Planning on backpacking a good portion of the Appalachian trail this fall. Looking for something lightweight and preferably compact.
It's the AT, so I really only have to worry about black bears and people, and black bears are skittish enough in my experience that they'll probably flee at even the sound of gunfire.
Kind of leaning towards the P-10S, simply because I like CZ. My friend is telling me to just get a RIA .38spl and get it over with.
Any recommendations?
Full Disclaimer: I'm kinda a moron when it comes to pistols.
>lust-provoking image
Glock 29 in 10mm
Do you own any handguns currently?
There's a S&W .44 that changes hands between me and my pops every couple months or whenever needed, but beyond that no.
I'd usually use that for hiking and whatnot, but it's gonna become somewhat unavailable to me soon, and I figured it's about time for me to get my own handgun aways. Also, I feel like there are more optimal handguns for this specific area and activity, but again, I'm pretty moronic when it comes to handguns.
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/06/handgun-or-pistol-against-bear-attacks-104-cases-97-effective/
The boring reality is that guns are so effective that pretty much anything someone might use for defense against other people these days will be effective against any animal in North America with proper ammo choice (non expanding ammunition) and shot placement (the head, as anything other than a shot to the CNS will not reliably stop a charging animal). Humans truly are the most dangerous game. Just get whatever you want that you'd reliably be able to carry, and would want to get to the range with regularly because you enjoy shooting it rather than just a tool where practice is just another chore.
The only correct answer so far is this anons
So simply carry a lightweight Polymer pistol in 9mm. All predators, whether human or animal, will attack you via ambush. So you better have the gun easily accessible in a split second, not stuffed in your backpack somewhere. Otherwise it's almost useless.
If you have some experience with S&W revolvers already, I would recommend a K or L frame .357 with a 3 or 4 inch barrel, especially a 586+ or 686+. Those can be kind of expensive, but they are high quality and will serve you well, and 7 shots of .357 magnum is nicer than 6.
I carry a g26 in a fanny pack
put a glock in your fanny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G26
S&w shield
.22 magnum revolver
I actually think this is a decent idea. An LCR in .22 magnum will be very lightweight, pretty disposable, and reassuring enough.
how are you going to manage concealed-carrying in unfriendly states?
>a $600 gun is "pretty disposable"
wut
oh, frick that then. I thought they were closer to ~$380
>a month's worth of food
>disposable
I beg your pardon?
Coming from one myself, this hobby isn't very kind to poors. Basically anything $300 or less would be in the realm of "It'd suck to lose it, but it wouldn't be a big deal"
Of course, depending on how much disposable income you have that bar can be raised a good deal higher
>Coming from one myself, this hobby isn't very kind to poors.
Frick off moron. The cost for initial entry with guns is incredibly low vs a lot of other popular hobbies. My motorcycle cost more than my 3 most expensive guns combined, and it was a cheaper used model. Most of the people who try to turn discussion to how much they make are actually poor themselves and only own what they do because they bought it on credit.
>Frick off moron. The cost for initial entry with guns is incredibly low vs a lot of other popular hobbies.
Well yeah, compared to fricking vehicles and shit guns aren't all that much, but there are thousands of hobbies that hardly cost anything unless you get really autistic about buying things related to it. Not every hobby is locked behind a 20k paywall mongoloid
>Not every hobby is locked behind a 20k paywall mongoloid
My motorcycle set me back $3500.
Your point being? Just because there are hobbies more expensive than guns doesn't make it poor-friendly. A well rounded collection could easily be a few grand minimum, especially if you try and go for better quality shit
What is it with poor people and bragging about not being able to afford shit?
They believe it makes them look humble. In reality, it makes them look pathetic.
When did I ever brag about being poor? I said that being into guns isn't practical if you can't afford it, how the frick do any of you morons disagree with this statement?
>Being into x isn't practical if you can't afford it.
You can apply that sentiment to virtually anything. People arnt disagreeing with the sentiment itself, they're disagreeing with your moron take that guns are an expensive hobby.
>A well rounded collection could easily be a few grand minimum, especially if you try and go for better quality shit
Wut?
What aren't you comprehending here? If you have enough guns to cover most usages for them (home defense, range shooting, hunting, etc), then you'll have likely put 2-3 grand into them unless you specifically went full poorgay with your collection.
>Anon, what exactly is your definition of "poor"?
"poor" in hobbyist terms would likely be when they constantly b***h about the price of things. That's about it
>Motorcycles are quite affordable when you look past the initial buy in and consider reoccurring costs per hour of enjoyment, and that you can also use one for most basic transportation uses where cost per mile is less than a car.
Dude, I never wanted to get into a discussion about motorcycles, I have no idea why that one homosexual decided to even bring it up
Anon, what exactly is your definition of "poor"? Motorcycles are quite affordable when you look past the initial buy in and consider reoccurring costs per hour of enjoyment, and that you can also use one for most basic transportation uses where cost per mile is less than a car. Even when you include insurance/registration and maintenance costs on top of gas, yearly costs at 1k miles per year or 83 miles of cruising per month equals out to shooting about a brick of .22lr or 100 rounds of 9mm per month at current prices (assuming you have somewhere shoot for free where your only costs are ammo), and a lot of people will go through a brick of .22lr in less time than 83 miles of cruising around. The number tilt even further in favor of the motorcycle the more you ride considering fixed costs of insurance/registration.
maybe you're thinking LCP, which are 2-300 beans. certainly great for hiking, extremely small and lightweight, i usually squirrel an extra mag behind my belt in a loop or two up front. If 6+1 isn't enough to deter some banjo-twanging buttfrickers, I'm not sure what is except the OP image.
Second. I keep an LCP .22 around as a kit gun/jogging gun. Needed the Galloway kit to really be reliable but it's surprisingly accurate and stupid easy to carry 30 rds of ammo without even thinking about it
You will regret every wasted gram in less than a week. Don't bother.
I backpacked the trail pretty frequently in my youth, I know what you mean. However I would much rather have some form of protection on me, even if it weighs a bit more.
The handgun is more for other people, black bear was an afterthought.
If the place you're hiking at is such a hotbed for crime you feel you need a gun you should just stay inside.
>you don't NEED to bring a gun! What are you some kind of wuss lololol
Suck a whole bag of dicks b***h breasts.
If op wants to hike with a piece that's his prerogative, and if he feels the need to justify it with whatever reason makes him feel normal about it whatever, that's his deal.
You don’t go outside much, I can tell
kindly frick off
he doesn't need to worry about blacks and latinos in that part of the country, not hiking out in the trails or the woods anyway, they think white people like OP will kill them. also OP you don't have to justify carrying to anybody, do what you wish, but carry something you are experienced with, not some new pistol or revolver you have never or barely shot in a hot magnum caliber, that will be to your detriment.
It is very clear you live in an area where you are the top of the food chain.
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If your worry is mountain lions and black bears a Glock 20 or 357 revolver in 3 to 4 inch.
If your worry is brown bear.
a .44mag+ with in a 4 to 6 inch and bear spray
If people are your issue just bring a flame thrower.
there is never a reason to not have a gun
t. bear
If you think you need a gun to defend from fricking black bears you should just stay inside
Carry the pistol you are most comfortable carrying and most experienced with shooting. If it's a 9mm Glock of some kind, take that. Just have better than normal ammo, for example Hornady's Critical Duty +P are pretty hot and penetrate bear enough to at least dissuade them from eating you, and if one shot won't do it, do multiple. Carry extra magazines. Carry bearspray and bearbangers. Spray your clothes with Permethrin ahead of time to avoid the tick israelites.
>black bears and people
The black people are more aggressive than the bears, but luckily they don't leave urban areas much. Weight is going to be a big factor so you should be looking at an LCR.
lcrx22
Hiking not jogging moron
Something light you can have quick access to.
>polymer
>4+ inch barrel
>10mm
>SCP or hardcast projectile
>already carry a GbG so do the same - but b i g g e r.
>Appalachian trail
Something deep concealable because carry is illegal in half those gay ass states.
FN 510, Glock 20 Gen 3, Bren Ten, any decent .357 revolver
muds find reasons to carry behind every tree. Ironically that anon is planning to hike
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>Black bears
Yeah, you have to worry about that, but it ain't bears I tell ya h'wut. Take a glock 40 with the extendo and watch out for Philly and Pittsburgh basketball ball american bears, in minecraft.
Black bears will flee at you clapping your hands.
P365 with Buffalo bore Hardcast 147s. Everything else is overkill. You'll thank me after 20 miles.
how about you spend more time obsessing over shit that matters instead of what toy youre gonna bring with you
you're in the wrong part of town buddy. The pony thread is that way --->
>u cant criticize people for wanting to spend money on stupid shit!
Gatekeeping "value" by deriding firearms in a literal firearms/weapons thread. Get outta here with that shit tier bait.
name one thing that matters
I'll toss my vote in for a S&W 642
Small, light, and tough enough to run +p through continuously. Pretty stout felt-recoil though, but you can't get around that with pistols this light
Just use bear mace. It weighs nothing, costs nothing, you can easily strap it to your pack, and it works on Black folk too. But honestly if you're that scared of black bears on a basic b***h trail hike you should just stay home.