Ha ha no.
You need a revolver with speed loaders, because they are little cannon balls with fangs that run in packs.
You can spear them, but the spear needs a plate welded on it because they will skewer themselves to rape you.
This, like the uruk from LOTR that Aragorn stabs. I've blasted one in the neck with a 30-30 and it managed to reach me just before it died, if it wasn't so weak by that point it could have easily sliced my guts open or my femoral artery etc; with it's big ass tusks. Don't take chances with feral hogs, they don't always run away.
I've come across them a dozen times, on foot OK/AR woods. From very large groups with dozens of piglets to pairs or just sows with piglets. Twice have been under 50ft away. Everytime I've been able to convince them to travel on, twice I've had to throw rocks to help them along. I've always tried to be away from where I hope they'll go, once I was able to just sit still and let them pass by down in a creek. Could just be lucky next time they might get me but that's been my experience so far
Wild pigs are not harmless.
They are intelligent and tough and vicious.
They're smarter than wolves even if they're slower.
They are a heat seeking missle made of leather and tusks guided by a head shaped nose.
Tigers don't frick with them when they're big enough.
I could probably tussle a single, small to average wild pig by hand if I had good gloves.
They have really dense sharp hairs.
I do grapple for sport.
But the chance of another pig being around some stump bolting and sweeping my legs is too high.
You should probably respect and fear these things more.
>you should fear things that run away as soon as they hear you
Nah
3 months ago
Anonymous
a good dog if you want to deter them, but [...] is right, they're not much of a threat even if you're weak
3 months ago
Anonymous
>hears me hundreds of feet away >run off before I can even get out a camera
Any pictures of pigs near human sized dumpsters and not bug sized ones?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I could probably tussle a single, small to average wild pig by hand if I had good gloves.
They have really dense sharp hairs.
I do grapple for sport.
But the chance of another pig being around some stump bolting and sweeping my legs is too high.
You should probably respect and fear these things more.
You can but you need to commit into wrestling and controlling their razor filled snout. Half assed kicking or slapping with a stick will do nothing.
Also this applies to the average 160 pound boars. The 400 pound monstrosities? not a chance
Wild pigs are not harmless.
They are intelligent and tough and vicious.
They're smarter than wolves even if they're slower.
They are a heat seeking missle made of leather and tusks guided by a head shaped nose.
Tigers don't frick with them when they're big enough.
Ha ha no.
You need a revolver with speed loaders, because they are little cannon balls with fangs that run in packs.
You can spear them, but the spear needs a plate welded on it because they will skewer themselves to rape you.
Has never seen a feral hog
3 months ago
Anonymous
>nu-uh, you can't win fighting a chinese guy! look here's a pic of one of their olympic weightlifters!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Giant pig eating out of a Chinese dumpster
meta
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Has never seen a feral hog
To be fair, I've never been to china so It's reasonable that I didn't know how big the obesity problem was there.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Perspective. Those are normal pigs taking a drink out of mop buckets.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, those are micropigs eating out of a chinese restaurant to-go box
>man catches adolescent hog
Try that with the matriarch of the sounder
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's a baby.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's a fricking tiny pig I have only seen pigs that small with a big mumma, USA may be different. I take back my words but in Australia if you want to stab a wild pig you have dogs bailing it up, they are too big, too strong and too fast otherwise.
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/GlkdysR.jpg
That's a baby.
>man catches adolescent hog
Try that with the matriarch of the sounder
>nooooo! I meant you have to use dogs to pin large pigs!
Oh ok
>in Australia you can’t do it with your bare hands because reasons
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Well, homosexual?
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's a little baby pig.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I meant it, you can't. That guy is a fricking specimen. You just posted Ronnie Coleman and told me I can bench 150kg.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but as an American I can tell you 150 Kilo Grams is a number any real man would be ashamed to utter out loud if they were trying to impress anyone.
WTF is a Kilo, like 1/4 a huckleberry?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's 330 pounds
3 months ago
Anonymous
150kg bench is impressive, only a seasoned lifter can do it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The point stands that they’re not aggressive and they run away at every chance. >he’s different though
Is his skin somehow resistant to tusk gashes? Can he not be bitten by a wild animal?
3 months ago
Anonymous
He just fricking ran flat out after a pig through the bush for 3 minutes, what are you a fricking coon? Also big c**ts with big tusks are more likely to charge than run, I've shot tonnes of pigs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He just fricking ran flat out after a pig through the bush for 3 minutes, what are you a fricking coon?
I stated exactly what we can all see. He runs after a pig and it tries to get away repeatedly. That’s the entire god damn point. Pigs aren’t dangerous. >I’ve shot a bunch
No you fricking haven’t. Shut the frick up, gay.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So now you resort to lying about strangers on the internet, wow this dumb c**t must be right
3 months ago
Anonymous
What am I right or wrong about?
3 months ago
Anonymous
That pigs always try to run away rather than charge, they can and do charge even if they're not cornered.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yet here we are with literally hundreds of videos and thousands of anecdotes of pigs running away from people, and a handful of teenagers on PrepHole claiming otherwise.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm 33 and have been hunting since I was a kid, where are you from, fricking queensland where they machine gun pigs from helicopters causing them to run? All of my encounters have been in isolated, dense rainforest in the mountains between eildon, marysville, howqua & licola, and more than a quarter of those encounters the pig has stood its ground or charged.
3 months ago
Anonymous
bitch
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3 months ago
Anonymous
Aren't you the moron that thought wild pigs don't have tusks?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nope. You’ve totally lost the plot and are just lashing out like a sperg.
they kill dogs all the time. there are webms of them destroying TRAINED dogfighting pitbulls. they basically just steamroll the dogs and disembowel them instantly with their tusks.
Dogs only serve to distract and tire them out running around them, maybe napping at their back legs. they are more agile. Pitbull's are too Black personish to understand
no dog can take a full-grown pig one on one. you're delusional if you thin otherwise. hunters use them as you say, a distraction... but people who hunt with dogs are pieces of degenerate shit who don't care about their dog.
A lot of pig hunting dogs do have pitbull mix in them. They have a strong instinct to bite and hold. There's two kinds of dogs used for pigs ones that will bail them up into a corner and ones that will grab a hold of them and hold on. Both will effectively find and catch the pig so you can catch up and make it relatively easy to grab him by his back leg flip him over perhaps with a 2 or 3 dogs hanging off his ears or otherwise in his face distracting him, and then you can kill it
and those dogs are basically disposable to those people. they get badly injured regularly, that's why people now put vests on them. people watch too many youtube videos that leave shit like that out because of guidelines. EVERYONE I know that uses dogs to hunt pigs are low IQ trash and they do not give a shit about their dogs. completely different from a birding dog for example.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You come off as quite pretentious when you’re endlessly whinging about dogs getting injured and killed in attempts to kill another animal. Why would it be wrong to not care about the death of a dog any more than you care about the death of a pig?
3 months ago
Anonymous
what don't you understand? you can kill an animal with one well=placed shot. why need the dogs? you sound like a low iq tard trying to justify random abuse of animals.
Those dogs still need to be trained and looked after. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of nasty pig dogs that would probably maul your kid too if you let them off. You might not know any but I've known a couple people with good ones. That won't go at livestock etc and have hunted hundreds of pigs. I work on a sheep farm we have 10 working dogs we know a thing or two about dogs, guess what no one with an uncontrolled mutt is taking his dog anywhere near the place. If we caught one up there would pack the mutt with the rest of ours. Main guy who does is in his 70s you cant see the walls of his shed for the ammount of boar tusks nailed up in there and his dogs are sound. Of course they're different from a dog who fetch birds, kek, so is one who controls a thousand sheep though isn't it
never said anything about them attacking other things, I said the owners don't care if the dogs get injured. they are not treated the same as other working dogs. they are treated more like fighting dogs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>what don't you understand? you can kill an animal with one well=placed shot. why need the dogs? you sound like a low iq tard trying to justify random abuse of animals
It's good work for those dogs anon. What you going to get a keen as young dog and make it sit on the hill with you while you play with yourself until a pig comes out and you shoot it. Nah, you're going to chase the thing through the scrub and catch it and kill it. You don't have to enjoy those things anon but some people do and sure as hell their dogs do also
3 months ago
Anonymous
> some people just like animal abuse, you're a pussy if you don't.
this is the type of reasoning 70IQ people have
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lack of brevity is a hallmark of stupidity. Dogfricker clearly loves to bloviate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
in order to be a dogfricker, you have to own a dog.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not necessarily. I've never owned a horse, but I've fricked horses before.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but I've fricked horses before.
Yeah we've all fricked your mom too, anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
Define "bloviate" for us, please
3 months ago
Anonymous
How the hell is it animal abuse if hunting in general isn’t?
3 months ago
Anonymous
using your dog as a sacrificial punching bag is definitely animal abuse. unless you're low IQ. if you don't know what pigs regularly do to dogs, no use trying to change your mind.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why is it animal abuse? It doesn’t make sense that on one hand it’s alright to purposefully cause serious injury and death to a pig while on the other hand it’s animal abuse to only put a dog in risk of serious injury or death.
Why would dogs be exempt from injury or death when pigs, for example, are not?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Those dogs still need to be trained and looked after. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of nasty pig dogs that would probably maul your kid too if you let them off. You might not know any but I've known a couple people with good ones. That won't go at livestock etc and have hunted hundreds of pigs. I work on a sheep farm we have 10 working dogs we know a thing or two about dogs, guess what no one with an uncontrolled mutt is taking his dog anywhere near the place. If we caught one up there would pack the mutt with the rest of ours. Main guy who does is in his 70s you cant see the walls of his shed for the ammount of boar tusks nailed up in there and his dogs are sound. Of course they're different from a dog who fetch birds, kek, so is one who controls a thousand sheep though isn't it
The only time I encountered a boar up close was in pitch black I was walking through a field couldn’t see shit, got to the tree line heard a snort literally right fricking next to me and it bolted into the woods. I think we both scared the shit out of each other it was only an hour later that I realised how absolutely fricked I would’ve been if it attacked me I was unarmed and had no idea it was there
Defending against a boar is much like defending against China.
There's no point taking a kill or be killed approach, you have nothing of value to win from the boar. All you need to focus on is making its attacks and encroachment on your space too risky, too difficult, and too arduous for it to bother. Force it to keep losing, not gain a solid hit on you, and annoy the frick out of it with well placed whacks around the eyes and nostrils, and eventually it'll just take a wise exit from your vicinity and everything will be as it was
Yeah wild boars are any of the wild subspecies of Sus scrofa from pure wild lines that were never domesticated, feral pigs are still Sus scrofa domesticus even when they go wild and get hairy. Thinking of it as like domestic dog vs wolf vs feral dog, a dog doesn’t become a wolf even when they go feral and turn into dingo looking things
What’s the difference, practically speaking? Feral hogs and wild boar have been running rampant in the South for at least a century. Do the two still have distinct groupings? Are there feral hogs in one part of the US and wild boar in another? Colloquially the two terms are interchangeable. >but whatabout Europe?
The chance of a European having a run in with a wild boar is basically zero because Europeans don’t go outside (it’s illegal there).
You likely won’t find any true wild boar in the states. Wild boar have been released intentionally by hunters but because there’s so much interbreeding they’re likely all either feral domestic pigs or feral domestic pig/wild boar crosses
Wild pigs have tusks, dumbass.
A domestic pig left to his devices for a couple months grows tusks and black hair.
The skin darkens.
The brain gets bigger so the skull grows.
This is true, but if you know what to look for you can generally tell the difference between a true wild boar and a feral pig. Feral pigs look much more like what you’d expect a pig to be, wild boars can be pretty funky looking
Females are much smaller and have short tusks though. so paradoxically the males you don't want to fight will run away and the manhandle able females will come and square up.
I mean ideally, I'm going to attempt to avoid them no matter what.
They're extremely unpredictable, and it takes one pissed off porker to ruin your life.
I’ve seen sows trample their babies as they ran away.
3 months ago
Anonymous
We don't need your anecdotes of black friday sales at walmart anon, we're talking about boars
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah me too, stopping and letting them walk away has never been a problem for me, but the saying goes it's dangerous because you don't know when they might feel cornered.
>Groups will usually flee.
This is why they are a peaceful species in essence. Imagine 7 wild boars coursing at your calf muscles with their tusks. But no, when in numbers they just want to be left alone.
What’s the difference, practically speaking? Feral hogs and wild boar have been running rampant in the South for at least a century. Do the two still have distinct groupings? Are there feral hogs in one part of the US and wild boar in another? Colloquially the two terms are interchangeable. >but whatabout Europe?
The chance of a European having a run in with a wild boar is basically zero because Europeans don’t go outside (it’s illegal there).
they are a different species, one has been domesticated for millennia( so less aggressive, no tusks, easier to kill).
The chance a european runs into a boar is much higher because they are actually endemic and a plague in europe, even wandering into urban areas sometimes, and most US populations are hybrids with domesticated pigs, not true boars.
Wild pigs have tusks, dumbass.
A domestic pig left to his devices for a couple months grows tusks and black hair.
The skin darkens.
The brain gets bigger so the skull grows.
>a century
They were introduced by the 1540s expedition of Hernando de Soto, who landed in Florida and brought pigs with him as provisions. They marched all over the southern US crossed the Mississippi and went as far as Texas. Some of the pigs escaped and founded feral populations.
Wild boar >always has been wild, no changes through domestication
Feral hog >escaped domesticated pig that regained some features of their wild cousins
Yes, you can see a clear difference between a pure wild hog and a feral one. They do hybridize, but the offspring would be a feral hog because of the domestic pig heritage.
Wild boars
https://i.imgur.com/opQPoaF.jpg
Can you fend off a boar with a stick or hiking pole alone?
https://i.imgur.com/8Aazsph.jpg
poles seem to be pretty good at handling boars
maybe you should hike with one or two
Feral hog
https://i.imgur.com/GlkdysR.jpg
That's a baby.
Look for the difference in anatomy and fur coat. Especially the juvenile coloration and the thick "mane" on the back of the wild hog.
No and I don't wanna. I've only ran into hogs like 6 or 7 times and every time they'll run away from a loud hey. Last summer I saw some moving through brush and they were making funny noises looking for tubers n stuff. Always have a little pocket glonk incase they want to break my shins. It's fun seeing critters you don't often get to see.
If it's not aggressive yes, otherwise it's pretty hard. The thing is 300lbs minimum with a very low center of gravity and knows how to kill you by planting its tusks into your groin.
if a wild boar(s), wanted to kill you and you didnt have a gun or at least a big knife(and alot of luck), then they would kill you.
you wouldnt believe how aggressive and tough they are. Ive shot them through the heart and they will still run 100-200 yards.
there are gifs ive seen on different boards here of some south american country that has pitbulls fight against a single boar and the boar always wins. it's scary how easily and quickly a boar can gut something with its tusks (literally the guts spilling out)
There is a good chance they wont mess with you, but if they want to a hiking stick wouldnt save you
Medieval boar spears were made with a big cross guard a bit behind the blade, so that the boar would not be able to keep running and impaling itself on the spear until it could reach the hunter and take him with it.
>them teef sharp tho!
Did you guys know that the upper tusks on board are called “whetters” because their main function is to keep the lower tusks sharp?
>it's scary how easily and quickly a boar can gut something with its tusks (literally the guts spilling out)
It makes sense when you realise they’re armed to defend themselves against wolf packs and even shit like tigers or bears
If you carry a gun in a hike because you’re afraid of a threat that doesn’t exist, then you’re a coward. That’s the literal definition of cowardice: letting irrational fear guide your actions. You can try to rationalize it further, but it only proves the point even more.
I'm seriously not trying to turn this into an Yurop vs Murica debate but the differences between attitudes toward being armed in the outdoors are quite noticeable on this board too. That's hardly a surprise when you consider the differences between American and European attitudes toward guns in general. I've often seen the gun guys saying that you simply must have one because of all the perils that face the American in the outdoors but when you actually take a look at the statistics of wild animal attacks and the population densities of potentially dangerous animals (gray wolves, brown bears, moose, wild boars for example), the outdoors in the contiguous US are not more dangerous than in Europe (there is of course lots of variance between more specific regions). Of course Alaska and Canada, the wilder parts especially, are a different story. It's also worth noting that the US does have some dangerous animals (pumas, black bears) that don't exist in the wild in Europe.
But yeah, basically, if you're going out in the contiguous US you're generally not in greater danger than you would be in, for example, Northern Europe where literally nobody is armed if they're not hunting.
Yes, if the outcome you’re looking for is a violent and homicidal society. I personally prefer to live in a peaceful and safe society so I’m going to have to disagree.
Yes, if the outcome you’re looking for is a violent and homicidal society. I personally prefer to live in a peaceful and safe society so I’m going to have to disagree.
You are a troll. You are responding to a troll.
https://i.imgur.com/EnSIefn.jpg
> just kick it zoomer
lol, they've killed more people in history than wolves and big cats combined, a million times over
Hiking pole may not be enuff. one of only animals i would not want to face along with bison, den bear, or puma. smell is keen tend to avoid human encounters
All these people talking about guns and spears and dogs and whatever but nobody's mentioned bear spray? They've got really sensitive noses, right? OP said "fend off", not "cull".
Usually they just frick off especially where I live because a lot of people hunt them. They catch one sniff of you and they are gone. But if a really big fricker decides to have a go at you you'll want more than a stick. My mate was hunting one recently he managed to grab its tail and wrap it around a fence post a bit an was going to try to stick it. This thing got off and had a crack at him he jumped then it came through the fence at him and he had to leap onto the other side again. Pig just looked at him straight in the eye through the fence like don't you dare do that again c**t, and left lol
> art from ancient history, from all over the world depicting pigs as fearsome game. requiring multiple men and dogs to work together to take one down, often ending in casualties. europeans even had boars adorned on their battle regalia. the creature is one of the best representations of both intelligence and strength in one package. > keyboard experts be like... "just kill it with your hands bro"
just lol
Well OP, clearly you came to the right place to ask, seeing that apparently half of this board's population is made up of experienced boar wrestlers.
In all seriousness, probably not. A hollow hiking pole would bend, and unless your hiking stick is a proper thick ass staff, the boar might not even notice.
Now, odds are, you will be able to scare the boars away. Like any wild animal, they would prefer not to fight you. However, in the event that they are pissed, and are hell bent on killing you, I would suggest either some sort of heavy hand implement such as a buck knife, or a hatchet (expect to get pretty messed up if your fighting an animal hand to hand, lmao), or I suggest a large caliber firearm. You've probably seen boar attack videos, where even the lighter 200lbs ones can take two or three shots from a rifle before they fall.
Treat them like any other dangerous animal: try to ignore it-->try to intimidate it-->try to kill it
Or you could ignore this entirely. After all, a few people in the thread are pretty adamant that wild animals that weigh more than you are not dangerous, and 300lbs charging boars can easily be fought off with your bare hands because they once chased a domestic pig. I'll leave it up to to decide which advice is reasonable on this Indonesian basket weaving forum.
I assume that chart is for some small region of Poland, because out my way the 200 pounders are in fact, the lighter ones.
https://www.outdooralabama.com/ungulates/wild-boar#:~:text=Typically%2C%20male%20hogs%20(boars),from%20200%20to%20450%20pounds.
https://aaacwildliferemoval.com/blog/boars/how-big-is-a-full-grown-wild-boar/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar
>US doesnt have boars
ive killed so fricking many of them what are you talking about mien guy >lived in OK for a bit and every night i would have to either pop shots or just open fire on em to keep them from killing my chickens and frickin dog.
those are feral domestiated pigs introduced by europeans. the only wild pigs of the americas are javelinas
3 months ago
Anonymous
hey. shut the frick up. Ive had to kill these fricking things all the time, just cause you dont know the difference between a farm pig and a boar doesnt mean i dont >muh true boar blahblah blah shut the frick up
I mean, they aren't native, but we do have them.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/operational-activities/feral-swine/sa-fs-history#:~:text=In%20the%201900s%2C%20the%20Eurasian,in%20at%20least%2035%20states.
I literally just looked this up out of curiosity. Turns out they were introduced in the 1900s intentionally for sport hunting.
Anyways, while you may very well be technically right (the best kind of right) regarding the differences between boars and pigs (I have next to no knowledge on what makes them any different) the two species still do inhabit the same region, so effectively it's a question of the difference between breeds of dog when OP asks what is sufficient to fend them off. You can punt kick a chiwawa fifty yards, but daisy the pitbull will frick you up if you aren't prepared.
I stand by my advice.
incel resorts to posting "shock video" because he lost the argument. regardless, that shows how tough they are, and morons think their dog can take down a full-grown pig. also, people are failing to realize that american feral hogs are not the same as european boars or african warthogs... but then again they are 70IQ.
>you called me out for pretending to be a woman, oh my god, like, you're OBSESSED with meee
Nobody believes you're a woman. You can stop posting like one now.
Ha ha no.
You need a revolver with speed loaders, because they are little cannon balls with fangs that run in packs.
You can spear them, but the spear needs a plate welded on it because they will skewer themselves to rape you.
>the spear needs a plate welded on it
got dayum!
>packs
Acktchually it’s called a sounder. And only the females. The males are mostly solo
This, like the uruk from LOTR that Aragorn stabs. I've blasted one in the neck with a 30-30 and it managed to reach me just before it died, if it wasn't so weak by that point it could have easily sliced my guts open or my femoral artery etc; with it's big ass tusks. Don't take chances with feral hogs, they don't always run away.
Dumb Black person.
I could.
You probably couldn't.
I've come across them a dozen times, on foot OK/AR woods. From very large groups with dozens of piglets to pairs or just sows with piglets. Twice have been under 50ft away. Everytime I've been able to convince them to travel on, twice I've had to throw rocks to help them along. I've always tried to be away from where I hope they'll go, once I was able to just sit still and let them pass by down in a creek. Could just be lucky next time they might get me but that's been my experience so far
PrepHole is legitimately scared of harmless animals.
Wild pigs are not harmless.
They are intelligent and tough and vicious.
They're smarter than wolves even if they're slower.
They are a heat seeking missle made of leather and tusks guided by a head shaped nose.
Tigers don't frick with them when they're big enough.
Lol
Lmao
You can catch them by hand. Well not you, but a guy.
I could probably tussle a single, small to average wild pig by hand if I had good gloves.
They have really dense sharp hairs.
I do grapple for sport.
But the chance of another pig being around some stump bolting and sweeping my legs is too high.
You should probably respect and fear these things more.
>you should fear things that run away as soon as they hear you
Nah
>hears me hundreds of feet away
>run off before I can even get out a camera
Any pictures of pigs near human sized dumpsters and not bug sized ones?
Has never seen a feral hog
>nu-uh, you can't win fighting a chinese guy! look here's a pic of one of their olympic weightlifters!
>Giant pig eating out of a Chinese dumpster
meta
To be fair, I've never been to china so It's reasonable that I didn't know how big the obesity problem was there.
Perspective. Those are normal pigs taking a drink out of mop buckets.
Actually, those are micropigs eating out of a chinese restaurant to-go box
Yeah with 2 dogs pinning them, stupid wienersucker
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>man catches adolescent hog
Try that with the matriarch of the sounder
That's a baby.
That's a fricking tiny pig I have only seen pigs that small with a big mumma, USA may be different. I take back my words but in Australia if you want to stab a wild pig you have dogs bailing it up, they are too big, too strong and too fast otherwise.
>nooooo! I meant you have to use dogs to pin large pigs!
Oh ok
>in Australia you can’t do it with your bare hands because reasons
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Well, homosexual?
That's a little baby pig.
I meant it, you can't. That guy is a fricking specimen. You just posted Ronnie Coleman and told me I can bench 150kg.
Not him but as an American I can tell you 150 Kilo Grams is a number any real man would be ashamed to utter out loud if they were trying to impress anyone.
WTF is a Kilo, like 1/4 a huckleberry?
It's 330 pounds
150kg bench is impressive, only a seasoned lifter can do it.
The point stands that they’re not aggressive and they run away at every chance.
>he’s different though
Is his skin somehow resistant to tusk gashes? Can he not be bitten by a wild animal?
He just fricking ran flat out after a pig through the bush for 3 minutes, what are you a fricking coon? Also big c**ts with big tusks are more likely to charge than run, I've shot tonnes of pigs.
>He just fricking ran flat out after a pig through the bush for 3 minutes, what are you a fricking coon?
I stated exactly what we can all see. He runs after a pig and it tries to get away repeatedly. That’s the entire god damn point. Pigs aren’t dangerous.
>I’ve shot a bunch
No you fricking haven’t. Shut the frick up, gay.
So now you resort to lying about strangers on the internet, wow this dumb c**t must be right
What am I right or wrong about?
That pigs always try to run away rather than charge, they can and do charge even if they're not cornered.
Yet here we are with literally hundreds of videos and thousands of anecdotes of pigs running away from people, and a handful of teenagers on PrepHole claiming otherwise.
I'm 33 and have been hunting since I was a kid, where are you from, fricking queensland where they machine gun pigs from helicopters causing them to run? All of my encounters have been in isolated, dense rainforest in the mountains between eildon, marysville, howqua & licola, and more than a quarter of those encounters the pig has stood its ground or charged.
bitch
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Aren't you the moron that thought wild pigs don't have tusks?
Nope. You’ve totally lost the plot and are just lashing out like a sperg.
literally just climb the nearest tree.
You can but you need to commit into wrestling and controlling their razor filled snout. Half assed kicking or slapping with a stick will do nothing.
Also this applies to the average 160 pound boars. The 400 pound monstrosities? not a chance
What can a whimpy piece of shit zoomer do to defend himself from boars tho? Realistically speaking, no memes pls also no guns
a good dog if you want to deter them, but
is right, they're not much of a threat even if you're weak
they kill dogs all the time. there are webms of them destroying TRAINED dogfighting pitbulls. they basically just steamroll the dogs and disembowel them instantly with their tusks.
Dogs only serve to distract and tire them out running around them, maybe napping at their back legs. they are more agile. Pitbull's are too Black personish to understand
no dog can take a full-grown pig one on one. you're delusional if you thin otherwise. hunters use them as you say, a distraction... but people who hunt with dogs are pieces of degenerate shit who don't care about their dog.
I dunno, I don’t see how it’s wrong to put an animal in danger when your objective is to kill another animal.
because you don't need to in modern times. it's called a gun. you can humanely and nearly instantly kill an animal.
According to this logic the solution would be to just execute the dog as soon as it’s injured.
some dogs are used as tools, a liberal sissy boy like you wouldn't understand
> dog used as tools
yes, by 70IQ people. has nothing to do with being "sissy" but everything to do with IQ.
What’s the big deal? Why would dogs somehow be exempt from harm?
>not knowing some dogs are literally bred for specific purposes.
just say your stupid and move on
> calls someone a sissy boy
> needs a dog to do shit for him
sissy boy
>nooh, not my wholesome pupperinos!!
go hug trees somewhere else, homosexuals
>I frick dogs
>Basically a pocket pussy
>You wouldn't understand
I guess I would prefer to remain ignorant.
A lot of pig hunting dogs do have pitbull mix in them. They have a strong instinct to bite and hold. There's two kinds of dogs used for pigs ones that will bail them up into a corner and ones that will grab a hold of them and hold on. Both will effectively find and catch the pig so you can catch up and make it relatively easy to grab him by his back leg flip him over perhaps with a 2 or 3 dogs hanging off his ears or otherwise in his face distracting him, and then you can kill it
and those dogs are basically disposable to those people. they get badly injured regularly, that's why people now put vests on them. people watch too many youtube videos that leave shit like that out because of guidelines. EVERYONE I know that uses dogs to hunt pigs are low IQ trash and they do not give a shit about their dogs. completely different from a birding dog for example.
You come off as quite pretentious when you’re endlessly whinging about dogs getting injured and killed in attempts to kill another animal. Why would it be wrong to not care about the death of a dog any more than you care about the death of a pig?
what don't you understand? you can kill an animal with one well=placed shot. why need the dogs? you sound like a low iq tard trying to justify random abuse of animals.
never said anything about them attacking other things, I said the owners don't care if the dogs get injured. they are not treated the same as other working dogs. they are treated more like fighting dogs.
>what don't you understand? you can kill an animal with one well=placed shot. why need the dogs? you sound like a low iq tard trying to justify random abuse of animals
It's good work for those dogs anon. What you going to get a keen as young dog and make it sit on the hill with you while you play with yourself until a pig comes out and you shoot it. Nah, you're going to chase the thing through the scrub and catch it and kill it. You don't have to enjoy those things anon but some people do and sure as hell their dogs do also
> some people just like animal abuse, you're a pussy if you don't.
this is the type of reasoning 70IQ people have
Lack of brevity is a hallmark of stupidity. Dogfricker clearly loves to bloviate.
in order to be a dogfricker, you have to own a dog.
Not necessarily. I've never owned a horse, but I've fricked horses before.
>but I've fricked horses before.
Yeah we've all fricked your mom too, anon
Define "bloviate" for us, please
How the hell is it animal abuse if hunting in general isn’t?
using your dog as a sacrificial punching bag is definitely animal abuse. unless you're low IQ. if you don't know what pigs regularly do to dogs, no use trying to change your mind.
Why is it animal abuse? It doesn’t make sense that on one hand it’s alright to purposefully cause serious injury and death to a pig while on the other hand it’s animal abuse to only put a dog in risk of serious injury or death.
Why would dogs be exempt from injury or death when pigs, for example, are not?
Those dogs still need to be trained and looked after. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of nasty pig dogs that would probably maul your kid too if you let them off. You might not know any but I've known a couple people with good ones. That won't go at livestock etc and have hunted hundreds of pigs. I work on a sheep farm we have 10 working dogs we know a thing or two about dogs, guess what no one with an uncontrolled mutt is taking his dog anywhere near the place. If we caught one up there would pack the mutt with the rest of ours. Main guy who does is in his 70s you cant see the walls of his shed for the ammount of boar tusks nailed up in there and his dogs are sound. Of course they're different from a dog who fetch birds, kek, so is one who controls a thousand sheep though isn't it
The only time I encountered a boar up close was in pitch black I was walking through a field couldn’t see shit, got to the tree line heard a snort literally right fricking next to me and it bolted into the woods. I think we both scared the shit out of each other it was only an hour later that I realised how absolutely fricked I would’ve been if it attacked me I was unarmed and had no idea it was there
Defending against a boar is much like defending against China.
There's no point taking a kill or be killed approach, you have nothing of value to win from the boar. All you need to focus on is making its attacks and encroachment on your space too risky, too difficult, and too arduous for it to bother. Force it to keep losing, not gain a solid hit on you, and annoy the frick out of it with well placed whacks around the eyes and nostrils, and eventually it'll just take a wise exit from your vicinity and everything will be as it was
I can fend off a boar with my bare hands, losers
If a wild boar ever tried to rape me, I don't think I have the confidence to counter-rape in self defense.
>PrepHole once again talking about wild boar and feral hogs as if they're the same thing
is a furral hog just escaped domesticated pigs gone wild for a generation or two, and a wild boar a purely wild species?
Escaped pigs turn feral really fast.
The metamorphosis is quick.
Yeah wild boars are any of the wild subspecies of Sus scrofa from pure wild lines that were never domesticated, feral pigs are still Sus scrofa domesticus even when they go wild and get hairy. Thinking of it as like domestic dog vs wolf vs feral dog, a dog doesn’t become a wolf even when they go feral and turn into dingo looking things
You likely won’t find any true wild boar in the states. Wild boar have been released intentionally by hunters but because there’s so much interbreeding they’re likely all either feral domestic pigs or feral domestic pig/wild boar crosses
This is true, but if you know what to look for you can generally tell the difference between a true wild boar and a feral pig. Feral pigs look much more like what you’d expect a pig to be, wild boars can be pretty funky looking
Does it even matter if it's a wild pig or wild boar?
They're both things to be avoided.
The basic rule ares: solo males can be aggressive but will usually flee or let you be. Groups will usually flee.
The most dangerous is a sow with her squeakers. That's when you step back and reach for your gun or look for trees.
Females are much smaller and have short tusks though. so paradoxically the males you don't want to fight will run away and the manhandle able females will come and square up.
I mean ideally, I'm going to attempt to avoid them no matter what.
They're extremely unpredictable, and it takes one pissed off porker to ruin your life.
I’ve seen sows trample their babies as they ran away.
We don't need your anecdotes of black friday sales at walmart anon, we're talking about boars
Yeah me too, stopping and letting them walk away has never been a problem for me, but the saying goes it's dangerous because you don't know when they might feel cornered.
>Groups will usually flee.
This is why they are a peaceful species in essence. Imagine 7 wild boars coursing at your calf muscles with their tusks. But no, when in numbers they just want to be left alone.
What’s the difference, practically speaking? Feral hogs and wild boar have been running rampant in the South for at least a century. Do the two still have distinct groupings? Are there feral hogs in one part of the US and wild boar in another? Colloquially the two terms are interchangeable.
>but whatabout Europe?
The chance of a European having a run in with a wild boar is basically zero because Europeans don’t go outside (it’s illegal there).
they are a different species, one has been domesticated for millennia( so less aggressive, no tusks, easier to kill).
The chance a european runs into a boar is much higher because they are actually endemic and a plague in europe, even wandering into urban areas sometimes, and most US populations are hybrids with domesticated pigs, not true boars.
Wild pigs have tusks, dumbass.
A domestic pig left to his devices for a couple months grows tusks and black hair.
The skin darkens.
The brain gets bigger so the skull grows.
Cut him some slack, Anon. He’s European, so he’s totally uninformed about the outdoors.
>they don’t have tusks
Holy hell.
>feral domesticated pigs
>outdoors
huh? Sorry we have actual wildlife outhere
>Europeans don’t go outside (it’s illegal there)
Fricking A you killed them
>a century
They were introduced by the 1540s expedition of Hernando de Soto, who landed in Florida and brought pigs with him as provisions. They marched all over the southern US crossed the Mississippi and went as far as Texas. Some of the pigs escaped and founded feral populations.
Wild boar
>always has been wild, no changes through domestication
Feral hog
>escaped domesticated pig that regained some features of their wild cousins
So for 500 years the wild population has remained distinct from the domestic population? Amazing.
Yes, you can see a clear difference between a pure wild hog and a feral one. They do hybridize, but the offspring would be a feral hog because of the domestic pig heritage.
Wild boars
Feral hog
Look for the difference in anatomy and fur coat. Especially the juvenile coloration and the thick "mane" on the back of the wild hog.
poles seem to be pretty good at handling boars
maybe you should hike with one or two
>ITT petty bickering autistic rednecks argue about pigs.
moar
yeah I don't get why they make everything a dick-measuring contest.
why do you hate fun?
I've never been board at wallmart.
When people have nothing else to be proud of, they'll stake their pride on some truly moronic shit.
Suddenly PrepHole seems to be populated with supermen who don't break a sweat no matter the challenge
Some people can just grab them by the leg and pick em up, kinda dangerous. I remember chasing them down at the rodeo as a kid, won a prize once.
No and I don't wanna. I've only ran into hogs like 6 or 7 times and every time they'll run away from a loud hey. Last summer I saw some moving through brush and they were making funny noises looking for tubers n stuff. Always have a little pocket glonk incase they want to break my shins. It's fun seeing critters you don't often get to see.
If it's not aggressive yes, otherwise it's pretty hard. The thing is 300lbs minimum with a very low center of gravity and knows how to kill you by planting its tusks into your groin.
Nope theyre no joke
you can do it anon, balls of steel and channel your inner Grug.
Make the ancestor proud I believe in you.
if a wild boar(s), wanted to kill you and you didnt have a gun or at least a big knife(and alot of luck), then they would kill you.
you wouldnt believe how aggressive and tough they are. Ive shot them through the heart and they will still run 100-200 yards.
there are gifs ive seen on different boards here of some south american country that has pitbulls fight against a single boar and the boar always wins. it's scary how easily and quickly a boar can gut something with its tusks (literally the guts spilling out)
There is a good chance they wont mess with you, but if they want to a hiking stick wouldnt save you
Medieval boar spears were made with a big cross guard a bit behind the blade, so that the boar would not be able to keep running and impaling itself on the spear until it could reach the hunter and take him with it.
>them teef sharp tho!
Did you guys know that the upper tusks on board are called “whetters” because their main function is to keep the lower tusks sharp?
>it's scary how easily and quickly a boar can gut something with its tusks (literally the guts spilling out)
It makes sense when you realise they’re armed to defend themselves against wolf packs and even shit like tigers or bears
If you don't carry a handgun on a hike you're either a woman, a felon, an immigrant or underage
manchild
Or a manchild, yes.
If you carry a gun in a hike because you’re afraid of a threat that doesn’t exist, then you’re a coward. That’s the literal definition of cowardice: letting irrational fear guide your actions. You can try to rationalize it further, but it only proves the point even more.
I'm seriously not trying to turn this into an Yurop vs Murica debate but the differences between attitudes toward being armed in the outdoors are quite noticeable on this board too. That's hardly a surprise when you consider the differences between American and European attitudes toward guns in general. I've often seen the gun guys saying that you simply must have one because of all the perils that face the American in the outdoors but when you actually take a look at the statistics of wild animal attacks and the population densities of potentially dangerous animals (gray wolves, brown bears, moose, wild boars for example), the outdoors in the contiguous US are not more dangerous than in Europe (there is of course lots of variance between more specific regions). Of course Alaska and Canada, the wilder parts especially, are a different story. It's also worth noting that the US does have some dangerous animals (pumas, black bears) that don't exist in the wild in Europe.
But yeah, basically, if you're going out in the contiguous US you're generally not in greater danger than you would be in, for example, Northern Europe where literally nobody is armed if they're not hunting.
This is true. It’s not like you’re walking in the African bush at night
>t. proud knife license holder
Humans should be armed at all times, it's the only way that makes sense.
Yes, if the outcome you’re looking for is a violent and homicidal society. I personally prefer to live in a peaceful and safe society so I’m going to have to disagree.
You're responding to a troll. You are a troll.
You are a troll. You are responding to a troll.
>That one guy with the large rock.
kek
Self-awareness off the charts
I didn't know so many people on PrepHole could fight a boar or feral hog with their bare hands.
Hiking pole may not be enuff. one of only animals i would not want to face along with bison, den bear, or puma. smell is keen tend to avoid human encounters
> just kick it zoomer
lol, they've killed more people in history than wolves and big cats combined, a million times over
All these people talking about guns and spears and dogs and whatever but nobody's mentioned bear spray? They've got really sensitive noses, right? OP said "fend off", not "cull".
>Can you fend off a boar with a stick or hiking pole alone?
>Can?
Yeah probably CAN happen, but not reliably, I'll give you 50/50 chance of survival.
id win
among heaven and earth i alone am the honored one
Usually they just frick off especially where I live because a lot of people hunt them. They catch one sniff of you and they are gone. But if a really big fricker decides to have a go at you you'll want more than a stick. My mate was hunting one recently he managed to grab its tail and wrap it around a fence post a bit an was going to try to stick it. This thing got off and had a crack at him he jumped then it came through the fence at him and he had to leap onto the other side again. Pig just looked at him straight in the eye through the fence like don't you dare do that again c**t, and left lol
> art from ancient history, from all over the world depicting pigs as fearsome game. requiring multiple men and dogs to work together to take one down, often ending in casualties. europeans even had boars adorned on their battle regalia. the creature is one of the best representations of both intelligence and strength in one package.
> keyboard experts be like... "just kill it with your hands bro"
just lol
Well OP, clearly you came to the right place to ask, seeing that apparently half of this board's population is made up of experienced boar wrestlers.
In all seriousness, probably not. A hollow hiking pole would bend, and unless your hiking stick is a proper thick ass staff, the boar might not even notice.
Now, odds are, you will be able to scare the boars away. Like any wild animal, they would prefer not to fight you. However, in the event that they are pissed, and are hell bent on killing you, I would suggest either some sort of heavy hand implement such as a buck knife, or a hatchet (expect to get pretty messed up if your fighting an animal hand to hand, lmao), or I suggest a large caliber firearm. You've probably seen boar attack videos, where even the lighter 200lbs ones can take two or three shots from a rifle before they fall.
Treat them like any other dangerous animal: try to ignore it-->try to intimidate it-->try to kill it
Or you could ignore this entirely. After all, a few people in the thread are pretty adamant that wild animals that weigh more than you are not dangerous, and 300lbs charging boars can easily be fought off with your bare hands because they once chased a domestic pig. I'll leave it up to to decide which advice is reasonable on this Indonesian basket weaving forum.
200lbs is not a "lighter one" lol. that's already top percentage weight for males
>but this viral picture of a 400 pound beast!!!
anomaly
>thinks a 400-pound beast is an anomaly
Clearly you've never been to Baltimore
I assume that chart is for some small region of Poland, because out my way the 200 pounders are in fact, the lighter ones.
https://www.outdooralabama.com/ungulates/wild-boar#:~:text=Typically%2C%20male%20hogs%20(boars),from%20200%20to%20450%20pounds.
https://aaacwildliferemoval.com/blog/boars/how-big-is-a-full-grown-wild-boar/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar
we've been over this itt. the US doesn't have boars. I'm talking about boars. the alabama link you posted is clearly talking about feral pigs
>US doesnt have boars
ive killed so fricking many of them what are you talking about mien guy
>lived in OK for a bit and every night i would have to either pop shots or just open fire on em to keep them from killing my chickens and frickin dog.
those are feral domestiated pigs introduced by europeans. the only wild pigs of the americas are javelinas
hey. shut the frick up. Ive had to kill these fricking things all the time, just cause you dont know the difference between a farm pig and a boar doesnt mean i dont
>muh true boar blahblah blah shut the frick up
I mean, they aren't native, but we do have them.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/operational-activities/feral-swine/sa-fs-history#:~:text=In%20the%201900s%2C%20the%20Eurasian,in%20at%20least%2035%20states.
I literally just looked this up out of curiosity. Turns out they were introduced in the 1900s intentionally for sport hunting.
Anyways, while you may very well be technically right (the best kind of right) regarding the differences between boars and pigs (I have next to no knowledge on what makes them any different) the two species still do inhabit the same region, so effectively it's a question of the difference between breeds of dog when OP asks what is sufficient to fend them off. You can punt kick a chiwawa fifty yards, but daisy the pitbull will frick you up if you aren't prepared.
I stand by my advice.
>N=50
incel resorts to posting "shock video" because he lost the argument. regardless, that shows how tough they are, and morons think their dog can take down a full-grown pig. also, people are failing to realize that american feral hogs are not the same as european boars or african warthogs... but then again they are 70IQ.
>incel
YWNBAW
> trannies on his mind 24/7
>you called me out for pretending to be a woman, oh my god, like, you're OBSESSED with meee
Nobody believes you're a woman. You can stop posting like one now.