So the Russians have shiffed to using all the old shit they keep in storage instead of using proper equipment? I guess they don't need their professionl army, or their reserves.
>Pray tell, where are the Russians keeping this vaunted "proper equipment" you speak of?
Same place the FSB keeps all their special equipment to protect Putin.
Soon they'll be dragging out the WW2 relics to send into the fight, by which I mean all the geriatric vatniks with "Hero of the USSR" medals.
>then >Survived Stalingrad >ate rats and sawdust for six months >then ate Nazi corpses for six more months >then ate each other >only the stronkest survived >now >recalled to duty to fight for Mother Russia >hobble into battle against the Ukronazis >wildly swing cane against hohol heads >they drag him down >take him to an old folks' home >give him a bottle of vodka and some tramadol >calm down, grandfather, it is time for your nap
This argument is quintessentially Russian, because it openly declares that the lives of their soldiers do not matter, and that throwing away hardware needlessly is perfectly normal.
turd worlders trying to astroturf support on this board don't know the difference between Donetsk, Luhansk, and Donbas. Because they couldn't point out Ukraine before the war began.
>But enough about Americans
Tell you what, you got such a problem with Americans and the EU then come and get your Indian and African, Chinese and Pakistani , Russian countrymen who love RUSSIA SO MUCH OUT OF THE EU, UK AND USA BEFORE WE MOUNT THEM ON FRICKING SPIKES FOR YOU TO LOOK AT
Ah, but you see, if you shoot thousands of shells in the general direction of the enemy then you are sure to hit something. That something can then become your target! Also every Russian shell fired has hit the ground somewhere, a 100% first round hit success rate!
Because while it might be marginally excusable that tanks supporting infantry would be overlooked by people lacking experience or lmao tanks in an urban area, IFVs as part of their entire design include infantry, with a weapon more suited to deleting infantry threats?
>150 bmd variants
about the vehicles of 15 VDV companies. >close to 300 BTRs
thats actually slightly interesting, the troops seem to have been really much more mechanized than motorized. Which in a way makes the whole ordeal even more sad, as mechanized units should be better for this kind of warfare...
Anyone got a source for the claim that Russians are now using S-300 anti-air missiles on ground targets? because those are not meant for that and they are not cheap
>Russia is moving reserve forces from across the country and assembling them near Ukraine for future offensive operations.
This fits with a tidbit a friend told me about Russia holding massive blood drives recently. Looks like they're getting ready for another big push soon.
>This fits with a tidbit a friend told me about Russia holding massive blood drives recently.
They're gonna need all that blood because if they're really pulling antiquated MT-LBs out of storage for a big push then this is going to be an absolute fricking bloodbath.
What in the frick are they thinking? Have they learned NOTHING from the last 4 months? I know they're stupid but this beggars belief, even an aggressive dog learns to back off after you smack it on the snout with a plank a few times.
The real downside to Russian centralized authority. Besides the fact it's restrictive and inefficient, it also promotes group-think.
The Russian High Command HAS learned nothing except to fall back on the time-honored Russian "strategy" of throwing more men at a problem and blowing shit up.
Both of which can be countered by wiping out Russian supplies and equipment.
>What in the frick are they thinking?
They're thinking "we can win this with human wave attacks! Ukraine doesn't have enough bullets to shoot all of our troops!"
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB >Mnogotselevoy tyagach legky bronirovanny, literally "multi-purpose towing vehicle light armored" >Main Armament: 7.62 mm PKT machine-gun
,,, >Armor:
oh god
oh god please be good >Armor: 14 mm max.
So the Russians have shiffed to using all the old shit they keep in storage instead of using proper equipment? I guess they don't need their professionl army, or their reserves.
>instead of using proper equipment
Pray tell, where are the Russians keeping this vaunted "proper equipment" you speak of?
they've carefully hidden them in ukrainian barns and junkyards
>Pray tell, where are the Russians keeping this vaunted "proper equipment" you speak of?
Same place the FSB keeps all their special equipment to protect Putin.
Soon they'll be dragging out the WW2 relics to send into the fight, by which I mean all the geriatric vatniks with "Hero of the USSR" medals.
>then
>Survived Stalingrad
>ate rats and sawdust for six months
>then ate Nazi corpses for six more months
>then ate each other
>only the stronkest survived
>now
>recalled to duty to fight for Mother Russia
>hobble into battle against the Ukronazis
>wildly swing cane against hohol heads
>they drag him down
>take him to an old folks' home
>give him a bottle of vodka and some tramadol
>calm down, grandfather, it is time for your nap
They’re just getting rid of their old and useless equipment first to wear down the hohols before they send their better stuff in
>Better equipment
Like fricking what, lol? If Russia loses all that shit in Ukraine, how can they stop their big scary boogeyman "THE WEST"?
We all know Putin is really afraid of THE WEST.
T-90m, t-14, su-57, all of the terminators, plus any other weapons they’ve been keeping out of the wests sight
All of those but the memata have already been deployed and did a whole lot of nothing
Do they have those in any sufficient numbers to stop an invasion of their territory, lol?
Yes. the 5 or so T-14s will be enough to destroy thousands of Abrams.
Putin really is a fricking idiot. If his military is utterly wrecked trying to conquer Ukraine, his country is helpless.
Pathetic macho dumbass.
This argument is quintessentially Russian, because it openly declares that the lives of their soldiers do not matter, and that throwing away hardware needlessly is perfectly normal.
>Russians are running out of PGM!
Ukies still blown up in precision strikes
>Russians are running out of artillery shells!
Ukies still blown up in artillery barrage after artillery barrage
>Ruskies are running out of vehicles!
Mechanized forces push Ukies out of Donetsk
It's so tiresome
the Donetsk lines are largely unchanged
turd worlders trying to astroturf support on this board don't know the difference between Donetsk, Luhansk, and Donbas. Because they couldn't point out Ukraine before the war began.
But enough about Americans
>But enough about Americans
Tell you what, you got such a problem with Americans and the EU then come and get your Indian and African, Chinese and Pakistani , Russian countrymen who love RUSSIA SO MUCH OUT OF THE EU, UK AND USA BEFORE WE MOUNT THEM ON FRICKING SPIKES FOR YOU TO LOOK AT
What precision strikes? Hitting a mall 10km away?
You do realize that they slowed their artillery barrage recently right? Didn't get the news?
Donetsk?They were pushed out of the cities they controlled in luhansk. Ukraine still occupies more than half of donetsk.
Fricking moron.
>precision
>ww1 style artillery
I don't think you understand what precision means Vatnk.
Ah, but you see, if you shoot thousands of shells in the general direction of the enemy then you are sure to hit something. That something can then become your target! Also every Russian shell fired has hit the ground somewhere, a 100% first round hit success rate!
The special military operation is targeting Ukraine, the artillery is hitting Ukraine, therefore Russian artillery never misses its target.
>>ww1 style artillery
nah, WW1 had million shells a day barrages, modern Russia has nothing on 1914 European armies
Russian arty spam lacks any kind of accuracy, which makes them burn through ammo fast.
Cripple their logistics and Russia is FRICKED.
>precision strikes
>r*ssia
pick one
>push Ukies out of Donetsk
DELETE THIS before they make fun of us
>Ukies still blown up in precision strikes
like that mall they blew up with an anti-ship missile because they ran out of PGM?
>Ukies still blown up in artillery barrage after artillery barrage
this one we dont know yet, the Ukranian focus on blowing up ammo depots is recent
>Mechanized forces push Ukies out of Donetsk
using obsolete T-62s
>114 BMP-3s lost
>322 BMP-2s lost
>115 BMP-1s lost
>63 "unknown" BMPs lost
why do I find this more pathetic than the tank losses?
Because while it might be marginally excusable that tanks supporting infantry would be overlooked by people lacking experience or lmao tanks in an urban area, IFVs as part of their entire design include infantry, with a weapon more suited to deleting infantry threats?
>150 bmd variants
about the vehicles of 15 VDV companies.
>close to 300 BTRs
thats actually slightly interesting, the troops seem to have been really much more mechanized than motorized. Which in a way makes the whole ordeal even more sad, as mechanized units should be better for this kind of warfare...
>taking the gloves of
next thing you know ukies and ruskis will beat each other to death with clubs and bats
UH RVSSIA bros??? How do we respond????? I though we havent even started?
The Russian War Machine cannot start because Russians forgot to put the engine in.
more like they stole it to pay for crack
Anyone got a source for the claim that Russians are now using S-300 anti-air missiles on ground targets? because those are not meant for that and they are not cheap
They can hit ground targets- theoretically and Belarus tried it out in the early 2000's
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1545449481642074112
Course, being the best use of them, maybe not
reminds me of this
>frick sake Jamal, put it away before you kill us all
Goldeneye Helicopter Escape Scene 2: Vatnik Edition.
>Russia is moving reserve forces from across the country and assembling them near Ukraine for future offensive operations.
This fits with a tidbit a friend told me about Russia holding massive blood drives recently. Looks like they're getting ready for another big push soon.
All the big scary Russian reserves on Earth are useless without something called SUPPLIES.
Ukraine just needs to keep hammering the entire Russian Logistical System, with the priority targets of course being fuel and artillery ammo.
>This fits with a tidbit a friend told me about Russia holding massive blood drives recently.
They're gonna need all that blood because if they're really pulling antiquated MT-LBs out of storage for a big push then this is going to be an absolute fricking bloodbath.
What in the frick are they thinking? Have they learned NOTHING from the last 4 months? I know they're stupid but this beggars belief, even an aggressive dog learns to back off after you smack it on the snout with a plank a few times.
Ukraine can handle that level of STUPID.
Wipe out the Russian supplies, and the Russian Offensive will collapse pretty fast.
Vehicles without fuel stop. Soldiers without food starve. Artillery without ammo can't fire.
As for what they're thinking? I'm thinking the Russians are running out of moves.
The real downside to Russian centralized authority. Besides the fact it's restrictive and inefficient, it also promotes group-think.
The Russian High Command HAS learned nothing except to fall back on the time-honored Russian "strategy" of throwing more men at a problem and blowing shit up.
Both of which can be countered by wiping out Russian supplies and equipment.
>What in the frick are they thinking?
They're thinking "we can win this with human wave attacks! Ukraine doesn't have enough bullets to shoot all of our troops!"
>ad hoc groupings
Kampfgruppe?
At this rate, Ukraine is going to have brand-new Guards-tier units aplenty while Russia is going to have street gang-tier units.
someone decipher the hidden code for true believers
I just received this top secret transmission from my secret sauce
Oh christ, MT-LBs were supposed to be fricking artillery tractors?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
>Mnogotselevoy tyagach legky bronirovanny, literally "multi-purpose towing vehicle light armored"
>Main Armament: 7.62 mm PKT machine-gun
,,,
>Armor:
oh god
oh god please be good
>Armor: 14 mm max.
And I thought rolling up to the Frontlines in a BMP-1 was bad
(You) kys
After this is over Russia will be so weak that they will be a Chinese vassal state.
>russian vehicle shortages
Potato shortage now too comrade.
>The BBC is funded by the British government and is considered state media.
in contrast, isnt it better to leave shit then your best stuff if and when your told to pull out?