Can't one of the world's militaries spare a nuclear submarine to go get the guys trapped on the Titanic?
Can't one of the world's militaries spare a nuclear submarine to go get the guys trapped on the Titanic?
Can't one of the world's militaries spare a nuclear submarine to go get the guys trapped on the Titanic?
Yeah just daisy chain guys on oxygen tanks the few thousand feet difference needed to reach them.
It's 12,000 feet
Military subs can't go nearly as deep as these guys went
They have capabilities the military doesn't? How the frick?
Military submarines from my understanding are too large to go that deep as the pressure would kill the crew. That was the only submarine capable of going that depth. If it's stuck it's doomed sadly. Unless the Deep ones save them although that would just end in fish rape.
>that was the only submarine capable of going that depth
Not nearly close to being the only one, but there's none available in a timeframe that could allow them to get to the site, and they really couldn't help do much even if they found the stricken submarine.
There are other sub's that exist like Alvin that can go down there. Multiple sub's have visited it since the 80s.
However all the others willingly went through safety certifications and classification. This one did not and the CEO said the amount of safety regulated were obscene and stifled innovation. Since Titanic is in international waters, it doesn't have to have any certification to operate.
>the amount of safety regulated were obscene and stifled innovation
When you look at ultra redundancies and years of testing for safety and think you don't need it. That's just asking for something to go wrong.
>the CEO said the amount of safety regulated were obscene and stifled innovation.
He also didn't hire people with experience because he wanted to be 'inspirational'.
Honestly the ceo deserves dying over his fricking hubris
What's this from?
The Abyss, a James Cameron film
Thanks
I don't believe in karma but I do have a wary respect for a kind of green weenie/murphy's law/greek morality tale of hybris. The truth is just that hubris makes you overlook simple errors with major ramifications but it sure feels like 'fate' going
>Haha frick you homie fricked around and found out
Logitech game controller works best with Doritos on your fingers.
>That was the only submarine capable of going that depth.
There are plenty of other subs that can go that deep.
The Titan was lost because it was practically a makeshift design that cut cost for every single safety regulation there is in place for these kinds of subs.
that fact that it even made it down and back a few times is crazy
Sometimes the universe strikes those who do stupid stuff right away, other times it waits. Honestly this might be one of those times you must think if their is a god, he must have a sense of humor.
lmao in the interviews he seems proud of using the cheap Madcatz controller, as if he's flexing how he did it with such simple components unlike those fancy scientists and their subs crammed to the brim with buttons and control panels.
the whole thing was done using off the shelf components (
) not just the controllers: sewer pipes, rhino liner, etc
It was deep see submersible vehicles done on the cheap and it still cost 5 million plus and apparently the fees for going down there ony barely covered fuel costs.
It was a logitech controller, you idiot. A remote control one, too. I've got the same model. It runs on batteries as opposed to usb supplied power. What happened was the controller ran out of battery and the sub had no way of controlling itself. Because this happened during the descent phase, the sub was still loaded with ballast and unable to dump it.
Nta but I refuse to believe it was that simple, because that would mean they didn't have a spare controller on hand. Or fricking spare batteries. There are limits on how much of a cheap frick you can be, surely someone would have pointed that out.
>There are limits on how much of a cheap frick you can be
there are absolutely no limits to human depravity
He did claim they had spares, but they're just as shit as the first one and probably just can't connect
>There are limits on how much of a cheap frick you can be, surely someone would have pointed that out.
The one dude that did was fired by the company/CEO and sued them for wrongful termination and settled it out of court.
Believe me, there is no limit to how much of a cheap frick some people can be.
If the sub did lose power in any way that left the crew alive until asphixiation, I really hope they had a chance to write down what happened.
>Captain's log, sea date June 19th:
>This piece of shit controller I bought 7 years ago has crapped out on me.
>My idiot co-pilot was supposed to pack spare batteries but he says he already changed them yesterday and saw no need for spares
>I knew I shouldn't have used the controller to play 6 hours of COD before the dive...
Kekked
There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that. There were any number of possible points of failure
>verification not required
sauce?
so let me get this straight
you freedived into the sub
and instead of saving the people you decide to save the controller ?
why dont you believe him anon? he clearly knows better
No moron, I'm saying I've got the same model. It's an F710. It uses a USB dongle that you plug into a computer to set up. The connection process is finicky. Sometimes it just won't work unless you spend 2 hours googling to find out you need to remove and redownload the drivers.
Its shit also
That's right. It's bad even when it works. High input lag and a large deadzone. The sticks tend to come lose and wiggle around. The face buttons are stiff and have a lot of travel.
I'm straight up 1000% sure the boomer CEO who got the controller didn't know a thing about troubleshooting it when it goes on the fritz.
riiiight im sure the boomer ceo that bought the same joystick the u.s military also uses didnt know about it..
however thats irrelevant because simply put the boomer ceo had 7 redudancy ways of removing the ballast and come up and all of them were being controlled by a single system......
but hey its the joystick's problem right?
The US military uses dualshock controllers, last time I checked. The US military also doesn't game controllers to control vehicles that people fricking ride in.
>but hey its the joystick's problem
Right now it's the problem of 5 people, if you wanna get specific.
? the US military uses xbox controllers, and wired ones at that, not a shitty wireless controller. They're also never used on critical systems. There's a long list of shit that could've caused it but the controller does belong on there, even if I think it's more probably that other stuff caused it.
AFAIK it's mostly wired xbox controllers, don't know where you got dualshocks from
> There's a long list of shit that could've caused it but the controller does belong on there,
name a single thing that it could have done so that would have preventing them from venting the ballast
? the ballast could've been otherwise stuck on there and if the controller was dead they wouldn't have been able to power their way up.
the ballast being released has nothing to do with the joystic.....
Prove it, moron. You've repeatedly made claims that were proven untrue before. Why should anyone believe you now?
it LITERALLY had only one system moron
the joystick was only operation FW aft left right
and the rest were automatically being monitored by the system via the 2 touch screens
ALSO acoording to him they had 3 spares inside along with battery life of 7 days
maybe you had spend 10 mins of your life to see his own video touring the thing you would have known about it
Here's the thing. I've used the f710 controller. You haven't. I actually know that if the controller decides to frick with your life, switching controllers or batteries doesn't guarantee a fix. It could very well be a result of a bug in the drivers that requires at best a system restart and at worst a manual uninstall/reinstall of the drivers. They probably didn't keep back up drivers on a usb stick and who knows if restarting the computers during a dive may or may not have dire consequences.
system was running on mint, it's likely a FOSS/generic driver and probably a good bit more reliable than the 1st party windows ones
for reference, you need a translation layer on windows to get a dual shock 3 working, on linux it's a native driver built right into most kernels
It's an x-input/d-input controller. Both are commonly supported formats on windows, especially since x-input was made by Microsoft. But that's not the problem I was getting at. It's getting the controller to connect with the dongle that can be a pain. The first time is the hardest, but after that and the system remembers the controller, it can get finicky if you try to use a different one.
Worse still, even if there's a solid connection, sometimes the wireless transmission fricks up and you get an input being repeated for a few seconds. In games this would mean something like spinning on the spot for a while, or a gun firing repeatedly without the trigger being pressed. It was surprisingly common in my experience. Being near other wireless devices like phones made it more likely to happen.
>Worse still, even if there's a solid connection, sometimes the wireless transmission fricks up and you get an input being repeated for a few seconds.
>A single hardware malfunction causes your sub to slam head first into the bow of the titanic because the motor kept receiving 'AXIS_0+'
really sounds like a windows problem but i dunno
i used to own a f510 or whatever version came before that and it worked good, even on windows
nobody FRICKING CARES WHAT YOU DO moron
I accept your concession, b***h.
Audibly seething
>i ask to provide any sort of problem the joystick might have caused
>WELL HERE IS THE THING I OWN IT AND I KNOW WHAT IM TALKINGA BOUT YARA YARA
>otherwise stuck on there
READ YOU DUMBASS READ
yes im sure they didnt know they waited for the /k/ tourist to find out
fricking idiot
>Didn't bring spare batteries
I guess Das Boat is their fav movie whilst going down & they sing along Yellow Submarine to keep their (dying) spirits alive - hv a nice death you stupid frickers
>Das Boat
Yeah, what an idiot for not knowing that it's called The Boot.
turdie education
The "procedure" is to have 3 spares on hand.
Any moron worth half their salt would have the ballasts mounted on dead-man electromagnets
I'm imagining the depth charge scene from Das Boot, except for instead of jamming dish rags into the bursting pipes, Chucklefrick keeps pressing the "connect" buttons on the controller and receiver just enough at different times so they wont sync up
no it was lost because he wanted a single system to control everything with no manual override
james cameron was right on insisting his sub should have the primary system on their own isolated circuitry based on the rov that gabe newell has
So it was lost due to being a makeshift design that cut costs for one particular safety regulation, got it.
I don't believe that twitter screenshot for a second. It's just too good bullshit /misc/ propaganda.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12219265/Stockton-Rush-said-didnt-hire-50-year-old-white-guys-NOT-inspirational.html
Well shit. You can't blame me for being skeptical though.
It’s okay anon. It’s sounds so stupid it’s hard to believe it’s real.
Welcome
You have much to learn
He's literally on video saying it
thought the same thing, but the CEO was legitimately that fricking moronic
Thats because it is. It's fake news rage bait bullshit that pol is addicted to because they are in a constant state of rage and unhappiness
Literally everything in that post is true and five minutes of research would confirm it, when will you learn?
>That was the only submarine capable of going that depth
Nig it's 13000 ft not km, Jim Cameron had descended to the Mariana trench a few years ago.
>Military submarines
There are 'parasite' submersibles that can be piggy backed on full sized subs that can go pretty damn deep with bigger crews than the carbon fiber jank one in question; it's more an issue of not having a compatible docking port to extract them from and/or towing ability to drag their candy asses back to more efficient towing methods' depth.
>That was the only submarine capable of going that depth
There is at least another, the Limiting Factor, and it's owned by none other than Gabe Newell
Scientific subs are designed to survive much more crushing depths than military subs are, that's just how it is
all deep sea submersibles are small for a reason. Military subs are just too big, and also need to be built for things other than ultra specialization in diving deep
>They have capabilities
Clearly, they didn't since they are all (possibly) dead.
Nuckear subs are huge. They have lots of holes for stuff like torpedoes, missiles, periscopes, sensors, etc. They have to be able to go fast. They're full of seamen. You can't build something like that strong enough to go super deep, plus you're already far enough under the water there isn't a lot of point to trying.
Military subs dive to 600-900M. Deep sea research subs have gone as deep as 10,000M, this particular one was going to around 4,000M. When you're dealing with really deep subs your entire crew compartment ends up being a steel sphere only big enough to hold 2-3 dudes. I don't know how many submersibles in the world are capable of reaching the Titanic, but I'd guess it's only a handful currently operating.
>That was the only submarine capable of going that depth.
>Implying it was cable of going that depth
>They're full of seamen
Just like your mom
In fact, the only selling point of this "Titan" vessel was that its design allowed it to accommodate more people than any other DSV currently in operation.
Aside from the Titan there are definitely a couple of Triton submersibles capable of going this deep (but I'm not sure all of these are subs that already exist or are only planned). The Chinese also have a couple of DSVs including one which has gone to the Mariana Trench.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSV_Limiting_Factor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striver_(bathyscaphe)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSV_Alvin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSV_Shinkai_6500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiaolong_(submersible)
>the Chinese also have one which has gone to the Mariana Trench
decades after the west did it, classic.
Pavlovian response
It's important to mention that the Alvin is a US Navy vessel and an absolute workhorse. So the military absolutely had the capacity and has massively used it.
It's crazy to me that moronic journalists like this guy claim the Titan is anything more than a hobbyist vehicle which is hardly a work of genius, and simply makes use of materials that didn't exist back in the 1960s (when Alvin was made).
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It is clear so much more brain power went into DSV Alvin than Titan.
painfully new
underage b&
I don't think they were supposed to
us navy has unmanned subs that can go to 19k
Don't militaries have rescue subs that can go deeper? Of course then you run into the issue of how to transport them from one to the other.
Not 4000 meters deep
Rescue subs go as deep as the rest of their submarines go, no reason to go deeper
Submarines can't sink to the ocean floor?
If a sub sinks to the bottom it gets crushed by pressure, no need for rescue
Kursk didn't. The crew were alive for a few hours after the accident IIRC?
It was 100 m deep.
>they all died in a 100m deep water
every single day i get amazed by russian capabilities
Could anyone have made it to the surface if they had opened the hatch and let it flood, then tried to escape?
Easily. Especially if you have something that floats to pull you up.
Decompression sickness
That only happens if you're breathing pressurized air. People deep dive to well over 300 feet and it isn't an issue
800 meters is 2600 feet
the sudden change in pressure will kill you
The shitty thing about the kursk was they were 100% rescuable. Putin just let them die because accepting help from the US would have been too embarassing and doing so would have shown that Russia had no capability to rescue them.
Wasn't it also the case that the Russians purposefully gave the foreign rescue divers wrong advice to sabotage their efforts?
Sssshh go to sleep, anon
UNDER THE Z
UNDER THE Z
Different ship but same song and dance.
Fun fact: They died in the water less deep than the sub was long.
...why? Let the billionaires provide their own rescue.
This, they got into the shit, now they sink or swim
They just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Pressure. They need to breath the shit like in The Abyss.
What would the nuclear submarine even do if they were even able to find them?
Shoot a torpedo at them?
Strap on and haul them up dipshit
>Strap on
ah yes, let's open the hatch at 12,000 feet deep and tie a rope around er. That'll do.
Just shoot out cables with magnetic ends
>magnetic
Sorry anon, the thing is made of carbon fiber and titanium. It's not gonna stick to a magnet.
Titanium is metal moron
yes anon, yes it is. So are diamonds and those don't stick to magnets either.
Titanium sticks to magnets.
No
Diamonds aren't metal
literally everyone knows diamond is the hardest metal known to man.
It's carbon. I feel like this is an elaborate troll
Due to extensive research done by the University of Pittsburgh, diamond has been confirmed as the hardest metal known to man. The research is as follows:
Pocket-protected scientists built a wall made of iron and crashed a diamond car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed. They then built a wall out of diamond and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an hour into the wall, and the wall came out fine. They then crashed a diamond car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors. They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond travelling at iron car. Western New York was powerless for hours. They rammed a wall made of metal into 400 miles an hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted earths orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards mid-western Prussia at 400 billion miles an hour. They shot a diamond made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused over 10000 wayward planes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with over 10000 buildings in downtown New York. They spun 400 miles at diamond into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive. Finally, they placed 400 diamonds per hour in front of a car made of wall travelling at miles per iron, and the result proved with out a doubt that diamonds were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known to man.
This shit is fricking ancient.
O makes sense. I stopped going to /b/ in '07
just lurk a few more years before posting again
>elaborate
>lying about diamonds being the hardest metal known to man when EVERYONE knows that dragonforce is the hardest metal known to man
They're the hardest metal known THE man, not to man. Also King Diamond is the hardestest metal, Dragonfarce is for homos.
moron
still not magnetic silly, only iron and derivatives are magnetic
You do know the term "ferro-magnetic" metals?
Then just use a tube attached to hr cable that has suction cups on the end.
This event has shined a bright spotlight on just how truly fricking dumb a lot of you people are. Do they just not teach middle school earth science anymore? What the frick is going on in schools now?
and what does your middle school science suggest to rescue them?
Right, because all submarines have little robot arms to do rescue operations of other, smaller subs, or do you plan on attaching the nuclear sub to the little one?
Do you think any navy with a nuclear submarine is gonna risk a nuclear submarine by attaching it to a smaller sub that might be stuck and cannot be pulled out?
Right, let me just develop this wonderful technology in less than an hour and rescue the intrepid explorers from their watery grave.
>strap on
Wow read some stuff about water pressure, moron
Woah, did you blow in from stupid town?
>Titanic feasts on the corpses of the rich once again
Pottery
imagine the smell currently into the submarine
They'll be mummified, provided the pressure vessel didn't just rupture.
They will still rot surely, Bacteria will still be able to break the bodies down, they will just turn into a sludgy mess. There will still be enough oxygen there for them to decompose, and some bacteria won't even need it.
The sub will still be full of piss and shit at this point. Probably vomit too.
Just be grateful none of the occupants were women. She could have been raped by the desperate men who know they're at the end.
>The search for the missing submersible Titan has broadened to an area about two times the size of Connecticut.
How many ships do they have out there right now searching?
This is like trying to find a microscopic needle in a football field, seems like a fools errand to me
Multilateral cooperation with multiple agencies involved, certainly cost a lot too.
Most military subs don't go below 700m. The basketball sized chunk of carbon fiber and bone that's left of that sub is at like 3800m
>>Haha frick governments let's ignore any and all safety rules to build the shittiest cheapest submarine we can
>>OH NO OUR SHITTY SUB BROKE WHY WON'T THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD COME SAVE US
Frick em.
>WHY WON'T THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD COME SAVE US
To be fair they haven't asked that. Because they're all dead.
True libertarian spirit of daring capitalism.
Suck it up, commie.
a cheap piece of shit, dressing it up as MUH INNOVATION, and crying for help the moment the obvious consequences of your actions show up
Yes, it really is the true spirit.
>and crying for help
Again, that didn't happen. The guy is dead. He didn't ask anybody to come save him, because like the other passengers the CEO is a stain on the ocean floor.
then who was making the banging noise?
me frickin your mom
The ghosts of the Titanic
Dagon.
I wouldn't worry about it
Carrion crustaceans doing "Under Da Sea" as they scavenge the bodies
the sperm whale shoving its dick into its new fleshlight
BANG BANG BANG
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
THEN WHO WAS BANG?
>any ship doing anything from dozens of miles away because that’s how water acoustics work
>tectonic activity
>currents and sea life disturbing the titanic wreck
>ice and/or debris colliding
Pick one or all of these
It will turn out to be some ransom scrap of metal on the Titanic itself banging against something in the current. Something like in that movie "On the Beach"
The fair folk.
This really is a great way to showcase why lolberts are moronic
Needs to be made into a cartoon. Interesting how /misc/ is trying to spin this as "diversity hires fricking up" when the actual reason is "lolbertarians being smug morons"
It's both really
The lolbertarianisn is what made him cheap out on getting fresh grads to be "inspirational"
In a promotional video the CEO guy admits to forgoing ex-navy 'old white guys' in favour of younger generation with a 'vision'.
I didn't know lolberts were into positive discrimination.
They're in favor of cutting costs, which hiring fresh grads will do
I think he was just lying about the reason to look good to certain people
the company was filled with white people
When he says "we want to attract younger workers with [buzzword]" what he meant is "I want a workforce that can build what I want but lacks the real world experience to raise safety concerns because I know this bullshit is a minimally viable product".
Realistically if he wasn't on the thing his life would be effectively over at this point. He broke the rule that Madoff broke, he fricked with rich people.
I was thinking the other why would you would risk cheaping out when your clientele is exclusively the very wealthy
Yeah that's what makes it so stupid.
Anyone who would pay a quarter of a million to go see the titanic will pay more to go see the titanic. You don't need to be cheap with this shit. Your clientele is specifically a group with more money than they can ever spend in their lives and wouldn't bat an eyelash and spending more. At least don't use a fricking wireless controller to drive a submarine 12,000 ft into the abyss.
>When he says "we want to attract younger workers with [buzzword]" what he meant is "I want a workforce that can build what I want but lacks the real world experience to raise safety concerns because I know this bullshit is a minimally viable product".
Nah if he himself doubted the safety of it, he wouldn't have gone in it. He's one of the people currently trapped under the sea. what we're seeing is exactly lobertian hubris.
>Haha, I am a Nitzchean superman! A Randian Ideal Man! Safety regulations are for lesser beings! They're only a way for governments to steal money off Job Creators and stifle innovation! No Gods, no mas-ACK
And then he found out exactly why Rapture was a moronic idea.
>Nah if he himself doubted the safety of it, he wouldn't have gone in it.
Do we know if he did that on previous missions?
Because one of the people who had booked a ticket canceled on safety grounds after doing some research and urged the other people on board to do the same.
My overimaginative mind instantly conjures up a scenario in which moron CEO guy decides to pilot the ghetto sub himself to convince the passengers that it's totally safe.
That cartoon was made by a person who still wears a mask everywhere they go and tells everyone to trust the science
what's with the mask hate?
for one i would still wear them if i would not stand out like sore thumb doing so...
being face ided by camera on every street corner is really uncomfortable for me...
>Interesting how /misc/ is trying to spin this as "diversity hires fricking up" when the actual reason is "lolbertarians being smug morons"
Why not both?
So true.
I am surprised there hasn’t been more of a discussion of “who wins in the sub battle royal/how would you win?”
They've got right at 5 hours of air left.
Their Oxygen Timer:
https://countingdownto.com/countdown-pages/bY5rKTzD
If they didn't implode the moment surface lost contact with them at least.
The most tragicomic part about this submarine is that even if they successfully resurfaced and made it to shore somehow, they'd still be on an Oxygen timer because the only way to open and close the submarine is from the outside by bolting/unbolting the hatch open.
They could be on the surface and still die of suffocation because there's no way for them to escape the air-tight submarine.
Bet the rich ass CEO wishes he splurged on some actual engineers right about now
Nah, better to hire laqueeysha. More government gibs this way.
The government definitely wasn't paying for any of this
That's what the emergency gaff hook is for, or your mates skull.
Could it really break a window designed to resist the crushing weight of innumerable liters of water above them?
I never said they should leave the sub and allow it to sink, but staying inside the sub after their oxygen has run out means death either way.
If they opened the hatch, they'd die from the sub sinking and resulting hypothermia, anon. Of all the dumb decisions to criticize them over, the inability to kill themselves via sinking the sub if it does resurface isn't one of them.
That almost happened with the Pisces III.
Military subs generally can't go that deep
Someone needs to get Gabe to lend his sub to the operation
Gabe is watching his competitor sink, doubt he’ll jump in after him
>distant are you waiting for a miracle plays as gaben descends to rescue the sub, provided they purchase games during the next summer sale
>Be billionaire
>IN 1912
>Board the Titanic with your spouse and die a watery death, leaving your fortune for your descendants
>101 years later your stupid billionaire descendants boarded a death trap to see the Titanic
>They died where you died
Just picture this just a bunch of dudes just down on the bottom of the sea floor just frickin in this little tube. Just mass amounts of cum and shit and piss just filling it up to the brim as they just slide in and out of each other on the ocean floor. God just imagine being the rescuer getting to that sub on the ocean floor watching all them frick through that little porthole I’d love to there I probably couldn’t stop jerking off if I saw that. I can’t be the only one thinking this. Does anyone think that they all just resorted to having some steamy hot gay butt sex in full view of all the fish down there? Are they blue balling all my buddies down there? I just imagine all of them just engaging in some hot manhattan assplay or Cincinnati crevice crashing. So many hot and sexy things they can be doing doing down there and nobody is talking about it.
Stop schizo posting.
You're a submarine.
You fire torpedoes at ships and/or missiles.
Both require you to be near the surface.
Decompression sickness means they can't surface quickly if they're too deep.
So, going too deep negatively affects the ability of a submarine to perform it's mission. It has almost no benefit.
Why do morons like you think decompression sickness affects the people inside the pressurized sub?
Let this event be a lesson to everyone that Sea Boys are the same sort of red flags as Horse Girls
But what about the sea men?
Marine traffic radars are showing all of the search vessels have stopped search patterns and the Atalante had an "unknown vessel" signal pop up near it, as if it launched something. Did the madlads find something
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah-nagl fhtagn
ah, cyd-Gymro. Sut ydych chi?
What the hell would it do?
It's not a fricking star destroyer, it doesn't have a hangar bay.
Deploy an ROV on a tether, hook the sub and lift it up.
Fire cables that connect to the sub and haul it to the surface
This is the toliet
I am now contemplating the aroma.
>about to start the dive
>"NEVER flush the toilet when we're underwater"
>someone forgot and flushed
This is what happened.
moronic r*ddit frog thread
So every big boy DSV has some kind of failsafe, like if the power goes out or it spends too much time in the water it'll drop ballast and float to the surface. Does this cuck tube not have that feature? That seems downright suicidal.
that would have cost too much
It has all kinds of failsafes, including a droppable ballast
Anon their ballast is pipes hanged on hooks. They fricking lean the sub to one side to drop it, I wish I were joking.
The news has covered this a lot. The titan sub is classified as "experimental" in order for it to bypass all the rules and regulations of submersible vehicles. It lacks a lot of redundancy features.
Why didn't they just use a better controller /k/?
If they wanted to spend a reasonable amount of cash in making a safer submarine they'd have had to start over with a design that isn't a submergible coffin.
nuclear subs don't go anywhere near as deep as that sub
this is another one of those 'God punishing man for his hubris' moments, isn't it
No, just consequences of one's own actions
God didn't need to do anything in this case but permit the inevitable to take place. The submersible in question is an experimental piece of crap made by incompetents who were hired for their age, gender and ethnic identity rather than actual competence. The CEO wanted to push his progressive bullshit, now he'll slowly suffocate on the sea floor in a metallic coffin as a result. The boring old white guys who actually care about safety regulations and contingency plans win again.
>ina 2021 Interview Rush reportedly claimed that he liked to "cover myself in oil and slide around the sub like a seal".
Why would anyone trust this weirdo with their lives?
They're dead. And I don't care.
Can someone edit wings of redemption in the sub, throwing his controller against the wall breaking it?
Wings won’t fit into the sub. 🙁
helb!1!! :´(
Hurray, they were saved!
So, are assuming they have survived this long. Have they been drinking their own pee to survive?
They're right at the theoretical point where they are out of O2. Reality is they froze to death long ago as losing heat is the biggest most pressing issue.
Note there's been no serious rescue attempt since no one has that capacity and wouldn't even know what to do if they found them. No one wants to admit that so they did some half-assed "listening" on the surface. No one realistically could mobizize a rescue before they died anyways. Everyone just accept they're doomed.
>most pressing issue
4000m of ocean water begs to differ.
CARLOS I KNOW IT'S YOU
>Reality is they froze to death long ago as losing heat is the biggest most pressing issue.
i think the most pressing issue is that they literally got turned into paste the moment the sub imploded
They should nuke the ocean to boil all the water away. That way they can find the sub, and always nab some tuna probably.
water beats nukes
if you just detonate underwater the water pressure stops most of the explosion
what about a hydrogen bomb
hydro = water after all
>Not using an OUYA controller
Literally asking for trouble.
SSBNs are EVEN LESS capable of diving to extreme depths than this piece of shit. The Ohio-class have a depth limit of around 1,000 feet, plus an additional 500 or so before they hit crush depth. Russian, British, and French subs would all have a comparable depth limit, if not less. Titanic is over 10 times that far down.
No frick off - really pleased the Frog Mr Titanic, thief, desecrator of 1500 souls, arrogant fricker is hopefully dead via the most nasty horrible death. Serves this arrogant fricker right for stealing from the dead, the 1500 souls have their revenge, oh so so sweet ….. 100 years later & The Titanic is still claiming the lives of foolish frickers with more money than sense - just magical die you nasty greedy Frog grave robbing bastard
>No frick off - really pleased the Frog Mr Titanic, thief, desecrator of 1500 souls, arrogant fricker is hopefully dead via the most nasty horrible death. Serves this arrogant fricker right for stealing from the dead, the 1500 souls have their revenge, oh so so sweet ….. 100 years later & The Titanic is still claiming the lives of foolish frickers with more money than sense - just magical die you nasty greedy Frog grave robbing bastard
Much like Wagner Group at Khasham, he fricked around and found out.
>quoting the entire post
>obnoxious avatargayging
lurk moar newbie
Seething
>Ancient wrecked ship claiming the life of thieves wanting to steal from it
Ghost Ship remake with Mr Titanic and the Titanic when?
Too deep.
I wonder why there arent more drone type unmanned subs though. They could surely go to any depth as they dont need air.
This image in a way makes me sad. I hadn't paid much attention to this story, beyond the fact that a deep sea submersible owned by a private individual was missing. As a kid I was obsessed with shipwreck exploration. I read and watched everything I possibly could, even wrote a letter to Robert Ballard. So naturally I wished the people aboard this sub well, and hoped they would be found and safely rescued because I understand the desire to explore the mysteries of the ocean floor and see things that few will ever have a chance to visit.
Then I started reading about the circumstances surrounding the loss of the sub, and the more I read the more I began to hate them for squandering the opportunity of a lifetime in the name of cost-cutting and goddamn woke virtue signaling.
It's their fault that i'm laughing at this and I hate them for it.
>and goddamn woke virtue signaling
Sounds like pol got to you a little.
I don't need to visit pol to see this shit every single day. Dumb Black folk and woefully underqualified women placed in positions far beyond their ability to manage while everyone else is forced to pick up their slack and suffer the consequences, just because it looks good to have them on staff. The goddamn press secretary for the President of the United States sounds like some ghetto hoodrat for Christ sake. Her only fricking job is to express the opinions of the person she represents with something resembling a high school understanding of English grammar and she consistently fails to manage even that.
>Dumb Black folk and woefully underqualified
>The goddamn press secretary for the President of the United States sounds like some ghetto hoodrat for Christ sake
Sounds like pol really got you good. I've seen more than a few press briefings for the white house. Karine Jean-Pierre is a well spoken woman. I still remember the couple of times when journos from africa were mouthing off at her for not giving them more question time and she'd gracefully tell them off.
Not that guy, but you have to literally be mentally moronic not to recognize what he's talking about. It's not just token stuff anymore, like back in the early 2000s, it literally saturates every layer of society, with media and tech being affected the most. In fact, it's so extreme that it's actually hard to find examples where it's not the case, unless we're talking about such ridiculously specialized fields that it's impossible to hire people who aren't qualified, but even here they're trying, often with disastrous results.
The issue with /misc/ is that none of them give a shit about this, because they're either shills, schizos or conspiracy theorists. When it's brought up these days, it's purely for the sake of discrediting or insulting the west or demoralizing white "conservatives", rather than discussing a problem that needs a solution.
It's one thing that you think that in a vague and general sense, but this guy was letting it get to him and seeing it where it didn't exist.
He simply hired zoomers out of college because of cost cutting + experienced people telling him his project was unsafe
>goddamn woke virtue signaling
I guarantee you it was a cost cutting measure, experienced people are expensive anon.
Generally I agree, and the whole "no 50 year old white guys because it isn't inspiring" is just cheap bullshit and cost/safety cutting. It's sad they are probably dead, but an important reminder that safety protocols are in place for a reason, even if it is expensive.
It wasn’t woke bullshit it was him covering cost cutting and finding the only people who’d actually be desperate enough to take the job at shit pay. The man was a major GOP donor.
Change the black guy to 2 pakistani guys and it would be more appropriate.
Is he not light enough, Mohammed?
Look them up you lazy c**t. They're almost white passing.
Good morning Britain
I knew it.
Thanks to these brave souls we finally have proof that R'lyeh has Weapons of Mass Destruction. We need to invade to make sure the Deep Ones can enjoy democracy and cats named Black person for all.
What's with all the talks of oxygen? For all we know they just cut connection and disappeared. Which sounds more like, I don't know, implosion?
Yes but it's funnier to pretend that didn't happen and have this epic countdown until they most definitely run out of oxygen.
>that pic
This is what eccentric billionaires build to explore the deep sea. Oceangate dude wasn't an eccentric, he was terminally moronic.
He was a GOP doner so definitely on the lower end of the i.q scale
Source? Funny if real.
https://newrepublic.com/post/173829/oceangate-ceo-missing-titanic-sub-history-donating-gop-candidates
>cutting regulations is a good th-AAAAACK
o i am laffin
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>old washing machine mechanism
>fridge
>water heater
>some caseless pc
>wadrobe shelf
>washing mashine
>weights from a local gym
JFC
Shouldn't look classy, it should be functional. And it is, took James Cameron all the way down to the Mariana trench and back. Also, unlike Titan, it has a fricking seat
What's the top picture from? it looks fricking dope
I believe it's from Disney's Atlantis
God damn Atlantis was kino, I even got one of those cereal box toys. No clue what happened to it.
Since we have no idea what happened to them, the oxygen discussions are based on the assumption the craft is intact but immobilised, and the craft was apparently designed for 96 hours life support with a full compliment, though some doubt that because of CO2 scrubbing capacity not being displayed. It could all be moot, it could have imploded early on with a snap of the fingers, but since we don't know we speculate.
And that's if they weren't lying about the oxygen reserve as well. Nothing's gonna happen, brah, we'll be back in 4 hours tops.
it lets the media have extra clicks and views if they drag it out for a week with oxygen countdowns and ''banging sounds''. pretty much every expert has said in as many words theyre already dead and likely died instantly
It's just hopium.
Also the media tries to keep the story alive for as much as possible.
https://infogram.com/ned-9330-titan-sub-countdown-timer-1h8n6m3dkyp9z4x
1 hour and 16 minutes left until all hope is lost, boiiiiiii.
Nu/k/lear subs i do not think can reach as deep as exploration vehicles. Too much shit that they need to have (icbm's, torpedos ecc) installed. Also they have to have actually livable quarters (exploration sub is meant to be used for about a day maybe 2, a nu/k/lear sub is supposed to stay underwater for months
so concessions to comfort must be made , like installing *ack*tual toilets
>pic inhallated, ) .
All this reduces the THICCness of the subs walls.
The Tresher nu/k/lear sub had about 400meters Test depth (maximum depth is much lower then that however going that low might cause the sub to need repairs sooner due to the preassure cycles being more intense, and can cause some systems to fail prematurely). I have no doubt that a modern sub unlike the USSTresher can have much better Test depths but i would be suprised if they have a maximum depth of beyond a /k/ilometer
The exploration subs can have Test depths of multiple /K/ilometers. And maximums beyond.
Please do not "WarThunder Forum" this tread to prove me wrong. Im just taking a wild guess .but if you have more public info or even some autistic math please share.
>TLDR; IMO 4000 meters is beyond the maximum survivable depth of any nuclear sub
The Enterprise could scan for lifeforms and beam them out.
They can't die like this. It can't end this way
>t. passenger freezing to death in the water on April 15, 1912
B i g g e s t
R I P
toggaf
They may be gone but they will always be in our hearts
>They may be gone but they will always be in our memes
ftfy
All of our military mights and technological prowess and.we couldn't save these people. I feel demoralized
there just has to be some way, some extra oxygen that we dont know about, and there's still time to save them
There is, actually. The 96 hour figure was given based on regular metabolic rates for people. If the occupants conserved their energy by not talking, not moving and sleeping if possible, they could stretch it out.
Also if one of them killed the rest, they would have 16 days of air.
Thank you
Anon, whoever is left alive even if they weren't all mushed instantly is on death's door. It's been 4 days without water. And before you try and argue they're drinking each other's piss, that's not going to keep you alive longer than an extra day. It might make it worse, in fact. Unless they find them on the surface NOW, this second, and pry it open, they are all dead 100%. Personally, though it is morbid I hope the capsule is intact and it can be safely recovered so that I have extra material to read about when I am up at 1:30 AM on Wikipedia reading about random deathly tragedies
What about drinking blood?
Blood will not hydrate you. If anything it will dehyrate you, and likely make you sicker. You need water, plain old H2O. If they didn't bring some on the sub they are absolutely fricked, even if they had a magic machine that made Oxygen endlessly.
Personally I can't wait for the inevitable Plainly Difficult video to watch while I'm having breakfast.
A decomposing body takes more oxygen than a respiring one. Such math only works if you can flush the body out of the sub. And they're bolted in with no means of opening it from the inside, so good luck with that.
Bodies don't really start to decompose until 48 hours after death and that's assuming the ambient temperature isn't 2C, which it would be on that sub at the bottom of the ocean.
i legit feel bad for them. what a horrible way to go out
On the bright side, they almost certainly did NOT survive until this moment. It's very likely that they died instantly when the vessel imploded. The only real signs we have that they survived is some vague notion of sounds. We don't know what that constitutes, and officials are being intentionally vague. At one point during a press release it was stated "we don't know what it is, but we're looking at it."
What if the ascend/descend commands were bound to the triggers and he dropped the controller by accident breaking and jamming the descend trigger.
I think all movement was mapped to the joysticks, which might be more sketchy
Near, far, wherever you are
I believe that the heart does go on
Once more, you can't open the door
And you're here at the ocean floor
And my heart will go on and on
I am singing this enthusiastically right now with such joy and happiness, I got tears in my eyes
: ) <3
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>Unironically linking to /misc/
They don't even know where they are.
The worst part will be if some remote drone finally does spot them, and sees them frantically pounding the glass, but there's no way to get them to the surface in time before the oxygen runs out.
oxygen is depleted by now
no
cope
yes
If one passenger remains alive the oxygen can last a lot longer. Someone would have to have the survival instincts to kill the others so that at last one can make it
Which of the passengers would have been able to carry it out? We can assume the father and son would work together, but I think it was the French dude who was ex military, its hard to say
Frenchie was 77. Everyone else was late 40s early 50s except for the paki millionaire's 19 year old son.
I can't believe they didn't at least keep them attached to a long stretch of 100lb test line.
I don't know anything about scientific exploration submarines except for vague memories of the Johnny quest bathysphere episodes so I actually thought these things were always tethered. I thought wires were at least necessary for communication, doesn't water interfere with radio signals or something?
Why don't we run cables on these things, or cables on drone subs even? Is the weight of a couple miles of cable too cumbersome and the complexity of a cable winch system too much trouble? Are wireless communications actually that reliable? De we just decide drones are perfectly adequate and seeing a blurry outline through a 18" porthole at the bottom of the ocean is really more a nightmare than anything else?
Hell, I would have thought it'd be cheaper overall to modify one of those commercial fishing boats that drag miles of nets.
>I thought wires were at least necessary for communication
There are ways to communicate through water in shallower depths without a tether but I do believe when you go below a certain depth it becomes necessary. It's a moot point though because the CEO only went for the non-tethered shallow depth options because something along the lines of "I dont want to have to hear the surface vessel ask for a sitrep when I'm down there."
How long will the military and coast guard keep hanging around if they haven't found anything and it becomes impossible for them to have survived.
it's a good excuse to train/ exercise with drones
>rich adventurers do something moronic
>AAAAHHH GOVERNMENT SAVE ME
Frick em
Let them die. Two of them are poos, and one of them is a woke homosexual.
Realistically, if he were set free, allowed to put together a team and given a submarine and 24 hours would he have been able to find them?
If there had been a woman onboard, possibly.
The main tenant of libertarianism in regards to regulations is like free speech, you're free to be as moronic as you want, as long as your moronic acts don't violate non-participants NAP, eg pollution.
Everyone involved went into the sub by their own volition.
Free market is going to make sure that any new submarine tour projects are under stricter scrutiny by potential clients.
Funnily enough the free market doesn’t regulate itself like that, safety improvements won’t happen unless pressed by outside forces because the cost of something going wrong is less than making it safe in the first place often enough. Look up the Christmas Bullet and the whole saga of early aviation scams as probably the greatest example of what you can convince people in an age of low regulations and low entry bars.
>small space
>air tight
>humidity
Imagin the smell of a Tupperware you find in the corner but filled woth shit and flesh
Why is /k/ the only place with tolerable threads about this incident? Of all boards I didn't expect PrepHole to ban me for making a topic about the controller yet here I am.
>All of this shitfling about whether to blame billionaires or wokies
Same thing.
Leftist Capitalist. What a world, the SU and the US should have nuked each other 😀
Why hasn't the free market rescued them yet?
Mornin' landlovers
Oxygen and smell status?
>india
The captain did this to himself.
The billionaires should've know better and researched the company they trusted their lives with.
But I feel kinda bad for the 19 year old kid who probably got pulled along by his dad.
Just dont ask pidors or they'll wait for 3 days for everyone to suffocate before rescue "attempts" and blame "bad weather"
"Debris Field" was found near the search area.
Looks like they found it. Probably imploded deep down the moment comms were lost, my guess.
Doesn't sound like anything definitive. Do they know this is the sub and not something else?
They do not, but the 'debris' looks practically identical to the sub.
News stations just don't want to claim anything until an official announcement is made.
Welp, at least they didn't suffer for long down there.
I wonder if it just implodes without any warning whatsoever or if there is a moment were they start to notice that maybe things don't sound so good
These are pressurized containers, with a similar shape to the sub, emptied and imploding under the pressure of 1 Atmosphere.
Now imagine what it was like inside the sub when you have the equivalent of almost 400 atmospheres around you.
I'm pretty sure what happened was very similar to one of the many diving/pressure chamber accidents that have happened over the years.
>if there was a woman on board, she would have been raped
Is there any documented cases of this happening in cases involving people who know they're going to die?