Britain to deploy homegrown hypersonic missile by 2030

UK MILITARY CHIEFS WANT TO CATCH UP WITH CHINA, RUSSIA, AND THE US. Britain plans to equip the Armed Forces with a homegrown hypersonic cruise missile by the end of the decade, The Telegraph has learnt. Military chiefs want a weapon capable of reaching speeds exceeding Mach 5 as the Government races to catch up with China, Russia and the US. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has insisted that the new weapon be designed and built entirely in Britain and is understood to have set a deadline of 2030 for it to enter service.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/27/britain-deploy-homegrown-hypersonic-missile-by-2030

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Yet another ballistic missile calling itself hypersanic
    Neat. I'm not seething, I think the addition of stealth to the rear of a circular missile is odd though. I guess it breaks up the thermal from the plume?
    Still, good to see, I hope Russia gets some too.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think they do want an actual scramjet by their wording.
      >“scramjet” engine, which uses compressed air moving at supersonic speeds to aid the combustion of liquid or solid fuel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pic is not representative. No indication yet regarding which program will be resumed for the 2030 missile. This pic is just one of the only CVS401 Perseus-related renders that turn up on image search if you filter by large.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >program resumed
        I do think this is very much safe to say here though, given the deadline.

        my Black person in christ that's an anti-ship missile performing a terminal dive on a target.

        Relax, it's a red rocket among alternatives that look like picrel. Unfortunately adding "deviantart" didn't yield anything more fun so I went with the vanilla.

        Context
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Cruise/Anti-Ship_Weapon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my Black person in christ that's an anti-ship missile performing a terminal dive on a target.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think the addition of stealth to the rear of a circular missile is odd though.
      Edge diffraction is the thing. Rear is the same as forward for stealth (this is why critique of if canards for stealliis wrong).

      Fun fact: conical warhead (MIRV) with semi spherical rear has 100 times less forward RCS than just conical warhead.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not seething,
      I'm slightly tired of it myself.

      The real deal or another boost-glide weapon to add to the pile?

      Reading the article it seems they're not even that far into the design.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is the new prestige current thing.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real deal or another boost-glide weapon to add to the pile?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/new-uses-new-propellants-mbda-germany-on-the-future-of-hypersonics/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zimper continued. For HYDIS2, Zimper said MBDA Germany brings a “very specific capability” in that it has an operational ramjet system.
      Is it though?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s “not a marked hypersonic weapon because of its limited maneuverability.”
        it doesnt need to "manuever' because its already horizontally launched from a mig31

        They are talking about terminal maneuverability Black person sir

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >homegrown
    >another french weapon anglos are taking credit for

    Why are they like this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it French?
      I understand that MBDA is basically a French company since they do all of the rocketry, navigation and electronics but is there any info on this concept?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bong/frog theft claims are part bantz and part coopting of said bantz by our resident troll for nefarious and wicked purposes. Trust nothing on the subject without ze proofs. If you enter a france v. anglo or france v. kraut thread and there's one guy replying with 2k chars, no line-breaks, and every claim individually
        >broken out
        for rebuttal, that's the resident frog. He's generally well-informed.

        MBDA is an interesting construct. It's the joint venture formed from the missile segments of the brit, french and Italian national aerospace "champions" - british aero, aerospatiale -> airbus, finmeccanica -> leonardo.

        The local branches have flexibility in compartmentalizing/siloing or pooling resources, on a program by program basis.

        This is the crux of why Europe has first-class missile programs like SCALP/StormShadow and Meteor while countless other JVs and consortium projects fall on their asses. Ultimately the euros are probably gonna share enough missile requirements that cross-pollination is in everyone's interest sooner or later, so the local branches' work tends to converge.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >that's the resident frog. He's generally well-informed.
          Yeah, I like Pierre.
          >rest of the post
          Yeah, MBDA has been a definite success when it comes to pan-European cooperation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He's generally well-informed
          lol no

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >lol
            En francais, c'est «haha with cheese»
            >no
            TKMV (ton km may vary)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >getting mad because OP pulled some random hypersonic euro missile image from google
      Perseus wasn't even a real weapon project and it's not even depicted in the article OP posted
      Perseus was just some napkin-waffe MBDA came up with to show they were interested in maybe making hypersonic missiles, and that they asked some goons in the British and French navies for some outline requirements to show MBDA can come up with ideas that fit customer's needs.
      It's completely unrelated to any real-world hypersonic missile Britain or France might pursue, since it was always complete fantasy-shit, with no real-world formal requirement behind it.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dude, this is the UK MoD we're talking about here. In an election year that looks all but certain to be going to Labour. This is going to look very promising for a few months, make great progress, and then get shut down before it actually enters service (despite the vast amount already spent on it) so that Labour can fund yet more drag-queen poetry readings.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy sheet what's up with these grassroot hypersonic missiles????

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >2030

    Ah so about 2045 then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By which time we'll have abandoned the program and purchased from the US instead.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s always funny how badly the British MIC wants to fit in. I have complete faith that they will not deliver a working hypersonic cruise missile into service by 2030

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how warriorturd is such a coward even online he often doesn't actually reply but just adds a random post in the middle of the thread that doesn't tag anyone.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Next up
        >wHo'S wArRiOrTaRd
        I wish hed get a hobby tbh

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Next up
        >wHo'S wArRiOrTaRd
        I wish hed get a hobby tbh

        You are either him or mentally ill.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what happened to the anti-ship missile they were developing wuth France?
    It was supposed to be a hypersonic but now it isn't and now all of the sudden, France is working on their hypersonic for their tactical nooks and UK is doing this.
    What happen?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHO allows them??? Why are we not preemptively bombing them before they get those weapons??

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hypersonic
    Is this actually real or is it just propaganda?
    Russians love nothing more than to brag about their hypersonic missiles, but I've never seen any convincing evidence that such a thing exists.
    The best anyone's ever presented to me are videos showing a flying missile along with an unverifiable claim that the missile being shown is in fact hypersonic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian Kinzhals are hypersonic, yes.
      However, so are V2s, and Pershing IIs(on which Kinzhal is based on).

      As for a missile that is maneuverable at hypersonic speeds and is powered by a scramjet, no, neither China nor Russia have demonstrated that they have this technology.

      Also, the development team of the Kinzhal has been arrested for treason last year.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Using the qualifyer "hypersonic" for a missile class that basically always reaches hypersonic speeds at some point along its trajectory is completely useless.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The MBDA guy in

          https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/new-uses-new-propellants-mbda-germany-on-the-future-of-hypersonics/

          says the same.
          >Zimper said he didn’t consider Russia’s Kh-47M2 Kinzhal a true hypersonic weapon because, even if it flies at hypersonic speeds, it’s “not a marked hypersonic weapon because of its limited maneuverability.” Russia’s Avangard boost glide vehicle and China’s Dongfeng-17 system, however, are another story and are, in Zimper’s view, “credible hypersonic designs.”

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s “not a marked hypersonic weapon because of its limited maneuverability.”
            it doesnt need to "manuever' because its already horizontally launched from a mig31

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That doesn't make any sense.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That doesn't make any sense.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not again

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nafo vaporware .jpgs are based
    hopes&dreams are based
    planned&expected is based

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he's chanting now
      Is this some kind of, dare I say, ritual?

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >homegrown
    Did the Ukrainian biolabs pay off and let the Brits manage to grow missiles on trees?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (you)

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Empire bros we are so back.

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    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh christ, there are still memepage admins circling the drain, twiddling their thumbs and not finding any better creative outlets than to make these things? At least some nice mashup work on archival footage, not whatever the frick this star trek shit is.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't realize India was so close to hypersonics.

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