>“Our $4 billion in military assistance includes Leopard 2 battle tanks, armoured vehicles, artillery ammunition, over 800 drones made in Canada, air defence missiles and more.
https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/02/statement-marking-2-years-since-russias-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine.html
Lacking exact numbers, but Leopard 2A's are confirmed, and 800 Aeryon SkyRanger R70 that were previously announced. Armored vehicles may mean ACSVs or Roshel Senators.
we should just pre emptively open a second front over the arctic into siberia
Unironically a big brain move. Take their slaves and make them yours, insist the land was always rightfully yours and muscovites stole it centuries ago.
guarantee you, the second nato declares war on russia, the chinese are going in on that ass
Taiwan?
Which ass, though?
Nato Vs. Russia War uses almost all of Russia's ground forces, and very little of NATO's Naval forces. So Taiwan is as tough a nut to crack as it would be any other time, whilst Vladivostok would be a welcoming, barely defended new home for the PLA.
Considering the Chinese consider Russia a European power who imposed unequal treaties during the century of humiliation, the CCP would absolutely consider it a cultural victory to regain access to The Sea Of Japan by seizing Vladivostok.
We tried to settle Wrangel Island a century ago. Clearly, we have a claim to all of the Russian Arctic islands that we must enforced.
Gee, I wish he cared as much for the CAF as he does for Ukraine.
Every time that callous frick flies over there I hoped the russians would get a lucky break and shoot his plane or bomb his train. Oh well, better luck next time?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canadian-army-waiting-for-air-defence-systems-as-ottawa-buys-equipment-for-ukraine-1.6226657
>Today, the Honourable Bill Blair, Minister of National Defence, announced that Canada will donate more than 800 SkyRanger R70 multi-mission Unmanned Aerial Systems to Ukraine. These drones, valued at over $95 million, will help Ukraine as it fights bravely to defend itself amongst Russia’s illegal and unjustifiable full-scale invasion.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/news/2024/02/defence-minister-bill-blair-announces-canadian-donation-of-over-800-drones-to-ukraine.html
What do you guys think about the Skyranger R70? These units are like 89K each so a bit on the pricey side compared to the cheap Chinese UAVs that Ukraine typically uses. They can't hurt, and these are to be used mostly for recon though ti can carry 3kg weight.
We are not fighting a war, they are, but I do agree we should aim for closer to the 2% military spending as per NATO suggested guidelines.
>quadcopter
>$118,000 ($87,000 USD) each
…that can’t be right. No chance. Even Canada wouldn’t fund such an obvious money-laundering scam? Was an extra zero added to the price as a typo?
The entire country of Canada is one big money laundering scam, that's the whole purpose of the housing market. With how many scandals the liberal government has had involving misuse of money it wouldn't surprise me.
A small price to pay for higher quality videos of ziggers getting droned.
You're not wrong though, it better have high end fricking optics and be impervious to Russian jamming.
For past aid:
>100 Roshel Senators
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_december_2023_global_security_army_industry/canadian_company_roshel_delivers_1000th_senator_armored_vehicle_to_ukraine.html
So I imagine the new aid package will include more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roshel_Senator
No, not a typo, check it. I think it's a complete waste and not what Canada excells at. They really do cost like 85K each and it's because they're produced in Waterloo rather than cheap Chinese slave labor. But I do imagine that they're higher quality than what China produces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeryon_Labs
This. Should've put the money into Roshel. They make basic b***h senators which would be a decent means of improving protected mobility right behind your lines. They also make a MRAP version (monocoque hull with some mine protection) that would be a nice supplement to the Humvee fleet.
>39 Armoured Combat Support Vehicles (ACSVs) [December 2022].[62]
So we're probably sending more. these are the non-combat versions of the LAV-6 which has a measily C6 GPMG instead of the 25mm.
I'm no expert, but I would be sending a lot of Senators and LAV's since Ukraine needs quantity more than anything else. LAV6's have the same 25mm Bushmaster chaingun as the Bradley and 25mm ammo is very plentiful.
I heard there's crowd sourcing campaigns for Senators as well.
GDLS currently has no LAV-6 production going on so it's unlikely they send any. It's a lot easier to extend a production line for ACSVs than it is to restart the LAV-6 line
That makes sense. But you'd think with over 900 we could spare like 50 or something? I was hoping we'd see the 25mm Bushmaster pinning down Russians.
Don't just e-mail; call them or write physical letters. Show up to their office. Request a face to face in their office when they're in town. Make a trip to ottawa to talk to them face to face.
I’m going to go to the townhall/community event my MP is hosting in April. They’re a moron Liberal backbencher who is a Trudeau lackey, there is a near-zero chance they’ll step on a single toe over this, but it’s worth a shot.
>GDLS currently has no LAV-6 production going on so it's unlikely they send any
I mean if you want to restart the Canadian MIC then now's the time to do it. getting some footage of the LAV-6 putting in work like the Bradley would be great marketing.
also those things don't need all of their wheels to keep moving so I'm curious to see if they can brush off a mine hit.
> also those things don't need all of their wheels to keep moving so I'm curious to see if they can brush off a mine hit.
Correct. Similar vehicles have taken mine hits and limped back to base in the ukraine war.
>They also make a MRAP version (monocoque hull with some mine protection) that would be a nice supplement to the Humvee fleet.
they probably prefer it the other way around and not have to rely on the US for their supply chain even if they have more Humvees at the moment. Ukraine happens to already have two domestically produced armored truck companies also based on the F-550 and got Roshel to throw together this pickup variant as well.
>basic b***h senators which would be a decent means of improving protected mobility right behind your lines
increasingly under rated with drones taking over the battlefield
Thats pretty fricking expensive for a quaddrone.
UNLESS its eqipped with some hardened tech that allows for reasonalby reliable operations in areas covered by zigger jammers. It might be possible seeing how russians are targeting commercial chinesium drone frequencies.
If they are hardened against common jammers, then these would be very valuable for ukes.
Yeah, I have no idea what it's capabilities are. For the price I'm presuming it has more range, and better zoom than cheap 1000 Chinese models, but who knows? 800 high quality recon quadcopsters could help a lot, and could put less pressure on the chink-drones.
Is Canada fighting a war right now, fricking moron?
If you hadnt gutted your military you may have had some useful stuff to send.
Keep in mind canada is a pissy little nothing country of 36 million, so our previous 2 billion in aid and this additional 4 billion are pretty substantial. Note: I don't know if the announcement is for 4 additional billion or 4 billion total, so the total is either 4 or 6.
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
Similarly, is it 8 tanks total or 12 tanks?
It kind of did make sense to have a canadian fighter competition, pulling out of the deal and rejoining in the end was silly though
>Sending 4 tanks
>After the donation of 4 tanks last year.
I know that tanks haven’t been that important in Ukraine, especially not the Ukrainian side — but still, what’s with these rinky-dink numbers? It’s probably the maximum number of spares the CAF is willing to part with.
>canada being useless as usual
You're scheduled to begin replacing your truck fleet next year. You could move the timetable forward by a couple months and give the Ukranians some much needed logistics capacity but instead you're fricking laundering money to some drone company that likely has some link to someone in government.
>another wasted opportunity
Special De-Sinofication Operation of Canada when?
Welp, my thread about France sending Ukraine more aid just got deleted so I’ll just repost it here, seeing as how this thread and Canadian threads in general don’t get Scruffed.
>“…no agreement this evening to officiallysendtroops onto the ground but we cannot exclude anything,” said French President Emmanuel Macron
>“The people that said 'never ever' today were the same ones who said never ever planes, never ever long-range missiles, never ever trucks. They said all that two years ago. A lot around this table said that 'we will offer helmets and sleeping bags,' and now they are saying we need to do more to get missiles and tanks. We have to be humble and realize that we (have) always been six to eight months late," Macron said.
So, obviously France isn’t going to be sending ground troops despite Macron’s comments but what might they send instead? More long range missiles? They’re already sending Caesars. Maybe air defense equipment?
>six to eight months late
He got that one right.
>Canada is doing more to help Ukraine right now than America
burger-land has fallen
billions must die
Canadians have a nasam air defense system worth 400 million just sitting waiting to be delivered but the delivery is tied up in congress.
>right now
That's the operative word, homosexual. Our gibbs top this meat grinder would represent a sizeable portion of the entire annual budget of Canada. How about you go frick a dog instead of running your b***h ass mouth...
Given the history of legal bestiality in the USA, I wouldn't want to die on that hill as a burger.
>canada participating in TZD
This can't be real.
According to that it is slated to be 4 billion in total military aid, and they have given a lot disproportionately for their size.
>air defence missiles
Do we have any to give? i thought we were without surface to air since the retired ADATS
We need to send our CRV7 rockets and tell the General Dynamics shell facility to enter into war level production.
I sent my stupid MP a long letter telling them to pressure the procurement minister to sign contracts for new shells and artillery barrels in 2022 and I just got a copy/paste “thank you for your feedback” message.
These idiots are now scrambling because American congressmen are twiddling their thumbs and can’t authorize aid and weapon sales.
>every military in the world is now judged solely on what the give to Ukraine
When you though it couldn't become any more of a joke.
does Canada even spend 4 billion on their own military?
Last year they announced cutting spending by 1 billion a year. We didn't even meet the required Nato 2% spending before that.
>required Nato 2% spending
No such thing. It's a suggestion that most countries don't meet.
We've always had tanks. We even had a shitload of T72s at one point. Most ended up as targets.
Where did they get t72’s?
They got a few as a friendship token from reunified Germany in the 90s
But idk how many
this question might be stupid. but why does canada need an army anyway ?
to protect the chinese who are buying their country
if nothing else having zero military autonomy is just really bad politics. at best Canada would be in America's debt in perpetuity and would it would handicap all of their negotiations.
When the frick did we get tanks in the first place?
Canada had 50 Leopard 2As, and now we have 42 since we gave 8 to Ukraine.
That's like 3 weeks worth of supplies lmao
Good thing its only a 3 day special operation.
thank you my fellow syrup slurping leafs