Can anyone translate? It seems like bad optics to do a recruitment video in front of the graves of thousands of previous recruits.
https://twitter.com/solarisveritas/status/1644055022601400321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Can anyone translate? It seems like bad optics to do a recruitment video in front of the graves of thousands of previous recruits.
https://twitter.com/solarisveritas/status/1644055022601400321?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
>Those guys were pussies, alright? I had no faith in them, but you're different!
I can't help but strangely like this guy even though I hate wagner. He just reminds me too much of my doddering slightly senile grandpa. Is it just me?
He has a certain charisma, reminds me of a dumb but interesting history teacher I had
>Is it just me?
do you have some russian ancestry perhaps ?
Was your grandpa also a convict turned corrupt official for a mafia state?
No, he got Malaria on a "business trip" to SEA in the 70s.
Hey it happened to me in the 00s too, malaria is a lottery :^)
I think it's because he seems like a guy who has no business being near war or politics but he's shooting his shot regardless
A real come-from-behind kinda guy
>A real come-from-behind kinda guy
Yeah, I think you nailed it. You see him in full battle rattle and it's just endearing somehow, like he's just living his best life despite his total unsuitability for it
>A real come-from-behind kinda guy
>doing some research the other day
>found out that there's some heart medication that can actually imbalance your mood to the point you will do stupid gay shit no problemo
wild
Found it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanfacine
yeah but Vito was taking weight loss medicine so he could pick up guys easier.
You probably like him because he's more honest. Aka the Strelkov phenomenon. Yes, this guy is a war criminal, a regular criminal, a chekist and who knows what else, but at least he's honest about his goals and his methods unlike everyone else around him. Even when he lies, he's open about lying to you, manipulating the gullible idiots and wanting to bring the downfall of your society. He admits to owning and using troll farms.
So you feel some sympathy of him - he might be a monster, but you understand him. Meanwhile, the incomprehensible idiots that fall for his lies (that he is quite open about) probably make you angrier.
I could not dig; I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
Prigozin is not one of those who "dared not rob".
Today I made my boss a liar
Went to smook but started fire
Incredible the shams they peddle
Blamed it on electric kettle
Now I'm shipping to Ukraine
And I'm gonna smook again
Yoa are still not at Kipling's level.
I liked it.
gay.
This but unlike Strelkow he was actually capable of achieving something
Mike Ehrmantraut
He reminds me of the pope. Is he related to him?
holy shit now it's a Catholic vs Eastern Orthodox proxy war
Holy!!!
Now we a fourth look alike and you could make a spot the pope game!
He reminds me of Kat Dennings
Does your grandpa hate hedgehogs?
He reminds me of my grandfather and older working class guys, but in an alternate reality where things took a very dark turn. it also says something about r*ssoid society where that kind of character is a warboss.
He's an actual major mafia boss.
Why do you hate Wagner?
check his early life
He's from Leningrad? That's why you hate him?
>Leningrad?
kek is your dead collectible commie in a display glass box back on the menu or are you peter the great today? Putins skitzo must be hard to keep up with
>Why do you hate Wagner?
Because they execute people with sledgehammers. Are you there yet you moronic propagandists for a fricking criminal scumbag murderer?
because they're barbarians and murderers who deserve to die. Simple as.
Really? I've always found him to nothing more than a swine. A man who has made himself monstrously rich through the brutal exploitation of both defenseless people in the Third World countries where Russia meddles and his own countrymen. An honorless coward who sends others to die to line his pockets rather than fight out of genuine conviction. He commands a band of common criminals fighting to defend a criminal system in a criminal war.
If there were ever a israelite who legitimately deserved to be pushed into a fricking gas chamber, it's Yevgeny Prigozhin.
>This is the same cemetery of PMC Wagner around which there were a lot of questions and discussions. Here the fighters of PMC Wagner continue to be buried. As of today, there’s absolutely no problems, we plan to improve it and make out of this cemetery a memorial for the future generations that need to understand that any war results in the fact that fighters die, they leave this life. They stay with us forever, their memory stays with us. This is that same cemetery. Yes, it’s growing. Those who wage war sometimes die. This is how life works.
I get what he's going for here but he probably didn't need to show off the sheer amount of Graves for the same effect
Especially not graves that look that fresh.
After that, the recruits can't complain they were tricked. So, you need less resources for internal policing.
wagner's communication is interesting if you've ever seen their movie too that used to be subbed on youtube, it's pretty good and basically empty of propaganda, in the end the only message is pretty much "if you want to die like a man like the guys on both sides on this movie, you know whom to call"
actually i think ukrainian soldiers saying "heroyam slava" were the last words in the whole thing.
It's similar to MO of cartels to recruit in poor communities, your life is fricked, with us you get a chance to have fun and you might make some money.
true but it also emphasized the grimness of war and in the end everyone died one by one for an objective that wasn't even realized and that was the whole story of the movie
Same thing, the "keep it real" attitude and fake stoic nonsense to convince poorfricks to die for them, it's very cynical because the owners profit greatly from people dying for them.
Wagner always thought of themselves as different and separate from the RU military, more loyal to themselves and Prighozin's Mafia organization than Putin. In part because they've usually been recruited from RU military, security and paramilitary personnel kicked out from their former forces.
600k rubles is not $100k, more like $5k
>600k rubles
>more like $5k
I would say ~15k€ real purchasing power, $5k is only if you try converting it through western exchanges.
Sounds like mental gymnastics.
Yeah, it makes my job so much harder. I mean it gives the wrong impression about the upcoming Russian victory.
>there's absolutely no problems
Only if your previous problem was not enough dirt to cover the bodies with
>There is no problem man! People get killed yes. That means more money for you so join us.
Russians are weird
>Look at these nice grave that we're, uh, totally gonna turn into some kind of memorial or some shit, I dunno. Like some grass maybe, like how the Americans did in Normandy or something. Look, just fricking join Wanger alright, my political career depends on it.
>Standing in front of graves on literal wasteground with shitty wooden crosses
Jesus, Russia is so unbearably grim.
At least he's being honest and having the balls to face the reality of the war, unlike le Pussia Monki and Cuckasimov.
Reminds me of pic related. Same energy.
This game really hit different back then. Unlike other military games that glorified warfare, Cannon Fodder showed the consequences of your actions
What felt surreal is that you were a squad of commandos mowing down uncountable hordes of enemies, yet you were still filling the hillside with graves.
Are you 60
Close
late 30s
I only played the shareware version when I was like 10 or so. Finished it a few years later when I got my hands on a full copy.
Chas will be forever remembered
>Those who wage war sometimes die.
ummm...special military operation, ok?
Has Russian society always been so bleak? Has there ever once been a period in there history where things weren't like this?
It's never been bleak if you are lucky enough to be upper crust.
But no, this is their core culture and always has been.
Kievan Rus. From what I understand before the Mongols their literacy rates were actually higher than much of Europe and you had the same kind of mercantile educated community in Novgorod and some of the other Northernly trade cities as you would have had with the Hanses.
It's too easy to just blame the Mongols but people underestimate how vile and destructive those savages were.
Well, when things start going well their Tsar decides that they should undertake a massive expansion, wage a million wars, and set the economy back a century.
Yes, but those periods usually last for about a decade. In rare circumstances, a period of optimism might last for a century under a western-educated ruler, but then it is located exclusively around Moscow and St.Petersburg.
Also, you shouldn't underestimate a Russian's ability to focus on fine art, anime or cats and other distractions to ignore their political reality.
>we give out free drugs and we actually put flowers on our graves, which is better than dying in a ditch on a snowy night Yekaterinburg while trying to suck wiener for a warm room and hit of Krokodil
> But to honest you will be still suck a lot of dick. But that's how the army works, you got to swallow it if you like it or not. The Ukrainian might too be fricking us in the ass, but we just squeeze them dry. Then we will win, just 336 hour more or less.
>just 2 more weeks of sucking wiener and Bakhmut will be ours.
>here's free drugs and an ak - congrats your a storm trooper now.
>run accross this open field without counter battery fire or we will sledge hammer your head
its interesting, despite the cemetery's size, the majority of gayners are probably rotting in open fields being eaten by dogs
>seems like bad optics
not if lots of russians want to die to escape their hellish existence.
Where is this located? Most of Russia looks like a wasteland, but I'd like to think they'd put this someplace close to a city to honor the fallen.
>honoring prisoners
Not my point.
Do Russians "honor"?
lmao is he trying to warn recruits what will happen to them?
Russians fetishise having high losses.
These.
I've hung around some Runet spaces and they really do jerk off to their own guys dying by the dozen. They think it's badass to hurl hundreds of men to their death for little to no gain because something something great patriotic war something something look how hardcore we are, we don't care about dying.
More fool them then, too bad they don't get heavy weapons, tanks, and APCs are the bottleneck for Puccia winning
It's easy to be hung ho about compatriots dying till you're in the military yourself on the frontline.
People generally don't like dying.
that's a bit based though, they are like vikings
you're either 14 or Russian
When you don't believe in individuality or free will and glorify collective sacrifice "for the greater good" in a mission to bring about the next great and final stage of humanity for 70 years straight you get that way too.
Most millenarian political movements have similar fetishes for mass collective sacrifice like this. The nazis were the same way and you see the same among communist militant movements to this day.
>we don't care about dying.
They mean
>we don't care about those guys dying
This. The whole "collective sacrifice" thing is a facade for most of them and they know it. They act tough because they have a strong tradition of informing on everyone who commits thought crimes against the regime, informers get favorable treatment and avoid having to suffer when the time comes for the next sacrificial roundup.
That's what all edgy people think until theyre slowly sinking face up into a shallow stream, flailing wildly and desperately in panic for the slim chance of life
That's how they won many wars against obviously greater adversaries btw, they don't care about their own dead. They even burned their own capital so they don't "lose". An interesting thing that might have influenced this view in Russians is their eastern orthodoxy, which really boils down to "death is no biggy at all and shouldn't give a frick about it"
"This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death"
>"people must be remained that such wars create dead zigger storages"
What did he mean by that? It sounds rather ruaophobic.
Isnt saying that war your boss started leading to death is bad press?
literal deathcult.
he looks like he's standing in one of those anime nightmare sequences with a sea of graves in a flat featureless hellscape
>なに?
>ここはどこですか?
>くくく ワグネルサン
>見えませんか?
>あなたは自分で作った場所にいます!
How deep do they bury the bodies over there? It looks like a heavy rainstorm could practically wash these away.
>what happened
HATO
This is some of the worst propaganda I've ever seen lmao
Honestly thought the last one was gonna be nukes.
Samesies. Would've been better.
Thank God for Chinese and Russian propaganda
our own marketing departments are run by gay morons
Is this pro-nato propaganda?
It was anti-NATO propaganda (muh prolonging the wars, fighting to the last Ukrainian) that was edited.
>Lid 1854mm
Those coffin dimensions are some of the grimmest Soviet era shit I've seen during this wa... special military operation.
I get that they were going for le deep allegory for blood here but I can't stop seeing a delicious cheesecake and strawberry jam
Thought the last one was going to be soldiers, as in American soldiers. Would have made a lot more sense than coffins.
so is the actual propaganda trying to say that the West sending weapons to Ukraine is leading to Ukrainian deaths?
Because the exact opposite is happening. Even without the Granpa Wagner flapping his empty gums in front of a literal pile of dead fascists this looks like Western propaganda.
Based chink/russoid propaganda making us look bad ass
The original version featured Ukie graves instead. Would still be a better situation than for the average mobik, whose abandoned corpse will inevitable be eaten by wildlife.
Now remove last part and it will be perfect pro USA/NATO propaganda
This will edited anyway when they start sending Jets
>Everything gets approved
Imagine seeing this as a mobik. You're running out of shells and spare barrels for your 70-year old arty while the Arsenal of Democracy™ just sends anything the Yooks ask for. They even have proper burials when you know damn well you won't have the luxury of even that.
Don't forget North Korea furry propaganda
I'd frick the shit outta that fox tho
I expected some shitty russian cope punchline like these coffins for Ukrainians but rest of it still only can make USA look good
The original video does show an Ukrainian cimetary at the end, it’s some Vatnik shit trying to blame NATO for the war. The Prigozhin edit works much better.
wtf, why is it making me feel so patriotic about the us now? and i aint even american
Imagine watching this shit as a Russian male and not immediately fricking off to Georgia.
I was genuinely worried for a bit that this was dogshit pro-uke propaganda but I'm relieved that only russia can produce such tripe
I do like the inkwell of blood, but it doesn't work when you've got such a tacky workup to it or when you focus on it that much
There are many people who want to die. Just look at suicide statistics.
Considering the following: the deepest grave you might get in Russia is at the bottom of a trench. It's a step up from being dog chow and they might be telegraphing that they do in fact make a cursory effort to respect the fallen.
Also, don't forget how grim and fatalistic Russians can get.
What type of Warhammer 40k shit is this
>JOIN WAGNER AND SECURE YOUR SPOT IN THE MEMORIAL
Russia is 40k in real life, they focus unendingly on looking cool and being MANLY and die by the truckloads.
Understand this is not a compliment. They are dogshit at war.
he's in a ukrainian cemetery
Real good Solovyov rage vid dropped
why are ruskies calling prigozhin "uncle Vanya" or something?
>mag in grip
ew
I think it's just a title younger soldiers give to the older soldiers looking out for them.
Tired of living in Russia? I can help. Sign up for Wagner today!
I liked the video with the wailing w*m*n from Krasnodar better although that got old pretty fast, too. Yeah, your shitheap of a country is incinerating its remaining working-age male population, stop crying and do something about it.
or the ones from Samara after their menfolk all got incinerated in Makiivka, lmao
Link? Dunno that I've seen that one.
Is it just me or does the israeli hot dog salesman look a little thinner these days?
>Can anyone translate?
Can't vouch for the accuracy:
https://targum.video/v/2023/04/06/11e829d17e3d5723b200f31233a70bed?l=en