Do you think it would be comfortable to sit on a chair with a 12" deep seat? Just think about it for a minute. If you're 6 years old and don't know what 12" inches looks like, go ask your mom for a tape measure.
Yeah, that is kinda weird... I have a onetigris chair that is a similar design, pretty much all the dimensions are the same including the weight but my chair is listed as almost 20inches deep.
This.
Folding sleeping pad weighs less, costs less and has multiple uses- not least as your sleeping pad or as an additional sleeping mat in cold weather or rough ground.
Plus you can deploy it on surfaces such as sand and soft earth without sinking.
Which folding pad do you use? I've been looking for something I can layer with my air pad. I think the gossamer gear thinlight looks good as a seat and additional insulation but I'm worried it might be too thin to protect an air pad from rough ground. I'm planning on upgrading to one of those new xtherm NXT pads that thermrest is releasing this month and I want to keep it in good shape
The gossamer one is just a light and thing neoprene, but as long as you're not dragging it around it won't abrade. I've got friends who use that, I am mostly use a Nemo sit pad as I am hammock camper when possible. I have a knockoff z-lite that use for ground stuff. They will all get shredded but not from just putting stuff on top of it. When stacking pads I would recommend you bring shock cord or straps to keep the whole thing together at night. Put your foam on top of the air mattress though, when it gets really cold nylon feels way colder to the touch than closed cell foam. You can use something like tyvek or plastic sheeting to be your sacrificial protection for the pad if not in a tent. Do yourself a favor though and label the sides. It sucks when you put it away with moisture on it and then sit right back down into that later.
As far as chairs I like them for the car or short distance walks of convenience. But in the cold and wet I'm not a fan. They are harder to keep dry, they can't be used as a surface to kneel on, can't use as extra insulation under you, allow too much air under you in the cold, and generally heavier than a simple pad. It's nice to have handy just not in my camping kit.
>neoprene
its actually made of evazote. i think the high grade formulation, i've heard the kind you can get for reasonable prices for diy isn't as good. i looked into diy'ing a thinlight when it was out of stock and its not really worth it unless you got a local supplier for it:
https://www.zotefoams.com/product/azote/evazote/ >Do yourself a favor though and label the sides.
dude that's smart. i've been backpacking my whole life and learned a new one today.
How durable are those? I've looked at one of those but I'm 100kg/220lbs and have been too unsure to get one.
I've just got a tripod cloth stool for now, what's also putting me off is this thing packs bigger than that tripod chair and weighs like double so I might not bring it for really long hikes anyway.
>The comfort of sitting in a real chair with a back and a slight recline after a full days hike is unmatched.
Yes that's what I was thinking since I'll be fishing. Sitting comfortably immediately improves basically any scenario. Thanks.
That's an appealing idea, comfymaxxing day fishing trips.
>the utility
there is none.
zero.
maybe the ability to scavenge it for its raw materials and make a tent pole out of it or something.
the luxury is the term you are looking for. it can be worth it on short trips especially when its snowy out because its a pain in the ass to find somewhere good to sit when its snowy.
i like bringing one when i'm fishing. and on overnighters because i'm old. if i was still like 20 i would just sit on the ground with a waterproof square or a sleeping pad.
Well, I only intend to go for 3 day camps, probably only 10-15 miles from the nearest bus route (UK here) so it for the sake of 2lbs of weight it seems worth it.
I stopped using one years ago when I switched to a hammock, which doubles as a chair. The only issues are my don’t have a chair to sit in when taking a break, as I don’t set up my hammock when I stop for lunch, and I can’t sit in a chair near a campfire, which is pretty cozy. But since I can sit in my hammock at camp a chair just isn’t worth it for me.
200 lb here. My weight drives the distal ends of the legs into some soils and I end up sitting on the ground albeit with a back support. I now wedge my Switchback folding pad under my butt amd it keeps me elevated. Not a fatty.
The only chair I would consider taking backpacking would be the Helinox chair zero, but it’s too expensive for me to justify buying.
There are tons of cheap Chair 1 clones on Amazon, but no one apparently can cheaply clone the chair zero and come in at a similar weight
I would never take it backpacking, shit weighs a ton, but my fricking god picrel was THE most comfortable outdoor chair I've ever owned.
Shit is soft as frick and had great back support. I took it to the docks, the jetty, the beach, I even set it up in the living room sometimes in front of the fireplace.
Only issue? Highly flammable. I fricking burned it when I left the campfire to go pee. It was a windy winter day and I thought some wood and a bag of marshmallows was enough to stop i blowing away but frick me I came back and the entire backrest was FRICKED.
Worst of all you can't even buy this shit anymore. Trust me I've tried. Not even secondhand on ebay or craigslist, nobody fricking has this shit.
Depends on what you're doing. For a quick trip to the woods with some open fire and chilling it is 100% worth it. If you're hiking a long distance and need to prioritize weight then obviously not. I really like my two Trekology chairs though, I've used them a ton.
Took two on our camping trip last summer. They were shit. Super uncomfortable. Sank into the ground no matter what we put under the feet. The first thing we agreed on is next year we are taking real chairs. The only reason I would take one is if I was back packing and couldn’t take a full sized chair (they are still better than nothing)
For backpacking, I don't know. But I plan on bikepacking soon, and I think that I can spare a room for a good chair to rest my feet. Trying to find one that is reasonably priced with light weight is difficult though...
Do you think it would be comfortable to sit on a chair with a 12" deep seat? Just think about it for a minute. If you're 6 years old and don't know what 12" inches looks like, go ask your mom for a tape measure.
I'm not a big guy so I can probably sit comfortably.
I am a big guy and it's still comfortable for me. I actually have the exact chinese one and color in the pic
Yeah, that is kinda weird... I have a onetigris chair that is a similar design, pretty much all the dimensions are the same including the weight but my chair is listed as almost 20inches deep.
Not worth it. Just sit on a foam sleep pad. Folding works better
This.
Folding sleeping pad weighs less, costs less and has multiple uses- not least as your sleeping pad or as an additional sleeping mat in cold weather or rough ground.
Plus you can deploy it on surfaces such as sand and soft earth without sinking.
Which folding pad do you use? I've been looking for something I can layer with my air pad. I think the gossamer gear thinlight looks good as a seat and additional insulation but I'm worried it might be too thin to protect an air pad from rough ground. I'm planning on upgrading to one of those new xtherm NXT pads that thermrest is releasing this month and I want to keep it in good shape
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/folding-foam-trekking-mattress-mt500-180-x-55-cm-1-person/_/R-p-174619?mc=8492712&c=GREY
The gossamer one is just a light and thing neoprene, but as long as you're not dragging it around it won't abrade. I've got friends who use that, I am mostly use a Nemo sit pad as I am hammock camper when possible. I have a knockoff z-lite that use for ground stuff. They will all get shredded but not from just putting stuff on top of it. When stacking pads I would recommend you bring shock cord or straps to keep the whole thing together at night. Put your foam on top of the air mattress though, when it gets really cold nylon feels way colder to the touch than closed cell foam. You can use something like tyvek or plastic sheeting to be your sacrificial protection for the pad if not in a tent. Do yourself a favor though and label the sides. It sucks when you put it away with moisture on it and then sit right back down into that later.
As far as chairs I like them for the car or short distance walks of convenience. But in the cold and wet I'm not a fan. They are harder to keep dry, they can't be used as a surface to kneel on, can't use as extra insulation under you, allow too much air under you in the cold, and generally heavier than a simple pad. It's nice to have handy just not in my camping kit.
>neoprene
its actually made of evazote. i think the high grade formulation, i've heard the kind you can get for reasonable prices for diy isn't as good. i looked into diy'ing a thinlight when it was out of stock and its not really worth it unless you got a local supplier for it:
https://www.zotefoams.com/product/azote/evazote/
>Do yourself a favor though and label the sides.
dude that's smart. i've been backpacking my whole life and learned a new one today.
>without sinking.
>t. sasquatch
Absolutely worth it. The comfort of sitting in a real chair with a back and a slight recline after a full days hike is unmatched.
You can find smaller ones that are only 1lb if you're really desperate to share off weight.
i have the same chair OP.
yeah, it's absolutely worth carrying on shorter trips. anon is right. a foam or inflatable sitting pad doesn't even compare comfort wise.
How durable are those? I've looked at one of those but I'm 100kg/220lbs and have been too unsure to get one.
I've just got a tripod cloth stool for now, what's also putting me off is this thing packs bigger than that tripod chair and weighs like double so I might not bring it for really long hikes anyway.
That's an appealing idea, comfymaxxing day fishing trips.
durability has been good. i use it every day in my backyard, and several times a week fishing.
>The comfort of sitting in a real chair with a back and a slight recline after a full days hike is unmatched.
Yes that's what I was thinking since I'll be fishing. Sitting comfortably immediately improves basically any scenario. Thanks.
>the utility
there is none.
zero.
maybe the ability to scavenge it for its raw materials and make a tent pole out of it or something.
the luxury is the term you are looking for. it can be worth it on short trips especially when its snowy out because its a pain in the ass to find somewhere good to sit when its snowy.
i like bringing one when i'm fishing. and on overnighters because i'm old. if i was still like 20 i would just sit on the ground with a waterproof square or a sleeping pad.
Well, I only intend to go for 3 day camps, probably only 10-15 miles from the nearest bus route (UK here) so it for the sake of 2lbs of weight it seems worth it.
>so it for the sake of 2lbs of weight it seems worth it.
i'd bring it, 15 miles isn't a very long hike you'll be sitting around enough to be worth it.
Friend had one of these. It punctured straight through a tent bottom.
What's the go-to Aliexpress version of this chair these days?
To OP, yes these are worth it. Bought one off Ali 8 years ago and it comes with me on every trip - no regrets.
This is what i wonder.
You can buy them for half the price than the green one in the first post, but what's the point if it's going to break?
I stopped using one years ago when I switched to a hammock, which doubles as a chair. The only issues are my don’t have a chair to sit in when taking a break, as I don’t set up my hammock when I stop for lunch, and I can’t sit in a chair near a campfire, which is pretty cozy. But since I can sit in my hammock at camp a chair just isn’t worth it for me.
Groundcels could never understand the true comfort of a nice chair after a long day.
200 lb here. My weight drives the distal ends of the legs into some soils and I end up sitting on the ground albeit with a back support. I now wedge my Switchback folding pad under my butt amd it keeps me elevated. Not a fatty.
The only chair I would consider taking backpacking would be the Helinox chair zero, but it’s too expensive for me to justify buying.
There are tons of cheap Chair 1 clones on Amazon, but no one apparently can cheaply clone the chair zero and come in at a similar weight
I would love to have one but can't find one that is small and light. Those frickers are massive.
Anybody own or have experience with pic related? It seems like it checks all my boxes but fricking $220 is ridiculous
>Is this seat worth it in terms of the utility vs. weight/space?
Not even slightly.
for me, it's the crazy creek. just clip it onto your pack. you do have an external frame, right?
9/10 chiropractors recommend it
kek i will say they are lot more comfortable than what it looks like in this pic
Lol how is this better than just sitting on the ground. What butthole invented this?
You can lean back in it and your back is fully supported. I used to use them at summer camp as a kid and it was a fricking life saver.
I would never take it backpacking, shit weighs a ton, but my fricking god picrel was THE most comfortable outdoor chair I've ever owned.
Shit is soft as frick and had great back support. I took it to the docks, the jetty, the beach, I even set it up in the living room sometimes in front of the fireplace.
Only issue? Highly flammable. I fricking burned it when I left the campfire to go pee. It was a windy winter day and I thought some wood and a bag of marshmallows was enough to stop i blowing away but frick me I came back and the entire backrest was FRICKED.
Worst of all you can't even buy this shit anymore. Trust me I've tried. Not even secondhand on ebay or craigslist, nobody fricking has this shit.
Use a BW Folding Shovel. It works as a stool, a shitting seat, a chopping tool, a pick, and a shovel. Multiuse and you can sit on it.
Depends on what you're doing. For a quick trip to the woods with some open fire and chilling it is 100% worth it. If you're hiking a long distance and need to prioritize weight then obviously not. I really like my two Trekology chairs though, I've used them a ton.
Took two on our camping trip last summer. They were shit. Super uncomfortable. Sank into the ground no matter what we put under the feet. The first thing we agreed on is next year we are taking real chairs. The only reason I would take one is if I was back packing and couldn’t take a full sized chair (they are still better than nothing)
For backpacking, I don't know. But I plan on bikepacking soon, and I think that I can spare a room for a good chair to rest my feet. Trying to find one that is reasonably priced with light weight is difficult though...