It's certainly not a mid cold war one either. It being produced a year after ww2 ended is not the technological feat you think it is. It is most definitely "ww2 era" and no amount of using it after it ended will make it not. Following that logic you may as well it a modern tank because it's used in a modern war.
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Yes, but I would only consider tanks produced/used during WW2 to be WW2 tanks
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Yes, but I would only consider tanks produced/used during WW2 to be WW2 tanks
Yeah on that there's a few small but notable differences between early and post WW2 tanks. The widespread use of sub-caliber penetrators for example.
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>production started 1 year after WWII ended >no guys its actually closer to 1968
What's even funnier is that Russia didn't job to the same goatfrickers, they jobbed to the first wave of goatfrickers who got wiped out by the taliban goatfrickers who actually took over afghanistan and eventually fought off the US (after 2 decades)
And it wasn't the current post-collapse Russia fighting, it was the mighty red army of the USSR superpower.
>call up 400,000 men in a mobilization >ukraine does not kill all of them >this means your army is still technically bigger
I can tell your skin tone is dark, OP
The article you posted specifically says word for word >In March, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Russian troops are “getting slaughtered” in their fight for Bakhmut.
>conscript 300k additional mobiks >in addition to your yearly scheduled conscriptions >totals to half a million new soldats for Puccia >l-look there are more of them
Lmaaaaoooooo,
I DEMAND YOU ATTACK NATO TERRITORIES NOW YOU MISERABLE COWARDS! THIS FEEBLE SKIRMISH WITH YOUR FORMER THRALLS IS NOT ENOUGH! ATTACK THE WEST! UNLEASH YOUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS SO SKULLS MAY BE APLENTY!
>post article >article says the opposite of what your bait was meant to imply >well akshually the article is wrong
Then why post the headline to begin with?
i didnt post any articles but very emotional words like "slaughtered" may feel like a compelling argument and have a strong effect on feminine minds like yours whereas men appreciate quantities
the entire problem with the invasion in the first place was the Russian military was nowhere near the size needed to actually take over the country once the rush on Kiev failed, no shit the Russians are having to funnel more forces in
Russia is the modern analogue to the Ottoman Empire, they still adapt and learn and try to compensate for problems even if the process has been a fricking shitshow
You admitted that Russia is taking massive losses, and attempt to offset this by bragging about the death of unarmed civilians. How is killing unarmed civilians an achievement? You have to be a false flag at this point.
Russian army at the start of the war - at peacetime size.
Russian army right now - reserves called up, penal battalions, forced conscription, using airfield crews and ship crews as infantry.
If they were smaller now than they were at the start of the war, that would imply casualties in the vicinity of 2,000,000.
How is it "Zelensky loses" why are you using the Russian narrative that Zelensky is forcing Ukraine to fight and without Zelensky Ukraine would surrender and embrace Russia?
What happens when Russian supporters like yourself are hunted down, will we finally be rid of your subhuman behavior?
The Russian military is taking obscene losses against the Ukrainians. Russia is losing to a backwater country armed with Soviet equipment and NATO's spare change, and you cope with this by bringing up civilian loses.
Vatniks have been trying to present this amendment as some big proof of tyrant Zelensky having to punish his people to distract from what's going on in Russia.
The missing context is that it has been in parliamentary limbo for a while and was amended to a milder form from the initially rejected proposal.
Meanwhile how laws are ratified in Russia: >rewrite it and add amendments the previous day >if anyone disagrees, remind them of "what happened in 1937" >expanded mass mobilization and retiring the rule of law in one day, babeh
Funny thing about blocking detachments and prison betallions is even the soviets stopped using them. So a nation known for inefficiency even found them to not work well.
>save for vatnik ones that are obligated to at gun point
Be fair - there are plenty of useful idiots in western media. Most of them don't even have war correspondents so they just repost unverified claims by Indian and Russian sources.
Damn, that’s a pretty high number of civilian casualties, how tragic…
we should lobby NATO to deploy ground forces to safeguard eastern Ukraine, don’t you think
Actually they're not taking volunteers. Only people with real combat experience as infantry or direct combat support are getting taken now.Ukraine's flush for manpower.
Russia on the other hand will take any warm body that can stagger through customs.
>Ukranians understandably don't want to die for the gay israelite regime the U.S. installed.
Yeah, I don't think anyone wants to die for Zelensky or even democracy.
Good thing Russian scum gave them a better reason to fight by invading.
>all sources >source:my ass
Yea, "all sources", dumb homosexual. If they didn't want to fight, then why russia is still struggling to conventionally beat them? An un motivated army on the defensive would have collapsed and you're spreading the same cope that the russians thought before invading Ukraine. Which was"ukrainians are not willing to fight"
goddamit this thread is pathetic, you morons really were giving (you)s to the autistic homosexual you should all have a nice day and go leave. Don't fall to the bait next time
Aren't the vatBlack folk the ones constantly screeching that Ukraine needs to outnumber them hundreds to one in places like bakhmut? There was that cope post making the rounds a few months ago that showed lots of separate units to Russia's few separate units, in NATO symbology
>*russian cumslurping and russian cum belly sloshing intensifies*
Disgusting. but you can't expect too much from morons supporting totalitarian strongmen dictators sending aids invaders into neighboring countries.
Disastrous for who? Commies? Not for Russia's victims in the West. This is payback for the entire Left (Russia is why it exists) including all anti-weapons laws. You cannot love weapons and serve Russia, vatBlack person.
You're brown and stupid and you will lose like every time before. My precious /k/ will thrive on the corpses of its enemies.
>you must take all of your recruited troops, put them through a 2 week basic course then throw them into Bakhmut!
You're now aware that quite a few of the US divisions involved in the Normandy landings were formed in the US, spent multiple actual years training for everything from mountain invasions to amphibious landings, before seeing their first contact as a division in France. Part of the reason why the "Patton is the general leading the invasion!" meme worked so well is because the Germans at that point honestly had no fricking idea how many divisions had been raised, where they were or what they were doing, so a notional "invasion army" lead by a notoriously aggressive armored general with completely nonexistent divisions was taken seriously by German intelligence.
Like really holy frick I know you're going to say I'm coping but the Ukrainian counteroffensive force could be twice the size you think it is and the Russians probably wouldn't know until the unknown half slammed through their lines and ended up in Rostov.
>invade Ukraine "to stop Donbas genocide" >kill 40k civilians in the Donbas >XAXAXA STUPID HOHOLS WE KILLED MORE THAN YOU IF YOU COUNT CIVILIANS
Fricking moron.
Yeah, they were only attempting the largest amphibious invasion in history against a country that had spend the previous 4 years destroying Europe. No biggie. I'm sure a bunch of moronic conscripts from Iowa would have done just fine.
Honestly with how blatantly in the closet most of these vatniks are I think you could make him do it without the money with a bit of gentle encouragement and soft cuddling.
I like how even the shills are admitting that Russia has lost at least as many KIA in one year than the US did in 10 years of Vietnam (50 years ago). The consequences have surpassed simple embarrassment, this is national suicide.
I'm of the opinion that the west's goal is to drag this out as long as possible to damage Russia as badly as possible, with an end result of Ukraine retaking all of its territory and Russia being hamstringed and even more irrelevant for the next 2 decades or more. Trickling in improved capabilities so the Russians still think they can win if they double down is a key part of ensuring they will bleed as much as possible.
>xaxaxa we're so good at war we'll send our youth to die until you eventually get tired xaxaxa
That's not what the Taliban or NVA did but please feel free to try it. I want to buy a Lada.
>sucks their leaked intel contradicts that
sucks that the """"""leaked intel"""""" is a shit-stirring psyop by either incompetent FSB/GRU glow-goons (or very snarky CIA/NSA glow-goons pretending to be incompetent FSB/GRU glow-goons)
...and you were dumb enough to fall for it.
If someone finds out who this OP actually is through internet wizardry somehow, it would be great so he understands that words on the internet can sometimes lead to real life consequences for the same
A window has been opened by the Russians in which we could quickly defeat them militarily. This happened because Putin didn’t understand how awful the armed forces were before launching this invasion. Probably all the corrupt officers and brass were hoping that there actually wouldn’t be a war.
But, that window won’t stay open forever. Now that Putin is hyper-focusing on the military and MIC issues, things for them will improve, not get worse. It seems unlikely that Ukraine by itself will be able to inflict a decisive loss on Russia, so that leaves it up to us. Everything converged to create this opportunity, but it looks like our leadership will let it slip by.
I dunno dude I doubt Russia can sustain this war for the next 25 years in order to 'improve' their military. They began the war in a pretty bad position, got extrodinarily worse over the last year. It's not going to get any better any time soon. Millions of able bodied people have fled the country, hundreds of thousands have died or been horribly maimed in the war. They're experiencing brain drain and they're about to face their worst workers shortage in a long time. Mind you this is all happening while the country will experience a pretty bad demographic crisis in the future as well. Even if Putin purges every single corrupt element in his government, that doesn't change the fact that they simply just don't have enough steam to keep the war going.
>things for them will improve, not get worse.
Unlikely, their financial situation is rapidly deteriorating after losing a substantial chunk of their oil and gas revenues, and access to most foreign credit markets. Oil prices are down across the board and the price cap mechanism worked surprisingly well. Ramping up production to come close to matching loss rates is a pipe dream for them. And there has been little to no sign of institutional reform within the ranks that I have seen - morale and discipline are worse than they were in the early days.
>when israelitetin dies
The Russians will discover Putin was a traitor and enemy of the people all along, just like every other Russian rule since 1900. >that shithole degenerates into civil war
The CIA used their witch magic to stage a color revolution in Moscow, and the new Russian strongman has no choice but to send all his political opponents to the gulags.
Pattern recognition isn't the Russians strong suit.
>The Russians will discover Putin was a traitor and enemy of the people all along, just like every other Russian rule since 1900.
This
Expect a new edition of Zhukov's memoirs for the occasion
And it would take the US was a day of air raids and then another day of ground operations. So as the second army in thr world Russia taking a the better part if year seems pretty fricking pathetic. What you don't seem to grasp and haven't since day 4 of the 3 day operation is it doesn't matter if Russia eventually wins it has shit itself on the world stage, and it's power is broken. Nothing can fix that but a time machine.
Ya China isn't going to pay half of what Germany paid for energy. And we have already seen the world back off of russian gear and rush even more towards western MIC
it won't win, it doesn't have the forces and equipment to push past the Dnipro so the best they can get is the current holdings. Ukraine gets admitted into NATO and russia is left with massive casualties, war debt, unrest, recession yada yada until the shithole collapses again and Ukraine can just walk in and take its territory back
>everyone here is le sheeple
Meanwhile you didn't even actually read the source of OP's pic because it literally says that Russians are getting completely slaughtered.
Russia taking heavy losses is expected, but still not good. It's also compounded by the fact that Russia seems unwilling to devote significant time/manpower/resources to conducting MEDEVAC.
I demand you russians to attack all neighbor NATO nations and launch your nuclear arsenals upon western cities so a true war may be unleash upon this blasted world rather than this pathetic skirmish!
You moscovite dogs are all effete cowards who haven't been capable to take down one of your miserable former oblasts, while Khorne cares not from whom it flows sending the weak hordes of your thrall satrapies to shed their blood to the guns of the West only shows you and that apeman you have as king are spineless mongrels!
ESCALATE THE WAR! ESCALATE THE WAR!
INVOKE THE FIFTH ARTICLE SO KHORNE MY FEAST THIS SEASON!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
[...]
Russia taking heavy losses is expected, but still not good. It's also compounded by the fact that Russia seems unwilling to devote significant time/manpower/resources to conducting MEDEVAC.
>this is to be expected when undertaking offensive operations against a target as heavily fortified as bakhmut, I'm honestly surprised they managed to push into the city center seeing as how Ukraine had months to build up fortifications there.
So if Russia is having so much trouble taking the Bakhmut Superfortress, how much devastation will they suffer when they launch themselves against Interdimensional Hyperfortress Kramatorsk? How do you expect Russia to win with that in mind?
>I'm neither a subhuman nor do I live in a 3rd world c**t, try again >posts tranime
Sorry to break it to you but youre clearly some third worlder groomed on discord
im sorry, the only cure is to have a nice day.
>this is to be expected when undertaking offensive operations against a target as heavily fortified as bakhmut,
Bakhmut was never intended to become a fortress and a last stand. It only became fortified because after weeks Russians couldn’t take anything of substance. So weeks became months and it became fortified. And there are dozens more to go after bakhmut. But 2 more weeks right? Then it’ll be over
What do you think all of those conscriptions were about?
POO
IN
LOO
Did you read the article before posting the headline for (you)s?
They likely google translated the op text m8. You really think they’re reading articles?
More men but substantially less modern equipment. What do you need for winning a 21st century war?
>Ukraine
>21st century war
lol, LAMO even
>every western power throwing high or top tier modern gear at UKR
>Russia's rolling out WW2 tanks
You've been coaxed into a snafu
>Russia's rolling out WW2 tanks
I think you're confusing "early-mid Cold War" with "WW2"
the design phase of the t54 started in 1944/5, with it starting production in 1946
call it what you want, but it's significantly closer to ww2 than "early-mid coldwar"
It's certainly not a WW2 tank, that's for sure
It's certainly not a mid cold war one either. It being produced a year after ww2 ended is not the technological feat you think it is. It is most definitely "ww2 era" and no amount of using it after it ended will make it not. Following that logic you may as well it a modern tank because it's used in a modern war.
Yes, but I would only consider tanks produced/used during WW2 to be WW2 tanks
Yeah on that there's a few small but notable differences between early and post WW2 tanks. The widespread use of sub-caliber penetrators for example.
>production started 1 year after WWII ended
>no guys its actually closer to 1968
>gets their asses kicked by an upgraded WW2 design
>What do you need for winning a 21st century war?
ask the taliban
What's even funnier is that Russia didn't job to the same goatfrickers, they jobbed to the first wave of goatfrickers who got wiped out by the taliban goatfrickers who actually took over afghanistan and eventually fought off the US (after 2 decades)
And it wasn't the current post-collapse Russia fighting, it was the mighty red army of the USSR superpower.
Goat herders didn’t crash planes into Russians buildings after giving them money and weapons.
You're confusing the Mujahedin with the Taliban and the Taliban with Al Qaeda.
ah yes, the Taliban.
noted expeditionary force.
multiple invasions under their belt of... uh...
>More men now after a mobilization than before said mobilization
>call up 400,000 men in a mobilization
>ukraine does not kill all of them
>this means your army is still technically bigger
I can tell your skin tone is dark, OP
SIR
Sir, do not redeem. You bloody b***h bastard!
Those are Pakistanis not Indians stupid.
The article you posted specifically says word for word
>In March, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Russian troops are “getting slaughtered” in their fight for Bakhmut.
>conscript 300k additional mobiks
>in addition to your yearly scheduled conscriptions
>totals to half a million new soldats for Puccia
>l-look there are more of them
Lmaaaaoooooo,
>be Ukraine
>kill 300k orcs (homosexuals)
>Puccia conscripts 500k more
>xaxaxaxxa*~~ you must of kill them too now stupid khokhol
Bigger than at start and yet they fail to take Bakhmut?
You are aware that 90%+ of Russia's resources are nowhere near Bakhmut, right? moron.
Source?
check incel smegma z
lots of good source that ukroop pigs don't want u to see
I DEMAND YOU ATTACK NATO TERRITORIES NOW YOU MISERABLE COWARDS! THIS FEEBLE SKIRMISH WITH YOUR FORMER THRALLS IS NOT ENOUGH! ATTACK THE WEST! UNLEASH YOUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS SO SKULLS MAY BE APLENTY!
>post article
>article says the opposite of what your bait was meant to imply
>well akshually the article is wrong
Then why post the headline to begin with?
i didnt post any articles but very emotional words like "slaughtered" may feel like a compelling argument and have a strong effect on feminine minds like yours whereas men appreciate quantities
Okay
says that Russia is running a 2.5:1 ratio. From a quantitative standpoint, Russian soldiers are being slaughtered.
>Bigger with less equipment.
So less effective and more prone to starving to death.
it does? didn't it have about 200k casualties for the russian side with 43k dead
he's talking about the real leaked intel you can only find on incel slava z
>gloating about losing 2.5:1
>coping by bringing up the Russian military killing unarmed civilians
???
the entire problem with the invasion in the first place was the Russian military was nowhere near the size needed to actually take over the country once the rush on Kiev failed, no shit the Russians are having to funnel more forces in
Russia is the modern analogue to the Ottoman Empire, they still adapt and learn and try to compensate for problems even if the process has been a fricking shitshow
You admitted that Russia is taking massive losses, and attempt to offset this by bragging about the death of unarmed civilians. How is killing unarmed civilians an achievement? You have to be a false flag at this point.
>source edited out
It's so tiresome at this point
Russian army at the start of the war - at peacetime size.
Russian army right now - reserves called up, penal battalions, forced conscription, using airfield crews and ship crews as infantry.
If they were smaller now than they were at the start of the war, that would imply casualties in the vicinity of 2,000,000.
Having more canonfodder and spoiled lives isnt the great achievement you think it is!
How is it "Zelensky loses" why are you using the Russian narrative that Zelensky is forcing Ukraine to fight and without Zelensky Ukraine would surrender and embrace Russia?
What happens when Russian supporters like yourself are hunted down, will we finally be rid of your subhuman behavior?
The Russian military is taking obscene losses against the Ukrainians. Russia is losing to a backwater country armed with Soviet equipment and NATO's spare change, and you cope with this by bringing up civilian loses.
Wait, you're telling me the second army in the world has gotten even bigger and still can't take a town 100 miles from its border?
How does the article you just posted prove that Zelensky is losing?
Vatniks have been trying to present this amendment as some big proof of tyrant Zelensky having to punish his people to distract from what's going on in Russia.
The missing context is that it has been in parliamentary limbo for a while and was amended to a milder form from the initially rejected proposal.
Meanwhile how laws are ratified in Russia:
>rewrite it and add amendments the previous day
>if anyone disagrees, remind them of "what happened in 1937"
>expanded mass mobilization and retiring the rule of law in one day, babeh
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/russian-soldiers-commanders-used-barrier-troops-stop-retreating
>banan is other way brother*~~
Funny thing about blocking detachments and prison betallions is even the soviets stopped using them. So a nation known for inefficiency even found them to not work well.
They've been "taking it" alright. And for 10 months no less. What a fricking joke
>the gay israelite regime the U.S. installed
Please elaborate
>all sources
No sources (save for vatnik ones that are obligated to at gun point) say that. Not even the article you posted says that
>save for vatnik ones that are obligated to at gun point
Be fair - there are plenty of useful idiots in western media. Most of them don't even have war correspondents so they just repost unverified claims by Indian and Russian sources.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/ukraine-is-winning-war-russia/627121/
You might be Russian, but you are certainly coping.
Are you going to post even one source saying ukraine is losing? You havent even given a russian one that is guaranteed to say that no matter what
Why do you keep posting articles that don't say that, then?
It surely won't run out of vatniks waiting to get killed and die in the mud, luckily!
"The RF today has a higher population but lower combat effectiveness"
Which is very obvious.
I’m saying that you, personally, should have a nice day immediately.
That's kinda what happens when you forcibly conscript hundreds of thousands of men to fill the ranks. Quantity doesn't mean quality.
whether you're some russian wienersucker or a bootlicking incel from pol makes little difference - your posts are dogshit and you should off yourself.
I guess it was to be expected that "intellectual" is an insult in a vatniks mind
Damn, that’s a pretty high number of civilian casualties, how tragic…
we should lobby NATO to deploy ground forces to safeguard eastern Ukraine, don’t you think
Why wait? They are accepting volunteers. Go be the change you want to see instead of waiting for others to do it for you.
Actually they're not taking volunteers. Only people with real combat experience as infantry or direct combat support are getting taken now.Ukraine's flush for manpower.
Russia on the other hand will take any warm body that can stagger through customs.
>Ukranians understandably don't want to die for the gay israelite regime the U.S. installed.
Yeah, I don't think anyone wants to die for Zelensky or even democracy.
Good thing Russian scum gave them a better reason to fight by invading.
>all sources
>source:my ass
Yea, "all sources", dumb homosexual. If they didn't want to fight, then why russia is still struggling to conventionally beat them? An un motivated army on the defensive would have collapsed and you're spreading the same cope that the russians thought before invading Ukraine. Which was"ukrainians are not willing to fight"
It still doesn't say what you're saying it does
>whereas men appreciate quantities
I'm sure vatBlack folk will appreciate the massive quantities of russian cum that sloshing in your belly you sperg.
cherry picked opinion piece headlines aren't "sources".
goddamit this thread is pathetic, you morons really were giving (you)s to the autistic homosexual you should all have a nice day and go leave. Don't fall to the bait next time
Meanwhile, anal rape is used by officers and senior soldiers to assert dominance over newer enlisted
In the Russian Armed Forces, I forgot to add
Aren't the vatBlack folk the ones constantly screeching that Ukraine needs to outnumber them hundreds to one in places like bakhmut? There was that cope post making the rounds a few months ago that showed lots of separate units to Russia's few separate units, in NATO symbology
kek, this' going to my folder
Hahahaha. I wondered what the fuss was all about
>*russian cumslurping and russian cum belly sloshing intensifies*
Disgusting. but you can't expect too much from morons supporting totalitarian strongmen dictators sending aids invaders into neighboring countries.
Disastrous for who? Commies? Not for Russia's victims in the West. This is payback for the entire Left (Russia is why it exists) including all anti-weapons laws. You cannot love weapons and serve Russia, vatBlack person.
You're brown and stupid and you will lose like every time before. My precious /k/ will thrive on the corpses of its enemies.
>you must take all of your recruited troops, put them through a 2 week basic course then throw them into Bakhmut!
You're now aware that quite a few of the US divisions involved in the Normandy landings were formed in the US, spent multiple actual years training for everything from mountain invasions to amphibious landings, before seeing their first contact as a division in France. Part of the reason why the "Patton is the general leading the invasion!" meme worked so well is because the Germans at that point honestly had no fricking idea how many divisions had been raised, where they were or what they were doing, so a notional "invasion army" lead by a notoriously aggressive armored general with completely nonexistent divisions was taken seriously by German intelligence.
Like really holy frick I know you're going to say I'm coping but the Ukrainian counteroffensive force could be twice the size you think it is and the Russians probably wouldn't know until the unknown half slammed through their lines and ended up in Rostov.
>invade Ukraine "to stop Donbas genocide"
>kill 40k civilians in the Donbas
>XAXAXA STUPID HOHOLS WE KILLED MORE THAN YOU IF YOU COUNT CIVILIANS
Fricking moron.
Yeah, they were only attempting the largest amphibious invasion in history against a country that had spend the previous 4 years destroying Europe. No biggie. I'm sure a bunch of moronic conscripts from Iowa would have done just fine.
>I'd rather drink gallons of Russian cum than spend another cent on this disastrous war
The Conservative agenda.
Honestly with how blatantly in the closet most of these vatniks are I think you could make him do it without the money with a bit of gentle encouragement and soft cuddling.
Are you seriously saying Ukraine is still under an existential threat? Lmao. It has all the time in the world.
Post Kyiv. Actually no, better, post the fields to the west of Bakhmut.
>RU forces more numerous today than when they invaded
>The quality of those RU forces is questionable at best
And the west can keep this up much longer than Russia can.
I like how even the shills are admitting that Russia has lost at least as many KIA in one year than the US did in 10 years of Vietnam (50 years ago). The consequences have surpassed simple embarrassment, this is national suicide.
Is that Mark Felton?
I'm of the opinion that the west's goal is to drag this out as long as possible to damage Russia as badly as possible, with an end result of Ukraine retaking all of its territory and Russia being hamstringed and even more irrelevant for the next 2 decades or more. Trickling in improved capabilities so the Russians still think they can win if they double down is a key part of ensuring they will bleed as much as possible.
>xaxaxa we're so good at war we'll send our youth to die until you eventually get tired xaxaxa
That's not what the Taliban or NVA did but please feel free to try it. I want to buy a Lada.
>sucks their leaked intel contradicts that
sucks that the """"""leaked intel"""""" is a shit-stirring psyop by either incompetent FSB/GRU glow-goons (or very snarky CIA/NSA glow-goons pretending to be incompetent FSB/GRU glow-goons)
...and you were dumb enough to fall for it.
Meds
>I'd rather drink gallons of Russian cum than spend another cent on this disastrous war
Tell me you are a serb without saying "I am a serb"
If someone finds out who this OP actually is through internet wizardry somehow, it would be great so he understands that words on the internet can sometimes lead to real life consequences for the same
Glow go home
I don't think I will.
A window has been opened by the Russians in which we could quickly defeat them militarily. This happened because Putin didn’t understand how awful the armed forces were before launching this invasion. Probably all the corrupt officers and brass were hoping that there actually wouldn’t be a war.
But, that window won’t stay open forever. Now that Putin is hyper-focusing on the military and MIC issues, things for them will improve, not get worse. It seems unlikely that Ukraine by itself will be able to inflict a decisive loss on Russia, so that leaves it up to us. Everything converged to create this opportunity, but it looks like our leadership will let it slip by.
I dunno dude I doubt Russia can sustain this war for the next 25 years in order to 'improve' their military. They began the war in a pretty bad position, got extrodinarily worse over the last year. It's not going to get any better any time soon. Millions of able bodied people have fled the country, hundreds of thousands have died or been horribly maimed in the war. They're experiencing brain drain and they're about to face their worst workers shortage in a long time. Mind you this is all happening while the country will experience a pretty bad demographic crisis in the future as well. Even if Putin purges every single corrupt element in his government, that doesn't change the fact that they simply just don't have enough steam to keep the war going.
are you talking about russia or ukraine
>things for them will improve, not get worse.
Unlikely, their financial situation is rapidly deteriorating after losing a substantial chunk of their oil and gas revenues, and access to most foreign credit markets. Oil prices are down across the board and the price cap mechanism worked surprisingly well. Ramping up production to come close to matching loss rates is a pipe dream for them. And there has been little to no sign of institutional reform within the ranks that I have seen - morale and discipline are worse than they were in the early days.
>Now that Putin is hyper-focusing on the military and MIC issues, things for them will improve,
With what money, what factories, and what materials?
>Puccia is winning guys
>A-Any day now
God I can't wait for the cope when israelitetin dies and that shithole degenerates into civil war
>when israelitetin dies
The Russians will discover Putin was a traitor and enemy of the people all along, just like every other Russian rule since 1900.
>that shithole degenerates into civil war
The CIA used their witch magic to stage a color revolution in Moscow, and the new Russian strongman has no choice but to send all his political opponents to the gulags.
Pattern recognition isn't the Russians strong suit.
>The Russians will discover Putin was a traitor and enemy of the people all along, just like every other Russian rule since 1900.
This
Expect a new edition of Zhukov's memoirs for the occasion
And it would take the US was a day of air raids and then another day of ground operations. So as the second army in thr world Russia taking a the better part if year seems pretty fricking pathetic. What you don't seem to grasp and haven't since day 4 of the 3 day operation is it doesn't matter if Russia eventually wins it has shit itself on the world stage, and it's power is broken. Nothing can fix that but a time machine.
Don't forget that two of its main industries - energy and weapons - are irreparably damaged as a result.
Ya China isn't going to pay half of what Germany paid for energy. And we have already seen the world back off of russian gear and rush even more towards western MIC
it won't win, it doesn't have the forces and equipment to push past the Dnipro so the best they can get is the current holdings. Ukraine gets admitted into NATO and russia is left with massive casualties, war debt, unrest, recession yada yada until the shithole collapses again and Ukraine can just walk in and take its territory back
I haven't seen anyone claim Russia is going to lose quickly in a long time.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
>everyone here is le sheeple
Meanwhile you didn't even actually read the source of OP's pic because it literally says that Russians are getting completely slaughtered.
Russia taking heavy losses is expected, but still not good. It's also compounded by the fact that Russia seems unwilling to devote significant time/manpower/resources to conducting MEDEVAC.
Do you have any screenshots of people saying Russia will withdraw soon?
The most Ukraine side optimism I've seen is people expecting a counterattack to take an oblast within a few months.
ENOUGH OF THIS TALK!
I demand you russians to attack all neighbor NATO nations and launch your nuclear arsenals upon western cities so a true war may be unleash upon this blasted world rather than this pathetic skirmish!
You moscovite dogs are all effete cowards who haven't been capable to take down one of your miserable former oblasts, while Khorne cares not from whom it flows sending the weak hordes of your thrall satrapies to shed their blood to the guns of the West only shows you and that apeman you have as king are spineless mongrels!
ESCALATE THE WAR! ESCALATE THE WAR!
INVOKE THE FIFTH ARTICLE SO KHORNE MY FEAST THIS SEASON!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
frick off naorpoBlack person you zooiphile
>make a reasonable statement
>instant chimpout by redditors
>/wtg/ follows me to this shithole and starts chimping as well
fun
no
alright, give me like 15 mins to eat breakfast and drink my coffee
>sucking off a gay polish NEET microcelebrity
you are so pathetic dude
you are so pathetic
actually give me 2 hours im also phoneposting
yea
Are you going to respond to
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NAOR STOP ARGUING WITH VATNIKS AND PLAY WAR THUNDER WITH ME!!!
WE CAN PLAY 11.3 USSR WITH YOU PLAYING CHINA!
IT WILL BE FUN!
thats nice and all, but not as based as Dorit_ree
>this is to be expected when undertaking offensive operations against a target as heavily fortified as bakhmut, I'm honestly surprised they managed to push into the city center seeing as how Ukraine had months to build up fortifications there.
So if Russia is having so much trouble taking the Bakhmut Superfortress, how much devastation will they suffer when they launch themselves against Interdimensional Hyperfortress Kramatorsk? How do you expect Russia to win with that in mind?
cry some more about it
top projection
Can you spread anti russian propaganda by just using pro vatnik sounding clickbait tittle?
>flood your army with conscripts
>you can only afford infantry
All accordimg to plan
Here's my answer to the OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01AMCBG0Wk
Clearly not running out of shills
>less equipment
>more soldiers
That doesn't sound good for russian mobiks.
that specific anon you're talking to is austrian
does that count as third world
>Russian ground forces 'bigger today' than at start of the war
Oh no! They went from 5'5" to 5'6" on average
>I'm neither a subhuman nor do I live in a 3rd world c**t, try again
>posts tranime
Sorry to break it to you but youre clearly some third worlder groomed on discord
im sorry, the only cure is to have a nice day.
>this is to be expected when undertaking offensive operations against a target as heavily fortified as bakhmut,
Bakhmut was never intended to become a fortress and a last stand. It only became fortified because after weeks Russians couldn’t take anything of substance. So weeks became months and it became fortified. And there are dozens more to go after bakhmut. But 2 more weeks right? Then it’ll be over