Crisco is submarine grease, so I'm not sure if engine oil would work or not
Canola oil was only used for cars in the 2950s, I'm really questioning what night be edible at this point.
Red dye #40 is a petroleum product..
Go for it, do it for science and report back in 49 years.
>I'm not sure if engine oil would work
It wouldn't. The film you create when seasoning comes from polymerizing the PUFAs in the oil used. Engine oil is engineered to stay liquid under pretty much all conditions.
You sound like you know what you're talking about
So, hydrogenated oil is illegal now but lodge still uses it. Will cooking with this thing add hydrogenated oil to my food?
Just as with PTFE, whatever chips/is ground off gets into your food and into you. Unlike PTFE it's not a forever chemical, you can metabolize it, and in the quantities in question it should be perfectly safe regardless of what oil was used. If you want to season it yourself the easiest is flax seed oil, aka. linseed oil, aka. furniture finish. You can remove seasoning by soaking it in sodium hydroxide as it's able to break down the polymerized oil.
As a general rule you don't want to consume any of these high omega 6 oils (rapeseed, sunflower, basedbean) but you especially don't want to eat basedbean oil as it causes neurodegeneration (think Alzheimer's), and the really scary part is that nobody knows why. For seasoning a pan, however, you need PUFAs.
I was mostly concerned about the hydrogenated part, because that's illegal trans fats and I'm concerned about cardiovascular disease
Is polymerized hydrogenated transfat oil also a problem like unpolymerized transfat, or does the polymerization somehow make a transfat not be a problem?
The problem with transfats are they can't be removed from the body efficiently, some say they never leave.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If polymerization does anything to it then it's making it more harmful. That said, I still wouldn't worry about it. I can't fathom why they're hydrogenating the oil though as it's in no way beneficial to creating the coating. They're just making the ALA more stable and difficult/impossible to polymerize. It must just be insanely cheap or something.
I'll reiterate again that if you're worried you can remove 100% of it by soaking the pan in sodium hydroxide (caustic soda, you can get it anywhere and you don't need very much) for, depending on concentration, a couple of hours to a couple of days. If you want it to go faster, take off what you can easily with some steel wool and occasionally scrub it while in the alkaline brine. Remember to wear gloves and add the sodium hydroxide to the water and not the other way around. If the water gets warm to the touch you've added more than enough. Getting it on your skin isn't particularly dangerous, just wash it off reasonably quickly. Sodium hydroxide in water is drain cleaner, so pour it down a drain you want cleaned if you have one and rinse everything a few times with plenty of water. Dry the cast iron quickly so it doesn't have time to rust and then rub on a coat of oil of your choosing. wiping off as much as possible to make the coating as thin as possible. The easiest way to season is putting it in the oven at around 200°C for an hour and letting it cool enough that it doesn't make your application rag smoke, then rubbing on another coat of oil and repeating until it's as thick as you want it. I like to use flaxseed oil but I only ever do it if I ruin the seasoning on one of my pans. It takes a while but it's very durable and somewhat self-healing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They just said basedbean oil, but the stuff was rock solid while I scrapped it off with my nail it basically shredded and peeled. Underneath it, the pan wasn't seasoned, it was grey metal, I'm assuming that was from the seasoning process being botched and that it's like candle wax because it's hydrogenated.
She'd only say they use soibean oil, when pressed about if it's hydrogenated she sorta lost it and yelled about "were not here to talk about health and all that"
Thanks for describing all that stuff, i screenshot your first post I'll screenshot this one too.
Since cast iron is porous, is this this saturated with their trash oil like water soaked into concrete? Welding cast iron is always a pain in the ass because it's always full of oil that comes out with heat.
Also how's this hold up to metal utensils, I've sorta been being rough on it because I'm happy I don't have to deal with nonstick coating
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes there's polymerized oil soaked into the iron but it too comes out if you give it a chemical bath, which you should do if the seasoning is coming off in flakes. Proper seasoning will not come off like that.
Good seasoning gets ground off by metal utensils like anything else. Polymerized oil is essentially a hard thermoset plastic and is subject to the same problems as other non-stick coatings. However the minuscule amount you grind off during normal use will mostly be replaced by some of the fat you're frying in. Yes, even if it's lard, butter, tallow, whatever. The oven procedure for seasoning is just to get an even coat properly adhered on all surfaces. After that it's perfectly reasonable to just lube that b***h up in the useful area and heat it on the stove.
>So, hydrogenated oil is illegal now but lodge still uses it
Thank you for replying
I was mostly concerned about the hydrogenated part, because that's illegal trans fats and I'm concerned about cardiovascular disease
Is polymerized hydrogenated transfat oil also a problem like unpolymerized transfat, or does the polymerization somehow make a transfat not be a problem?
The problem with transfats are they can't be removed from the body efficiently, some say they never leave.
Hydrogenated oil is not banned in the USA. Partially hydrogenated oils are what was "banned" although actually they're still allowed as long as the quantity in the food is less than 1/2 gram PHO per serving. There is also naturally occurring PHOs in certain meats and dairy etc.
PHO was only "banned" for food additive uses, which means that seasoning pans in a factory with it would still be allowed.
Trannies are certainly artificial and I've eaten hundreds without ill effect.
OP can use motor oil but I season my pans with Bophadeez. Coat thiccly using a spatula letting each layer dry until the pan resembles a frosted cupcake then add eggs and bacon etc to cook as normal. You won't waste the extra protein and your skin will take on the rosy color of health.
I called them and asked, they said basedbean oil and when I asked if it was hydrogenated the b***h lost her mind.
My pan had a section that wasn't enameled or seasoned and the gunk on there was hard as candle wax.
Definitely not 5w30
Welp I googled it, and there IS a video of him out there from 2018 drinking oil.
The original one is from like 2010 and his original outfit. But hey, good to see him still drinking oil.
Klinger on MASH was attempting to eat a whole jeep in one episode in order to get a section 8. He was eating one piece at time. It showed him trying to swallow a lug nut and he said it helps to dip it in motor oil to make it go down easier.
Ah yes, that fruit. I remember fondly laughing my ass off week after week at the oh so funny gag of him dressed like a woman. It never got old. Never, not even after the 500th episode. Kinda like Radar saying what the General (or whatever) was going to say right before he said it. That gag also was funny as shit 3000 times, and never got old. Also I wish we had more sanctimonious holier-than-thou buttholes like Alan Alda who was one of the only two guys in Korea who realized war was a bad thing. Those were the good old days, dammit I miss them.
The oil wouldn't polymerize the way cooking oils do. But look on the bright side: With edible oils you're food will be more tasty and a lot less toxic.
So, industrial oil?
The guy who made you eat this shit was oiling machinery on warships and was concerned that it was being replaced with mineral oils and other petroleum products.
Yes, Castrol R highly recommended, but make sure it's vintage and in a tin can. Would benefit you greatly if you have a churchkey. That shit ages like fine wine and tastes divine, Gordon Ramsay told me so.
Until the porcelain gods summoneth. No joke I once was trying to make my own R/C model fuel. Discovered castor oil was used and ran down to the drugstore to buy some. Couldn't understand why the dude behind the counter was chuckling... Later learned the castor in two stroke motors is still the best in terms of durability, too bad it gums bearings/rings up real bad and burns smogtastically.
wd 40 is good if your frypan has moisture, but not so good for seasoning. use a decent quality motor oil. i'd watch ProjectFarm vids to see which motor oil worked best for him seasoning fry pan and skillet
https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectFarm
turn the audio off unless you want to hear human gerbil
a lot of candy nowadays tastes like motor oil, after they all changed to have palm oil in them
I ate an Airhead for the first time in more than a decade, the oil change is fricking terrible
full synthetic does work, all the anons claiming otherwise are bepis level morons
"seasoning" is not about fatty acids, its all about applying hydrocarbons to hot metal, wax works fantastic too
I recommend breaking open a car battery then rubbing the plates over the pan surface until you have a uniform gray tint which is the same as commercial anti-stick additives and adds a delightful sweetness to cooked items. Similar sweetening methods were popular in ancient Rome, defrutum being famously successful.
that's not what "season" means ... to season means to wear it down flat ... best way to do that is with a grinder ... then you keep a layer of vegetable oil on it to keep it from rusting
lodge uses 5w-30 full synth
the rest are 10w-30 blended
Lodge uses hydrogenated soibean oil
Crisco is submarine grease, so I'm not sure if engine oil would work or not
Canola oil was only used for cars in the 2950s, I'm really questioning what night be edible at this point.
Red dye #40 is a petroleum product..
Go for it, do it for science and report back in 49 years.
Be suse to use a detergent free oil
>I'm not sure if engine oil would work
It wouldn't. The film you create when seasoning comes from polymerizing the PUFAs in the oil used. Engine oil is engineered to stay liquid under pretty much all conditions.
What if it's detergent free sae30
You sound like you know what you're talking about
So, hydrogenated oil is illegal now but lodge still uses it. Will cooking with this thing add hydrogenated oil to my food?
Just as with PTFE, whatever chips/is ground off gets into your food and into you. Unlike PTFE it's not a forever chemical, you can metabolize it, and in the quantities in question it should be perfectly safe regardless of what oil was used. If you want to season it yourself the easiest is flax seed oil, aka. linseed oil, aka. furniture finish. You can remove seasoning by soaking it in sodium hydroxide as it's able to break down the polymerized oil.
As a general rule you don't want to consume any of these high omega 6 oils (rapeseed, sunflower, basedbean) but you especially don't want to eat basedbean oil as it causes neurodegeneration (think Alzheimer's), and the really scary part is that nobody knows why. For seasoning a pan, however, you need PUFAs.
Thank you for replying
I was mostly concerned about the hydrogenated part, because that's illegal trans fats and I'm concerned about cardiovascular disease
Is polymerized hydrogenated transfat oil also a problem like unpolymerized transfat, or does the polymerization somehow make a transfat not be a problem?
The problem with transfats are they can't be removed from the body efficiently, some say they never leave.
If polymerization does anything to it then it's making it more harmful. That said, I still wouldn't worry about it. I can't fathom why they're hydrogenating the oil though as it's in no way beneficial to creating the coating. They're just making the ALA more stable and difficult/impossible to polymerize. It must just be insanely cheap or something.
I'll reiterate again that if you're worried you can remove 100% of it by soaking the pan in sodium hydroxide (caustic soda, you can get it anywhere and you don't need very much) for, depending on concentration, a couple of hours to a couple of days. If you want it to go faster, take off what you can easily with some steel wool and occasionally scrub it while in the alkaline brine. Remember to wear gloves and add the sodium hydroxide to the water and not the other way around. If the water gets warm to the touch you've added more than enough. Getting it on your skin isn't particularly dangerous, just wash it off reasonably quickly. Sodium hydroxide in water is drain cleaner, so pour it down a drain you want cleaned if you have one and rinse everything a few times with plenty of water. Dry the cast iron quickly so it doesn't have time to rust and then rub on a coat of oil of your choosing. wiping off as much as possible to make the coating as thin as possible. The easiest way to season is putting it in the oven at around 200°C for an hour and letting it cool enough that it doesn't make your application rag smoke, then rubbing on another coat of oil and repeating until it's as thick as you want it. I like to use flaxseed oil but I only ever do it if I ruin the seasoning on one of my pans. It takes a while but it's very durable and somewhat self-healing.
They just said basedbean oil, but the stuff was rock solid while I scrapped it off with my nail it basically shredded and peeled. Underneath it, the pan wasn't seasoned, it was grey metal, I'm assuming that was from the seasoning process being botched and that it's like candle wax because it's hydrogenated.
She'd only say they use soibean oil, when pressed about if it's hydrogenated she sorta lost it and yelled about "were not here to talk about health and all that"
Thanks for describing all that stuff, i screenshot your first post I'll screenshot this one too.
Since cast iron is porous, is this this saturated with their trash oil like water soaked into concrete? Welding cast iron is always a pain in the ass because it's always full of oil that comes out with heat.
Also how's this hold up to metal utensils, I've sorta been being rough on it because I'm happy I don't have to deal with nonstick coating
Yes there's polymerized oil soaked into the iron but it too comes out if you give it a chemical bath, which you should do if the seasoning is coming off in flakes. Proper seasoning will not come off like that.
Good seasoning gets ground off by metal utensils like anything else. Polymerized oil is essentially a hard thermoset plastic and is subject to the same problems as other non-stick coatings. However the minuscule amount you grind off during normal use will mostly be replaced by some of the fat you're frying in. Yes, even if it's lard, butter, tallow, whatever. The oven procedure for seasoning is just to get an even coat properly adhered on all surfaces. After that it's perfectly reasonable to just lube that b***h up in the useful area and heat it on the stove.
>So, hydrogenated oil is illegal now but lodge still uses it
Hydrogenated oil is not banned in the USA. Partially hydrogenated oils are what was "banned" although actually they're still allowed as long as the quantity in the food is less than 1/2 gram PHO per serving. There is also naturally occurring PHOs in certain meats and dairy etc.
PHO was only "banned" for food additive uses, which means that seasoning pans in a factory with it would still be allowed.
woops, forgot the link:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/08/09/2023-16725/revocation-of-uses-of-partially-hydrogenated-oils-in-foods
I might be an idiot, but I'm talking about this
Trannies are certainly artificial and I've eaten hundreds without ill effect.
OP can use motor oil but I season my pans with Bophadeez. Coat thiccly using a spatula letting each layer dry until the pan resembles a frosted cupcake then add eggs and bacon etc to cook as normal. You won't waste the extra protein and your skin will take on the rosy color of health.
>PUFAs
It's called a FUPA anon
lodge uses 5w-30 full synth, you cant prove me wrong
I called them and asked, they said basedbean oil and when I asked if it was hydrogenated the b***h lost her mind.
My pan had a section that wasn't enameled or seasoned and the gunk on there was hard as candle wax.
Definitely not 5w30
Its always hydrogenated.
Always.
Just say no
>Canola oil was only used for cars in the 2950s
Thought you were pretty careful, didn't you time travel anon?
Just reclaim the teflon that all these guys are trying to get off their pans and put it on yours
There are additives that are in motor oil that should not be consumed.
if your going to be negative stay out of my thread
>asks a question
>doesn't want to hear the answer to the question
Well that's just stupid.
>taking OPs shitpost seriously
Pretty sure it was a joke.
hey dude, people drink mineral oil and that comes from crude
Stop being so closed minded
>people drink mineral oil
t. Davey Hogan
There was an old ShoeNice video where he drinks a bottle of motor oil.
He said the trick was to microwave it for 10 seconds to heat it up.
His channels got taken down several times and all the awesome, actually dangerous stuff he did never got reuploaded sadly.
Welp I googled it, and there IS a video of him out there from 2018 drinking oil.
The original one is from like 2010 and his original outfit. But hey, good to see him still drinking oil.
Klinger on MASH was attempting to eat a whole jeep in one episode in order to get a section 8. He was eating one piece at time. It showed him trying to swallow a lug nut and he said it helps to dip it in motor oil to make it go down easier.
>Klinger on MASH
Ah yes, that fruit. I remember fondly laughing my ass off week after week at the oh so funny gag of him dressed like a woman. It never got old. Never, not even after the 500th episode. Kinda like Radar saying what the General (or whatever) was going to say right before he said it. That gag also was funny as shit 3000 times, and never got old. Also I wish we had more sanctimonious holier-than-thou buttholes like Alan Alda who was one of the only two guys in Korea who realized war was a bad thing. Those were the good old days, dammit I miss them.
But there were only 251 episodes of M*A*S*H, anon. Maybe you're thinking of a different favorite show? Maybe Gunsmoke?
yeah
The oil wouldn't polymerize the way cooking oils do. But look on the bright side: With edible oils you're food will be more tasty and a lot less toxic.
>can i season pan with motor oil
do you want to shit yourself and then die?
Not op but yeah I do
Don't listen to the haters. Season your pan with motor oil.
90 w. gear oil seasoned pans make the best biscuits and gravy
I season my pans with Marvel Mystery Oil
It adds a bit of spearmint flavor
I also use it for frying
and on salads with some balsamic coolant
balsamic coolant
Yes, crisco is perfect for that
Alternatively, change out your car's oil with olive oil.
i worked with a guy that sprayed his squeaky chair with canola oil
So, industrial oil?
The guy who made you eat this shit was oiling machinery on warships and was concerned that it was being replaced with mineral oils and other petroleum products.
shit from a spray can.
would last about a week before squeaking again.
Not sure what you're mumbling on about tbh.
Wut?
well canola oil is industrial lubricant so it makes sense. I use it around the house instead of wd-40, way cheaper.
of course not, don't be a dumb ass.
balsamic coolant
What the frick is lodge
cast iron cookware
A place gay men have sex
yes any seed oil will do formerly known as an industrial lubricant
Why are people still discussing this stupid topic? The proper oil for seasoning a cast iron pan is fricking dirt cheap, just use it.
PrepHole autism knows no bounds, anon
>Consuming garbage and poison
Yes, Castrol R highly recommended, but make sure it's vintage and in a tin can. Would benefit you greatly if you have a churchkey. That shit ages like fine wine and tastes divine, Gordon Ramsay told me so.
Use detergent free and he might be fine honestly
Red dye 40 is a patroleum product
Crisco is submarine grease
Canola oil was car lube in the 50s
Until the porcelain gods summoneth. No joke I once was trying to make my own R/C model fuel. Discovered castor oil was used and ran down to the drugstore to buy some. Couldn't understand why the dude behind the counter was chuckling... Later learned the castor in two stroke motors is still the best in terms of durability, too bad it gums bearings/rings up real bad and burns smogtastically.
I heard you have to cook and polymerize the castor oil to degum it.
>not having a can of whale blubber handy for transmission fluid change in an old volkswagon
ISHIGGITY
Does OP not understand what "food grade" is?
I use WD-40
wd 40 is good if your frypan has moisture, but not so good for seasoning. use a decent quality motor oil. i'd watch ProjectFarm vids to see which motor oil worked best for him seasoning fry pan and skillet
https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectFarm
turn the audio off unless you want to hear human gerbil
Bet you bunch of queers have never even had a peanut butter and gear oil sandwich. Fricking sad.
High quality tequila tastes like motor oil to me
a lot of candy nowadays tastes like motor oil, after they all changed to have palm oil in them
I ate an Airhead for the first time in more than a decade, the oil change is fricking terrible
you can certainly try
Just use crisco
literally everything on this picture is goyslop, it's somehow a work of art
AM or PM?
Pm. I wasn't starting a slow cooker, and there's no can of bud light in the picture.
full synthetic does work, all the anons claiming otherwise are bepis level morons
"seasoning" is not about fatty acids, its all about applying hydrocarbons to hot metal, wax works fantastic too
Can I use soap?
you can try it. i would say no, slightly to high flash point and will leave ash in the matrix
I got some wagyu beef tallow for cheap. Should I?
yes
I recommend breaking open a car battery then rubbing the plates over the pan surface until you have a uniform gray tint which is the same as commercial anti-stick additives and adds a delightful sweetness to cooked items. Similar sweetening methods were popular in ancient Rome, defrutum being famously successful.
that's not what "season" means ... to season means to wear it down flat ... best way to do that is with a grinder ... then you keep a layer of vegetable oil on it to keep it from rusting
No, you must only use the finest animal fats.
Canola oil will work. But really you should just be using bacon grease.
You got to get the super special transformer oil, resourcfull african chefs swear by it
Muriatic acid
yes, of course you can.
the question you should be asking is SHOULD you season pan with motor oil,
the answer is also yes