>designed in like 3 months in 1942
> has remained unchanged since then
>one variety gave its users cancer
>the gold standard for its weapon type
Is there any design more perfect than a M18 Smoke Grenade?
cant beat perfection
>designed in like 3 months in 1942
> has remained unchanged since then
>one variety gave its users cancer
>the gold standard for its weapon type
Is there any design more perfect than a M18 Smoke Grenade?
The issued boot aocks are fricking terrible. Wear Fox Rivers or Darn tough and you can literally never go back.
>Darn tough
YEAH BABY
RUSSIAN SOLDIERS HATE THIS ONE TRICK
Muh rushah
Fun fact, foot wraps are actually better at supporting the feet, keeping them dry, preventing trench foot, etc, over socks when they are wrapped properly.
Socks are literally a cope from expanding populations and armies filled with morons that couldn't learn to wrap a foot wrap properly.
Also Russia stopped using foot wraps in 2013 lel
My grandfather was in the FFL and told me about the wraps too. He loved them. If they were so good, why did teh russians stop using them?
Mostly because they really weren't sure what a modernization was going to look like in regards to the whole ratnik program, leading them to copy some western things here and there as simple "upgrades", like socks.
Also it's kind of a psychological or even morale thing aswell, foot wraps look old and archaic when compared against socks, so they switched to socks.
Those are really just informed guesses though. But regardless of why the Russians made the switch there are studies about foot wraps you can look up, and I'll list a couple reasons why they are better
>When wrapped correctly the inner wrapping holds the foot taught and provides more support than a sock at the correct angles
>The outer wrapping expands inside the boot and provides cushioning and acts like a wedge keeping the foot in the proper position inside the boot without shifting around, basically compensating for boots not being custom fitted and sized to every person's foot.
>The multiple layers and wraps wick sweat off the feet, while at the same time keep small amounts of water from rain or puddles from seeping into the inner layers and getting the foot wet
>And the final thing that comes to mind is they dry much faster than socks when they do get wet due to the full surface area being exposed when taken off.
A sock may take hours to fully dry, while a foot wrap can be dried in seconds when properly hung over a small fire, or in a few minutes if just put on a tree branch or something.
There are a lot of other reasons aswell.
But again wrapping them wrong is literally dangerous and will cause damage to your feet and ankles and everything else do to improper angles of pressure and shit
Sounds like a high skill floor for expendable grunts to get their shoes on.
That's actually probably the main reason why they changed to socks, to make training easier.
I've heard (not that I KNOW though) that they spent multiple days teaching grunts to wrap them correctly, because again wrapping them incorrectly will literally cripple them especially if they are rucking anything
>Muh foot wraps are superior
>Believing this unironically
This is a true vatnik, I commend your commitment.
have a nice day, I'm American and I wear socks because I don't know how to wrap a foot wrap correctly and would rather not totally destroy my ankles and cripple myself.
If I knew someone to teach me the proper wrapping technique I'd daily drive foot wraps and never wear a sock again. I've done my research.
Being American doesn't stop you being a vatnik.
>I've done my research.
Kekked, so what you're telling me is you ate footwrap propaganda without even thinking there could be foot supporting, sweat wicking, fast drying socks?
I love my hiking socks, they're far more supportive than any shitty wrap.
Dry in seconds, Jesus Christ what a delusion.
>Foot wrap propoganda
Are you moronic? Russia doesn't even use footwraps anymore since 2013, why would they be spreading footwrap propoganda?
>Dry in seconds, Jesus Christ what a delusion.
How long do you think it would take a thin piece of flat wet cloth to dry when stretched over the top of a fire moron?
>How long do you think it would take a thin piece of flat wet cloth to dry when stretched over the top of a fire moron?
Several hundred seconds.
That is if you don't want to burn them.
Fight, fight, fight!
>I've done my research
>Can't wrap his feet
Pick one.
Also fun fact foot wraps are great for extending the life of wool socks. You put on the sock, then the foot wrap and you can gain more life by reducing how much the heel of your boot rubs off when taking them off and putting them on.
Is that why they immediately switched to socks as soon as they could?
So why did they stop using them if they were better? Double-think at play again, huh Ivan?
Because dumb conscripts frick them up and cripple themselves. They are unironically better. The dude isn't wrong. They provide support, dry better, and help boot fitment. They're just not something you can slap together like slipping on a sock. You can't rush it. A lot of nations used foot wraps as the standard for a long time until socks made them pseudo obsolete. Russia was just suuuuuuper late modernizing to socks, most likely stemming from them homies being broke as hell. No cap.
So I guess you use them then?
>if you put it on wrong you’ll end up a cripple
Vs
>literally just slip your foot into it
Yeah, I’m having a really hard time deciding which of these two is better.
I bet you find a microwaved hotpocket superior to an actual cooked meal too.
All of those dudes have been raped.
>one variety gave its users cancer
should be
>one variety could be used to give the enemy cancer
Where can I buy it
Not a true mk18 but unironicqlly not bad
>https://enolagaye.com/products/eg18x/
whoa, fuggin sweet.
there's a pretty cool PrepHole channel on YT that has a few long videos on how to make your own smoke grenades at home. doesn't look particularly difficult, expensive, or require many ingredients or parts, just needs to be somewhat precise in the construction and portionings
sounds cool, got a link?
>there's a pretty cool PrepHole channel on YT that has a few long videos on how to make your own smoke grenades at home.
Please post. This sounds interesting.
https://taginn-usa.com/tag-18-smoke-white.html
This one is more faithful and has a similar output.
IIRC unless you find inert or second hand the supply of M18s was cut off to civilians. Something about the fuses being easily usable for making knockoff frag grenades or something. Anyone more knowledgeable here care to tell me if I'm wrong?
yeah a dumbass atf ruling on the fuses keeps them from coming to civilians. i’m told they were quite common in surpstores pre 00s
the only ways to get any that aren’t older than you is thru friends with access to army supply cages or buddies with connections. i’m quoted at 250 a pop from a NVG dealer friend
They are commonly available at auction, keep an eye on proxbid
How much do these normally go for? I've got a few ALS rubber smokes (fire safety ones) and some ALS pocket smokes kicking around and could honestly use the spare money right now
a proxbid auction in 2018 puts the price around 70 dollars a pop for m18s
>Is there any design more perfect than a M18 Smoke Grenade?
Yes. The woobie
for me, its the smoking jacket
Those are fricking great.
the smoking jacket?
Parka liner
i know what it is i own 2 but why is it called a smoking jacket
Why does the army call poncho liners, woobies? They're moronic.
>Why does the army call poncho liners, woobies?
They do? When I was in, everyone just called 'em "poncho liners"..
Also, another perfect item...pic related. Never slept so soundly in the field than when I wore one of those little flannel sleeping hoods. Got me through many a cold night at NTC.
Because it looks like a quilted satin smoking jacket? Would have thought that was obvious.
>why is it called a smoking jacket
smoke breaks duh
Yes
wtf does your name mean?
That red star cluster tho.
poggers?
fricking foot wrap homosexuals hijacking this threa
The HC version was slightly more toxic, but that sucker threw out immediate screening. Couldn't see a thing through that pea soup.
What is the best option for civilian smoke grenades?
Airsoft shit
Please tell me more about this cancer smoke grenade.
Literally been around since WWI. Current fuse tmk didn't come out until 1939 though. Also;
>once you hear the pop, the fun won't stop
Foot wraps are so great that no person I've ever known who is in the military, likes hiking, camping or doing anything outdoorsy has ever recommended them.
I'm going to let you guys in on a secret.
If you want the best smoke grenade you can easily get your hands on, ask around at a marina. Large boats and ships often cycle out their distress signal smokes after they hit expiration dates and you can often get them for $5-10 and sometimes for free.
Three minutes of very thick orange smoke once you pull the ring.
Very reliable and weather proof unlike a lot of the airsoft ones.
My only complaint is they are a bit fat.
You know you love this hat. Name a better beanie. Shut up, you can't.
>so thin, so warm
>fits under an ACH
>stylish
>comfortable
>design more perfect
.22 Long Rifle
I hate modern plastic gas cans like you wouldn't believe.