Bizarro US

Lets say that, through some strange twist of events, the US collapses in 1991 instead of the Soviet Union. Its two largest successor states are the American Federation and the Republic of Texas.

What does it look like militarily?

What does the Texas three day special military operation look like?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The pic in the op is an M60-2000, which is basically an M60 with an Abrams turret grafted on. I think this would be the American Federation's defact primary MBT, due to the cost of the Abrams and difficulty maintaining its turbine engine. The M1A1 would act as a sort of T-90 analogue, being their on paper main tank, but being produced on too small of numbers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why would this be the case?
      Not OP, but the T-90 was a development of the T-72B. The closest thing the Russians have to the M1A2 SEPv3, in terms of when the original vehicle was developed and when its modernization packages "is" the T-90M.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hmm,you're right. I suppose the Abrams would be the T-80 analogue then, although in heavier use than the Russians used the T-80. I suppose the M60-2000 would be closer to a T-90, and the M60A5 would be like the T-72.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Hmm,you're right. I suppose the Abrams would be the T-80 analogue then, although in heavier use than the Russians used the T-80. I suppose the M60-2000 would be closer to a T-90, and the M60A5 would be like the T-72.

      The M60 is a T-62 analogue, the T-72 doesn't really have a direct American counterpart. The closest thing you might get to it would be like if America went all in on producing a simplified Abrams like what the XM803 was supposed to be to the MBT-70, and following the collapse of the USA this became the mainstay of the American tank fleet. It'd probably be something like a shittier 105mm M1 with a conventional diesel engine and lacking any of the upgrades from the M1A1 onwards. True Abrams would be mostly rotting in boneyards with a select few M1A1s being modernized and kept in use.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What the M8 or the Stryker MGS? Those are smaller, diesel powered vehicles. They might opt to lean more on those if producing true tanks proved too expensive.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >American federation invades canada trough both great lakes, Vermont and Alaska
    ><Republic of Texas invades and enslave mexico then all central America up to Columbia
    >Both states merges into a big Union type superstate
    >It's called CANABIA
    >Dude weed lmao 420

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Sic Semper blaze it homosexual.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >America collapses
    HOW. Unless Democrats kept getting elected after LBJ I can't see any other way besides Yellowstone or a asteroid causing America to collapse.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >bungled civil rights act
      >more brutal loss in vietnam, something like a successful Dunkirk kills 20k Americans in Saigon
      >dotcom boom never happens, silicon valley never takes off
      >isolationist anti-NATO rhetoric after the embarassment of the 1970s
      >incompetent FBI lets right and left wing radicals run wild

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Use your imagination, personally I was operating on the idea that bizarro phyics made Russian communism a viable system.

      The point is that the US crumbles due to internal issues, half of its allies flip to the soviets or go neutral, and the rest are in just as dire a state as it is.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They could just upgrade M60s into M60A3 TTS or better.
    That's practically what the Russians did with their T-72s because they couldn't cope with the cost of T-80s.
    But I wonder what the Bradley program would have ended up into.
    I would also guess that F-16s and F-15s would have ended up with shitteir ECMs and electronics. Also, no F-22s.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bradley stays and ends up like the bmp

      >No F-22s
      No, a dozen F-22s, all of which have lots of gremlins and qc issues.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >F-22 ends up like T-14s
        Cursed timeline

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it could be worse. The F-22 could end up like the SU-47 Berkut.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            or worse

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I was more inspired by the SU-57, but the T-14 is much the same.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A much smaller carrier fleet for one, a much reduced America isn't going to have the need or the money to maintain that sort of global force projection. Enterprise is the pride and joy of the Atlantic Fleet and still in service
    (while running even more ragged than the IRL Ghettoprise) until returning to port under its own power against the non-existent Texan Navy.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Puerto Rico is Chechnya
    They revolt successfully at first before slaughtering kindergarteners and getting hammered

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