Can anyone explain why a knife like pic related costs as much as a shotgun?
I don't quite understand how so many knives go for these outrageous prices compared to other goods.
Can anyone explain why a knife like pic related costs as much as a shotgun?
boutique brands
People buy them, that's why. But material goods aren't ever going to fill the gaping chasm inside of them.
Souo
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Penis will fill that gap.
A dilator will be filling the gap.
It's $160 on Amazon.
I think that's a little cheap for a shotgun...
That's Stevens single shot territory.
Diminishing returns. You can buy a knife for $6 if you want shit. Or you could buy a custom shotgun for thousands or dollars.
Pick the cheapest ___ big thing and the most expensive artesian ____ small thing and you can surely find an overlap in price.
Can you believe a simple set of bongos cost as much as a boat?! Yeah the boat is a Walmart kayak and the bongos were hand painted by Tito Puente but still! You could have a boat that does boat things instead of a small handheld drum!
Lmao can Americans not even imagine a single fire shotgun?
The point is a shotgun is much more complicated and has much more metal of a similar grade so there's no real reason for knives to be expensive if a shotgun can be so cheap.
WAKE UP
a number of factors are at play here. these knives are made in relatively small numbers and the maker likely has dozens of models he produces intermittently, whereas those shotguns are few models that are produced en masse, often (entirely or in part) in countries that have lower income. Thus economy of scale factors in for just about every part of the shotgun. the shotgun (especially, due to lower pressures) can also be made of lesser steels, and the parts if the action that need more wear resistance are comparatively small, such as the firing pin. barrels are smooth tubes that can be made as tubes in large quantities to finished outer and inner diameter (no rifling necessary) and only cut to length and fitted to a breech block. While the knife maker cnc machines his grip from more expensive and nice materialssuch as micarta or exotic wood, and then has to fit it to the knife and sand everything to be flush (likely by hand), the shotguns stock can be injection molded or made from more basic wood (which has to be machined too, but again large batches make automation so much easier). the knife maker has to give a proper heat treat to a steel (and likely uses several different steels, thus once again reducing batch size) and grind everything nicely and evenly. this sharpening is usually done by hand as well and requires a skilled worker.
yes, there may also be some element of knife makers overcharging slightly because a crowd of enthusiasts is willing to pay a bit more. but it's not the main factor.
you're better off comparing the shotgun to a mora knife. or the equally mass produced victorinox knives.
Thank you but if I wanted ChatGPT I'd have asked
not a single word of that is AI, I'm simply putting in effort to explain at length why the prices are the way they are. spent like 15-20 minutes of my lunch break typing that whole thing.
using AI for information like that is despicable (if not disclosed, but even if it is i wouldn't trust it) and only poisons and disinforms the internet in the long run.
tl;dr huge batches of identical shotguns from basic materials are cheap to make industrially (especially abroad), whereas (hand)making knives from fancier materials with nicer finishing in a first world country is expensive.
All knives are expensive however
No knife is more handmade than any gun really
sharpening and making sure the handles are flush to the tang (which happens after it's pinned) are skill-requiring handmaking steps that, at least in something as cheap as a walmart single shot, has no equivalent in firearms.
I'm not reading all that
What kind of an imbecile are you? Prices aren’t consituted solely of production costs.
So it's bullshit as I said
I bet your dentist loves you, grinding your death down raging about DAH JUICE
I'm a burger. I can get used pump action shotguns at my local pawn shop for $150-$200. Single shot guns are usually in the same price range new, or a few dollars less used, but most of them are turkish garbage than no one wants because we have such a glut of cheap, well-made, domestic pump action guns. As for your point about the amount of quality metal used, shotguns typically are made of a lower grade of steel than a good knife, as the material requirements are very different. A shotgun is just a low-pressure, pressure vessel. Does not need to be particularly flexible, nor have the ability to take and hold an edge, resist abrasion, resist rusting, etc... shotguns are the simplest form of firearm. There is also much more demand for cheap shotguns than quality knives. Every shmuck can justify spending $200 on something that he can use for hunting, clay sports, and home defense. It's hard to justify the same amount for a knife you are only going to use a couple times a year for camping. Most people that want a "camping" knife are just going to grab a mora and call it good. I spend a lot more time shooting clays than I do camping. That's why I have a $1800 Franchi shotgun, and a $15 mora knife. If I camped more, I would probably have a really nice knife like the one in OP or something like that, and a $200 shotgun for previously listed reasons. Specialty tool vs general purpose tool.
We have mossberg. There would be no reason to own a single shot shotgun.
Because it's a very expensive knife. How much is a very expensive shotgun?
Generally only very high quality hand crafted knives are that expensive. People are paying for its aesthetics and what it represents more so than its ability to cut. Shotguns are mass produced tools that people use to shoot stuff.
italy has shotguns covered on the paying for it's aesthetics and what it represents front
>Can anyone explain why a knife like pic related costs as much as a shotgun?
People will pay anything for a fashion accessory if it makes them feel unique enough.
Can anyone recommend any reasonably priced knives with wood handles?
check out Grohmann. Full tang, wood handles, decent enough steel and lots of customization options. Also made in Canada which is nice.
Thanks ill have a look
>grohmann
>reasonably priced
Are you okay?
>full tang
>wood handles
>good quality steel
>thick full grain leather sheaths
>made in a first world country
>excellent designs; they just werk
>prices range from $75-$135 USD
Find me an equivalent for cheaper.
marttiini
>cheap soft steel (53-55 HRC which is soft like butter)
>not full tang
>don't provide different grinds, steel types or handle materials
>still in the same price range as the Grohmanns despite being objectively inferior products
You my friend are peak consoomer. Don't bother to do any actual research, just throw your money at the first thing that looks perdy and is advertised as "luxury".
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>(53-55 HRC which is soft like butter)
Be rb I've l got tell medieval) knights they could l not have cut anything
Edge geometry + speed + moment arm will let you cut easily, even without an actually sharp edge.
>soft like butter
So you'd be okay with someone full-arm swinging it into your kneecap, then
>it could injure human flesh therefore it's good for working with wood and bones
Thanks for elevating the conversation bro.
I elevated your mom last night
>he thinks his knife has to be adamantium-hardness in order to function
skill issue
Oh it will function just fine until you bend it after its third use. And have fun sharpening it after ever use.
>$75-$135 USD
https://grohmannknives.com/index.php/products/outdoor/whale-flensing-knife-carbon-steel-detail
$516
You forgot the knife for whale autopsies. Can you even baton with it? 95% of outdoor knife use is batoning firewood. The rest is skinning and butchering wild game. So why are they trying to sell me a knife for whale autopsies?
>he doesn't flense whales when he goes PrepHole
another basement larper
Got a grohmann #2 in stainless as a bird and trout knife… awesome! Looks strange but super comfy. Made in Canada is great too
I have the #2 stainless/flat grind myself. It's my favourite small game/fishing knife.
life style brands. you're paying for a name. You can get top quality and materials around the 100 dollar price point.
One example is RTIC vs yeti. they are the same product, made in the same factory, yet one costs double the other.s
>as much as a shotgun?
I swear americans will desparately use literally anything other than the most obvious measurement of anything.
>inb4 they can't take a joke either
>price is a product of the resources required for production
Literally Marxism
> Useless obtuse point
> No guard
> Leather sheath suitable only for reenactment
> Probably some stupid stainless "super steel" that nobody can sharpen and isn't half as durable as it's claimed to be
What a piece of shit.
>useless obtuse point
Thanks for labeling your post for us
Why even have a point if you can't carve with it? Why does it need to be that robust? Even with very sharply pointed hunting knives combat-oriented survival knives I have never snapped a tip doing any bushcraft or camping tasks. I don't understand this trend at all.
>can't carve with it
Skill issue
You know what he means anon. It's not ideal to carve with it. I could carve with a iron nail if I had to.
Does not have a skill issue
Has a skill issue
You have a skill issue if you need a shovel point like that.
Don't need it, just prefer it. I use the tool I have without issues, including skill issues.
I obtain the best tool
It's just bad design unless it's a dedicated skinning knife. A general purpose or survival knife should have a sharp point.
You need more?
I need less; branding should be subtle
I like being reminded I'm not poor