UK MILITARY CHIEFS WANT TO CATCH UP WITH CHINA, RUSSIA, AND THE US. Britain plans to equip the Armed Forces with a homegrown hypersonic cruise missile by the end of the decade, The Telegraph has learnt. Military chiefs want a weapon capable of reaching speeds exceeding Mach 5 as the Government races to catch up with China, Russia and the US. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has insisted that the new weapon be designed and built entirely in Britain and is understood to have set a deadline of 2030 for it to enter service.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/27/britain-deploy-homegrown-hypersonic-missile-by-2030
>Yet another ballistic missile calling itself hypersanic
Neat. I'm not seething, I think the addition of stealth to the rear of a circular missile is odd though. I guess it breaks up the thermal from the plume?
Still, good to see, I hope Russia gets some too.
I think they do want an actual scramjet by their wording.
>“scramjet” engine, which uses compressed air moving at supersonic speeds to aid the combustion of liquid or solid fuel.
Pic is not representative. No indication yet regarding which program will be resumed for the 2030 missile. This pic is just one of the only CVS401 Perseus-related renders that turn up on image search if you filter by large.
>program resumed
I do think this is very much safe to say here though, given the deadline.
Relax, it's a red rocket among alternatives that look like picrel. Unfortunately adding "deviantart" didn't yield anything more fun so I went with the vanilla.
Context
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Cruise/Anti-Ship_Weapon
my Black person in christ that's an anti-ship missile performing a terminal dive on a target.
>I think the addition of stealth to the rear of a circular missile is odd though.
Edge diffraction is the thing. Rear is the same as forward for stealth (this is why critique of if canards for stealliis wrong).
Fun fact: conical warhead (MIRV) with semi spherical rear has 100 times less forward RCS than just conical warhead.
>I'm not seething,
I'm slightly tired of it myself.
Reading the article it seems they're not even that far into the design.
It is the new prestige current thing.
The real deal or another boost-glide weapon to add to the pile?
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/new-uses-new-propellants-mbda-germany-on-the-future-of-hypersonics/
>Zimper continued. For HYDIS2, Zimper said MBDA Germany brings a “very specific capability” in that it has an operational ramjet system.
Is it though?
They are talking about terminal maneuverability Black person sir
>homegrown
>another french weapon anglos are taking credit for
Why are they like this?
Is it French?
I understand that MBDA is basically a French company since they do all of the rocketry, navigation and electronics but is there any info on this concept?
Bong/frog theft claims are part bantz and part coopting of said bantz by our resident troll for nefarious and wicked purposes. Trust nothing on the subject without ze proofs. If you enter a france v. anglo or france v. kraut thread and there's one guy replying with 2k chars, no line-breaks, and every claim individually
>broken out
for rebuttal, that's the resident frog. He's generally well-informed.
MBDA is an interesting construct. It's the joint venture formed from the missile segments of the brit, french and Italian national aerospace "champions" - british aero, aerospatiale -> airbus, finmeccanica -> leonardo.
The local branches have flexibility in compartmentalizing/siloing or pooling resources, on a program by program basis.
This is the crux of why Europe has first-class missile programs like SCALP/StormShadow and Meteor while countless other JVs and consortium projects fall on their asses. Ultimately the euros are probably gonna share enough missile requirements that cross-pollination is in everyone's interest sooner or later, so the local branches' work tends to converge.
>that's the resident frog. He's generally well-informed.
Yeah, I like Pierre.
>rest of the post
Yeah, MBDA has been a definite success when it comes to pan-European cooperation.
>He's generally well-informed
lol no
>lol
En francais, c'est «haha with cheese»
>no
TKMV (ton km may vary)
>getting mad because OP pulled some random hypersonic euro missile image from google
Perseus wasn't even a real weapon project and it's not even depicted in the article OP posted
Perseus was just some napkin-waffe MBDA came up with to show they were interested in maybe making hypersonic missiles, and that they asked some goons in the British and French navies for some outline requirements to show MBDA can come up with ideas that fit customer's needs.
It's completely unrelated to any real-world hypersonic missile Britain or France might pursue, since it was always complete fantasy-shit, with no real-world formal requirement behind it.
Dude, this is the UK MoD we're talking about here. In an election year that looks all but certain to be going to Labour. This is going to look very promising for a few months, make great progress, and then get shut down before it actually enters service (despite the vast amount already spent on it) so that Labour can fund yet more drag-queen poetry readings.
Holy sheet what's up with these grassroot hypersonic missiles????
>2030
Ah so about 2045 then.
By which time we'll have abandoned the program and purchased from the US instead.
Implessive
It’s always funny how badly the British MIC wants to fit in. I have complete faith that they will not deliver a working hypersonic cruise missile into service by 2030
It's funny how warriorturd is such a coward even online he often doesn't actually reply but just adds a random post in the middle of the thread that doesn't tag anyone.
Next up
>wHo'S wArRiOrTaRd
I wish hed get a hobby tbh
You are either him or mentally ill.
So what happened to the anti-ship missile they were developing wuth France?
It was supposed to be a hypersonic but now it isn't and now all of the sudden, France is working on their hypersonic for their tactical nooks and UK is doing this.
What happen?
WHO allows them??? Why are we not preemptively bombing them before they get those weapons??
>hypersonic
Is this actually real or is it just propaganda?
Russians love nothing more than to brag about their hypersonic missiles, but I've never seen any convincing evidence that such a thing exists.
The best anyone's ever presented to me are videos showing a flying missile along with an unverifiable claim that the missile being shown is in fact hypersonic.
Russian Kinzhals are hypersonic, yes.
However, so are V2s, and Pershing IIs(on which Kinzhal is based on).
As for a missile that is maneuverable at hypersonic speeds and is powered by a scramjet, no, neither China nor Russia have demonstrated that they have this technology.
Also, the development team of the Kinzhal has been arrested for treason last year.
Using the qualifyer "hypersonic" for a missile class that basically always reaches hypersonic speeds at some point along its trajectory is completely useless.
The MBDA guy in
says the same.
>Zimper said he didn’t consider Russia’s Kh-47M2 Kinzhal a true hypersonic weapon because, even if it flies at hypersonic speeds, it’s “not a marked hypersonic weapon because of its limited maneuverability.” Russia’s Avangard boost glide vehicle and China’s Dongfeng-17 system, however, are another story and are, in Zimper’s view, “credible hypersonic designs.”
>it’s “not a marked hypersonic weapon because of its limited maneuverability.”
it doesnt need to "manuever' because its already horizontally launched from a mig31
That doesn't make any sense.
>That doesn't make any sense.
not again
nafo vaporware .jpgs are based
hopes&dreams are based
planned&expected is based
>he's chanting now
Is this some kind of, dare I say, ritual?
>homegrown
Did the Ukrainian biolabs pay off and let the Brits manage to grow missiles on trees?
(you)
Empire bros we are so back.
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Oh christ, there are still memepage admins circling the drain, twiddling their thumbs and not finding any better creative outlets than to make these things? At least some nice mashup work on archival footage, not whatever the frick this star trek shit is.
I didn't realize India was so close to hypersonics.