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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    smoll and dumb but THICKK

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They just build a solid value for money plane.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it more expensive than a C-130J?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Operational costs are lower though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How though?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Its just a good, solid plane.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Kawasaki C2 is cheaper and better. Who knows. Brazilian prostitutes and bribery?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bribery
      Anon, do you really think someone can outbribe the US MIC?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        French do it all the time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >exportlet plane

      Even C-27J and An-12. got exported, nobody wants to buy overpriced weebshit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Brazil is positioning itself as a politically "neutral" option.

      >Japanese business dealings as a gajin
      >Japanese military dealings
      Ooof. I'd love to see it but it'll be awhile before people who are decision makers even consider them.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hungarian unit is probably done assembled by now. This pic was from early last year.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unironically, no one trusts US Govt not to do something stupid and frick up support, even support of a C-130 which could be sourced from lots of nations, sort of.

    I'm guessing brand new C-130 has lots of software that could be bricked.

    What if Uncle Sam demands your nation tags along in his latest bad idea and you don't want to? Will you new C-130 suddenly have issues that ground it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's because a C-130 consumes more fuel, requires a longer runway, and doesn't benefit from modern microcomputers/electronics in the way a completely new plane does. Sure a complete C-130 redesign could accomplish the same task but if you're adding completely new engines and avionics to the same chassis, you're better off just going with a completely new chassis that can support a brand-new, modern-spec engine and brand-new, modern-spec electronics to control it. Anything less is a waste for western countries that have ready access to computer factories for replacement parts. The C-390 can also carry more cargo and fly higher and faster, making it an overall upgrade.

      This is less a Lockmart problem as it is a Boeing problem because Boeing's equivalent is/would be a militarized 737-9max, which is ironic as that's what the 747 was supposed to be. But nobody wants a plane with wings so low that can't STOL which is a huge liability for this role, and Boeing doesn't design new planes anymore so everything just locks up. Such is the case when a monopoly exists, and that is the real thing holding American plane sales back not the US government.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm honestly surprised Boeing hasn't had a go at marketing a militarised 747F given that the c-17 isn't in production anymore.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Boeing had a deal with Embraer to shill the C-390 to it's clients, but that fell through after their fallout and lawsuit from Embraer.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Boeing is run by idiots that don't know how to militarize a 777-9x and fricked up the KC-767 contract so bad a hybrid wing drone won against it. This is an administrative problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Boeing shoulda militarized the frick out of the 757.

            Its got same fuselage diameter as 707 so all the legacy shit plugs in, and the military doesn't need fat-ass wide body for people hauler, and 757 got more balls and range than 737 and sits nice and high off the ground for bolting shit onto.

            My airline mechanics say the 757 has fairly old school heavy gauge heavy duty build, which might bump fuel costs for airline but would help in military use with mods and upgrades.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yep. The 757 is still one of the highest performance airliners out there too. Much greater thrust-to-weight ratio than normal. One of its design goals was to basically make the biggest plane possible that could still operate out of smaller "regional" type airports at high altitudes. For example, you can get anything in and out of Denver, but not smaller airports like Eagle County Regional which serves the big ski areas in Vail and Aspen. But 757s operate there easily - pic related. Pretty much the hotrod of airliners. Sad they don't even make it anymore.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Aspen
                Thanks for reminding me I’m poor and can’t buy a house in that paradise FRICK

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you're just out for the scenery, a lot of Utah is still cheap.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                WTF is so great about Aspen? I lived for a year on top of a mountain (in a normal house) in Conifer, CO at IIRC 8,300ft. That year was very light on snow :(. Seemed OK but tbh I was eager to get back to Gay Area, CA (that was when Silicon Valley was hopping and not yet all gayged up. IIRC there was exactly one (Americanized) Indian kid in my 3 school district, and I can't remember meeting a single Poo at several computer firms. There was one Indian restaurant you'd have to drive to Palo Alto.

                BTW, my airport guys confirmed the 757 would be the Patrician's choice for private jet. 707 body build outs and templates plug in, but otherwise modern and high performance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > the Patrician's choice for private jet
                That would be flying a trijet -> the Falcon 8X (or the 900LX)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        interesting, last I heard USA was still buying C-130. Does seem like overdue for a clean sheet semi-tactical mid-size multi-use cargo/utility from the YUGE Pentagon budget.

        I hear that Airbus Turbo Propper has nothing but problems.

        Do something basically like the 390 but of course has to be by American company because of Pork, and USA should be able to make something better than a bunch of Spic-Speaking jungle monkeys.

        Unlike the F-35 cluster-frick that was doomed by trying to make VTOL and normal planes "common design", I don't see such issues with a "general purpose" airframe.

        I'd stretch it to heavy cargo (AFV) to tanker to AWACS to missile truck to even super-carrier capable and carrier based ASW.

        Folding wing and extra heavy duty landing gear version of common design? Yes.

        Normal and VTOL of same design? Put down the crack pipe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The c-130 cargo compartment was designed in the 50s and can't fit modern armoured vehicles. The c-390 is almost as fast as a commercial airliner and was built around the types of equipment modern armies use. Plus have airliner tier passenger and crew comfort.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > What went right?
    Embraer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why do I get the feeling at Embraer they, in spite of being from the land of Human Monkey Hybrids, have exactly zero DEI, and probably no Western style "HR Dept" to wiener-block hiring.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Embraer hires straight from ITA/IME (Brazil's equivalent of MIT). Even Boeing now has an office close to the campus to try to get some.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kino

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    747 and 757 are out of production. Now would be a good time for a clean sheet new design.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not until the 2030's according to Boeing themselves.
      Until then Airbus has a new model out and the Chinese has their 919 and 929 flying for thirdie airliners.

      Boeing Commercial is fricking done.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shit, I remember what seemed like just a couple years ago people were getting a big woody over the 747-8, the "dash eight". Are they already through with production?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Boeing is incompetent

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A bunch of Brazilian prosties sucked a whole lot of DoD dick

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Department of Dick

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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