunk is acceptable as a place to transport an unloaded handgun.

                There are concerns expressed about 'pass-through' seats and remote trunk releases. Nobody knows for sure if those may be a problem.

                Unloaded locked case is California's general rule for transporting handguns and is also the rule in California's Gun Free School Zone law.
                Transporting long guns:

                California law is silent about IN-Vehicle transport of long guns.

                California 'registered assault weapons' follow the same rules as handguns.

                Federal law, the Gun Free School Zone, requires long guns to be EITHER in a locked container OR in a locking gun rack.
                Transporting ammunition:

                Both California and Federal law are silent on the transportation of ammunition.

                So long as not transported in the gun to make it loaded, ammunition may be transported at any location in a vehicle, covered or open, locked or unlocked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said I would not accept your anecdotal opinion on the law and would only accept sourced information, and what did your narcissist ass do? Watch me btfo this guy. Highlighted area in pic related is what they are teaching cops.

                Here's the law regarding carrying loaded firearms, SOURCED:
                >A person is guilty of carrying a loaded firearm when the person carries a loaded firearm on the person or in a vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city, city and county, or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area of an unincorporated area of a county or city and county.
                https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=25850.&lawCode=PEN

                Here's the definition of loaded firearm, SOURCED:
                >As used in Section 25800, a firearm shall be deemed to be “loaded” whenever both the firearm and the unexpended ammunition capable of being discharged from the firearm are in the immediate possession of the same person.
                https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=16840.&lawCode=PEN

                In layman's terms, since you are a layman in this field with zero training or education, that means you have to have your ammo or gun in a separate locked container while in a vehicle. The trunk counts, cops have to write up a justified warrant to search just your trunk even if they're inventorying your vehicle after arrest. That case law comes out of my DA's office.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok I actually read through this for shits and gigs, every single thing is wrong. Every point I could highlight under with greentext and show why it's wrong. This is exactly why you don't get your legal knowledge from a bunch of opinionated morons on the internet. Idk where you sourced all this but you need to learn the actual method of sourcing legal information, it's not hard. There's the CA legislature website and CA POST website with all the current police training manuals. You wanna know something funny? Their constitutional law class goes over every amendment but completely skips 2A lmao, it just contradicts the entire weapons violation class. I also wouldn't be surprised if your claim that the law "doesn't define" secure, glove box, and utility compartments are. California law is written by moronic clowns, but usually the law will define terms, sometimes in different sections. Your terms are specific and very pertinent, they're likely defined. The glove box should be fine, they'd have to get a warrant to search it anyway if locked, and that goes for any locked container they come across, unless your dumbass consents to opening it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=16840.&lawCode=PEN
                the law specifically says the glove box is NOT fine. Your pic related clearly states a firearm shall be deemed loaded ONLy if cartridges are in chamber or loaded magazines are in the mag well.
                You are wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a narcissist who can't accept that he's wrong or just moronic.

                Read this several times over. When they put in layman's terms in the cop courses, they say exactly this: if a person even has one unexpended round on their person that can be fired through that gun, loaded in a magazine or not, that gun is considered "loaded" per commiefornia's doublespeak definition of it. You live in a shitty state and the laws are fricked up, everybody already knows this so idk why your bias is the other way around.

              • 2 weeks ago
                OP

                This is abominably true. Do people really believe a state that has a higher GDP than FRANCE should have a homelessness, gang, and legislative issues if it wasn't for corruption and incompetency?

                California as land is unfathomably rich, but put in the hands of the purely incompetent and sociopath

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sociopath
                No, psychopaths and narcissists, generally just selfish morons. Sociopathy is no longer used in psychology, they now call it antisocial personality disorder and guaranteed you have some antisocial traits if you're on here. They come up with random names for shit in psychology, sociopathy was never really associated with psychopathy, two completely different trait sets.

              • 2 weeks ago
                OP

                There are two factors, and four facets in an ASPD diagnosis

                Antisocial traits on /k/ or PrepHole?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that a sociopath is not a bad thing, it's just an antisocial person. Psychology isn't a hard science so they always come up with these offensive sounding names for fake disorders. Sociopath is often confused with psychopath but they're completely different. A psychopath is an extremely dangerous set of traits. Think criminals, people who are extremely selfish, no concept of ethics, and have no impulse control so they become completely self serving and snap easily.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Sieg

                Riverside county? They mentioned being in norco California a lot and berdoo hells angels

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/4L2nYXF.jpg

              It gets worse, other states you may laugh at us.

              This is what they define a "switchblade knife" as which is prohibited, if the blade is over 2". So you could carry a miniature flick knife but honestly 2" won't do shit. I'd carry the biggest manually opening knife legally allowed which is 4". Fixed blade or pocket knife the legal limit is 4". Really only people who've already committed another crime actually get charged for shit like this though.

              Would a Leatherman be considered a switchblade? My wingman contains a knife that activates when you push it down, but you have to pull it out. The push down only unlocks your ability to pull it out. That's just part of the multitool though, what do you guys think? It has files, screwdrivers, even wire cutters. Basically a Swiss army knife

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            laugh if you will, but I learned more in a 4 day handgun course at frontsight in Pahrump than I did in a decade of going to the range and "practicing" (wrong). I was so crappy I thought it was my grip strength so I was buying several different wrist squeeze exercise devices and squeezing the gun super tight in the mistaken assumption that the gun was recoiling too much. I always marveled at IPSC shooters who blast away while the pistols doesnt move save for the slide... They notcied right away I was gripping so tight, they said hey, what happens if you hold a pencil out with one hand grip it super tight? Well, it shakes like a leaf. As soon as I got that masterd {firm grip, thumbs pointed downrange, palms contact patch maximised etc) I finished the course able to put 3 rounds in head or center chest at 3,5,7,12 yards in less than 2 secs from concealed draw. I am even faster now.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I grip guns tight af, as I was told to by am instructor. It improved my shots immensely using tight solid grip and the push/pull method. I was letting the recoil do what it wanted which was throwing shots. My biggest moronation was doing the thing where you watch the sights move, then fire the second it's over the target. You'll miss every fricking time doing that and it's a common noob mistake. Sights must be sturdy on target before and during the press.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a weird ego thing with gunz people when it comes to training and competition. When yer talking to the typical gun nut in a gun store or wherever, everyone's an expert marksman. But very few have formal training and even fewer actually COMPETE where objective measurement trumps ego... I love shooting my WWII garand and WWI 1903 at the highpower matches in Sacramento.
            600 yards- IRON SIGHTS

            I can confidently make combat effective hits at 600 yards with both rifles. Learned more at NRA matches than boot, thats fer sure.

            The boomers there LOVE to teach and I have learned alot

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's a male ego thing. You go to the gym and all the bloated shits think they're the strongest and could take anyone in a fight just because they lift. In public all the fat and tall guys assume they could kick anyone's ass. Actual trained fighters know this is not the case, they know where they stand because they've been tested whereas the general public has not.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OP here, and I did boxing recreationally for a year. I can confirm what you're saying.

                I stand 5'8'' 150lb and know I can beat down 75% of the population in a fair fight, even if they were heavier or taller than me. That last 25% is what makes me reconsider. They may have buddies around, weapons, or fight experience themselves. I also could totally frick up despite my training. Best thing is to walk away. You will have an ignorant person once in a while that will push his or her advantage, and that is when you need to teach them a lesson.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        depends, every issuing authority sets their qualification standards. NONE of them require shooting pistols at targets farther than 25 feet (my county is 3,5,7 and 15 yards which is easy with a pistol-old farts with wheelguns sometimes struggle due to reload times... Dunno where you got 75... There are time requirements too, most really arent that tough. There are a few that are a challenge though from what I've heard.

        Anyone interested in my self defence incidents? One in La Habra and the other in Burbank...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's probably 25 yard kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess thats possible. In my last renewal course, there were peeps from various counties and the instructor had to tailor their "qualification" for each issuing authority. There were at least 4 unique tests but none were more than 15 yards. At 25 yards, any DA in CA is gonna question the logic of sending lead downrange when yer not really in danger...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't keep up with the laws in Cali
      then don't spout off shit you don't know about ffs

      https://i.imgur.com/WiZoKzl.jpg

      Hey anons,
      I'm a 20 year old guy and I want to get a conceal carry weapons permit. I need to it legally carry in my state. I know I can apply once I am 21 (next month)

      Anything I should know beforehand? All my family owns guns, and we had them in our house up until very recently. My father passed and my mom donated all of them to the family. She comes from a very privileged background who believes people cannot be assaulted, but my father hunted with his siblings in the Soviet Union. My uncle is currently in possession of his old hunting rifles.

      I need a firearm for self defense, any help to acquire a legal permit any tips is appreciated 🙂

      They're pretty much all shall-issue now. I'm thinking of applying very soon myself. In my county I do know you have to already posess a handgun before filing for the permit so check up on that and have your papers squared away and some money saved so as soon as you turn 21 you can get a handgun and look at applying for the permit.

      Also, even sans a concealed carry "license" carrying a loaded concealed pistol REGISTERED TO YOU is only a misdameanor in CA.

      Also, the "poor mans carry" in decadent demoncrap controlled areas is placing the pistol in one of those quick access electronic safes. You can have the pistol AND a loaded mag in the case as long as the mag is not insertyed "in the magwell of the firearm"

      You MAY not beat the ride but with competent legal you WILL beat the rap.

      (many cops STILL think you cant have ammo and firearm in the same case, they are WRONG)

      based advice

      My county no interview.
      and the sheriff coaches you on wording of yer just cause statement.
      (dont be black tho)

      You don't need just cause anymore. For over a year now.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >california
    might as well get in your knees a d start sucking COMMIEFORNIAhomosexual!

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be ready to cough up more money than you think. Here's where I'm at:

    >Application June 2023: $~72
    >Interview December 2023
    >Psychological questionnaire & Psychologist interview: $150
    >Livescan (fingerprinting) $25 (this is where I'm at)
    >Training: About $275

    Make sure you have a gun and it's in the CFARS thing

    >t. Texan who moved to this shithole for work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depends on the county

      my county:
      no psych eval
      72 fee
      8 hour course 125

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus Christ, I thought I had it bad when I got one in Ohio before we passed constitutional carry.
      $125 course (you could find courses as cheap as $75 tho)
      $67 to the county sheriff for the application and fingerprinting/background check stuff

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also, even sans a concealed carry "license" carrying a loaded concealed pistol REGISTERED TO YOU is only a misdameanor in CA.

    Also, the "poor mans carry" in decadent demoncrap controlled areas is placing the pistol in one of those quick access electronic safes. You can have the pistol AND a loaded mag in the case as long as the mag is not insertyed "in the magwell of the firearm"

    You MAY not beat the ride but with competent legal you WILL beat the rap.

    (many cops STILL think you cant have ammo and firearm in the same case, they are WRONG)

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CCW in California is easy unless you live in about 3 counties. If you want an actual challenge try getting a Hawaii or Maryland permit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      correct.
      The city, san jose, LA, alameda
      FUGEDDABOUT IT

      contra costa, SAN JOAQUIN, SAN DIEGO, *MAYBE*

      EVERYWHERE ELSE, NO BIG DEAL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I live in LA county, frick anons what do I do?

      Also, even sans a concealed carry "license" carrying a loaded concealed pistol REGISTERED TO YOU is only a misdameanor in CA.

      Also, the "poor mans carry" in decadent demoncrap controlled areas is placing the pistol in one of those quick access electronic safes. You can have the pistol AND a loaded mag in the case as long as the mag is not insertyed "in the magwell of the firearm"

      You MAY not beat the ride but with competent legal you WILL beat the rap.

      (many cops STILL think you cant have ammo and firearm in the same case, they are WRONG)

      What do you mean quick access safe? Like one of those small brief cases you can keep in your car?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>>
        >Anonymous 02/02/24(Fri)19:06:05 No.60840668▶

        Hispanic VOTER AND VOTE FRAUD CAUSED THAT. I almost got arrested 15 years ago when I noticed spiuc names registered to vote at MY ADDRESS. I took a photo of the page. hispanics who did not live at my house were registered to vote at MY address.


        (this was back when you voted in yer neighborhood in some boomers garage. They dont ask yer NAME they would ask yer ADDRESS. Then they go to the address and see if yer name (that you give them) is registered to vote. If so you sign and they hand you a ballot. Demonshits gamed this LONG ago to take over.
        >

        ignorant cretin.


        Opee, move to a red County (AKA mAJORITY WHITE)

        I got my CCW 10 years ago in less than 2 weeks.... I am about 100 miles east of San Francisco..

        I used to commute via Southwest to LA for my executive job. The presence and mere display of my sidearm prevented an armed robbery of a store and a 211 strongarm of myself.

        MOST of CA is red as frick.... (You)
        yes, the push button steel boxes. Satisfies the CA penal code for transporting a handgun _basically CA law says the handgun must be transported in a "locked container other than the glove box or utility compartment" Even a backpack with a TSA lock on the zipper closure satifies the requirement.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where the frick is "the city" moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        sage

        When educated people (in northern cal) say “the city” they are referring to san francisco.

        lower class uneducated will say ‘“‘frisco”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      correct.
      The city, san jose, LA, alameda
      FUGEDDABOUT IT

      contra costa, SAN JOAQUIN, SAN DIEGO, *MAYBE*

      EVERYWHERE ELSE, NO BIG DEAL

      Supreme court ruling has changed CA into shall issue from may issue.

      Those counties responded by imposing a poll tax. Basically anyone can get a CCW in San Jose, but only if you pay a $1300 fee just to start the process, and several thousand more complete all the steps.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My county no interview.
    and the sheriff coaches you on wording of yer just cause statement.
    (dont be black tho)

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    russian, so yer prolly in sacramento? Get on Calguns and see what the sac county sheriff is requiring, If you can move to placer or el dorado, should be no problem getting one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LA county. I'm one of the few people in my college who understands the difference between clip and mag. I had one liberal tell me we had to ban rifles but guns were fine

      >Now, if it comes down to actually having to use said firearm.. thats a whole other crate of feces Im sure, as Commiefornia is not as good as other states allowing people to justify their defense.
      Yeah, if I was carrying in California I'd research good criminal defense firms well in advance of any shit going down and I'd be putting a bit of money aside into a lawyer emergency fund every time I bought a box of ammo.

      >CCW in California
      Good fricking luck. I don't keep up with the laws in Cali but it's supposed to be pretty hard to get a ccw. Iirc it's highly dependent on your address or some shit with rural counties being comparatively more willing to issue ccws. Maybe check a state-specific forum like Caliguns.

      In the meantime, carry pepperspray, learn a martial art (or two - one striking style, one grappling) and buy some good running shoes.

      I'm a former boxer, and really fit. Best mile time was 6 minutes - 5:45. I'm 5'8'' but have visible striations and muscle, especially if im wearing a tank or a shirt that fits me. Face looks scary also

      you dont have the life experience or maturity for such a decision let alone the physical skills. guns are for 30+ year olds

      Some black homeless guy tried to rob my phone. He reached into his backpack he had in the front of him to signal he was strapped. I told him to frick off, and he indeed WAS NOT strapped

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >LA county
        Aw shit, prepare to jump through flaming hoops and wait years for a permit. That place pretty much isn't even a part of America. Try to move to SB or OC counties if you can. Riverside county has a based sheriff and historically they've always been shall issue. OC is quite red as well but pussy rich people red not real rural red. I just quiet carry in SB but I could claim LEOSA and not get charged for it due to prior LEO experience.

        Carry a knife in the meantime. If you need to go lethal, you'll need a means of doing so and knives kill people just fine as they always have. I don't frick around with spray and other bullshit because I can depend on my fists up until lethal force is necessary. At that point, stick em if you can't shoot em. The only time a tweaker bum has fricked with me he pulled out a rusty screwdriver and gardening tools. They always have weapons of some kind so even the ability to respond with a knife is extremely useful above not having any means of going lethal. The knife laws here are restrictive and change often but just carry wtf you want. I can pull them up if you care to follow them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have a great track to all the UC's and USC. Including UCLA and Berkeley but also Riverside, Irvine. It would be hell to be accepted to UCLA because I would be staying local. I would go on about tuition and loans, but this is k not biz

          I have a Leatherman Wingman knife I keep on me at all times, in my backpack. Leatherman classifies it as a straight edge so I figure if anything happens, I and my lawyer would be able to work around that. It's about 3.5 inches.

          I also know some super elementary wrestling and boxed for 15 months. I fold the average person, and then some. But what I found out is that training longer made me realize how much more there is to learn, dunning Kruger effect

          I need self defense laws and knife laws.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I say the stuff about the colleges because that would make an influence into me staying local. It's late and I don't mean to rant about college. I'll probably have to stay around the area, though so I have to figure it all out before I decide to stay even longer

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lived there for a time and what ither anons say is correct. If you live in libshit hotspot counties/cities if will be like pulling teeth but not impossible. Otherwise its not hard if you just research what they want where you live and are willing to spend a bit more time and money going through the process opposed to other states.

    Now, if it comes down to actually having to use said firearm.. thats a whole other crate of feces Im sure, as Commiefornia is not as good as other states allowing people to justify their defense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Now, if it comes down to actually having to use said firearm.. thats a whole other crate of feces Im sure, as Commiefornia is not as good as other states allowing people to justify their defense.
      Yeah, if I was carrying in California I'd research good criminal defense firms well in advance of any shit going down and I'd be putting a bit of money aside into a lawyer emergency fund every time I bought a box of ammo.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you dont have the life experience or maturity for such a decision let alone the physical skills. guns are for 30+ year olds

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guns are for 30+ year olds
      Frick off man-baby nu/k/ moron.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Luck of the draw highly depends on what county/city you live in, I luckily got my CCW from Torrance right as the wave of applications was coming beginning of 2023.

    I'm up working in the Bay Area right now, that's a different story, Santa Clara sheriff got hosed for taking bribes for CCWs last year I believe, and San Jose PD will likely arrest me if I ever call them while carrying.

    Should check out a dude on Youtube named "Reno May", he lives in a more right-leaning county and talks about a lot of CA gun law stuff, I think hes the plaintiff on one of the big CA lawsuits too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking hate my city, bro. It's full of passive aggressive liberals, fake conservatives, and morons. I can't go anywhere without an idiot driver or some guy crying wolf over me calling him out on being a passive aggressive pussy. Police don't do shit, either. Can't even get a gun to defend myself, frick the police chief and his wife and all the lawmakers. These people are trying to ban a category of gun that doesn't even exist

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just another day in paradise my friend, my parents constantly lament on how beautiful the Bay used to be after I tell them about all the homeless people and car break-ins. Just gotta try to educate people, more and more are waking up to Newsom and his cronies.

        Just looked it up, yeah Santa Clara Sheriff Laurie Smith sentenced to 6 counts of corruption still gets her pension after "retirement", ahahahah

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >found guilty of corruption
          >still gets a pension from the state
          What the absolute frick
          I knew it was turning into a banana Republic, I didn't realize it was THAT bad

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mark Furhman lives a very comfortable life in ID...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Careful comrade, The Party has a long memory

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tisas 1911 Manta Ray Duty B45B

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At the moment, you can’t legally bring a gun just about anywhere in public.
    https://apnews.com/article/california-concealed-carry-gun-law-appeal-53136d83deba7cc74f908fffc4dd8106

    • 3 weeks ago
      sage

      The law rendering ccw’s useless was also overturned by Saint Benitez.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Sieg

    County really matters San Bernardino yeah you get to carry fricking easy

    Los Angeles probably not unless you’re Taylor swift

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you live in the central valley its pretty easy.

    My dad lives in Stanislaus county and after doing some courses with the Sheriff, he was able to get it pretty easily.

    He has to requalify every few years, but he can CC wherever he wants. He even accidentally CC'd into the San Francisco mayor's office once lmao

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go buy this instead or at least in meantime https://airguntactical.com/products/aea-defender-pcp-air-pistol

    Also go vegan and become an abortion abolitionist

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick ya mudda

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP here

    just got back from a from a long day, going to read all of this

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will be traveling to California and want to carry my weapon. I currently have a concealed weapon permit. How can I legally transport my weapon while driving through the state?

    California law does not recognize concealed weapon permits from other states; therefore, they would not be held valid. If you wish to transport a handgun during your California visit, it should be carried unloaded in a locked container. In the absence of a suitable container, you may secure the unloaded handgun in the locked trunk of a passenger car. Ammunition may be kept in the same container or trunk, but the handgun must remain unloaded with no rounds in the cylinder and no loaded magazines in the magazine well.

    If you have additional questions, contact the California Department of Justice at (916) 227-3703.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This may be one of the few instances where reddit is more useful OP. r/CAguns is a great resource for ccw and shops to avoid.

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