Post guns that look nice, but are ultimately subpar at best and worthless at worst. Guns you'd find in some rich guy's house and wonder if he could even tell you what caliber it is, much less know how to use it. Guns that would instantly lower your respect for someone just by owning them, even if only slightly. Pic is moronic but I didn't know how to express this.
I am NOT talking about Gangster, blinged-out guns, they need to be somewhat presentable.
(Full-disclosure, I'm designing a character and need reference ideas)
This will piss some people off and undoubted get argument (and not even entirely unreasonable argument), but the best example I can think of is the F2000, sort of. It's undoubtedly an iconic space gun look. It does work as in it shoots bullets, and reliably.
But it's by far the shittiest most unpleasant bullpup I've ever shot. It's mogged by all the modern options we have now. I'd pick an Aug, a design from way earlier, over it in a heartbeat. If someone had one and said it was their main gun and then showed they knew their shit and downsides I'd respect that. And if some richgay was just plain a serious bullpup collector who just really wanted everything I wouldn't lose respect for them having it alongside other curious out of production historical models. They could say "yeah I barely shoot this one vs the others but really like having there alongside them" and that's fine.
But for a rich brand new purchaser who then just had that gun and didn't show any signs of shooting much if ever my first suspicion would be they bought it for looks and being "collector" and expensive.
Handguns :
S&W 59
Ruger p45
Lol modern kumber 1911s
Newly made colt anything
Walther ppq ( holy shit they're xursed)
Rifles
Marlin/ruger 1895 ( it's hilarious on how overpriced for what it's worth compared to any Italian 1886 let alone a miroku one)
Ruger RPR and sig cross when a Tikka or decently built howa/sabatti/rem700 exists)
Oberlands arms/Diamondback
Anything brugger & thomet
Almost anything schmeisser
New blaser straight pulls
Anything marked webley & Scott made today
T, euro gunstore employee
>Lol modern kumber 1911s
>Newly made colt anything
>Walther ppq ( holy shit they're xursed)
My best friend owns all of these kek
>Almost anything schmeisser
Frick you, their SBR AR15s are fricking great and they're still the same price as Daniel Defense.
>Blaser and Brügger & Thomet
you are a huge homosexual
enjoy the 40k base salary lmao
I'll argue for the Smith 59 and the Ruger P-series. My first handgun was a 59, and back when they were about $350 were a really good bargain. Same with P-series, because those used to be about the same price. Boomers and speculators driving up the price because muh collektable are trash, but they do that to everything they lay hands on.
>t. merishart
Dunno, turkshit bullpup export models maybe?
Part of the challenge here is that it's hard to think of any gun at all which isn't "blinged-out" that wouldn't still be a fun silly rangetoy thing too if nothing else. Even the most moronic YOU ABSOLUTE PIECE OF SHIT (not actively at risk of exploding) guns can still turn into a great time with bros as everyone shoots a mag and gets to remark on how shitty it is and compete on who can hit a 16" steel target at 100yd the most times if at all.
So for the purpose of your character and story a lot is going to come down to context and showing they bought a memegun not for fun but because they somehow thought it'd make them ultimate and respected even while knowing nothing about it and never shooting.
The character is supposed to be the definition of `bougie b***h that only cares about status but works hard enough that they tolerate her`, and I don't know how to give her an arm that reflects that. I plan on giving her some sort of sniper rifle but had no idea what gun would best fit that idea, hence why this thread exists.
>bougie b***h that only cares about status but works hard enough that they tolerate her
I nominate some flavor of unnecessarily fancy Glock racegun.
>yes it is actually good
>yes it is expensive and limited edition
>no you do not have good taste
>they look like shit and they're stupid but they work so it's fine, I guess, whatever
I’m even a Glockgay and think these are cancer. Took a class where the zoomer had the classic race gun and it malfunctioned all day.
It's just like the "Rice" car trend from the 90's. The gun and their parts are cheap enough to be accessible to any idiot. Meanwhile the idiot has no idea what parts to buy and why, but man all those fancy slides and carbon fiber hoods sure look cool in photos and catalogs. So, without any background knowledge, research, or plan they just buy whatever they can afford because it looks cool. Then they're surprised that their kludged-together mess of Chinesium parts performs worse than a stock Glock (or Honda).
The classic backwards tail scoop.
Love or hate him, James Yeager said the best way to frick up a Glock is add a mishmash of “enhanced” parts.
Not OP but that seems like it could be a good fit. Basically the gangster gun "but tasteful", a bunch of money spent on looks and such but not bright purple and gold plated, no it's "damascus steel!" instead or something. But still obviously conspicuous consumption for the sake of it without even the slightest bit of extra performance in return.
The question is the exact feel OP is going for. If it's
>"wealthy, actually somewhat competent at whatever they do, but still a huge fricking tasteless newmoney butthole"
your suggestion makes good sense. If it's more
>"has some knowledge in their specific field and made a lot of money at it, but then obnoxiously goes from that to claiming to be an expert in absolutely everything and poses with money"
flavor then "stupid accessories" might make more sense.
Hope all this helps OP.
Hrm. I think you're making a mistake to focus on the gun itself specifically. Rather, the path might be a combination of super fancy accessories with a gun such that the end result represents a ton of money but makes zero sense. Like, a gucci meme PCC like a Kriss Vector in .45 with an NF ATACR 7-35 scope, drum mag, a Surefire XVL2-IRC WML, and trying to think what else. Maybe a huge comp on the end. Or you could do a sniper rifle and then have an eokek and binary trigger. Or whatever, but you get the idea. Gucci parts that are individually expensive and nice and would impress noguns, but are hilarious in combination. 35x with 45acp? $1500 pistol light with 400 lumens and dual vis/ir for someone with no nods or anything?
I think that is the best way to proceed, because basically any gun at all is still a gun and by itself it's hard to really demonstrate much one way or another. Particularly for super fancy high end stuff, if you're willing to pay enough money the result will probably always be at least functional, and a richgay could credibly say "I don't care about marginal utility". But how it's outfitted requires actual knowledge, and it's easily possible to spend more money on that then the gun itself.
Also not sure what your target reader is OP, but another advantage to this approach is that it's very easy even for a lay audience to grasp what's wrong. You'll lose people on subtleties, but anyone can get the idea of
>"this idiot spent a lot of money on a very short range bullet and then combined it with a scope for shooting at 1000+yd that would be unusable at short range"
like bragging about putting a sports car engine in a fullsize pickup truck and how much it cost by someone who always gets driven around by a chauffeur and doesn't even have a driver's license.
Even a wealthy individual can commit their time and resources to a cause they believe in, even a noble cause. Such as helping the oppressed, even in revolt.
Consider a Beretta 50 BMG rifle. Certainly more expensive than a Serbu RN-50 or even an AR-50. A decent thermal scope or clip.
This allows you to engage targets from 1-2 miles away and even record live video for intelligence and propaganda. 50 BMG rifles can also take down helicopters and destroy engine blocks in vehicles. This is a good weapon for squad leaders and marksmen in a guerrilla capacity. Because otherwise you would be receiving standard issue weapons from an armory.
Personally, not speaking novels but just about war, I believe it is honorable to risk your own life as a leader in combat.
I prefer to lead from the front, in person. To inspire courage, it is honorable. But this does not neglect the need for squad tactics or long distance rifles. It is wise to assign squad leaders and marksmen long distance rifles.
As you can pair a spotter with the squad leader to spot targets for the entire squad, as well as provide fire support to save lives. I'm just speaking about the art of guerrilla warfare, which utilizes personal and commercial weaponry.
This nonsense sounds like it was written by an AI. If you're real, you must be a complete sperg.
>I plan on giving her some sort of sniper rifle but had no idea what gun would best fit that idea, hence why this thread exists.
What kind of wealth does she like to flaunt? If ultra-modern high tech stuff suits her character then go for an exotic modern brand like Barret, Accuracy International, B&T, McMillan, Steyr,
If she's more of an "old money" sort of character then a fancy wood-and-steel rifle like a Rigby, Holland & Holland, Griffin & Howe, etc would make more sense. Go with the former if she drives a Porsche. Go with the latter if she's chauffeured around in a Bentley.
Definitely more the 'old money' type, not in that she's a technophobe but it's not her thing. She's in her mid-40s.
Well, more like early-to-mid 50s if I'm being honest.
>Definitely more the 'old money' type, not in that she's a technophobe but it's not her thing. She's in her mid-40s.
Then it strikes me it's going to be hard to convey the feel you describe in the OP without having her go off character a bit to try to get something newtech show off and not really understanding it. Like, the most classic old money snobbish rich gun would probably be one of those super bespoke bong rifle/shotgun makers, something like a Holland & Holland double gun or James Purdey & Sons, which can easily be 6 figures or more. And obviously not like they're the slightest bit more effective then a fraction of that money on something modern.
At the same time though those are exquisite works of craftsmanship and certainly do work. The classic noble gentleman safari gun. I can't say I'd "lose respect" for someone with one of those per se. I'm not sure how you combine "old money" with OP picture, which seems much more like a newmoney thing.
Yeah, I think the concept is just flawed now that it's laid out, your tweaks and suggestions sound better. I want to make this character actually coherent, after all.
The situation with old-school London Best guns was not much different than today's high tech ELR rigs. In both cases you've got two classes of customer: one who is a serious hunter/shooter and wants the best because they're actually going to use it and are willing to pay for quality even at high levels of diminishing returns, and the other is simply someone with a lot of money who wants to show off. The only difference is that back in the day the bragging was in person and today it's on social media.
>The situation with old-school London Best guns was not much different than today's high tech ELR rigs
I don't think that's quite true anon, and I say that as someone seriously considering a fairly high end modern 300wm setup. But even with a super nice S&B optic etc, what I get would still ultimately be a product of modern mass manufacturing (albeit with a fair amount of hand attention on top), computer control CNC etc. Tip top quality but not really an example of craftsmanship either. An H&H gun is a gun, but it could also reasonably be thought of like a fine watch or clock. A fine watch isn't going to tell you the time any better then a digital, hell it'll be worse then something with GPS sync built in too. But some people like them for the example of incredible human ability and fine craftsmanship. Even for someone who never shot in their life, if they had me in their rich study and had an H&H next to some crazy swiss watches and whatever, and just said "I simply truly love fine machines like I would a fine sculpture" I'd consider them a bit eccentric for sure but couldn't fault their taste. Between a $250k H&H vs whatever $250k would buy you in fine art or marble, I'd consider the H&H and legitimate choice albeit definitely still not for me.
>The only difference is that back in the day the bragging was in person and today it's on social media.
I guess that's a way to do it then for OP, approach it from the artwork angle. Is someone getting it to brag, or do they really appreciate really nice artwork too? Maybe the way to convey that would be coordination. Like do they have a fancy gun amongst a hodge podge of other random fancy shit, or is there a theme going on? Do they know anything at all about it beyond "expensive" "rare"?
I will say, that this feels right up her alley to own.
>Yeah, I think the concept is just flawed now that it's laid out, your tweaks and suggestions sound better. I want to make this character actually coherent, after all.
This gay
here if you're still around OP. I do think you could make it work with a context and the right conversation, ie if the character is "Mallory":
>Anon stepped into Mallory's sitting room and glanced around. A number of items decorated the room, clearly quality, yet curiously mismatched as if chosen more for price then any particularly interest Mallory held for them.
>His eyes were drawn to an H&H rifle on a wall rack. A truly lovely instrument, but oddly placed between a post-modernist sculpture and garish gold lamp.
>"That's a fine rifle you have there."
>"Oh yes, a gun really livens up a sitting room does it not? I just knew I had to have one, and it cost quite a sum too, a quarter of a million! They only make a limited number per year but naturally I only have the best."
>"Indeed? May I ask what caliber it's chambered in?"
>"Oh, 9mm I believe. Very high quality."
>Anon smiled politely while wincing inside. It was certainly a high quality rifle, but it was painful to once again see Mallory care not at all about the actual qualities of things.
or whatever you have in mind, you're the writer. You could do anything, if the writing shows that it's ornamental and for showing off in the end.
honestly this. You can make pretty much any expensive gun work for this if you establish the character bought it because of the price and doesn't actually understand anything about it.
Anything Kimber
>things people covet
If it functions, it's worth something.
It's a tool honestly, it does a job.
Cabot, particularly if they're in the gun of the month club.
Infinity, Guncrafter Industries, Atlas, any stupid high end 2011 for competition, but the owner doesn't compete. Nighthawks, Korths, exclusive limited models of Euro pistols with case hardening, damascus, meteorite, etc.
I've got a suggestion for you, OP. Go look at expensive guns online and pick something you think would look/feel right for the character. You can go to sites like gunbroker or gunsinternational and set it to show you the highest price first. Or browse high-end auction catalogs, for example:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/catalog/88/
...by changing the number 88 to lower numbers you can view earlier catalogs.
I think really expensive custom 1911s (like $3500+) that offer no upgrades to the shootability over milspec. They’re presentation guns. Those guns that have slides engraved with acanthus leaves electrum plated, with cocobolo grips inlaid with nautilus horn. Bought by extremely wealthy noguns CEOs and Wall Street types to display in velvet lined boxes in their mansions as a symbol of wealth/power/American masculinity. They will never shoot it, or even own ammo for it, just show it off to other rich guys or post pictures of it online next to a box of Cuban cigars, bottle of Macallan 25, Patek Phillipe, etc.
Probably bolt action rifles used to hunt deer and over under shotguns used for bird hunting, clay shooting, etc. Think Perazzi for the shotgun.
That would be perfectly ironic for reasons I am not at liberty to disclose.
Surprised no one mentioned Korth.
>5k minimum
>6 shots standard, some run 8 shots which admittingly is nice
>just a lot of milling for weight reduction and barrel porting
>trigger feels like a Nice colt, SW, or dan wesson
>you could've bought a fricking Unica 6 or Mateba in this tax bracket.
I didn't mention Korth because I don't think they're very expensive compared to the fancypants hunting guns and shotguns, etc. But you have a very good point: if you buy a Perazzi or a Purdey or whatever yeah, they're expensive, but they're also reaaaaaly good guns. So maybe they're buying them just to show off but the guns aren't subpar at all. Nu-Korths are much more style than substance however. If someone is showing off an old Ratzenburg production Korth target pistol they're into either precision shooting or they just appreciate fine revolvers. If someone is showing off a Nu-Korth they are probably an attention prostitute who doesn't really appreciate fine guns or revolvers for any reason.
>Post guns that look nice
I think they do
>but are ultimately subpar at best
and worthless at worst
They're accurate competition pistols but quality varied so much that they gained a reputation for being highly unreliable. The larger one here can barely get through a mag without eating shit and dying. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it work consistently.
They still look fricking cool though.
Probably something like a semi auto pistol in 22lr.
I’ve been wanting to buy one for awhile and never get one because a) they seem fun for the first magazine only b) there is always some guy saying it’s a jamomatic.
Boutique shotguns
Bespoke safari rifles
LWRC/LMT
BRNO
AI
Cheytac
SCAR is entry level bougie
STI
Does Korth qualify or nah?
There's a guy on YT called the collector who strikes me as your guy. He has the John Wick safe and he talks about it like he must have the worst fricking taste ever. The first video I watched of him was on some maybe ww1 military rifles and he admitted that his wife picked them, that he doesn't know anything about historical guns and he was reading important stuff about their provenance from index cards.
He has cabots and korths and all the shit you'd expect a guy who googles "wut r expensive guns that make ppl like me".
I rag on him but he's a fellow enthusiast and some of his stuff is on my list too. He's not hard to watch but he seems like he doesn't really even know what he has, as long as you think it's cool he'll buy it.
Korth 1911 or BRNO FK
B&T PCC
H&K 416 or clone correct M110A1 rifle, not because it is a bad gun but because you have to jump through a shit load of hoops to get them correctly configured.
If you want to add a shotgun honestly it'd have to be a hunting gun because the Benelli M4 is basically the most expensive but also the best tactical shotgun.