1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia really doesn’t control much of Ukraine tbh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia controls enough to economically and catastrophically crippled it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >endless NATObux
        >economically cripple
        Lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did cripple themselves in the process.

        https://i.imgur.com/ZIR9pbZ.jpg

        called it

        They're not going to set foot in Russia

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They're not going to set foot in Russia
          Yes, but independent Rostov and Krasnodar republics are a fair game.
          Ukraine will just one sidedly annouce that they recognize those as independent, just like Russia did with the meme republics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The west will drop support for Ukraine if they start violating Russian sovereignty.
            It's a gross violation of international law, and just because Russia routinely breaks them doesn't mean the west will let Ukraine do the same

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia does not exist so its sovereigty cannot be violated.
              t. West

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh so you're a vatnik then. Fucking waste of time

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's a gross violation of international law, and just because Russia routinely breaks them doesn't mean the west will let Ukraine do the same
              Turnabout is a fair play. As long as russia keeps pretending that the meme republics are independent, there is no problem doing the same for russian oblasts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can repeat this until you're blue in the face, but the current Department of State isn't going to take this stance. Every action the US has taken in this conflict has been carefully calculated to avoid Russia lashing out with nukes. The Biden admin isn't going to suddenly say "hold my beer, bro" and then do the one thing that would guarantee a Russian nuclear response.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Considering such incursions would only be temporary, for the purpose of securing a victory where negotiations will be a return to 1991 borders, it can be allowed. Ukraine is not waging a war of conquest.
                And if Russia even uses one nuke then they are getting at least one thrown back their way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >MUH NOOOOOOOOOOKS
                Do it, gay

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that's most likely correct. It already did not support georgia, because of the fuckery in 2008

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's a gross violation of international law
              Are you going to unironically claim Ukraine crossing the border into Russia would be a "war of aggression"? Show me what international law you're citing that says the defending state against a war of aggression can't enter the territory of their attacker.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia and Ukraine aren't at war, so if Ukraine randomly invaded Russia out of nowhere then it would absolutely be unjust provocation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe ukraine will just have a special military operation then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/e1Oaokj.png

                >it's not a war because putler said so

                https://i.imgur.com/PhtcKQv.gif

                >Russia and Ukraine aren't at war

                I'm going to take you at your word and assume you're not trolling, but that is not an effective argument. Ukraine's major allies - Poland, the UK, the US - do not recognize Putin's definition of a "special military operation."

                >a state or period of fighting between states or nations

                not that I imagine you've ever read the definition, this war really made bait quality go down the dumpster

                yes Yes YES FEED ME (YOUS) FUCKING RETARDS AHAHAHAHA

                https://i.imgur.com/A2uhuW3.jpg

                >Russia controls enough to economically and catastrophically crippled it.
                lol well this is true that anything russia controls just goes down the economic shitter, i'll give you that.

                I agree

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I was only pretending to be retarded

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ha ha, I was only pretending to be retarded

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You have to be 18 to post on this board

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ha ha, I was only pretending to be retarded

                >I was only pretending to be retarded

                more (yous) gimme MOAR

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not a war because putler said so

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia and Ukraine aren't at war

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm going to take you at your word and assume you're not trolling, but that is not an effective argument. Ukraine's major allies - Poland, the UK, the US - do not recognize Putin's definition of a "special military operation."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not an invasion of russia, just a special operation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a state or period of fighting between states or nations

                not that I imagine you've ever read the definition, this war really made bait quality go down the dumpster

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We don't care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia is just being "DeStalinified"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is some kindergarden level magical thinking. You do know that Ukraine is already doing operations over the boarder right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                De facto > De jure

                De jure, the German Reich never was formally dissolved/ceased to exist either after 1945, but DE FACTO it doesn't actually exist in real life

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The west will drop support for Ukraine if they start violating Russian sovereignty.
              Russia and Ukraine are at war right now. Russia's sovereignty cannot be violated, they've suspended any questions of its sanctity by attempting to annex Ukraine. What, did the British censure the US for "violating the sovereignty" of Japan? Get real.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No we won't. Russia started shit, and using someone else's dumb bullshit as precedent to throw it back at them is classic Western tactics.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The west will drop support for Ukraine if they start violating Russian sovereignty.
              Why though?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Right, that's why multiple government officials from the west have said targets in russia are legitimate. And I guess we can forget about the Ukrainian helicopter raid of Belgorod and their kamikazi drone on the oil refinery in Rostov-on-Don

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              US generals are talking with Ukrainian generals so I think you're a retarded gay. US leadership knows whatever plan(s) they have.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                American generals can’t even understand what a woman is how they hell would they know strategy. Ukrainians can do the fighting without consulting retards

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet you're still losing. Ain't that something?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're actually correct, because the West will pivot to invading Russia just to try and hold back the Poles

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The west will drop support for Ukraine if they start violating Russian sovereignty. They share a border so unless Russia gives up Ukraine can't logically stop at the border. It would allow Russia to keep shelling/bombing them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                there is a difference between border clashes and actual invasions. plenty of countries constantly exchange artillery fire.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes just as happened in the bydlo puppet stayes during previous cease fires. The problem is that Russia then launched a full scale invasion. So Russia would have to at first agree to leave and not return. But it wont make such an agreement and it can't be trusted anymore so...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not even putin will be dumb enough to attack ukraine ever again after this disaster, ukraine is going to be in HATO/EU soon enough anyways.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just because Russia routinely breaks them doesn't mean the west will let Ukraine do the same
              This is where you are wrong. If Russia started launching chemical weapons, the West would start launching chemical weapons back. Payback is a bitch.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >violating Russian sovereignty.
              >It's a gross violation of international law
              Have you ever heard of a "war"?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them."

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are getting infinite natobux hunny

          They will pay for all of this in debt, nothing is free, reddit chud.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            USA will just forgive their debts and then pump even more aid into them. Ukraine will be a useful march for America.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See

            they are most likely getting frozen russia bux worth 300 billion. that's enough for them to prosper 23 years.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what analysis I should've expected from a barely-sentient subhuman, but you still failed to meet expectations. The resources and equipment that the U.S. and NATO provided to Ukraine has already paid for itself. The proxy war weakens not only Russia, but also dampens China's ambitions. Furthermore, much of the donated equipment and stockpiles will soon be replaced with modern equivalents, feeding the MIC and giving NATO countries an excuse to modernize their militaries. Just look at what the average European NATO country has in their military budget for the next couple years. And who but the humble U.S. will sell them much of those weapons of war?

            Even all that aside, tax player dollars contributing to the wholesale slaughter of Vatniks and the utter humiliation of Russia is worth its weight in gold, IMO.

            So from the U.S.'s perspective, a measly few dozen billion here and there to weaken its two largest enemies and make some serious contract cash down the road is already a bargain, no repayment necessary.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To quote Donald Trump "wrong"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Howso?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the US can, with relatively little investment, get a loyal and reasonably competent ally directly on Russia's border
            Like once the war is over they can place a military base within spitting distance of Russia's border
            That's a god damn good investment if there ever was one, makes more sense than pumping money in to the Afghanistan black hole, at least in Ukraine they already got hearts and minds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reddit spaces every post
            >calls others reddit
            kekking hard at this shill

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are getting infinite natobux hunny

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia itself is economically and catastrophically crippled. Thats why they lock up the Russian Kerrygold, its basically real gold bars to vatniks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they are most likely getting frozen russia bux worth 300 billion. that's enough for them to prosper 23 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia controls enough to economically and catastrophically crippled it.
        lol well this is true that anything russia controls just goes down the economic shitter, i'll give you that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine is an economic cripple since the Cumans
        Anything above holomdor is an upgrade

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia controls enough to economically and catastrophically crippled it.
        Cripple itself you wanted to say

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you claiming that the aim of the special military operation was just to make Ukraine an eternal debt slave of NATO ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So long as they have the western border they should continue receiving infinite supplies from NATO cuz obviously Europe and America want to keep this bullshit going.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice grammar, ESL gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/nxhbXPC.jpg

        I don't know what analysis I should've expected from a barely-sentient subhuman, but you still failed to meet expectations. The resources and equipment that the U.S. and NATO provided to Ukraine has already paid for itself. The proxy war weakens not only Russia, but also dampens China's ambitions. Furthermore, much of the donated equipment and stockpiles will soon be replaced with modern equivalents, feeding the MIC and giving NATO countries an excuse to modernize their militaries. Just look at what the average European NATO country has in their military budget for the next couple years. And who but the humble U.S. will sell them much of those weapons of war?

        Even all that aside, tax player dollars contributing to the wholesale slaughter of Vatniks and the utter humiliation of Russia is worth its weight in gold, IMO.

        So from the U.S.'s perspective, a measly few dozen billion here and there to weaken its two largest enemies and make some serious contract cash down the road is already a bargain, no repayment necessary.

        Ukraine is literally perfect for the west to save and then Marshal Plan back to success. It is a buffer state to Russia (and is doing its job right now), and has a low expected cost of living (compared to other western countries). It had an established industrial base pre-war.
        We should Marshal Plan it back to a functioning economy, move factories there, and produce goods for the western market in a western-aligned country. Some of those factories looking to move out of China because the Chinese government are being pieces of shit could integrate there.
        Even better, the economic buildup will allow Ukraine to build their military back and continue to act as an effect buffer state against any further Russian aggression, should Russia even exist in its current form in a decade.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based. ukraine is pretty big in semiconductor materials too

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >NATO asks if you wanna join
          >Politely decline
          >Russia invades you anyway
          >"Man, we should have taken a deal with NATO"
          >"Nah, it's good bro, here, have these weapons that completely outclass anything Russia has."
          >"Oh wow, thanks, but we're still gonna need to rebuild after we wi-"
          >"Yeah got that sorted too, have like, a fuckload of money and a majority of our industry that was formerly outsourced to China"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine becomes everything Russia is not
          >a militarily and economically powerful nation for which the world relies on and eagerly wishes to do business with, able to forge its own destiny
          COME HOME SLAV MAN

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even better, the west will get a supply of young blonde haired Slavic women eager to experience the western world.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hiv_statistic_map.jpg

              i hope they actually do blood test on them before flying them over.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They got lots of slave labor for their agriculture products

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Quads of conquest

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Quads of truth

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine has oil, wheat, aerospace manufacturing, warm water shipyards, semiconductor and steel production. they want to use western tech and they fucking hate russia.

          We're paying them to "buy" our old shit, which is replaced with more U.S. manufactured shit, which creates jobs. Only thing stopping us from opening up the catalogue is russia giving the west an excuse. by next year, Ukraine might be flying f-16s, F-18s, A-10s, and AWACS. Now that the Swedes are on board, the might even invest in Grippens.

          all of this is fucking great. it only cost us... $18 Billion

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Which is less then what you spent on Afghanistan yearly so I'd say investment well spent

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >$18 Billion
            US military spending was some 720 billion last year.
            Imagine crashing Russia with no survivors, accepting another country under your sphere of influence, creating buffer state on the borders of Europe and potentially also a great source of goods and raw materials, all for a mere 18 billion.
            For the US/west and more active EU states, this is the deal of a century, if not centuries.
            Monke really did not thought this through at all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sweden would LOVE to get Gripens to Ukraine.

            Anyone following the Gripen-E knows how desperate SAAB is getting to sell it. It's export market share has been completely devoured by the F-35. Ukraine is NOT getting the F-35 any time soon, and even if it did, only the STVOL B-variant has a chance at being useful.

            Gripens can do basically anything Ukraine needs. Cheap to maintain even with minimal training and equpiment, and can use every NATO weapon. Gripens are literally designed to kill Russians in this exact kind of environment.

            I imagine the US would supply hogs, legacy hornets, and vipers in bulk. That leaves high-end gen 4.5 procurement to the Swedes. The US tend to spread the wealth to domestic manufactures in their own programs, so now they have their new ally to consider too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon your post is pure fantasy, Ukraine is the most corrupt government in the world, at all levels you have officials taking large bribes and misusing government funds. All that would happen is that NATO would send Ukraine even more funds than they already do, and the Ukrainian officials would "misplace" that money into their own pockets. Before this war started you could find hundreds of articles being posted every year about how shitty the corruption is in Ukraine, it's worse than the USA was during prohibition
          Also if NATO wanted Ukraine to be a buffer zone, they wouldn't have pushed for Ukraine to join NATO and even launch a coupe back in 2014 which resulted in the boarder conflict. Russia's peace terms actually give the buffer zone you want anon, but that'd mean a Russian victory which I doubt based off your post that you'd want that. A Ukrainian victory, however would result in more bad blood between Russia and NATO, which would only result in Russia doubling down in their defensive alliance with China. They would make it an absolute military alliance to win the next war, and Russia would prepare for another Ukraine war that would be fought in another 10-20 years. The buffer zone idea only works right now with Russia getting at least one of their demands, the independent boarder states as a buffer between them and Ukraine

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine becomes Japan post-1905

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is good land but what you say would only be true if they also took Odessa.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me finish it for you.
        >Russia controls enough to economically and catastrophically crippled it
        self.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bah gawd, the Giga-Kotel.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Called what?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming the Ukies pulled something like this and Putin didn't immediately respond with NOOOOOOKS would the Russians have enough of a standing army left inside their borders to stop it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Putin didn't immediately respond with NOOOOOOKS
      Those are off the table, it would be like putting a gun in his mouth.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wait a second, that pattern...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I said it looked like a Guided Missile Cruiser

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Under rated post

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PrepHoleopers shitpost about cauldrons
    >now when Ukraine does it suddenly its "going to work"
    Lmao

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PrepHole shitposted about cauldons because russia failed to form even a small one.
      Ukraine seems to be succesfully boiling a lot of vatniks though.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chechyna next
    drive to chenobyl

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one would expect it

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia can do a special operations inside Ukraine.
    Ukraine can do a special operations inside Russia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let it be written.
      Let it be done.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if Ukraine actually pulls this off, I will personally banish Moloch from this Earth, with the final showdown in Tel Aviv

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HATO will never approve any operations in Russian territory due to nuclear threat and a very good mobilization excuse. sure they might approve a couple of smookers, but not an invasion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nukes maybe, but mobilization is a meme and more threat to russia itself than anyone else.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        russia could always just start using more conscript then, very few are used rn if we don't count dnrlnr serfs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is no conscripts to use, and having more dumb untrained meat shields is more of detriment than benefit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this spring alone 134500 russians were conscripted.
            there will always be enough conscripts, and russia fought literally all it's wars with conscripts, so there is use.
            these conscripts are from villages, nobody cares if they die, there is no threat to rich moscow kids, so there is no threat to regime stability.
            if ukraine starts successfully taking back crimea there is already high chance that moscow will start to use tactical nukes just to crush their will to fight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia now doesn't have the numbers it did in past wars and in those past wars everyone fought. So, the at least middle class urban kids will he next. Russia is inevitably going to have a regime change or civil war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and in those past wars everyone fought
                very false. since afghanistan all the wars were fought by absolute bottom of the barrel of soviet/russian society. that's why there was no major anti-war/conscription movement even during 1995 Chechen disaster.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >moscow will start to use tactical nukes just to crush their will to fight.
              That's another losing move. Even in a slight chance that it did not go into full fledged nuclear exchange because using nukes is even less tolerable thing for the west than straight up open genocide, it surely resort into western(and maybe even chinese because those guys have nuclear umbrella agreement with Ukraine) intervervention and kicking Russians out of the ukraine and stealth bombing every russian nuclear asset.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >uses tactical nukes
              how to get fucking BTFOd by the entire planet 101

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Screw their nukes. They haven't used them yet and doing so now is both admittance of failure, followed promptly by collective suicide. Russia can either pull out of the war or they can deal with when it does spill onto their land.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what collective suicide? HATO won't launch their nukes if Kyiv gets nuked, they will be very concerned though.
        russians won't care about nuking their neighbors, they are "apolitical".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What makes you think we won't? Allowing nukes to be used in an offensive war by the aggressor once they start losing is a precedent that cannot under any circumstances be permitted. If Russia fires a nuke NATO will crush it by any means necessary and reduce it to city-states.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s bs and you know it. If Russia cooks a few million people with a nuke the very LEAST response the west will give is a full scale Gulf War tier coalition of the willing assault on Russia proper. That actually might happen anyway, because the global economy is about to tank and the Vatican just pulled all of its funding from and everywhere and brought its assets back home.

          Regardless, if ANYONE thinks you can detonate a nuke and do not have the western world retaliate against you you’re absolutely crazy. Just like the Russians. Captcha: JYASS

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. I called it.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Kyiv in 72 hours!
    >This is a setback, two more weeks!
    >It's not a retreat, merely a reorganization!
    >The Kyiv thrust was a feint, the troops lost were expendable!
    >We will take Odessa!
    >We didn't need those landing ships!
    >We don't need the Moskva!
    >Snake Island is ours!
    >Those Spetsnaz were Ukrainian!
    >We never needed Snake island!
    >We never wanted Odessa!
    >The pace of our advance is fine!
    >We'll advance when we're ready!
    >You didn't hit our planes in Crimea!
    >We moved our planes from Crimea after the attack, we didn't need that airport!
    >The Kherson offensive exists only on twitter!
    >The Kharkiv rout is actually defense in depth!
    (You are here)
    >The Kherson front, at least, will hold!
    >Crimea will hold!
    >You'll never invade Russia proper or we'll nuke you!
    >You'll never execute us for our crimes!
    >You'll never dissolve the Russian Federation!
    >Russia will never be turned into an open pit mine by Ukraine and its western allies, along with the backstabbing Chinese!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek imagine believing this. Angola is about to flip the goddamn table and NONE of you even see it coming

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no not the military and economic powerhouse of Angola!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      REKT

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >based cauldron thread
    Ivan is comfy in his new cauldron

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the love of god, dont show this map to the ukrainian VDV

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if the Ukrainian VDV was capable of pulling off a successful helo assault in all this, imaging the seething

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of all the off-topic garbage on this board right now, I have to see that some of those blue arrows is such a level of retarded nonsense that it made me give a (You).

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's supposed to be a secret!!

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    would their masters allow them to step foot in russia or would that be a step to far?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Far as I'm concerned, whatever happens, happens, and is a consequence of Russia's actions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine has already launched multiple attacks in Russia. The idea that a few troops is too far but a helicopter and missile strikes is fine is just baffling.

        >The idea that a few troops is too far
        i mean everyone thought they would fold in 3 days, now look where we are. Sisters Stalingrad/Volgograd isnt that far away.........could we see in our lifetime another siege of it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine has already launched multiple attacks in Russia. The idea that a few troops is too far but a helicopter and missile strikes is fine is just baffling.

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