Can I get a qrd on the baguette JDAM?

Can I get a qrd on the baguette JDAM?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It explodes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does it explode the right things though?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's good but still too expensive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If France makes a million of them will they still be expensive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. But the problem is they wont. Us euros lack industry

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          France alone has the industry. The problem is they lack the political will and their work force is both unmotivated and unqualified (same as Germany, Spain and Italy) so they cannot ramp up fast if they suddenly get the political will.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          War isn't an industry you wanna invest too hard in. Russia and North Korea know this and China too

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Europe lacks civilian industry, and the reason for this is that it is too expensive, and it is too expensive because of all the labour "protection" laws; it is nice to say "I will offer X months paid vacation" etc etc but if the rest of the world offers a cheaper product, it will be quite difficult to find many customers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There was a report delivered to the French senate that if the AASM was to be manufactured on the same scale as JDAMs the price difference would be negligible.
      It's expensive because they're not making enough of them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we know
        that's the case for most European weapons
        economies of scale is a hell of a thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Typical

        >we need the weapons of the future!
        >make it happen
        >done
        >now let's mass produ...
        >nope
        >what?
        >we got the tech, not like we'll need it
        >but what if...
        >cut it, I need my peace dividend

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Over 4000 planned for the first batch
        >1700 actually ordered in that first batch
        >It fricks up the pricing of the whole procurement strategy
        Yeah

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >It fricks up the pricing of the whole procurement strategy
          Tale as old as time, see the Zum and its special snowflake gun ammo.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine spending the money on r&d, testing and setting up a fricking factory and then cheaping out on the order.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, it just recently happened, a few weeks ago, with the Sea Venom / Anti Navire Léger. Some people in France want to cancel the order.
            >https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/defense/la-france-va-t-elle-abandonner-le-missile-antinavire-aeroporte-anl
            >Jointly developed with the UK, the airborne light anti-ship missile (ANL), called Sea Venom in the UK, may never see the light of day in the French navy
            >The fruit of the Franco-British Lancaster House military cooperation agreement, signed in 2010, the program for the new light anti-ship missile (ANL/Sea Venom) is on the rocks in France. The French Ministry of the Armed Forces has apparently given up on integrating this weapon on the Guépard Marine helicopter (naval version of the H160M), the platform chosen to implement the ANL in the French fleet.
            >The integration contract, followed by the order for the first missiles, should have been included in the new military programming law (LPM) covering the period 2024-2030
            >However, according to various sources, these contracts will not see the light of day during the course of the LPM, and these sources are now pessimistic about the success of the program on this side of the Channel. Unless the program is significantly delayed, or integration is carried out on another platform, in this case the Caïman Marine, the French version of the NH90 NFH, which already uses MU90 torpedoes for anti-submarine missions. However, this option does not appear to be on the cards at present.
            Potentially hundreds of millions wasted on the french side if this decision is taken.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The Brits have been funding Sea Venom for years with nothing but idle promises from France that they'll invest the money back in to it at a later date.
              France has spent frick all on it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't believe it. Talk is cheap. Nothing made in France has ended up being as cheap at the same quality as things made in countries they claim to be able to match at a point on the quality/scale/price triangle like America, Germany or Japan. Every single time if they get pushed on it then at least one of those things gives, usually two. In the case of J'DAM I don't think price would ever get there, so they'd do a redesigned version that's easier to make, but it wouldn't work properly or be super user unfriendly or something. This shit happens every time, because the French really believe that they're too good for process engineering to apply to them. They really believe that the universe owes them the ability to accrue scale efficiencies with none of the challenges of scaling, no need to iterate or learn the lessons from trying it multiple times or avoiding scale disefficiencies. God, I've come to hate the French so goddamned much from having to deal with their research, manufacturing and defence sectors.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >God, I've come to hate the French so goddamned much
          oh no
          anyway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fifty ten hull

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they forgot to put wings on it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it goes fast enough you don't need wings for it to fly.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >frog guided bomb

    >it has canards

    You can't make this shit up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably smells like orange as well

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It has rocket booster that gives your standard mk80 series bomb 70km+ stand off range if fired from altitude over free fall alternatives, at low altitude it gives it some stand off distance.

        You mean garlic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, I'm sure this one flew over many people's head.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Explain

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but probably that:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_%C3%A0_l%27orange

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick does that even mean
      what the frick are you saying you moronic babbling Black person

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        THE FRENCH SINCE THEY INVENTED FLIGHT HAVE PUT THE CONTROL SURFACES IN THE FRONT

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >THE FRENCH SINCE THEY INVENTED FLIGHT HAVE PUT THE CONTROL SURFACES IN THE FRONT
          The Rafale's canard really triggered you didn't they?

          >NATO = OTAN
          >EU = UE
          >JDAM = …

          >>JDAM = …
          HAMMER (Highly Agile Modular Munition Extended Range)
          or
          AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire)

          Frankly I don't see why anyone is surprised. Whole categories of guided missiles are built with surface control at the front and doing it this way make it easier to convert a dumb bomb without touching the bomb's main body.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes it was the rafalee

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Clément Ader laughs in "Éole"

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I give you point for choosing something quite historic.
              Still a silly exaggeration as French barely did such design.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks cooler than any JDAM and will therefore deliver more psychological damage to the enemy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If I can see the JDAM coming, it's a failure of a JDAM
      It means it's going slow enough I can shoot it out the sky

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it has a rocket engine, then it isn't really that comparable to a jdam, is it?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s literally just that, a frog JDAM, and with all western equipment sent to Ukraine, it’s sent in pathetically small numbers that won’t move the needle in any direction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      50 per month doesn't sound so bad. It's enough for several missions and they can rely on it given it will be consistent.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like they have a lot aircraft to toss them with.
      Though the Ukie government is saying that the F-16 training and deliveries are on schedule.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      50 precision munitions per month is pretty respectable, relatively speaking. Especially since some of them can be 550kg.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There are currently three variants commercially available of the AASM/Hammer anon, the AASM 250, 500, and 1000. Picrel is the Rafale's current loadout with three of the 1000kg variant.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >America: JDAM
    >Russia: JDAMski
    >France ?

    Name it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JeDamme

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        10/10

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Jeuxdamnes
      >pronounced: "da"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >VanDam

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's the Belgian JDAM: the JCVDAM. It can split.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >VanDam

          Nee nee, dat is de Nederlandse, de belgen mogen sterven

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      J'DAM

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >le JDAM

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      J'damné

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      La Fromage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Je damne

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >JDAM
      Munitions d'attaque directe conjointe

      or shortend to mua-dic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >AI slop
        rancid

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >mua-dic
        its name is a killing word

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Royale with cheese

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Je suis Direct Attack Munition

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jean Claude Van Damn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're a gentleman and a scholar, sir.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >JDAMski even though 'ski' is a polish last name

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-35
        > It was the answer to western missiles like the US Harpoon. Informally, it was also known as 'Harpoonski', as it was broadly comparable, especially in appearance, with the American missile.
        So now the JDAM knockoff is known as JDAMski.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is the French version a Harpooner?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Harponneux

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        'ski' is a generic slavic suffix, not just Polish.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >NATO = OTAN
      >EU = UE
      >JDAM = …

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But I'm le tired.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Then take a rest

        THEN FIRE THE MISSILEUXs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      MADJ: Munition d'attaque directe jointe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Le unite directe attackide weponhonhonhon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JDAMette

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    rocket boosted IR/LASER/GPS/INS guided bomb with a range of up to 60km

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      frick's sake, just drive it to somewhere within the vicinity of the target and let it go

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will they Black person-rig it to their soviet shit boxes or will the F-16s carry them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      supposedly they've been made compatible with ukraine's current fleet of MiGs and Sukhois
      https://twitter.com/Getty776/status/1747903657285394482
      https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukraine-s-air-force-comments-on-french-aasm-1705674846.html

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the JDAM, the Montecristos. [picking up a JDAM out of the box] This is a kinetic-kill, side-winder vehicle with a secondary cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX burst. It's capable of busting a bunker under the bunker you just busted. If it were any smarter, it'd write a book, a book that would make Ulysses look like it was written in crayon. It would read it to you. This is my Eiffel Tower. This is my Rachmaninoff's Third. My Pietà . It's completely elegant, it's bafflingly beautiful, and it's capable of reducing the population of any standing structure to zero. I call it "The Ex-Wife." [Rhodes holds his chin as if in thought] This is the best I've got. [puts missile back in box] Are we gonna do this? Give me something here. You're like a sphinx. I can't read you.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rocket assisted bomb
    ... isn't that just a missile? Am I missing something really obvious here?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      JDAM with extra velocity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's more of a short term burn to enable a much longer glide phase looking at the marketing stuff instead of a longer, controllable burn from a missile, but yea, you're not wrong either. I think they are calling it a bomb instead of a missile because of the warhead weight it's carrying compared to anything short of a cruise missile.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how do they still have fighter-bombers?
    how many airfields can there be

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that someone in French air force or MBDA was once really bored, has sense of humor or both.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"French Air Force"
      >Rafale Marine (French naval aviation)
      Uh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty certain that main user of weapon system is responsible for development, budgeting and other shit even in France. Aircraft weaponry is more of air force thing than navy at large thing. Unless particular weapon is something that will be exclusively used by naval aviation. That is how bureaucracy works. Also, as if random advertising guy in marketing department of MBDA gives a frick what kind of stock image of Rafale they pic for their marketing material.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What did you expect from the creator of the CAESAR?
      French love acronym that spell out the system

      >CA E S AR
      >CAmion Équipé d'un Système d'ARtillerie
      Literally "Truck equipped with an artillery system"

      >AMX10-RC
      AMX stand for: Atelier de issy-les-MoulinauX
      (place it was built at, we skip the issy yes)
      RC = Roue Canon
      (wheel + canon)

      If you see
      >NG
      >Nouvelle Generation
      New Generation

      Some other french military acronym worth mentioning
      >CaRaPACE
      >Camion Ravitailleur Pétrolier de l’Avant à Capacité Étendue
      carapace = animal shell
      literally "extended range front line refueling truck"

      >SOUVIM
      >système d’ouverture d’itinéraire miné
      Literally "system to clear a road with land mine"

      >FAMAS
      >Fusil D'Assaut De La Manufacture d'Armes De Saint-Etienne
      Literally "rifle of weapon factory X"

      >PA-MAS
      >Pistolet Automatique de la Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne
      Same for pistol

      >FÉLIN
      >Fantassin à Équipement et Liaisons Intégrés
      Dérived from Felinae (cat)
      Integrated Infantryman Equipment and Communications

      >nEUROn drone prototype
      wordplay on neuron + Europe

      >MAGIC
      >Missile Auto-Guidé Interception et Combat
      that's where it get magical

      >MICA
      >Missile d’Interception, de Combat et d’Auto-défense

      >MILAN
      >Missile d'Infanterie Léger ANtichar
      Lightweight Infantry Anti-tank Missile

      >Radio CONTACT
      >COmmunications Numérisées TACTiques et de théâtre

      >Système ATLAS
      >Automatisation des Tirs et Liaisons de l'Artillerie Sol/sol
      basically: Linking Artillery together to automatize strike

      >Radar SPARTIATE
      >Système Polyvalent d’Atterrissage de Recueil de Télécommunication et d’Identification de l’AlTitudE
      far-fetched one

      >Radar COBRA
      classic: COunter-Battery RAdar

      >anon's joke: CAmion avec CAnon PRopulseur d'Obus UTilitaire
      >CACAPROUT
      "Shit + Fart" said in a childish way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >CaRaPACE
        >Camion Ravitailleur Pétrolier de l’Avant à Capacité Étendue
        >carapace = animal shell
        >literally "extended range front line refueling truck"
        got any pics?
        I found this interesting as I didn't know that "carapace" is the same in French as it is in English (might well be a loanword)

        >Literally "rifle of weapon factory X"
        lmao
        or as Simon Murray put it: "the French name their small arms like they name their wines"
        this was in the era of the MAT-49

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but here it is. It's a Scania truck.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >CACAPROUT
        >"Shit + Fart" said in a childish way.
        I'd say POOPYFART works better to translate the childishness.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    costs 10x more than US variant
    isnt as precise
    produced in extremely low volumes

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia did it better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Doesn't show it hitting anything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >hits exactly nothing

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    does it fly off the rail like a missile, or does the motor kick in mid flight?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Second option anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Second option anon.

      Or rather, not exactly mid flight. The rocket booster kicks in some time after separation. Many Rafale pilots consider this weapon potentially dangerous in certain scenarios since if dropped in a perfectly flat straight flight it can pass behind the jet due to drag after the Rafale accelerates slightly post release, then the AASM can suddenly pitch up and light up its booster propelling it upward at which point it can go over the jet. This only happens during certain engagement scenarios involving strange fly paths though.
      As a result, one of the best ways Rafale pilots have to deliver the 6 AASM 250 the jet can carry on individual pre-selected targets, is to do so during a 5.5 G break to make sure the weapons and the jet adopt different trajectories.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a Mk82/Mk84 bomb with a guidance kit, so uses the same STANAG 3726 Bail lugs as any other bomb in NATO, and drops from a BRU.
      Rail-launched weapons have different methods of suspension.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Canadian here, sick of Ukraine getting all the free shit. Our military fricking blows donkey dicks and it's poor as frick.

    Give us some bombs or something this is unfair.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Start murking russians or shut up.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looks like a dragondildo.

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