lol why do you homosexuals always cite Vietnam and Afghan as some monumental losses for the US? They were fricking occupations not wars, occupations are never won you stupid frick. The US won practically every battle in Afghan and most in Vietnam.
This, x39 has a tiny bit more case capacity but the cartridges are functionally identical. If anything they should start making aks in .300 blk. Speaking of I kinda see but still don't really see why to use .300 blk. I'm assuming it'd have the same mediocre wounding as 7.62x39 and for a hefty markup over .223.
>I'm assuming it'd have the same mediocre wounding as 7.62x39 and for a hefty markup over .223.
What? If you compare apples to apples bullet designs then 7.62x39 outperforms 5.56 by a notable margin at closer ranges(about 150yds and in). The whole 7.62x39 has bad wounding thing is just a misconception from people comparing non fragmenting ball 7.62 with fragmenting 5.56 ball wounds. 5.56 performs just as poorly if not worse when it fails to fragment. Similarly if you compare expanding or fragmenting 7.62x39 to 5.56 the former creates larger wounds. The story is the same with .300 BLK. While velocity is a big deal frontal area and mass matter a lot when it comes to wounding as well.
Theres small enough case volume that you can't actually do anything with 300 blackout despite having endless bullet options
moron. Compare 110gr tac-tx wounds from game to comparable BB expanding 5.56 loads and get back to me on that.
>As popular now as 117 years ago if not moreso >Perfectly meets the threshold of tolerable recoil >Ballistically effective past 1000 yards >Effective on game without destroying too much meat >Not a barrel burner >Not a wallet burner >All components for reloading are readily available >Insane amount of reloading data available >Is the NIJ standard for level iv plates >Is the cartridge everyone compares everything else to >Is available in every gun configuration imaginable >Is the most aesthetic cartridge
It is truly the perfect cartridge.
Based and ought-six pilled. Took my first deer, moose and bear with it.
Because the people that make them take shortcuts. >use an ar15 action, but just take more material away from the bolt to fit the cartridge >use cheap heavy barrels instead of thinner stress relieved barrels >use the same lower as an AR15, meaning you have a straight section in the magazine despite having such aggressive case taper >very often just use the same gas tube length as what comes off the shelf from an AR15.
>short COL for reduced size and weight
Also >thicker rim
If weight was so important why don’t you have a normal sized rim? Or not over-gas the frick out of your rifles so it doesn’t strip off rims? If the taper helps so much with extraction why do case heads sheer off?
until you have to carry it maybe, or have to buy/make rounds that are more accurate than minute-of-barn since most 50 BMG ammo is designed for machineguns and not precision shooting.
Then why is the US getting replacing 5.56? It's objectively a weaker round and nobody uses it across mountains and forests.
.300 Blackout is objectively better in every way except a very (very) slight edge to AK boolet in energy.
This, x39 has a tiny bit more case capacity but the cartridges are functionally identical. If anything they should start making aks in .300 blk. Speaking of I kinda see but still don't really see why to use .300 blk. I'm assuming it'd have the same mediocre wounding as 7.62x39 and for a hefty markup over .223.
300 BLK is good for suppression, but it's a weak round.
>As popular now as 117 years ago if not moreso >Perfectly meets the threshold of tolerable recoil >Ballistically effective past 1000 yards >Effective on game without destroying too much meat >Not a barrel burner >Not a wallet burner >All components for reloading are readily available >Insane amount of reloading data available >Is the NIJ standard for level iv plates >Is the cartridge everyone compares everything else to >Is available in every gun configuration imaginable >Is the most aesthetic cartridge
Kurtz' muzzle energy made it look like it was underpowered compaired to more successful intermediate cartrages. Was there any short barrel 7.92x33 mm kurtz cartrage guns like a pdw?
>As popular now as 117 years ago if not moreso >Perfectly meets the threshold of tolerable recoil >Ballistically effective past 1000 yards >Effective on game without destroying too much meat >Not a barrel burner >Not a wallet burner >All components for reloading are readily available >Insane amount of reloading data available >Is the NIJ standard for level iv plates >Is the cartridge everyone compares everything else to >Is available in every gun configuration imaginable >Is the most aesthetic cartridge
>AGGRESSIVE CASE TAPER (1.34 DEG): More than double that of 5.56mm, and nearly
quadruple that of 7.62×51mm, 7.62x39's aggressive taper eases extraction in all conditions, and allows higher extraction velocity, giving the action
more authority for ejection.
Brainlet here, wouldn’t an aggressive taper that protrudes slightly further into the barrel have the opposite effect?
Amen brother
Agreed. Engaging in combat beyond 200 meters is cowardly anyway.
>Engaging in combat beyond 200 meters is cowardly anyway.
That’s odd… belleau wood is laughing. I wonder akkk-
Bullet drop starts at 300m, at that range 5.56 doesn't even kill. I'd rather have to adjust my sights than have my round not kill at all.
if thus isn't bait, this is the most noguns post 've seen today.
Worst cartridge ever devised.
AK-47 is one of the reasons commies lost, most ineffective mass combat gun ever.
Why did USA lose Vietnam then.
Akshuaually "every Vietnamese with AK-47" is Hollywood image.
cause the sks doesn't use x39 ?
>Akshuaually
>something's missing here
lol why do you homosexuals always cite Vietnam and Afghan as some monumental losses for the US? They were fricking occupations not wars, occupations are never won you stupid frick. The US won practically every battle in Afghan and most in Vietnam.
>not 7.62x51mm
Yeah no.
.300 Blackout is objectively better in every way except a very (very) slight edge to AK boolet in energy.
except that it is barely more reliable than 5.56 for all of the reasons the infographic shows.
This, x39 has a tiny bit more case capacity but the cartridges are functionally identical. If anything they should start making aks in .300 blk. Speaking of I kinda see but still don't really see why to use .300 blk. I'm assuming it'd have the same mediocre wounding as 7.62x39 and for a hefty markup over .223.
>I'm assuming it'd have the same mediocre wounding as 7.62x39 and for a hefty markup over .223.
What? If you compare apples to apples bullet designs then 7.62x39 outperforms 5.56 by a notable margin at closer ranges(about 150yds and in). The whole 7.62x39 has bad wounding thing is just a misconception from people comparing non fragmenting ball 7.62 with fragmenting 5.56 ball wounds. 5.56 performs just as poorly if not worse when it fails to fragment. Similarly if you compare expanding or fragmenting 7.62x39 to 5.56 the former creates larger wounds. The story is the same with .300 BLK. While velocity is a big deal frontal area and mass matter a lot when it comes to wounding as well.
moron. Compare 110gr tac-tx wounds from game to comparable BB expanding 5.56 loads and get back to me on that.
Theres small enough case volume that you can't actually do anything with 300 blackout despite having endless bullet options
>7.62x39 is so outdated
>7.62x35 is so cutting edge
yawn
>Best cartridge ever devised
why did they switch to 5.45 then
if its so reliable then how come 7.62x39 ARs are trash?
because the AR platform was designed around .223
>never heard of the AR-10
Don't use an AR then
Based and ought-six pilled. Took my first deer, moose and bear with it.
Because the people that make them take shortcuts.
>use an ar15 action, but just take more material away from the bolt to fit the cartridge
>use cheap heavy barrels instead of thinner stress relieved barrels
>use the same lower as an AR15, meaning you have a straight section in the magazine despite having such aggressive case taper
>very often just use the same gas tube length as what comes off the shelf from an AR15.
M4 feed ramp
>short COL for reduced size and weight
Also
>thicker rim
If weight was so important why don’t you have a normal sized rim? Or not over-gas the frick out of your rifles so it doesn’t strip off rims? If the taper helps so much with extraction why do case heads sheer off?
>Your
This anon is raging at the entirety of the Eastern Block kek
No I’m making fun of the inconsistencies
You sure seem like fun alright
And you seem like an insecure Black personhomosexual
Actually the only three cartridges you need for a rifle are .300 black for SBRs, 5.56 for midlength, .308 for battle rifles.
Agreed
.300 Win Mag for long range right? Same caliber bullet after all. Please?
.50 BMG is a good compromise for anything you need beyond .308.
t. owns a 27 Nosler rifle
until you have to carry it maybe, or have to buy/make rounds that are more accurate than minute-of-barn since most 50 BMG ammo is designed for machineguns and not precision shooting.
Then why is the US getting replacing 5.56? It's objectively a weaker round and nobody uses it across mountains and forests.
300 BLK is good for suppression, but it's a weak round.
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>Inb4 some troony posts the 7.62x39 fmj pic like it means anything
>Best cartridge ever devised
You're welcome. (or maybe not)
WRONG
If I wanted rims I'd go to your mother's house
Pwned
Kurtz' muzzle energy made it look like it was underpowered compaired to more successful intermediate cartrages. Was there any short barrel 7.92x33 mm kurtz cartrage guns like a pdw?
>As popular now as 117 years ago if not moreso
>Perfectly meets the threshold of tolerable recoil
>Ballistically effective past 1000 yards
>Effective on game without destroying too much meat
>Not a barrel burner
>Not a wallet burner
>All components for reloading are readily available
>Insane amount of reloading data available
>Is the NIJ standard for level iv plates
>Is the cartridge everyone compares everything else to
>Is available in every gun configuration imaginable
>Is the most aesthetic cartridge
It is truly the perfect cartridge.
>AGGRESSIVE CASE TAPER (1.34 DEG): More than double that of 5.56mm, and nearly
quadruple that of 7.62×51mm, 7.62x39's aggressive taper eases extraction in all conditions, and allows higher extraction velocity, giving the action
more authority for ejection.
Brainlet here, wouldn’t an aggressive taper that protrudes slightly further into the barrel have the opposite effect?
and he posts a western 7.62*39mm cartridge.
good job
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There is no "best". When you learn more than you think you know, you will realize that everything is a compromise. You're welcome.
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