Get rid of the ozark trail stuff and find more reliable and durable equipment imo. Bring change of clothes. More water and an mre or two. Probably dont need bat, machete, saw and hatchet. I'd say keep the hatchet.
what can it do that you can do with your hands/saw? it takes more energy to cut something than a saw.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hatchet used for shaving wood, splitting, chopping, etc. Can nipnoff small branches and limbs in nearly machete like fashion if its close to a trunk, can be used to break ground, can be used on bones and animals, can chop bigger limbs/trees, etc. Saw just for sawing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i got ya. in my mind i assumed everyone had a fixed tang knife that could do a lot of that already. its been a long day.
Get rid of the hatchet or upgrade it to a full sized axe. Also get a good poncho, some hiking poles, rope and a small tarp. Is there water filtration and cooking supplies there? Medicine?
>what i got
a change of clothes, cash, important documents on a usb drive, water, water purification, and a multi tool that wont break the first time you use it.
this screams never been innawoods or even a bad storm in your life. i hope you're 18 and on a tight budget.
Lmao, I lived in a tent innawoods for two years through two Montana winters. I'm just not good at knowing what I will need for SHTF. I'm wanting this to be a long term bag.
If this is your first big out bag, you did better than most folks on their first.
You can ditch the hatchet or hand saw, the fishing supplies, club, and that shovel like most collapseable typed likely wont last long under real use. Missing?
A proper .1 micron water filter. Lifestraw lets giardia through. Try sawyer or katydyn.
Lighters. Fast and effective.
Nightvision. Even a carson mini aura nv-200 or nightfox is better than nothing but read up on it first.
Flashlight.
Socks and underwear. Boots. Clothes for travelling.
Map and lensatic compass. Maybe a diving compass too.
Mountain house food.
Swqp the pan for an aluminum cup or small pot for boiling water and cooking. A spoon or fork.
Hygiene stuff. Unscented baby wipes. Hand sanitizer. Bar of soap. Toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, razors, and shaving gel.
Tylenol.
Cash.
Baggie with essential document copies.
Thanks for the advice! Will definitely make some changes. I do have maps and compass in the pic, as well as Tylenol. Didn't know that about lifestraws, I do have some iodine purification tablets as well. The club is also a flashlight so that's why it is included. It's aluminum so pretty light, just takes up a lot of space. Not pictured is a hammock and bedrolll.
While I live in an area with lots of wood you may not always be able to use fire to cook if there is movement around and smoke will pin point your location. Sure trioxine fuel bars are good but again you will be down about 5-10mins boiling h2o pending wind and weather/temp. Also do all cooking 1-2hrs before sundown to avoid visual signiture
Who are you trying to hide from? Other boogaloo oper8ors out to kill anyone they see without question?
2 years ago
Anonymous
That and anyone looking to stop you from making it to your bugiut location. I like to plan for if Inneed to take 2-3x the time to get to my bugout place should roads be closed and patrolled
2 years ago
Anonymous
Literally when is there ever going to be a scenareo like this
>lived in a tent innawoods for two years through two Montana winters >packs bunch of unused meme gear&weapons cause cant figure out what he will need for long term survival situation
If this is your first big out bag, you did better than most folks on their first.
You can ditch the hatchet or hand saw, the fishing supplies, club, and that shovel like most collapseable typed likely wont last long under real use. Missing?
A proper .1 micron water filter. Lifestraw lets giardia through. Try sawyer or katydyn.
Lighters. Fast and effective.
Nightvision. Even a carson mini aura nv-200 or nightfox is better than nothing but read up on it first.
Flashlight.
Socks and underwear. Boots. Clothes for travelling.
Map and lensatic compass. Maybe a diving compass too.
Mountain house food.
Swqp the pan for an aluminum cup or small pot for boiling water and cooking. A spoon or fork.
Hygiene stuff. Unscented baby wipes. Hand sanitizer. Bar of soap. Toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, razors, and shaving gel.
Tylenol.
Cash.
Baggie with essential document copies.
Start from scratch with what normal people would actually consider camping with, and what you'd actually be willing to camp for a night with even if just at a campground, rather than fricking around with survivor man shit. Then add cash and a sealed bag large enough for any important documents. A lot of that shit you have is dead weight and space, or massively weight/space inefficient. With what you have there, I guarantee you'd be willing to sell yourself into sexual slavery rather than continuing on after a couple days.
I realize it's a lot of weight, but I don't need to travel far to get to a secure location. Just want a single bag that can get me started and keep me going long term.
Not that bad, I'd toss the life straw and get a sawyer. The minis can screw on to smart water bottles, also be attached to camel packs too, also filters better than the mini.
I treat my hiking daypack as a mini bug-out bag, here's the contents. Temperate/hot climate.
Boonie hat
Gloves
Fleece jacket
Sunscreen
Lightweight balaclava
Glasses
Sunglasses
Water filter
Iodine
Caffeine
Aspirin
Antihistamines
Antidiarrheals
Antibiotics, both pills and ointment
Band-aids
Gauze
Israeli bandage
Ace bandage
Baby wipes
Hand sanitizer
Electrolyte tablets
Two steel water bottles
Duct tape wrapped around the bottles
Peanut trail mix
Beef jerky
Clif bars x3
Glock 17 and holster
Spare Glock magazine and mag holder
About 60 feet of paracord
Good carabiner
Two Bic lighters
Storm matches
Spare batteries
Leatherman
Flashlight
Rain poncho
Mylar blanket
Microfiber towel
Ear plugs
$100 in cash
Notable, conscious omissions: fixed blade knife, hatchet, solar power bank, phone charging cable, metal cup and spork, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivvy sack, more paracord, change of clothes, water key, compass with magnetic declination adjustment, map, camelbak, toothbrush, toothpaste, MREs/Mountain House meals, signaling mirror, radio, binoculars, thermal underwear and shirt, beanie, boots.
Those things I keep in a banker box in my trunk, but I don't keep them in my bag for weight reasons. When winter rolls around I pack more of the cold weather shit.
To my mind the most likely reasons someone might actually end up using a bugout bag is flooding, wildfires, housefires or some other localised disaster that forces them out of their home. You should be prepared for something like that, not just the collapse of society/innawoods meme.
With that in mind I'd suggest >As much cash as you can risk losing if someone breaks into your home while you're at work and steals your BOB - at the very least you'd want enough to pay for gas and a hotel room when everyone's price gouging. >Phone powerbank >Backups of important documents >Change of clothes
Other than that >You probably don't need an e-tool, hatchet, saw and a machete. The club would also be unnecessary but it gets a pass as a flashlight. >What's up with the pile of carabiners? >I'd probably carry more food. Throw some mountainhouse meals or trail mix in there >Is that flask your only water container? You need a lot more capacity than that even if you're somewhere with plentiful natural water sources I'd at least want a camelbak or a few good-sized bottles. >Headlamp is infinitely more useful than a flashlight. I've got both in my BOB though, the flashlight is some superbright one from Fenix.
This man has a good setup. My BOB is fairly similar although it includes most of his conscious omissions and more cold weather gear.
Just wrap duct tape around some old plastic cards (credit cards, driver's licenses, etc). Pretty easy to slip in and out of pockets.
this is what i do. cut a pen in half and rolled a coat hanger around. I hate how ducktape leaves residue on shit so I dont wrap it around anything like lighters
forgot to add the reason i dont like the etool is because the more moving parts there are, more likely it will fail*
https://i.imgur.com/IvgcPcT.jpg
Honest question, why do some of you guys dislike E tools? I've never used one but conceptually they seem like a good thing to have. I don't know what I don't know so I want to know your opinions.
I think bandaids are generally useless. When needed I just use gauze and duct tape cut to size with some holes poked in it.
I keep several additional lighters. Some are Bic and some are the windproof torch kind. All of them are high-visibility orange and have duct tape wrapped around them; duct tape is flammable and can be used in place of tinder if absolutely necessary (make a lengthwise loop for best results).
I keep a pair of face-fitting safety goggles inside an extra pair of wool socks. If you're in a place with a lot of smoke, sand, dust, etc., you'll be glad you have them.
Two large cotton bandanas. Lot of uses for these; one especially worth mentioning is that using it as a prefilter for water that you need to put through your Sawyer or whatever will keep your filter cleaner (it's a bigger deal than it sounds). I keep needle and thread too; you can patch up clothes/bags with material from the bandanas if needed, and it takes up almost no space or weight.
Aspercreme or similar. If you find yourself having to cover much longer distances than you are used to, it's a lifesaver.
Sharpies, pen and pencil, superglue. Superglue plus duct tape is a very solid medium-term fix for holes in shoes. Superglue can also be used for small cuts, and can make your bandaids (or duct tape bandaids) stick like they need to in wet conditions.
I keep a small amount of tarred bankline in addition to paracord for those instances where I don't want something to stretch or give. always handy to have more cordage.
>Lots of walmart china quality equipment >All unused
My worry isn't just what you own but how reliably you can use it to take care of yourself. I get prepping on a budget but even if you were experienced in camping and basic surival (assuming you aren't because unused gear) it may not hold up.
>Ditch the metal flask, replace with 1L single layered stainless bottle >Lose the cough syrup >Replace the memestraw with a sawyer mini >If that nightstick looking thing is a flashlight replace it with a headlamp. Preferably one that defaults to (or at least has) a red light option >Unless you're staying in the woods, lose the chink hatchet and stick with the knife & saw. Much easier and doable for Spring/Summer/Fall >Lose the shovel >Get extra ammo >Condense the gorilla tape down. Wrap ~15' around a small dowel or bic lighter. >Replace the atlas with regional topo maps or at least a smaller one for your state. You don't need to know the roads 2000 miles away. >If you don't have one, compass with a notepad and mechanical pencil
overall not too bad, i have to say it is better than most ive seen, it looks like you have actually poot a little thought into it
ditch the E-Tool, yeah you might have to dig something for whatever reason but E tools are shit at everything they do, only way to actually use it is to make it into the L shape and hack at the ground, imo its dead weight but im not sure what your plan is so you do you
also you might want to throw in some foot lotion/cream because if you are walking for days to weeks at a time keeping your feet in good condition is vitally important
also take care of your stomach, if you start drinking water from random places, even if its filtered out, you will still sometimes have a upset stomach and a bad case of the shits simply because you arent used to the water. People get this all the time, look up travelers diarrhea. Throw some tums or some kaopectate or something in you bag, they dont weigh much and they will last you long enough to get used to the new area without you laying around all day wasting time because you feel too shitty to do anything
also dont bring any sort of smelly deotorant or perfumes or anything scented, you may not notice it now because almost eveybody wears the stuff and theres alot of stuff going on in the modern world that has a smell, but if you have been innawoods a while you will smell people nearby
ditch any sort of boxy packaging, tear apart any sort of MREs you have and just keep the good stuff inside, ditch the napkins and other bs that takes up space
make a blowout kit for heavier wounds, in SHTF if you take a center mass shot you are basically doomed, but for "less severe" heavy wounds you should put together a good kit for massive bleeding and a basic surgical kit with stitches and needles etc
Make sure you know how to use the shit too, dont just have it and let it sit. its important to have atleast some of the current kit you have, take out what you dont need in there.
small boo boos can become big problems if not taken care of properly
don't buy a pre made trauma kit, research what will be needed and will be practical to have and buy it individually
most of the commercially available kits come with shitty bags and are more expensive because they are pre made.
consider buying body armor, you wont want to wear it most of the time unless you are more or less static at a defensive position, you dont want to lug it around unless you know you might get shot, its VERY good to have when practical however its not always
I would say get it and if you don't have the opportunity to wear it, stash it and come back for it later.
I've said it once I'll say it a thousand times. My friend get you a wild edible's field guide for North America. Make sure it is detailed, and includes pictures for every plant. Don't be a fool. Even if you have average knowledge on the subject you can always make a mistake. Always better to erase all doubt and know for certain the plant you are about to eat. It will take you far. Mine is very thin, not much larger than one of those old goosebumps paperbacks. I've told and forced/gifted many to my friends for the same reason. Knowing just how much food is freely available in your area can save your life. When the shit hits, and every frick tard with a gun devastates the animal population in their attempt to "hunt" being able to eat and store a bounty from spring well into late fall can be most beneficial. Also, a small dry bag for said book, as well as other things that can't get wet such as matches and electronics. Another thing to consider that I do is to ditch the batteries and battery powered headlamp and get a rechargeable one as well as a solar panel power bank + another small power bank to draw your power from the solar one. It aides in charging time as well as extending the lifetime of your solar panel power bank. But it allows you to charge on the go through the day while ditch heavy batteries. Plus after about 2-3 years in a non climate controlled area with any sort of humidity most batteries will decay. Just food for thought brother.
crank radio
rite in the rain notebook/pen
solar charger/power bank/charger cords
portable wood stove (i have the OneTigris)
extra pair of socks...your feet will thank you.
Look up fireboxstoves dot com for quick and solid true folding stoves for quick setups and if you need to move quickly you could dump coals in a hole and carry the stove with the well designed slots for carry sticks which double for meat skewers.
For me it's >3-ish season >clif bars, beef jerky sticks and trail mix, caffiene pills and gatorade powder with extra salts mixed in >sawyer mini, several 1L water bags(soft bottles) 3 1L smartwaters (bottles are handy size and durable), iodine and chlorine tabs >mylar coated bivy, homemade "woobie" ul-type quilt with heavier thinsulate insulation, trashbag groundsheet, 6x10 silpoly tarp with ridgeline, stakes, cord, UL 1/4" close cell foam torso pad, and a bugnet for my face >3 pairs of socks, one pair underwear, silkweight top and bottom, fleece cap, nitrile coated outer gloves and 2pr gi wool glove liners, lightweight rain jacket >broken in trail runners strapped to the bag >IFAK and trauma kit >acebeam headlamp, spare cr123s >small soap bar, toothbrush/paste/floss, nailclippers, travel antiperspirant, washcloth and chamois travel towel, 4 "days" of TP in ziplock snack bags, antofungal cream >hillpeople chest bag with G19, flashlight, 4 mags, basic compass, map, backup usb drive in a metal pill container, knife, some cash >maps, compass, notebook, phone charger/cord/battery bank/hesdphones, another backup usb drive in metal pill container, cash, sleeve for id and documents >1.4mm green cordage, gear repair tape, needles/brsided fishing line/thimble
Winter bag gets heavier clothes, boots and military outer bivy and grey sleeping bag
>whole roll of gorilla tape > a machete >a saw >a hatchet >a fricking bat? >two packs of batteries for....? >handwarmers lol your a pussy >a slingless AK, stockless Black person draco >a bottle of robotussin > two entire spools of fishing line >a fricking gas mask lmfao
This is is fricking embarrassing OP. Instead of LARPING like a homosexual go get some experience actually rucking in the woods. Theres probably like 20 lbs in useless gear and you haven't even packed clothing or real rations let alone water. Theres no sleeping bag, that ozark shit will fail you. youre going to die loser
Don't need a gas mask. Dust mask might be helpful.
Frick matches, put a couple lighters in there.
Something to charge your phone.
Some insect repellant and sunscreen depending on AO.
Handgun
Good way to think of survival are the following in order of priority: Shelter, Water, Fire, and Food.
Honest question, why do some of you guys dislike E tools? I've never used one but conceptually they seem like a good thing to have. I don't know what I don't know so I want to know your opinions.
personally its dead weight since its a jack of all trades but master of none and if you are using it to dig youll only be able to dig 1 to 3 meters deep comfortably. you can use em to chop wood/roots but they dull easily also if its not taken care of can break
I hate them because I used them to dig fox holes. I think it's better than not having a shovel I still don't like them though. They're a b***h to use. Also if you're not a manlet if you're even just normal sized your hunched over trying to use it for hours on end depending on how big of a hole you need so the compact part that's the selling point really fricking sucks to use. They suck at scooping up dirt/clay at some point you're probably just going to want to use your hands and just knocking dirt loose with it. I mean I'd rather have one than not just because realistically at some point I'm going to have to take a shit, or I'd want a dakota fire hole, or digging a shallow thing to divert water if it rains hard enough especially if I'm in a tent or sleeping on the ground. Most people are bugging out to a specific location otherwise it'd just be a general camping bag. Really depends on if you plan on camping at all with it. I use to carry an e-tool around in my car for winter since I didn't have space for a proper shovel and I was 99% certain I wouldn't ever need to use it.
Not sure where to unpack all of this but here we go. I don't have any idea what the environment is where you are, but I hope it is warm and dry. >road atlas
adequate >flasks
dead weight >machete
adequate, probably will bend or break soon >shovel
that model will probably break soon >emergency ration bars
you can do better with something that tastes better >folding saw
I have one like it, they kinda suck but sorta work >generic hatchet
it'll probably work >compass, I think
might be reliable for cardinals, can't see anything to identify it better >signal mirror
good for personal hygiene >paracord
its paracord >reflective tents
use a tarp those won't offer you any warm unless you burrito in them and they are going to tear easily >space blanket
don't rely on that as your only source of warm >gorilla tape
good stuff >cookpan, portable cup, folding utensils
might be adequate >first aid
probably not adequate for anything past booboos, take stop the bleed and cpr classes >hand warmers
if you have to use these you are in deeper shit that you know >life straw
get a sawyer >purification tabs
they work, but taste bad >storm matches, zippo fluid
good >walmart whet stone
adequate >fishing stuff
adequate if you know how to fish >fire striker
learn to use it before you need it >flashlight bat
trash it, use a regular flashlight >carabiners
adequate for clipping things, not load bearing >S&W multitool, generic knife
adequate >gun
adequate, probably >batteries
good >gasmasks
homie wtf are you thinking >generic backpack
it will probably work, don't expect it to work well, for long, or be water repellant
ive spent a lot of time and money buying useless shit after getting into prepping 5 years ago. go over these 2 websites and make the best decision on what you need, then go camping by yourself for a few days. make adjustments from there. the first website explains in detail why certain items are better than others. 99% of the survival/prepping websites are just paid shills who get commission on people clicking their amazon link. just remember everyone here is a larper and never goes outside per PrepHole
https://theprepared.com
https://survivalskills.guide/
a nice youtube page to look at is Survival Russia. hes this Danish guy who lives on a homestead in russia. goes camping on his property and surrounding area. should give you a few ideas.
there's currently an active thread about b.o.b in PrepHole
Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
I pulled mine out of the back of my trunk last week and brought it inside because the bartender was using a dull knife to cut lemons and needed to sharpen it. everyone thinks im crazy. its nice
This is 100% true and is something I've been philosophically battling in my mind. I'm confident in my ability but know my wife wouldn't be able to keep up. My wife is the best mother in the world and the tomboy women who tend to know how to survive wouldn't want anything to do with my insemination routines. If things do end up bugging out should I even consider trying to bring her along or should I disassociate?
If she is not able to keep up and opening you up to attacks then better to drop her and either give her a KYS brand pain killer and gun and keep on going. If she is still alive but ends up a frick slave well then you can assess the situation to see if your situation and numbers are good and if it is worth rescuing her.
This is 100% true and is something I've been philosophically battling in my mind. I'm confident in my ability but know my wife wouldn't be able to keep up. My wife is the best mother in the world and the tomboy women who tend to know how to survive wouldn't want anything to do with my insemination routines. If things do end up bugging out should I even consider trying to bring her along or should I disassociate?
Is that a full road atlas?
Are you planning to move to the other side of the country? > get rid of the pages that aren't contiguous to your state
ounces make pounds and pounds make . . .
No, I mean lmao as in its not gonna work well enough to be useful at all and youre much better off with a quality folding solar panel and a regular stove/folding stove arrangement.
I have one of these, anon. They are a cool party trick and do work, but are inconsistent. Let me explain: >They are tricky to start, and getting to full battery is sort of difficult (I only ever have gotten up to half with the light on). >You need to babysit them constantly as they go through fuel very quickly. >Because they go through fuel so fast, they are constantly flaming out and make a lot of smoke.
The advantage is they can charge electronics in any lighting condition, and are good alternative to a camp stove if you don't want to build fire pit or don't have meaningful fuel - it can work on just pinecones, twigs or grass. It's fine to keep in your car, but not in a real BOB - it's just too bulky and heavy.
>Shelter
tent/bivy + waterproof footprint/groundsheet or tarp (silnylon),
>Sleep
Z Lite SOL sleeping pad
sleeping bag - synthetic (so it dries out easily) with a liner. Yes, get a liner.
>Pack
as light as your budget allows and as large as you can comfortable carry, you can use the sleep pad as an ersatz internal frame. >Clothing
antimicrobial undergarments & socks.
insulating thermal mid- and outer-layers (thermal long johns, shirts, & packable down vest/coats)
waterproof rain shell (FROGG TOGGS are good on a budget)
insulated winter coat (packable is always nice)
glove liners, abrasion resistant work gloves, and thicker, insulated gloves for when they’re sitting around outside in the cold
heavy balaclava for sitting around in the cold, light skiing facemask or hat for when you’re moving around and staying warm
Eye pro/sunglasses
Boots - comfortable and waterproof
>Mess kit
cat can stove (takes most liquid fuels, unbreakable)
lighter
800ml or larger cookpot/cup
spork
aluminum foil folded into squares (endlessly useful, can be folded into a windscreen, or cook food on top of / in a fire)
bandana (to handle hot cookpot)
>Hydration
aqua mira tablets
Bleach solution (cleans gear, treats water)
water bottle/bladder (I really like the Platy 2.0L Collapsible Water Bottle, they fold down flat)
water filter and case (keep this in a pocket in an inner layer to prevent it from freezing if you’re outdoors)
>First Aid
tourniquets to SAM splints, and plenty of extra meds (especially antibiotics, acetaminophen/tylenol, loperamide / Immodium, diphenhydramine / benadryl)
gauze pads
medical tape
duct tape
antiseptic wipes
>Misc
paracord & carabiners
multitool with a can opener, pliers etc
dental / mouth mirror (allows you to see under cars/objects for traps/explosives)
a metric frickton of 12 gauge perimeter trip alarms & fishing line
Search and Rescue anon here. Don’t forget that survival in general is waiting to be rescued. We can go into SHTF TEOTWAWKI fantasy too if you want. Regardless, you get bored and that’s not good for the mind. Don’t forget to include some form of entertainment in your kit. A rubix cube, a deck of cards, some dice, or a good novel will do wonders for your psyche.
I also carry kids cartoon bandaids and little peppermints. In SAR this is because we sometimes get called to rescue children and this can do a lot to calm them down and let them know you are friendly and there to help them. This is good to carry if you have kids or know you might run into them. Depending on their age, even if they aren’t physically hurt a band aid with a recognizable cartoon face on it may be all they need to perk up and get moving. I carry Paw Patrol band aids because that’s what my niece and nephew like but SpongeBob and Mickey Mouse do the trick too.
looks like a nice setup i would add some water on top of your purification shit. like physical bottle of water. maybe a small fishing kit and some spare clothes like socks and underwear.
>Tell me what I'm missing
Good food. Tent. Warm and water resistant clothing. Good gloves, those suck and will get wet. Compass. High protein sugary/salty snacks. Multiple bic lighters. Cooking pot. Water filter. Water bladder.
My suggestions: >Get rid of shovel, you don't need it >Get rid of saw, you don't need it >Hatchet can do the job of the saw and shovel >Get Pig or mechanix gloves >Get rid of tape, replace with toilet paper >Get rid of shitty tent, get a real 3 season tent >Get rid of fishing lines, unless you live by the ocean >Get rid of the knife, you have a hatchet and a gun. >Get rid of the gas mask. >Get rid of the pan and replace for a small seal able pot that doubles as storage space. Pots can also be used to heat up water and cool liquids, while a PAN CANNOT >Get rid of Cantine, replace with a Grayl Water Filter. Holds liquids & filters them. >Get rid of zippo fuel, bic lighters will do the same AND can be used to start fires with the sparks it makes after they run out >Get a Sawyer mini to filter liquids into your water bladder
In my next post, I will discuss keeping warm in winter.
Your first thought to survive cold weather might be to pack on the layers. That's what these two did. They didn't survive. They got covered in snow, the snow melted from their body heat, the cold weather froze that water and the two turned to popsicles. To survive the winter you will need: >Heat insolation >Hydrophobic materials >Elemental protection
To conserve body heat, you do need layers, BUT those same layers will hold water when wet. That's why water proof and water phobic materials is key. Keeping dry will save your life. Your body heat is also lost when you are connected to cold elements; snow, ground and air. Snow will fall on you, when you sleep the ground will drain your body heat, the cold air will freeze your nostrils. You need proper protection from these hazards and the easiest way is to have a 3 season tent. With that tent, you will need a sleeping bag to keep you warm and base bottom layer (tarp, foam mattress, air mattress, leaves, branches, hay etc) to rest on which will insolate your body heat.
Clothes, a .22, cook pot, spoon, binoculars, ammo, buttstock for AK (folding is fine), thermal blanket, bedroll or sleeping bag, collapsible fishing rod and line. peanut butter.
Lose the machete and the gas mask, they're unnecessary weight and pick between the hatchet or the folding saw you don't need both.
>Also post what you got
Ammo
Get rid of the ozark trail stuff and find more reliable and durable equipment imo. Bring change of clothes. More water and an mre or two. Probably dont need bat, machete, saw and hatchet. I'd say keep the hatchet.
id keep the saw, you can break wood with you hands. anything bigger you can break yourself you use your saw.
Hatchet
why a hatchet and not a saw
Hatchet is much more useful
what can it do that you can do with your hands/saw? it takes more energy to cut something than a saw.
Hatchet used for shaving wood, splitting, chopping, etc. Can nipnoff small branches and limbs in nearly machete like fashion if its close to a trunk, can be used to break ground, can be used on bones and animals, can chop bigger limbs/trees, etc. Saw just for sawing.
i got ya. in my mind i assumed everyone had a fixed tang knife that could do a lot of that already. its been a long day.
full tang*
you cant break using leverage*
Personally I'd lean towards my k-bar and the hatchet.
Get rid of the hatchet or upgrade it to a full sized axe. Also get a good poncho, some hiking poles, rope and a small tarp. Is there water filtration and cooking supplies there? Medicine?
>Bring change of clothes.
Don't, but do pack a skivvy roll.
If you do a good roll you can put the sox inside fully. This prevents to much stretching.
Cash-money, water
Whole lot of heavy bullshit there already, though.
>what i got
a change of clothes, cash, important documents on a usb drive, water, water purification, and a multi tool that wont break the first time you use it.
this screams never been innawoods or even a bad storm in your life. i hope you're 18 and on a tight budget.
Lmao, I lived in a tent innawoods for two years through two Montana winters. I'm just not good at knowing what I will need for SHTF. I'm wanting this to be a long term bag.
Thanks for the advice! Will definitely make some changes. I do have maps and compass in the pic, as well as Tylenol. Didn't know that about lifestraws, I do have some iodine purification tablets as well. The club is also a flashlight so that's why it is included. It's aluminum so pretty light, just takes up a lot of space. Not pictured is a hammock and bedrolll.
how long is long term. i have a bug out bag and a teotwawki bag which has different equipment.
lifestraws are meme shit. depending on the quality of the water id also get Polar Pure. it kills viruses which are too small for any filter to remove.
Strain/Boil/Chlorine. Everything else is meme consumerism bullshit my man.
may not be in an area to make a fire to boil. the polar pure last a really long time. chorine is good tho
While I live in an area with lots of wood you may not always be able to use fire to cook if there is movement around and smoke will pin point your location. Sure trioxine fuel bars are good but again you will be down about 5-10mins boiling h2o pending wind and weather/temp. Also do all cooking 1-2hrs before sundown to avoid visual signiture
Who are you trying to hide from? Other boogaloo oper8ors out to kill anyone they see without question?
That and anyone looking to stop you from making it to your bugiut location. I like to plan for if Inneed to take 2-3x the time to get to my bugout place should roads be closed and patrolled
Literally when is there ever going to be a scenareo like this
>lived in a tent innawoods for two years through two Montana winters
>packs bunch of unused meme gear&weapons cause cant figure out what he will need for long term survival situation
X doubt
I also threw in an FAK, powerbank, headlight, a bit of food and my gasmask bc I had no better place to put it
If this is your first big out bag, you did better than most folks on their first.
You can ditch the hatchet or hand saw, the fishing supplies, club, and that shovel like most collapseable typed likely wont last long under real use. Missing?
A proper .1 micron water filter. Lifestraw lets giardia through. Try sawyer or katydyn.
Lighters. Fast and effective.
Nightvision. Even a carson mini aura nv-200 or nightfox is better than nothing but read up on it first.
Flashlight.
Socks and underwear. Boots. Clothes for travelling.
Map and lensatic compass. Maybe a diving compass too.
Mountain house food.
Swqp the pan for an aluminum cup or small pot for boiling water and cooking. A spoon or fork.
Hygiene stuff. Unscented baby wipes. Hand sanitizer. Bar of soap. Toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, razors, and shaving gel.
Tylenol.
Cash.
Baggie with essential document copies.
Start from scratch with what normal people would actually consider camping with, and what you'd actually be willing to camp for a night with even if just at a campground, rather than fricking around with survivor man shit. Then add cash and a sealed bag large enough for any important documents. A lot of that shit you have is dead weight and space, or massively weight/space inefficient. With what you have there, I guarantee you'd be willing to sell yourself into sexual slavery rather than continuing on after a couple days.
>Nightvision.
Dead weight.
I realize it's a lot of weight, but I don't need to travel far to get to a secure location. Just want a single bag that can get me started and keep me going long term.
>Lifestraw lets giardia through
How can Lifestraw a 2 micron filter let in a 10 micron giardia? It can't.
Life straw can filter giardia, it can't filter viruses
Not that bad, I'd toss the life straw and get a sawyer. The minis can screw on to smart water bottles, also be attached to camel packs too, also filters better than the mini.
I treat my hiking daypack as a mini bug-out bag, here's the contents. Temperate/hot climate.
Boonie hat
Gloves
Fleece jacket
Sunscreen
Lightweight balaclava
Glasses
Sunglasses
Water filter
Iodine
Caffeine
Aspirin
Antihistamines
Antidiarrheals
Antibiotics, both pills and ointment
Band-aids
Gauze
Israeli bandage
Ace bandage
Baby wipes
Hand sanitizer
Electrolyte tablets
Two steel water bottles
Duct tape wrapped around the bottles
Peanut trail mix
Beef jerky
Clif bars x3
Glock 17 and holster
Spare Glock magazine and mag holder
About 60 feet of paracord
Good carabiner
Two Bic lighters
Storm matches
Spare batteries
Leatherman
Flashlight
Rain poncho
Mylar blanket
Microfiber towel
Ear plugs
$100 in cash
Notable, conscious omissions: fixed blade knife, hatchet, solar power bank, phone charging cable, metal cup and spork, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, bivvy sack, more paracord, change of clothes, water key, compass with magnetic declination adjustment, map, camelbak, toothbrush, toothpaste, MREs/Mountain House meals, signaling mirror, radio, binoculars, thermal underwear and shirt, beanie, boots.
Those things I keep in a banker box in my trunk, but I don't keep them in my bag for weight reasons. When winter rolls around I pack more of the cold weather shit.
What are prepping for?
How far away is your BOL?
To my mind the most likely reasons someone might actually end up using a bugout bag is flooding, wildfires, housefires or some other localised disaster that forces them out of their home. You should be prepared for something like that, not just the collapse of society/innawoods meme.
With that in mind I'd suggest
>As much cash as you can risk losing if someone breaks into your home while you're at work and steals your BOB - at the very least you'd want enough to pay for gas and a hotel room when everyone's price gouging.
>Phone powerbank
>Backups of important documents
>Change of clothes
Other than that
>You probably don't need an e-tool, hatchet, saw and a machete. The club would also be unnecessary but it gets a pass as a flashlight.
>What's up with the pile of carabiners?
>I'd probably carry more food. Throw some mountainhouse meals or trail mix in there
>Is that flask your only water container? You need a lot more capacity than that even if you're somewhere with plentiful natural water sources I'd at least want a camelbak or a few good-sized bottles.
>Headlamp is infinitely more useful than a flashlight. I've got both in my BOB though, the flashlight is some superbright one from Fenix.
This man has a good setup. My BOB is fairly similar although it includes most of his conscious omissions and more cold weather gear.
>Duct tape wrapped around the bottles
why
Saves space I guess. Personally I think you can get away with a whole roll as long as you pack it smartly
Just wrap duct tape around some old plastic cards (credit cards, driver's licenses, etc). Pretty easy to slip in and out of pockets.
this is what i do. cut a pen in half and rolled a coat hanger around. I hate how ducktape leaves residue on shit so I dont wrap it around anything like lighters
forgot to add the reason i dont like the etool is because the more moving parts there are, more likely it will fail*
If you hate duct tape's residue, you could just rock gaffer tape in the future.
Shits unnecessarily expensive though and tbh it still leaves residue in the right conditions
Tape Card is MASTER RACE
>Take old credit card with Obama's info on it
>Wrap tape around it
>You decide the feetage in lengths
PROFIT??
if you also carry hand sanitizer you can use that to remove the residue
this guy's got like 95% of it down pat.
a handful of my own idiosyncrasies:
I think bandaids are generally useless. When needed I just use gauze and duct tape cut to size with some holes poked in it.
I keep several additional lighters. Some are Bic and some are the windproof torch kind. All of them are high-visibility orange and have duct tape wrapped around them; duct tape is flammable and can be used in place of tinder if absolutely necessary (make a lengthwise loop for best results).
I keep a pair of face-fitting safety goggles inside an extra pair of wool socks. If you're in a place with a lot of smoke, sand, dust, etc., you'll be glad you have them.
Two large cotton bandanas. Lot of uses for these; one especially worth mentioning is that using it as a prefilter for water that you need to put through your Sawyer or whatever will keep your filter cleaner (it's a bigger deal than it sounds). I keep needle and thread too; you can patch up clothes/bags with material from the bandanas if needed, and it takes up almost no space or weight.
Aspercreme or similar. If you find yourself having to cover much longer distances than you are used to, it's a lifesaver.
Sharpies, pen and pencil, superglue. Superglue plus duct tape is a very solid medium-term fix for holes in shoes. Superglue can also be used for small cuts, and can make your bandaids (or duct tape bandaids) stick like they need to in wet conditions.
I keep a small amount of tarred bankline in addition to paracord for those instances where I don't want something to stretch or give. always handy to have more cordage.
Best post itt
What loadout and lightest setup for a 1-2 week on foot or bicycle stealth movement ? So two situations to make it to your safe bugout zone.
How high is your budget, expected distance, and tolerance for constant discomfort and pain.
>Lots of walmart china quality equipment
>All unused
My worry isn't just what you own but how reliably you can use it to take care of yourself. I get prepping on a budget but even if you were experienced in camping and basic surival (assuming you aren't because unused gear) it may not hold up.
>Ditch the metal flask, replace with 1L single layered stainless bottle
>Lose the cough syrup
>Replace the memestraw with a sawyer mini
>If that nightstick looking thing is a flashlight replace it with a headlamp. Preferably one that defaults to (or at least has) a red light option
>Unless you're staying in the woods, lose the chink hatchet and stick with the knife & saw. Much easier and doable for Spring/Summer/Fall
>Lose the shovel
>Get extra ammo
>Condense the gorilla tape down. Wrap ~15' around a small dowel or bic lighter.
>Replace the atlas with regional topo maps or at least a smaller one for your state. You don't need to know the roads 2000 miles away.
>If you don't have one, compass with a notepad and mechanical pencil
Post contents of IFAK too.
to many tools missing a distillation pot. use it for cooking and distillation. too many tools. take three hand tools.
overall not too bad, i have to say it is better than most ive seen, it looks like you have actually poot a little thought into it
ditch the E-Tool, yeah you might have to dig something for whatever reason but E tools are shit at everything they do, only way to actually use it is to make it into the L shape and hack at the ground, imo its dead weight but im not sure what your plan is so you do you
also you might want to throw in some foot lotion/cream because if you are walking for days to weeks at a time keeping your feet in good condition is vitally important
also take care of your stomach, if you start drinking water from random places, even if its filtered out, you will still sometimes have a upset stomach and a bad case of the shits simply because you arent used to the water. People get this all the time, look up travelers diarrhea. Throw some tums or some kaopectate or something in you bag, they dont weigh much and they will last you long enough to get used to the new area without you laying around all day wasting time because you feel too shitty to do anything
also dont bring any sort of smelly deotorant or perfumes or anything scented, you may not notice it now because almost eveybody wears the stuff and theres alot of stuff going on in the modern world that has a smell, but if you have been innawoods a while you will smell people nearby
ditch any sort of boxy packaging, tear apart any sort of MREs you have and just keep the good stuff inside, ditch the napkins and other bs that takes up space
make a blowout kit for heavier wounds, in SHTF if you take a center mass shot you are basically doomed, but for "less severe" heavy wounds you should put together a good kit for massive bleeding and a basic surgical kit with stitches and needles etc
Make sure you know how to use the shit too, dont just have it and let it sit. its important to have atleast some of the current kit you have, take out what you dont need in there.
small boo boos can become big problems if not taken care of properly
don't buy a pre made trauma kit, research what will be needed and will be practical to have and buy it individually
most of the commercially available kits come with shitty bags and are more expensive because they are pre made.
consider buying body armor, you wont want to wear it most of the time unless you are more or less static at a defensive position, you dont want to lug it around unless you know you might get shot, its VERY good to have when practical however its not always
I would say get it and if you don't have the opportunity to wear it, stash it and come back for it later.
I've said it once I'll say it a thousand times. My friend get you a wild edible's field guide for North America. Make sure it is detailed, and includes pictures for every plant. Don't be a fool. Even if you have average knowledge on the subject you can always make a mistake. Always better to erase all doubt and know for certain the plant you are about to eat. It will take you far. Mine is very thin, not much larger than one of those old goosebumps paperbacks. I've told and forced/gifted many to my friends for the same reason. Knowing just how much food is freely available in your area can save your life. When the shit hits, and every frick tard with a gun devastates the animal population in their attempt to "hunt" being able to eat and store a bounty from spring well into late fall can be most beneficial. Also, a small dry bag for said book, as well as other things that can't get wet such as matches and electronics. Another thing to consider that I do is to ditch the batteries and battery powered headlamp and get a rechargeable one as well as a solar panel power bank + another small power bank to draw your power from the solar one. It aides in charging time as well as extending the lifetime of your solar panel power bank. But it allows you to charge on the go through the day while ditch heavy batteries. Plus after about 2-3 years in a non climate controlled area with any sort of humidity most batteries will decay. Just food for thought brother.
crank radio
rite in the rain notebook/pen
solar charger/power bank/charger cords
portable wood stove (i have the OneTigris)
extra pair of socks...your feet will thank you.
Look up fireboxstoves dot com for quick and solid true folding stoves for quick setups and if you need to move quickly you could dump coals in a hole and carry the stove with the well designed slots for carry sticks which double for meat skewers.
Look into bivy bags and treating your clothes with permithrin.
For me it's
>3-ish season
>clif bars, beef jerky sticks and trail mix, caffiene pills and gatorade powder with extra salts mixed in
>sawyer mini, several 1L water bags(soft bottles) 3 1L smartwaters (bottles are handy size and durable), iodine and chlorine tabs
>mylar coated bivy, homemade "woobie" ul-type quilt with heavier thinsulate insulation, trashbag groundsheet, 6x10 silpoly tarp with ridgeline, stakes, cord, UL 1/4" close cell foam torso pad, and a bugnet for my face
>3 pairs of socks, one pair underwear, silkweight top and bottom, fleece cap, nitrile coated outer gloves and 2pr gi wool glove liners, lightweight rain jacket
>broken in trail runners strapped to the bag
>IFAK and trauma kit
>acebeam headlamp, spare cr123s
>small soap bar, toothbrush/paste/floss, nailclippers, travel antiperspirant, washcloth and chamois travel towel, 4 "days" of TP in ziplock snack bags, antofungal cream
>hillpeople chest bag with G19, flashlight, 4 mags, basic compass, map, backup usb drive in a metal pill container, knife, some cash
>maps, compass, notebook, phone charger/cord/battery bank/hesdphones, another backup usb drive in metal pill container, cash, sleeve for id and documents
>1.4mm green cordage, gear repair tape, needles/brsided fishing line/thimble
Winter bag gets heavier clothes, boots and military outer bivy and grey sleeping bag
JFC who taught you to pack, you effeminate pussy. Its pretty obvious you have close to no experience rucking.
NGMI
Why the frick do you need a hatchet and a fricking saw, you dumbass?
>whole roll of gorilla tape
> a machete
>a saw
>a hatchet
>a fricking bat?
>two packs of batteries for....?
>handwarmers lol your a pussy
>a slingless AK, stockless Black person draco
>a bottle of robotussin
> two entire spools of fishing line
>a fricking gas mask lmfao
This is is fricking embarrassing OP. Instead of LARPING like a homosexual go get some experience actually rucking in the woods. Theres probably like 20 lbs in useless gear and you haven't even packed clothing or real rations let alone water. Theres no sleeping bag, that ozark shit will fail you. youre going to die loser
Don't need a gas mask. Dust mask might be helpful.
Frick matches, put a couple lighters in there.
Something to charge your phone.
Some insect repellant and sunscreen depending on AO.
Handgun
Good way to think of survival are the following in order of priority: Shelter, Water, Fire, and Food.
Honest question, why do some of you guys dislike E tools? I've never used one but conceptually they seem like a good thing to have. I don't know what I don't know so I want to know your opinions.
personally its dead weight since its a jack of all trades but master of none and if you are using it to dig youll only be able to dig 1 to 3 meters deep comfortably. you can use em to chop wood/roots but they dull easily also if its not taken care of can break
>I’ve never used one
Lmao because they fricking suck
i have a titanium shovel in my teotwawki bag but its not needed in a b.o.b.
I hate them because I used them to dig fox holes. I think it's better than not having a shovel I still don't like them though. They're a b***h to use. Also if you're not a manlet if you're even just normal sized your hunched over trying to use it for hours on end depending on how big of a hole you need so the compact part that's the selling point really fricking sucks to use. They suck at scooping up dirt/clay at some point you're probably just going to want to use your hands and just knocking dirt loose with it. I mean I'd rather have one than not just because realistically at some point I'm going to have to take a shit, or I'd want a dakota fire hole, or digging a shallow thing to divert water if it rains hard enough especially if I'm in a tent or sleeping on the ground. Most people are bugging out to a specific location otherwise it'd just be a general camping bag. Really depends on if you plan on camping at all with it. I use to carry an e-tool around in my car for winter since I didn't have space for a proper shovel and I was 99% certain I wouldn't ever need to use it.
Just going to kill my local prepper and take all their shit, just like how your neighbor will do to you.
Anon that is a real AK right? Please tell me this isn't your larping kit. The muzzle being hidden in the photo has me worried.
NO REPLIES! DOES NO ONE THINK THAT A RIFLE WITH NO EXTRA MAGS, AMMO, OR STOCK IS QUESTIONABLE? ARE YOU ALL BLIND!?!
>I just spent $150 at Walmart the post
Not sure where to unpack all of this but here we go. I don't have any idea what the environment is where you are, but I hope it is warm and dry.
>road atlas
adequate
>flasks
dead weight
>machete
adequate, probably will bend or break soon
>shovel
that model will probably break soon
>emergency ration bars
you can do better with something that tastes better
>folding saw
I have one like it, they kinda suck but sorta work
>generic hatchet
it'll probably work
>compass, I think
might be reliable for cardinals, can't see anything to identify it better
>signal mirror
good for personal hygiene
>paracord
its paracord
>reflective tents
use a tarp those won't offer you any warm unless you burrito in them and they are going to tear easily
>space blanket
don't rely on that as your only source of warm
>gorilla tape
good stuff
>cookpan, portable cup, folding utensils
might be adequate
>first aid
probably not adequate for anything past booboos, take stop the bleed and cpr classes
>hand warmers
if you have to use these you are in deeper shit that you know
>life straw
get a sawyer
>purification tabs
they work, but taste bad
>storm matches, zippo fluid
good
>walmart whet stone
adequate
>fishing stuff
adequate if you know how to fish
>fire striker
learn to use it before you need it
>flashlight bat
trash it, use a regular flashlight
>carabiners
adequate for clipping things, not load bearing
>S&W multitool, generic knife
adequate
>gun
adequate, probably
>batteries
good
>gasmasks
homie wtf are you thinking
>generic backpack
it will probably work, don't expect it to work well, for long, or be water repellant
ive spent a lot of time and money buying useless shit after getting into prepping 5 years ago. go over these 2 websites and make the best decision on what you need, then go camping by yourself for a few days. make adjustments from there. the first website explains in detail why certain items are better than others. 99% of the survival/prepping websites are just paid shills who get commission on people clicking their amazon link. just remember everyone here is a larper and never goes outside per PrepHole
https://theprepared.com
https://survivalskills.guide/
a nice youtube page to look at is Survival Russia. hes this Danish guy who lives on a homestead in russia. goes camping on his property and surrounding area. should give you a few ideas.
there's currently an active thread about b.o.b in PrepHole
Two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
Plus a speedo and a shotgun.
I pulled mine out of the back of my trunk last week and brought it inside because the bartender was using a dull knife to cut lemons and needed to sharpen it. everyone thinks im crazy. its nice
Gezzs that pic is 90% me
The only thing I need is my dick
The problem with bug out bags is making one for the woman in your life.
This is 100% true and is something I've been philosophically battling in my mind. I'm confident in my ability but know my wife wouldn't be able to keep up. My wife is the best mother in the world and the tomboy women who tend to know how to survive wouldn't want anything to do with my insemination routines. If things do end up bugging out should I even consider trying to bring her along or should I disassociate?
If she is not able to keep up and opening you up to attacks then better to drop her and either give her a KYS brand pain killer and gun and keep on going. If she is still alive but ends up a frick slave well then you can assess the situation to see if your situation and numbers are good and if it is worth rescuing her.
Yes, I'm afraid this will soon be the reality. If only we won in the 40's. We do this so our sons and daughters won't have to.
sometimes, being foreveralone has upsides
Is that a full road atlas?
Are you planning to move to the other side of the country?
> get rid of the pages that aren't contiguous to your state
ounces make pounds and pounds make . . .
https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-complete-cook-kit
This thing has been on my watchlist since it came out. If it works, it's legendary tech.
Lmao
I should mention that it was on my wishlist for camping and off-grid living, not BOB.
No, I mean lmao as in its not gonna work well enough to be useful at all and youre much better off with a quality folding solar panel and a regular stove/folding stove arrangement.
well if it were to work well it collapses pretty tight.
Better off getting something that does work rather that might.
There's some products like that around and they all produce diddly squat for power, so you're losing weight/money on a feature that """""""" works""""""""" in Laboratory™ Testing®©.
I have one of these, anon. They are a cool party trick and do work, but are inconsistent. Let me explain:
>They are tricky to start, and getting to full battery is sort of difficult (I only ever have gotten up to half with the light on).
>You need to babysit them constantly as they go through fuel very quickly.
>Because they go through fuel so fast, they are constantly flaming out and make a lot of smoke.
The advantage is they can charge electronics in any lighting condition, and are good alternative to a camp stove if you don't want to build fire pit or don't have meaningful fuel - it can work on just pinecones, twigs or grass. It's fine to keep in your car, but not in a real BOB - it's just too bulky and heavy.
You need a waifu or concubine. And plenty beautiful 7.62x39 spam cans for the hoe(s) to carry
>Shelter
tent/bivy + waterproof footprint/groundsheet or tarp (silnylon),
>Sleep
Z Lite SOL sleeping pad
sleeping bag - synthetic (so it dries out easily) with a liner. Yes, get a liner.
>Pack
as light as your budget allows and as large as you can comfortable carry, you can use the sleep pad as an ersatz internal frame.
>Clothing
antimicrobial undergarments & socks.
insulating thermal mid- and outer-layers (thermal long johns, shirts, & packable down vest/coats)
waterproof rain shell (FROGG TOGGS are good on a budget)
insulated winter coat (packable is always nice)
glove liners, abrasion resistant work gloves, and thicker, insulated gloves for when they’re sitting around outside in the cold
heavy balaclava for sitting around in the cold, light skiing facemask or hat for when you’re moving around and staying warm
Eye pro/sunglasses
Boots - comfortable and waterproof
>Mess kit
cat can stove (takes most liquid fuels, unbreakable)
lighter
800ml or larger cookpot/cup
spork
aluminum foil folded into squares (endlessly useful, can be folded into a windscreen, or cook food on top of / in a fire)
bandana (to handle hot cookpot)
>Hydration
aqua mira tablets
Bleach solution (cleans gear, treats water)
water bottle/bladder (I really like the Platy 2.0L Collapsible Water Bottle, they fold down flat)
water filter and case (keep this in a pocket in an inner layer to prevent it from freezing if you’re outdoors)
>Toiletries
toothbrush & toothpaste
floss
safety pins
ziplock & stuffsacks
latex gloves
lip balm
body wipes
>First Aid
tourniquets to SAM splints, and plenty of extra meds (especially antibiotics, acetaminophen/tylenol, loperamide / Immodium, diphenhydramine / benadryl)
gauze pads
medical tape
duct tape
antiseptic wipes
>Misc
paracord & carabiners
multitool with a can opener, pliers etc
dental / mouth mirror (allows you to see under cars/objects for traps/explosives)
a metric frickton of 12 gauge perimeter trip alarms & fishing line
Search and Rescue anon here. Don’t forget that survival in general is waiting to be rescued. We can go into SHTF TEOTWAWKI fantasy too if you want. Regardless, you get bored and that’s not good for the mind. Don’t forget to include some form of entertainment in your kit. A rubix cube, a deck of cards, some dice, or a good novel will do wonders for your psyche.
I also carry kids cartoon bandaids and little peppermints. In SAR this is because we sometimes get called to rescue children and this can do a lot to calm them down and let them know you are friendly and there to help them. This is good to carry if you have kids or know you might run into them. Depending on their age, even if they aren’t physically hurt a band aid with a recognizable cartoon face on it may be all they need to perk up and get moving. I carry Paw Patrol band aids because that’s what my niece and nephew like but SpongeBob and Mickey Mouse do the trick too.
You posted this verbatim in the other thread
Yeah
looks like a nice setup i would add some water on top of your purification shit. like physical bottle of water. maybe a small fishing kit and some spare clothes like socks and underwear.
>Tell me what I'm missing
Good food. Tent. Warm and water resistant clothing. Good gloves, those suck and will get wet. Compass. High protein sugary/salty snacks. Multiple bic lighters. Cooking pot. Water filter. Water bladder.
My suggestions:
>Get rid of shovel, you don't need it
>Get rid of saw, you don't need it
>Hatchet can do the job of the saw and shovel
>Get Pig or mechanix gloves
>Get rid of tape, replace with toilet paper
>Get rid of shitty tent, get a real 3 season tent
>Get rid of fishing lines, unless you live by the ocean
>Get rid of the knife, you have a hatchet and a gun.
>Get rid of the gas mask.
>Get rid of the pan and replace for a small seal able pot that doubles as storage space. Pots can also be used to heat up water and cool liquids, while a PAN CANNOT
>Get rid of Cantine, replace with a Grayl Water Filter. Holds liquids & filters them.
>Get rid of zippo fuel, bic lighters will do the same AND can be used to start fires with the sparks it makes after they run out
>Get a Sawyer mini to filter liquids into your water bladder
In my next post, I will discuss keeping warm in winter.
Your first thought to survive cold weather might be to pack on the layers. That's what these two did. They didn't survive. They got covered in snow, the snow melted from their body heat, the cold weather froze that water and the two turned to popsicles. To survive the winter you will need:
>Heat insolation
>Hydrophobic materials
>Elemental protection
To conserve body heat, you do need layers, BUT those same layers will hold water when wet. That's why water proof and water phobic materials is key. Keeping dry will save your life. Your body heat is also lost when you are connected to cold elements; snow, ground and air. Snow will fall on you, when you sleep the ground will drain your body heat, the cold air will freeze your nostrils. You need proper protection from these hazards and the easiest way is to have a 3 season tent. With that tent, you will need a sleeping bag to keep you warm and base bottom layer (tarp, foam mattress, air mattress, leaves, branches, hay etc) to rest on which will insolate your body heat.
water, water purification tablets, a water filter, more water, and a pair of socks
don't listen to shills, ozark trail will keep you alive long enough to get somewhere safe
Ozark protects you as much as an umbrella would. Take the umbrella instead, doubles as a bludgeon when people come up to you and suggest dumb things.
>Tell me what I'm missing.
Clothes, a .22, cook pot, spoon, binoculars, ammo, buttstock for AK (folding is fine), thermal blanket, bedroll or sleeping bag, collapsible fishing rod and line. peanut butter.
Lose the machete and the gas mask, they're unnecessary weight and pick between the hatchet or the folding saw you don't need both.
I had to work this ouy too but ya Don t need an axe, e tool, and machett.
you need a sling