Bought a Kalashnikov USA KR-103 a few months ago. The rifle looks amazing ans is really fun to shoot but something really bothers me : I noticed that I was shooting consistently to the right. I put it on me at first because it's my first AK, but after a few hundred rounds and no improvement I decided to check the sights. Turns out the factory adjustment was off and I adjusted the front sight to the right like pic attached. Now the rifle shoots straight but having a misaligned front sight really pisses me off on a "premium" AK like this. Is this normal ? Should I RMA the rifle considering I don't live in the US and it would probably take months to get it fixed or replaced.
>KR-103
>not in the US
What in the goddamn, where?
France. I wanted a Saiga but since russian imports are banned this was the closest to the original.
>this was closest to the original
lmao what the frick i guess KUSA marketing works
you could have bought bulgarian, polish, romanian, any other combloc country gun and it would have been a better choice
Anon, what's the best deal between a 1000€ Arsenal SARM7 and a 1400€ stamped WBP Jack ?
NTA but Arsenal. It's milled but if you aren't a string bean you can handle the extra weight
Thanks Anon, I should be able to handle the extra weight without issue (lifting every day or so). I'll buy the arsenal soon then !
Bad idea but then again original Saigas have no straight surfaces either and shoot fine
>original Saigas have no straight surfaces either
citation needed.
I've got one
Old pic because I'm unfortunately at work. They're cheapo guns at heart even if everyone overpays like mad now
they are the default standard for what ak quality should at least be. I paid 550 euros for mine and that's how they are worth imho. Did you buy one post 2019 to complain about straight surfaces?
I overpaid in 2020 because I wanted a functional folding stock
But they should be €300 guns at best
>€300
be real, find me a new gun that sells for 300€ now or even back then that wasn't a single shot 12ga
Norinco AKs
You can still get them for €300 sometimes because the boomers still think it's 1993
you mean old imported norincos or the current SDM? cause those sdm obcenities are now the price of what a saiga was. and those unironically disassemble themselves if you rattle them strong enough.
literally every polymer striker fired handgun
PSA sells AR kits for 300, stripped lowers for 50
He's fricking right. My 104 was so hilariously out of specs when it cames to the muzzle face / threads that my gunsmith became insane trying to fix this shit. Mounting a suppressor on this mf would result in an immediate strike. AKs are AKs. A bad day for Ivan and even at a "muh Russian" factory you get a shit batch being produced.
I had no problem with mine mounting an ase utra, sounds like you got a post 2019 rifle.
They've always been inconsistent, just like Norinco rifles
Ok frog but if you want an AK, buying an AR is still not the solution
>They've always been inconsistent, just like Norinco rifles because I say so
sounds like you're coping from having bought a saiga during their shit period post 2019. I have owned 3 izhmash saiga rifles over the years and not a single one had any issue like the ones you see from american aks. the biggest issue I had was failure to feed with a .410 saiga. the other 2 a fixed stock 7,62x39 and a 308-1 were perfect.
>you're coping
But mine shoots well though, what's cope about it
It's wonky as hell but works fine, I think I have had 1 malfunction in 2500 rounds that wasn't a squib or me being a moron
the cope is thinking they must all be wonky when you experienced a sample size of 1. even KA ar15s have lemons, does that mean they are all like that? no. same with izhmash, they are perfect 95% of the time which is incredible for a russian product.
Who said I hadn't handled Saigas before I bought one? Because I have. The quality control especially on the earlier .223 models was spotty at best
I never told you to buy an ar moron
Try speaking a human language will you
>AKs are AKs
And here I tought after seeing you shit up /akg/ for months you couldn't embarass yourself further. LMAO
Embarassing ? Where you fricking Black person ? AKs are fricking AKs. Only in your autistic mind these potmetal rifles are made with perfect concentricity and tailored with suppressor use in mind from the get go. Piotr and the gang mass produce them according to whatever specs they have and if it's good to go with a standard muzzle brake it's good to go. Rifle is fine is not a meme, it's literally their mindset. They were never intended to be perfect hosts for WESTERN suppressors and their autistic quest for tight tolerances and ultra tight baffle stacks. Russians suppressors have at least the common sense of being loose as shit to deal with even the most crooked abomination around. Therefore you might end up on a rifle that align with your distinct western suppressor properly or you don't. My point was that Saigas are no exception. And you would know if you ever dealt with more than one, Black person.
Thank you for your anecdotal evidence. Now to actually provide meaningful content can you please provide a picture of the suppressor being mounted on your rifle with an alignment rod of the adapted caliber inside the barrel ? Because i had a friend that was under the impression that his shit was "fine" since he didn't noticed any kind of baffle or end cap strike after a couple hundred of rounds, until it happened and he blasted his endcap, and since he never put a rod in his shit he never realized that it wasn't centered from the get go in the slightest and that, with time, a little of flexing threw the suppressor out of the last remnant of alignment it had.
Pic related : after extensive gunsmithing this is what proper suppressor alignment looks like using a western flowthrough can.
The alignment rod is not 100% centered. Good enough? Probably. 8, 9, and 10 o'clock has less space than 2, 3, and 4 o'clock.
I have not shot let alone zeroed my saiga 308 in a while, but the front sight is about the same distance as OP but to the left. I hit steel two times in a row at 250 yards offhand though. No complaints for me.
If you are actually swiss, I'm curious about your guns laws as well. Are full autos available? Do you need a license, and then you can buy whatever?
One of these days I'll proofread before posting.
> Are full autos available? Do you need a license, and then you can buy whatever?
Yes, yes and yes.
That being said outside of that it's ass. I wish we could go shoot in the wild but we can't. It is how it is.
Interesting. Do you have outdoor ranges at least? I hate indoor ranges with a passion.
what's the point in owning a full auto if you have so much red tape around it, it's like buying an expensive paperweight.
>Only in your autistic mind these potmetal rifles are made with perfect concentricity and tailored with suppressor use in mind from the get go.
You were saying exactly this before you got your suppressor though
But I forgive you because you admitted you were wrong
>France
jesus, you could've bought literally anything else. the one thing you should never buy american is their aks, they are literally worse than SDM.
KUSA was supposed to be different though. it's not a reverse engineered American ak, they're built from the original plans.
>they're built from the original plans.
even if you have the same coffee beans and know the proper ratio, shit wont turn out the same when one was brewed in an 10000 dollar espresso machine and the other was made in a microwave.
>KUSA was supposed to be different though
Any company that invest so much money in marketing will never make a good product.
>they are literally worse than SDM
now hold on a minute, most every American AK is bad, but not ALL of them disintegrate or explode from minimal use
>but not ALL of them disintegrate or explode from minimal use
Neither do SDM as they have to comply with CIP standards, that slovakian youtuber also did some videos on them. they are basically the minimum quality so that they won't explode on you but for the rest they have shit fit and finish and can rattle apart.
Here both me and a friend bought a pair of them when we started doing dynamic shooting since ammo would be cheap and we wouldn't feel guilty about never cleaning them or dragging them trough the gravel etc. but we did that when they were 200-300 euros. now they retail for 750-800 euros which is absurd and only newbies with a fresh license fall for that. the only SDM rifles worth buying are the ndm86 which they import every blue moon and the chinese service rifle that is okayish.
>which is absurd and only newbies with a fresh license fall for that
I wouldn't buy an SDM at any price but I never understood the "hurr durr you overpaid if you bought a gun in 202x". Every commodity is more expensive after the coof, how were new hobbyists supposed to know they should have been born 20 years earlier?
it's different. every fricking new license on the range and online here gets told to not buy those sdm since they are shit and they could just buy ex full auto romanian or bulgarian or whatever other ak. or even just buy a saiga for 1200 when some boomer sells it. overpriced but at least it's better than SDM. Yet most people who buy them don't even do a bit of research, they just go into the armory and choose a sdm "cause it had skullz on it brooo" "it said "soviet" brooo.
Also if you really want an sdm just buy it used, the used market is overflowing with them.
>they could just buy ex full auto romanian or bulgarian or whatever other ak
This is different from country to country, mine implemented the directive full force so you can't have these anymore
>mine implemented the directive full force so you can't have these anymore
Ah yeah sorry.
>is this normal
on AKs yes
>i don't live in the US
where do you live? please don't say europe. why the frick did you buy a KUSA?
If you can i would take advantage of the warranty. If you dont want to do that or send it to a smith to correct you could just buy an adjustable rear sight leaf and make your side horizontal adjustments there and center the front post.
where do you live that has KUSA rifles? they couldn't even import them to the EU as is due to them not passing CIP testing 2 times straight.
You shot a rifle for months without zeroing it and wondered why it was off are you moronic? Dont ever trust a "factory sighting" for anything other than getting you on paper.
how the frick do you not notice that within 2 seconds of looking down the sights
That's after zeroing you tard
OMG, at least when an AR has a canted front sight, it's the rear peephole that's out to the side and you don't really have to stare it while aiming.
The consistently right-canted front sight seems to be a trend with KR-103s in particular.
Mine's the same way. It's plenty accurate and doesn't group weird or have any other fit and finish or functional issues though.
Gotta be something wonky with their manufacturing process where something's incorrectly calibrated.
Same with my AK - I just got a railed dust cover and mounted a scope.
Tes vraiment une merde d’avoir acheter la pire ak sur le marché français au pris le plus haut mdrrr, si tetait aussi déterminé a payer le double prix taurais pu acheter une saiga/izmash a un scalper au meme pris ou attendre que quelqu’un de normal vende la sienne a prix normal/ attendre que l’importation recommence.
> tldr: Sacrebleu , rendezvous voila bonne appétit a la croissant mon ami.
Pas OP, mais bon, tu as littérallement payé 3000€ pour une arme qui est vendue $2000 aux US, donc 1850€. Bref, en ce qui concerne d'être une merde, mort de rire.
La réalité c'est qu'en France on se fait enculer sur les prix. Si tu ne veux pas te faire niquer, tu n'achète pas d'armes.
Deja je l’ai payé 2500€ , et op ce con à acheter une ak103 américaine a 2000€,
Alors que une ak103 izmash russ ca vaut 900€ en vrais , mais avec l’embargo en russie tout les pays de l’est on profité pour augmenter leurs prix, au passage nimporte quelle ak des pays de l’est est largement meuilleur que sa ak américaine et ce à moitié prix.
Et en plus de ca , si op avait fait un minimum de recherche il aurrais trouver une izmash a 2k chez quelqu’un qui profite de la situation.
Either speak English or frick off to PrepHole to suck each other off in your memespeak.
t. Euro ESL
It's the typical french behaviour, while having an abhorrent language they will speak it in front of you due to their self esteem issues.
I have to cross the border with france often and I love speaking english to them, they will fake not knowing it but ater a few times you don't back down and keep speaking english they will magically start speaking it themselves.
Lmao im french and l have many customer who come from switzerland and germany , but bro if u don’t ask me if i speak german no way i will speak german to you homosexual , the only way for me to speak german to you without You asking is if i realy want to sell an item that no one wants to buy me.
English is ok because if you don’t speak English you are moronic ( in a wrong way)
start practicing instinctive aiming/shooting from the hip
That is not what a canted sight means you fricking moron, you literally just (finally) zeroed your rifle.
>noooooooo it's not perfectly centered, muh premium AK nooooooooooooooooooo
There is a damn REASON the windage adjustments exist, and go so far. Depending on the parts fit, there is 0 guarantee an assembled rifle will have its front sight post neatly centered in the FSB.
I've handled many actual military AKs over the years and they had a varying degree of this going on.
Shit, even on an M1 carbine sometimes you have to really crank the windage to get the rifle zeroed.
Yeah, mine actually has a slight cant but it was almost perfectly centered from the factory
I live in yurop, I have an actual Saiga MK103, it has a canted sight. I've seen actual Bulgarian Arsenals, they all have canted sights. I've seen Zastava, Romanian, Polish, Chinese, they all have canted sights.
I have never once seen in my life an AK that didn't require drifting the front sight one side to another. And yes, some of them have to be pushed quite far.
Then again, I have never seen an AR15 that didn't require sight adjustement either, I have had three of them, have shot many more, litterally all of them needed to drift the peep sight to one side.
This "american made AKs are total shit" meme really needs to die
All AKs are total shit
No. The only aks that reach the shittiness of KUSA and other american aks are nu-chink shit.
it's fine, just make sure you buy canted bullets