Some rivers flow over meters deep mud and clay others right on gravel road quality dolomite or bedrock. Either way it won't be a drag-race, but negotiating a suitable path around pits, falls and mud filled pockets.
And there's still the question of original river bed. There's no reason it should drain. If they're real lucky maybe there are old road networks with shallow fords.
Either way it sounds a lot more difficult than just dropping pic. rel over the 1 blown Kahovka segment.
>question of original river bed
Nikopol seems to be interesting in this regard. Just a 400m crossing right up to your position. Not sure who benefits more from the open field right after that - enemy that can't dig in or you having to cross it.
Also i suspect some of the wide parts might be so shallow, one might navigate them without having to boat. But that would make a hell of a zigzag.
Judging from the pictures it's mostly dolomite, so should be driveable as soon as it's shallow enough. If there's any mud it would mostly accumulate near the power plant dam and in any low spots and old river beds. And those you'd have to float over regardless. I wonder if there's such spot where pontons could be set up far away from Energodar to be out of it's arty reach.
Would be absolute kino
I wonder if the Ukies kept their brigades on the West bank that were originally going to attempt a crossing, at least this is what some Russian milbloggers seem to think
i'm no geologist - i see bright rocks, i think dolomite. but see pic. rel. if you can identify? OTOH something more recent might be better, because i assume the river washes up different material at it's shores than you'd find deeper down? Seems to depend on exact place a lot too.
Russian air force telegram channels actually post whenever a ka-52 gets shot down, in honor of the pilots, that's how oryx has been counting the more recent losses. so far, nothing
Which has it's limitations, as the downing of 4 aircraft in Bryansk last month proves.
No videos of that happening either, nor any material aftermath, but everyone agreed it happened.
Ka-52s are high priority targets and being downed, nothing special about it.
I live in country with plenty of lakes that dry up during bad summers. 3 weeks of summer sun is all you need to drive a 4 wheeler around. A tank could go through in two I guess?
If it's dried out it seems flat enough and the silt will probably harden enough to allow crossing.
Even sand can be crossed, it's just that the grade can't be too high and there can't be too much of it. But too much sand, and dunes, which can be hundreds of even thousands of feet tall, will basically stop anything.
Significantly more people have been to the top of Mount Everest or K2 than have crossed the Empty Quarter of Saudi Arabia/Yemen, which is a Texas sized sand ocean with massive dunes.
I think more people may have been to space. Just a few total crossings have been done. Mobility is extremely constricted, movement, even on foot, incredibly slow due to the rolling dunes and sand, and there is very little water and it isn't mapped well where you can find it.
How does a map even help you there? Isn't it named for just how little of anything there is? Aren't the sand dunes subject to being blown around constantly?
love how vatBlack folk still try to portray putin as some cool 5D chess leader of russia.
his reputation is dead, senpai. these pics look really cringy, it's about as bad as twitter homosexuals trying to make malarkey man look like some cool based guy rather than the alzheimers riddled geriatric that he is.
Give it a month to mostly dry up and probably yes. This is assuming that the residents on the other side don't fire artillery at you out of spite.
Eventually ya, it’ll probably need a good bit to dry like a month or so
No, but it doesn't mean piggers won't try
Depends on geology of specific location.
Some rivers flow over meters deep mud and clay others right on gravel road quality dolomite or bedrock. Either way it won't be a drag-race, but negotiating a suitable path around pits, falls and mud filled pockets.
And there's still the question of original river bed. There's no reason it should drain. If they're real lucky maybe there are old road networks with shallow fords.
Either way it sounds a lot more difficult than just dropping pic. rel over the 1 blown Kahovka segment.
>question of original river bed
Nikopol seems to be interesting in this regard. Just a 400m crossing right up to your position. Not sure who benefits more from the open field right after that - enemy that can't dig in or you having to cross it.
Also i suspect some of the wide parts might be so shallow, one might navigate them without having to boat. But that would make a hell of a zigzag.
What satellite is that? I can't seem to find it on Sentinel
Could you just use a geotextile to distribute the load of vehicle tires over larger surface?
Brits did that with Churchill tanks (pic rel.)
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Judging from the pictures it's mostly dolomite, so should be driveable as soon as it's shallow enough. If there's any mud it would mostly accumulate near the power plant dam and in any low spots and old river beds. And those you'd have to float over regardless. I wonder if there's such spot where pontons could be set up far away from Energodar to be out of it's arty reach.
What i mean - they probably cant cross anywhere around red circle without being hit by Arty from NPP ( that can't be destroyed or supressed ).
Are they trying to chernobylise themselves again already? One rogue smooker...
Would be absolute kino
I wonder if the Ukies kept their brigades on the West bank that were originally going to attempt a crossing, at least this is what some Russian milbloggers seem to think
>Judging from the pictures it's mostly dolomite
What pictures are you talking about mate? I'm a geologist so I might contribute a little bit.
Also telling rocks apart from pictures is always tricky, just say it's rock and not sediment instead of trying to identify but whatever.
i'm no geologist - i see bright rocks, i think dolomite. but see pic. rel. if you can identify? OTOH something more recent might be better, because i assume the river washes up different material at it's shores than you'd find deeper down? Seems to depend on exact place a lot too.
>Compliments your riverbed crossing
-ACK
They shot down two of them in the last two days, that why you brownoids keep spamming threads with these?
May I see them?
Thank you for doing the needful, sir.
no
may we see the footage of crocs actually blowing things up and not missing?
>Source: Ukranian Military Facebook page
Russian air force telegram channels actually post whenever a ka-52 gets shot down, in honor of the pilots, that's how oryx has been counting the more recent losses. so far, nothing
Which has it's limitations, as the downing of 4 aircraft in Bryansk last month proves.
No videos of that happening either, nor any material aftermath, but everyone agreed it happened.
Ka-52s are high priority targets and being downed, nothing special about it.
>ACK
Yeah
No, it's 60+ years of mud, there are no vehicles able to cross this swamp.
What do I see here?
probably something being fired from a Ka-52, which are allegedly still in frontline use (real frontline use, not blowing up combines)
Russian junk
>Can an IFV or even a tanke traverse this?
I wouldn't worry about it. You should concentrate on Bakhmut, that's where the REAL offensive is coming.
I live in country with plenty of lakes that dry up during bad summers. 3 weeks of summer sun is all you need to drive a 4 wheeler around. A tank could go through in two I guess?
If it's dried out it seems flat enough and the silt will probably harden enough to allow crossing.
Even sand can be crossed, it's just that the grade can't be too high and there can't be too much of it. But too much sand, and dunes, which can be hundreds of even thousands of feet tall, will basically stop anything.
Significantly more people have been to the top of Mount Everest or K2 than have crossed the Empty Quarter of Saudi Arabia/Yemen, which is a Texas sized sand ocean with massive dunes.
I think more people may have been to space. Just a few total crossings have been done. Mobility is extremely constricted, movement, even on foot, incredibly slow due to the rolling dunes and sand, and there is very little water and it isn't mapped well where you can find it.
How does a map even help you there? Isn't it named for just how little of anything there is? Aren't the sand dunes subject to being blown around constantly?
love how vatBlack folk still try to portray putin as some cool 5D chess leader of russia.
his reputation is dead, senpai. these pics look really cringy, it's about as bad as twitter homosexuals trying to make malarkey man look like some cool based guy rather than the alzheimers riddled geriatric that he is.
I will never click a link a known cuckold posts
Ever.
Wise choice, because propogandons are too stupid to post working links anyways.
dennis's new thing sucks
remember when you posted russian POWs? oh wait that was yesterday
What does this have to do with the recapture of Russian territory?
This is the most recent i could find: tinyurl DeBigDday
Too bad there isn't anything closer to dam except for pic. rel. potato quality.