>Benelli M4

>Benelli M4
The best to ever do it. Nothing comes close.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did the military never adopt a weaponlight for it?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is "it"?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wood

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What makes it the best?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vidya and much 30 year old DOD contract

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Argo gas system. Look it up. Can't make it jam by "overloading" it with an optic plus flashlight like most other cheap semi autos. Patent ran out and turks copied it but they cheap out on their metals so the pistons bend and frick your life up entirely.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >TTI M4
    Big meme, the loading port bevel is legit though

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >heavy af
    >shitty trigger
    >still kicks like a mule
    >can’t cycle birdshot reliably

    I have one so I can say it’s overrated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      also applies to your mom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you want birdshot in a semi-auto?

      The other 3 issue are b***h complaints. Literally just work out more.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just because he can't lead for shit doesn't mean you can make fun of him. Dumping 6 bucks of ammo into a Bob white is a time honored American tradition.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Killing birds is literally all that shotguns are good for for the past ~100 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I want an M16 equivalent for modern day drone hunting where instead of 4x brownings we get 4x M4

          Call it the M-44 or some shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >
          Does the benelli m4 really strike you as a "hunting" weapon? if so, you might actually be moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he doesn't know what he is talking about, the m4 will reliably cycle birdshot after the first few dozen rounds of breaking in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >shitty trigger

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, the trigger is better than some other long arms, like the AUG, even though it's a shotgun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I own one too and mine has none of those issues. I think you just might be a colossal homosexual, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I have one so I can say it’s overrated.
      no you don't

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nogunz spotted. My M4 has a pretty good trigger, and is less picky about ammo than any other semi-auto I’ve had. Eats everything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >heavy af
      >shitty trigger
      >still kicks like a mule
      >can’t cycle birdshot reliably
      I didn't know this thread was about the SPAS-12

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have never touched an benelly m4 in your life. Shut up sit down when you pee b***h and frick you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kid why are you pretending to be mad at and yourself somehow superior to a gun that you dont actually own

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m a 40 year old man. And I do have one.

        My M2 cycles shitty Winchester white box reliably, maybe it’s just a skill issue

        I hear there is a long break in period. Still under 500 rounds. Rest of my points still stand.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My M2 cycles shitty Winchester white box reliably, maybe it’s just a skill issue

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beretta 1301 or even A300.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really like mine. I look forward to shooting it for the rest of my life.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    *dies reloading a slow ass tube magazine*

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. nobody in recorded history

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Has happened a shit ton of times with cops who didn’t have moon clips/speed strips for their service revolvers. This shotgun is even slower to reload than a revolver. And don’t tell me it’s not a valid comparison

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm moronic and wrong, but please don't point it out
          after 8 shots of 12ga you have influenced a gunfight significantly more than 6 shots of 38 special. you are a fricking moron for trying to cope that shit out, you no shooting gaylord.
          >No really I'm right!
          Ok, name 5 cops that died reloading shotguns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Getting into the habit of top up loading on the fly and between encounters and using shotgun cards over saddle loaders that you can rip and replace can mitigate a lot of the issue that comes with running a shotgun as a primary but I'd agree it's not ideal over a mag-fed weapon. Losing count of how many rounds you've fired in the heat of the moment is very common. There's a skill level to a tube fed shotgun that takes a lot of practice under duress because even the best can fumble a reload and that's a fumble that can cost you dearly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      skill issue

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my dick comes close you where you got birthed from.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >dipshit noguns says 12ga and 38 special are the same
    >gets roasted for being a fricking moron
    >poorgay recoilet seethe starts
    we get it, you are a recoilet that can't handle 12ga and this is you lashing out at the sour grapes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I never said 12 gauge and 38 were the same lol keep digging that hole, aggro npc

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I never said 12 gauge and 38 were the same

        Has happened a shit ton of times with cops who didn’t have moon clips/speed strips for their service revolvers. This shotgun is even slower to reload than a revolver. And don’t tell me it’s not a valid comparison

        >Has happened a shit ton of times with cops
        they are either the same and the analogy works, or they are different and you are the dumb noguns Black person that cant name any of the shitton of cops that died reloading their shotguns.
        because it didn't happen, because gunfights don't last into the double-digit 12ga shell expenditure levels.
        so shut the frick up you stupid Black person.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You just lack reading comprehension, my ESL friend. I meant they were killed trying to reload individual cartridges in their revolvers. But you knew that. I suggest blood pressure medication. Your level of anger is unhealthy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ok, what are the names of all the cops that died reloading their shotguns? because they have the same crippling disability of revolvers there should be piles of them.
            or your analogy is completely unfounded, since your hypothetical doesn't exist.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your autism is causing you to fixate on an irrelevant part of my argument. Cops have been killed trying to reload. Use google, ESLgay. I think Paul Harrell also has a video about how police tactics changed from one guy getting aced trying to reload behind his car

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I think Paul Harrell also has a video about how police tactics changed from one guy getting aced trying to reload behind his car
                wrong again. the perps were iced with fricking revolvers you dipshit. do you know anything at all? the guy with the shotgun scored a hit and survived (despite being wounded). of three agents with magazine fed handguns (one of which reloaded) two died, one survived. the agents with revolvers all survived, two of them reloaded their revolvers during the firefight.
                again, your hypothesis is shattered by your own example, because you are a dipshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, my point still stands. Slow ass reload times get you killed. Thanks for playing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >only autoloader gays die in the gunfight
                >slow reloads get you killed
                this is your brain on common core.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Also I was referring to Newhall, not the Miami shootout

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >only autoloader gays die in the gunfight
                >slow reloads get you killed
                this is your brain on common core.

                >Pence was still trying to reload his revolver and failed to see Twinning's approach. As Pence inserted the sixth cartridge and started to close the cylinder of his weapon, Twinning shot and killed him from behind, with two shots to the head at point blank range. Kness took cover in a nearby ditch.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >please ignore the counter example, that doesn't count
                I suggest you buy a gun, and jump off a bridge.
                do a flip

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your example provided literally nothing of value to this argument. Continue falling back on “noguns”

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What is this comment in reference to? I want to read/watch whatever it is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Miami shootout analysis

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >because gunfights don't last into the double-digit 12ga shell expenditure levels
          Meanwhile, in North Hollywood...

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What does the M4 do better than the M3?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Shows up in more media and get used by crayon munchers

      https://i.imgur.com/1nx8c9c.png

      >Benelli M4
      The best to ever do it. Nothing comes close.

      >no pump action
      Make way for bestnelli

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    John Wick used it so it's good.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The best to ever do it. Nothing comes close.
    You seem to have accidentally posted the wrong picture. The shotgun was already solved 100 years earlier.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing comes close.
    so true
    Here's mine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >flagging kot
      anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he flagged himself, he knows the weapon's safety rules and still decided to go sit there

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          damn he lives on the wild side

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that hk buttstock so much it's unreal.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing comes close.
    3 comes before 4

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That looks like an M1 or M2

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It is. I'm just moronic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/tL86QVJ.jpeg

      I'm tied between the M4 and the M3. M4 felt a lot better to handle and balanced alright, but I like the versatility of the M3 for poorgay ammo choices. Either way, Italian tactical scatter gats are top.

      https://i.imgur.com/LSSWmci.jpeg

      It is. I'm just moronic

      >I'm tied between the M4 and the M3
      Same, M4 has a huge after market compared to the M3 tho

      go with the M4
      The M3 is absolute kino, but you CANNOT go wrong with choosing the M4, since mine cycles even the cheapest of birdshot

      Leon picked M3 tho. You do want Leon's gun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This game is pure /k/ino
        All the guns are satisfying as absolute frick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          I find it annoying that Leon autistically press checks his pistol every time he jumps out of a window (which is pretty often), but that's more funny than anything.
          P kino game, hardcore is giving me actual challenge but not too much, Ashley kinda mid tho

          I honestly didn't like the shift to an action game, I preferred re2 remake where you had limited ammo and had to make your shots count and consider which zombies to kill and which to just shove away.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            RE4make plays exactly like RE4. It's not a sequel to RE2make, it's a remake of RE4, and it does it extremely well.
            Unpopular opinion; RE4 is the best RE game and RE5 is the second best.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Unpopular opinion, RE4 poisoned the franchise and the whole genre of survival horror. Great game but the actual horror elements of the first 3 were lost until 7 and a lot of other survival horror games tried to ape 4 instead of 1-3

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They ruined the genre
                >By making a game more people wanted to play
                You people need to stop saying this.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say it ruined it, just that it killed off a lot of creativity in the space for a while making the series and the games around it more generic. Much like what COD did to FPS games, fine shooter series but it's success gave rise to so many generic 7th gen military shooters (and Assault Horizon)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What you're describing has nothing to do with creativity, anon. It's called "living in the real world, with real bills".
                Yeah, it's all well and good you want there to be more "sovl" in games or whatever the frick, but what that means in practice is fewer games and fewer people who buy games.
                A game establishes a niche, and your million dollar idea is to milk that niche until it's completely fricking dead, instead of trying to create new niches.
                You would rather Capcom burn the franchise to the ground by releasing the same game seventeen times because "muh sovl" while ignoring the fact that the only reason these games still get made is because they changed up the fricking formula.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                drastically changing something so more people like it is unironically bad. Would you like if pizza didn't have real cheese and animal products just to cater to vegans and mudslims?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my hobby has been normie-ized
                >oh ehm gee, it's about inclusion, not maintaining what is great about stuff
                I'm with the first group.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The old style Resi games have a million clones though, the PS2's library was absolutely saturated with RE clones. That horse had already been completely beaten to death by the time 3 came out, and Resi was in major need of a facelift.
                4, 5 and 6 were all the action movie Resi games, and when that formula got tired, they switched to a more classic horror style.
                So what you want is for Resi to be beholden to nineties era game design tropes for eternity, making the same fricking game over and over again, to sell to the same, slowly aging population.

                TL;DR old style Resi fans are boomers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This game is pure /k/ino
        All the guns are satisfying as absolute frick.

        I find it annoying that Leon autistically press checks his pistol every time he jumps out of a window (which is pretty often), but that's more funny than anything.
        P kino game, hardcore is giving me actual challenge but not too much, Ashley kinda mid tho

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Am I a bad gun owner if I don't own and never intend to own a shotgun?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not really necessary unless you’re hunting birds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't like fun

      Literally just buy this, no shotgun is worth $2000.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        go ahead and cope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >But guys!!!! You gotta pay for the REAL one!!!!

          You're a dumb wiener smoking homosexual, tell your mom to shave her pussy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You should take your own advice homosexual. I wish you a merry barrel rupture from your turkroach gun

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >barrel rupture from your turkroach gun
              Yeah this doesn't happen unless there is an obstruction but keep making shit up

              It happens

              http://youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic

              Lol frick Hunter Thompson that drug addict piece of shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Go back to wherever you crawled out from homosexualron, Hunter S Thompson is /k/ incarnate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Go back to wherever you crawled out from homosexualron, Hunter S Thompson is /k/ incarnate.
                You'll grow up someday and realize owning guns doesn't automatically make someone cool, in Hunter's case he was a massive dick head

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        we get it, you neither shoot your guns nor can you delay gratification.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm tied between the M4 and the M3. M4 felt a lot better to handle and balanced alright, but I like the versatility of the M3 for poorgay ammo choices. Either way, Italian tactical scatter gats are top.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm tied between the M4 and the M3
      Same, M4 has a huge after market compared to the M3 tho

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      go with the M4
      The M3 is absolute kino, but you CANNOT go wrong with choosing the M4, since mine cycles even the cheapest of birdshot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do as I did, get one of the better M4 clones for a fraction of the price, get a benelli extractor and mod to your hearts content, then go buy the M3 outright - hell it's basically only as much as a 1301 now you can't lose.
      The M3 was so fricking worth it I bought a supernova just to cannibalize the collapsy boi stock and it's actually lighter than the M4

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >polymer recoil-operated 12ga
    >comes with a neutered civilian magazine tube
    >$3,000 + tip
    yeah

    nah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      1. not polymer
      2. not recoil operated
      3. does not necessarily come with the 5 rounder, there's 7 rounders at my LGS right now
      4. not 3000 dollars

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >recoil-operated 12ga
      you're moronic because this is false
      >comes with a neutered civilian magazine tube
      you're moronic because you can get it with a 7 round tube from the factory
      >3,000 + tip
      you're moronic because I got mine new for $1800 last year

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why does it cost $1800

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because it's better than any shotgun that costs $1799 and below
          hope this helps!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because it's not made by roaches

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            iirc a few years ago Benelli did outsource part of their manufacturing to Turkey, no idea if the M4 line is affected however

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They never outsorced anything. They simply bought out stoeger. 100% of all benelli shotguns parts are made in italy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/benelli-m4-le-7-rd-12-gauge-18-5-shotgun-collapsible-stock/

      >Only polymer is stock and grips.
      >7 round factories are available, most are bought out cause its the popular option.
      >Costs $1800, but you can get $200 off if you got any First Responder/Security License

      Have your (You) dumb Black person.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >First Responder
        What's considered a first responder?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.kygunco.com/page/qualified-professional-policies

          You can go on Buds and bullshit it most of the time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wow you've never even touched one and you came here to post about it.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inertia gang reporting

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t have a shotgun or a lever action. I’m debating about a Benelli m1014 or a Marlin 1895, don’t have enough for both…help

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like Marlins but if I could only have one levergun it wouldn't be a side-ejector and it certainly wouldn't be chambered in a big Black person cartridge like .45-70

      that's just me though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      get a mav88 for like $250 see if you like shotguns, youd probably still have enough to afford the Marlin 1895 too.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you can get clones made in turkey, cheap. just as good sir

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Emperor Arms SR5 got tons of solid reviews and apparently was on sale for like $100+ under a half year ago. Pissed I missed it cause now its out of stock everywhere

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a challenger appears

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Benelli M4
    M4000€ in my country god fricking darnit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      which country?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Leon's poster here. Wasn't trying to launch some harsh debate between patrician shotgun enjoyers. Btw, is this Leon with a 870 Wingmaster ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the starting Village shotgun in RE4 a Remington? Not sure about the RE2 Remake one. Since it changes when you get the barrel and stock upgrade.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like a magnum since wingmasters have a polished chrome bolt assembly

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The M2 is just as good at literally everything fight me.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am addicted to buying cheap one shot folding shotguns and Maverick 88s. I will wear my stinky $10 surplus webbing with a Kabar single mark on my hip and shoot dirty mismatched shot shells all day and no one can stop me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Heavily based. Mentally unstable even.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why not both?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          praying for you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This man is to be feared and respected.

      I have a a300 tacticool and Mossberg 500. I like them both. Shotguns fun.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cookie cutter gunsoomers want the M4 because of GWOT
    I want the M3 because there's more parts I can fidget with while sitting at home

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the 1301 is an entire pound lighter and does the same shit. shotguns are an accessory weapon and should not weigh as much as a rifle.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the wml homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its on my rifle, because shotguns aren't a primary weapon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >tactical shotgun
          >no light
          Why'd you bother putting an expensive optic on it if it isn't a "primary weapon"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because i do what i want and i don't let jpegs tell me what to do. the 1301 looks ugly with optics mounts and having a light jutting out of the side ruins the sleek profile of the gun. I also cant imagine ever using this at night or in a building because reloading a shotgun under stress is MUCH harder than reloading a rifle, at a 7+1 shot semi-auto shotgun is way more likely to require a reload than 30rd rifle.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >with optics mounts

              with light mounts*

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I also cant imagine ever using this at night or in a building because reloading a shotgun under stress is MUCH harder than reloading a rifle, at a 7+1 shot semi-auto shotgun is way more likely to require a reload than 30rd rifle.
              You will never use your gun at night or in a building, and if you did you wouldn't need to reload either one of them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mine wont cycle slugs reliably 🙁

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when were we supposed to care about shotguns?
    i must have missed it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      theres nothing wrong with shotguns but there is a very annoying crowd of people who think they can compete with semi auto rifles. they will usually say dumb shit like 'uhhhh technically i shoot 9 projectiles per shot which is more dps than an AR!'

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >there is a very annoying crowd of people who think they can compete with semi auto rifles
        That's because they absolutely can compete with semi-auto rifles for actual real-life civilian defensive purposes. Some people frame their arguments around real-world use and some people frame their arguments around moronic specops larp, and the resulting shitfignt is pure autism

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >larp

          >I also cant imagine ever using this at night or in a building because reloading a shotgun under stress is MUCH harder than reloading a rifle, at a 7+1 shot semi-auto shotgun is way more likely to require a reload than 30rd rifle.
          You will never use your gun at night or in a building, and if you did you wouldn't need to reload either one of them.

          >you will never

          funny how these arguments always come from the mouths of shotgun users. do you also make threads talking about how shotguns are great for anti-drone purposes?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is a larp. You aren't using your PSA AR for infantry purposes. Saying that a shotgun can't compete with a semi-auto rifle, as a civilian, is like saying that a minivan can't compete with your sports car when all you do is drive it back and forth to work on public roads.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >when all you do is drive it back and forth to work on public roads.

              its good to know that our lives are so predetermined.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i agree
        shotguns are good but they should be either the only gun you own or the third or fourth one
        they could never replace an ar or really any rifle

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah if you can only have one gun or if you're mega broke and a need a do-it-all gun then a 300 dollar pump shotgun cant be beat

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            300 dollars new
            my most second most recent purchase was a shotgun and i paid somewhere between 120 and 170 but i was too drunk to remember. turns out it was an 870 i had actually used before as a bear gun. this stuff gets real cheap second hand
            i can’t imagine how cheap a maverick 88 gets when you buy it off a friend

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        These people are deranged, especially whenever there's a shotgun general and you have people claiming they can hit targets 70 yards away with buckshot
        There is no competition, there is just different uses as these two operate better in different environments with some overlap

        >there is a very annoying crowd of people who think they can compete with semi auto rifles
        That's because they absolutely can compete with semi-auto rifles for actual real-life civilian defensive purposes. Some people frame their arguments around real-world use and some people frame their arguments around moronic specops larp, and the resulting shitfignt is pure autism

        They're both effective in close quarters scenarios like home defense but you do have people claiming they can engage assailants at 100yds equally with a shotgun. Yes slugs are a thing, but you're crippled on ammo cap and penetration vs a rifle

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >These people are deranged, especially whenever there's a shotgun general and you have people claiming they can hit targets 70 yards away with buckshot

          130yds, no choke actually.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Deranged

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Why don’t you try it yourself? Or do you not shoot?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Deranged and unhinged
                I could easily also take potshots with a rifle and put some hits on a target with better penetration and energy btw
                don't believe me then you don't shoot

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but you don’t have a rifle in this scenario, you have a shotgun, you’re just going to stand there while somebody shoots at you? THAT’S deranged and unhinged.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah I'd find cover dummy
                Not sure what you're arguing anymore since my original point was that rifles do certain things better than shotguns. This is cope for not owning a rifle but I won't hate on you for that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is no cover, you’re in an open field bird hunting, so you just stand there and get shot?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >literally making up stories to validate only owning a shotgun
                I do not care cletus

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Finally, you admit you’re wrong.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                lol absolutely not you unhinged moron.

                i’m the guy

                responded to
                [...]
                [...]
                my point wasn’t that shorguns have no use, it is that it doesn’t matter what shotgun you are using

                for self defense people tend to make things way too complicated. it really doesn’t matter what you get shot by

                before you show youtube videos of crackheads tanking 45, consider the balance of caliber vs fire rate. you can generally cause the same amount of damage irrelevant of caliber because you might hit someone with a 12ga slug and then a second one but in that time you could probably pop 4-6 9mm into the torso. 12ga doesn’t matter which gun because no matter how much money you spend recoil will put you so off target the limiting factor is your aiming, hence why only sport shooters need semi shotguns

                i don't agree with any of this and your assertions are all over the place. A semi-automatic would increase lethality by fire rate and reliability by removing user error in cycling.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't agree with any of this
                Why keep posting if you're just going to be wrong

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >you do have people claiming they can engage assailants at 100yds equally with a shotgun
          That's moronic, but it's even dumber to be talking about engaging assailants at 100yds at all. That's what I'm talking about with the larp shit, people buying and defending their choice of gun based on an infantry use case. Nobody engages assailants at 100yds, and if you did you'd get fricked in the ass by the courts, because you can't argue self defense if you're shooting people at that range

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but it's even dumber to be talking about engaging assailants at 100yds at all.

            oh look the shotgun user is imposing even more strict requirements. soon he will start quoting FBI statistics despite being comically skeptical of government statistics.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >oh look the shotgun user is imposing even more strict requirements
              Haha funny shitposting and everything, but don't shoot at anybody at moronic ranges like that unless you actively want to spend your life in prison

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Returning fire is returning fire, you shoot back with what you have on hand, not just standing there doing nothing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black person who the frick is engaging you with a rifle at 100 yards

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to prepare for this one in a million situation, not that one in a million-point-2 situation!

                you probably don't even have carbon monoxide detectors

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes as a matter of fact I do. And I don't care what situation you want to prepare for, what's moronic is shitting on other people for not choosing their gear based on your fantasy
                > Kek stupid shotgun user will be fricked when he starts taking long-range fire from enemy manoeuvre elements
                Like gimme a goddamn break, you live in the suburbs and work at a desk

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It happens

                http://youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nah my gun is for shooting villains. why would i go to prison for that?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you're doing a direct comparison and talking about the shotgun and rifle competing then it's fair, all this legality shit is besides the point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i’m the guy

      responded to

      These people are deranged, especially whenever there's a shotgun general and you have people claiming they can hit targets 70 yards away with buckshot
      There is no competition, there is just different uses as these two operate better in different environments with some overlap

      [...]
      They're both effective in close quarters scenarios like home defense but you do have people claiming they can engage assailants at 100yds equally with a shotgun. Yes slugs are a thing, but you're crippled on ammo cap and penetration vs a rifle

      >there is a very annoying crowd of people who think they can compete with semi auto rifles
      That's because they absolutely can compete with semi-auto rifles for actual real-life civilian defensive purposes. Some people frame their arguments around real-world use and some people frame their arguments around moronic specops larp, and the resulting shitfignt is pure autism

      my point wasn’t that shorguns have no use, it is that it doesn’t matter what shotgun you are using

      for self defense people tend to make things way too complicated. it really doesn’t matter what you get shot by

      before you show youtube videos of crackheads tanking 45, consider the balance of caliber vs fire rate. you can generally cause the same amount of damage irrelevant of caliber because you might hit someone with a 12ga slug and then a second one but in that time you could probably pop 4-6 9mm into the torso. 12ga doesn’t matter which gun because no matter how much money you spend recoil will put you so off target the limiting factor is your aiming, hence why only sport shooters need semi shotguns

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure I get what you're saying
        Firing rate in a shotgun is negligible due to the number of projectiles per shot. 00 buck is the typical defensive load, not slugs. That's 8 pellets of 9mm size pellets in one shot vs 8 trigger pulls in a handgun. A semi auto shotgun would increase the rate and win by pure number of projectiles at the same rate as a handgun.
        Recoil happens with handguns too and it's more pronounced due to only two points of contact. It's a absolutely easier to stay on target with a shotgun, even a semiauto

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ok

    shotgun use cases
    >sport
    skeet shooting is very fun, have at it
    >self defense
    just like any other gun, if you have a gun and shoot someone you win. you have to hit the guy at close range, so it is just like any other long gun in that respect
    >animal/bear self defense
    good for that because you can spend a third the money to shoot black magic magnums vs a 45/70
    >fun
    shitload of fun when they cost 200$ and you can have 3k ftlbs muzzle energy and explode anything you shoot at

    shortcomings
    >long range
    good luck, you basically cant do it even with rifling
    >prepper type stuff
    if you are getting into combat the other guy has an ar and you are at a disadvantage
    >capacity
    12ga ammo is is impossibly big to carry unless you really need it and 20ga is not popular. you also aren’t going to have 20-30 round mags like like in most popular rifles
    >penetration
    not good to be in a situation where you need this, but it is nice to have

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I generally agree with this, but I think it makes the shotgun a great choice for civilian use. Civilian guns need to be fun because they’re primarily hobby pieces. They need to be very effective at close range because that’s where defensive shootings occur. While range, ammo capacity, and volume of fire are highly relevant to infantry combat, that is a team sport and trying to adapt your equipment to that rubric is the equivalent of practicing football by yourself to prepare for a tennis match. ARs can do the job to be sure, but the advantages they have over a shotgun aren’t relevant to most people here whether they want to accept it or not.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is what I was trying to say, but you put it much better than I did

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For every job, a tool.
    Shotgun is good at many jobs but master of none in my opinion. (unless you count absolutely destroying something at 50 yards or less a job)

    That being said, I choose it for me "middle of fricking nowhere" ranch gun, I never regret having one aside from having to lug the fricker around all day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's no guns in the world more satisfying to shoot than a shotgun. This is an indisputable fact. Only handguns come close.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is he /ourguy/?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Of course.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tfw european, full magazine, collapsible stock and israelites didn't steal tip of my barrel 20"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the 20" might be a requirement of your country as they come off the line like pic rel with a 18 inch barrel in italy.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >cuck tube
    >bigass logo on the side
    ruined

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not a cuck tube, that's just the two-piece tube

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gas is better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is gas you moron. Anons really don't know shit about shotguns

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the only gas im into is the kind that comes out of my wifes ass if u get what im saying haha

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >M4 is gas operated not innertia like 1-3
        >still ass at load variety unlike berettas, mossbergs and even the inbred morons in russia at baikal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hitler frick off

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do what? Rob fools of their money for no perceived benefit? I agree completely anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm more of a 1301 guy myself, but sometimes having the highest end stuff is just satisfying in itself

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s not even the best shotgun. baka

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I hate the TL Racker so much it's unreal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rusts

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hol up let him cook
        This might be an untouched old production

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pre-cerebus era is before 2006 or 2008?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            2007

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            07 but I feel Remington production was turning to trash around 06 anyway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      man look at that 12 dollar HUNTLIFE sling

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you even shotgun if you don't have a Slingster on your beater 870?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think my M1s90 SBS is bellisima, I’ll always be an 870bro first.

      >rusts

      Jokes on you Police Magnums are parkerized. Mine are 1988 and 2005.

      I hate the TL Racker so much it's unreal

      Surefire chads BDE.

      The M1 super 90 with its inertia bolt will always remain superior.
      And as far as gas operated shotguns go, the Baikal MP153 is king.
      The M4's only selling point is that it's in use in the military.

      It’s my first semi but it gives me more than a semi.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Italians can't make shotguns for shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you're an amerimutt

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The M1 super 90 with its inertia bolt will always remain superior.
    And as far as gas operated shotguns go, the Baikal MP153 is king.
    The M4's only selling point is that it's in use in the military.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Debating parting with my Saiga 12 for one of these

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >impossibly based, I bet you even wear patrick bateman grippy socks
    I've never worn that brand before, are they expensive?

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1301 Tactical Mod 2 or an A300 ultima patrol are objectively superior, and don't need a tube extension.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on the mossberg 940 pro tactical?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Was about to ask. It looks nice. I love mossbergs. And it's only about $1000.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It’s the SilencerCo Salvo 12

    Scalable from 6” to 12” in length

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      does it work well? is there some sort of adapter for the choke system?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It works really well. I had to send my barrel in to a guy to get threaded. I think I’m using the SilencerCo choke for the mossberg on it

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I keep thinking about picking one of these things up, but I already have a police trade in 870 magnum.

    But the M4 is cool.

    But that's another $2k that could be going towards NODs

    But...

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just picked up my turknelli M4 clone and the fit and finish is incredible, no tool marks, action is smooth, and it makes Benelli gays seethe. I'll post pictures if this thread is still up tomorrow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is that the one that gets the bent piston rods?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No it's the one that makes your mom cum but only when I'm around.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          is that what you spent all your money on so you couldn't afford a Benelli?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your mom's clit is huge btw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait until it breaks!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Can't wait until it breaks
        Lol it has a warranty stupid, keep seething

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >thinking turkshit warranties count for anything

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          boy are you in for a surprise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The turkshit shotgun test is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing.
      To save a few bucks more for a real shotgun is an easy, convenient task and one which we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do.
      To save up money for a functioning shotgun is objectively right.
      There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which a person is not able to save up for something better.
      Simultaneously, it is not illegal to abandon your pride and buy a turkish gun. Therefore the turkish shotgun presents itself as the apex example of whether a person will do what is right without being forced to do it.
      No one will punish you for not buying a better and functioning shotgun, no one will fine you or kill you for buying such a waste of chinesium. (beside your bleeding hand after it will explode)
      You must save up for something better out of the goodness of your own heart. You must save up just a few bucks more because it is the right thing to do. Because it is correct.
      A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with a law and the force that stands behind it.
      The turkshit shotgun is what determines whether a person is a good or bad member of society.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. Still, I don't know if this apply to Winchester SXPs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          old winchesters sxp are fine. new ones made in turkey had some issues so I'd avoid them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You mean 1200s and 1300s ? I believe all SXPs are turks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice copypasta. But seriously not spending $2k on a shotgun IDC if it comes with a set of Taylor Swift breasts. I have a Mossberg 590 that I KNOW is the ultimate based scattergun that won't fail me and passed military tests, that btw the homosexual-ass Remshit 870 didn't.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mine sucked dick and couldn't cycle shit all. All the other M-series guns serve(d) me better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's OK if it's shit, I'll just go without my gun while I send it back to a company that probably won't exist in a few years and hopefully they'll send one back that isn't dogshit
      are you the moron that used to make threads about the 15 dollar Amazon red dots? because that blibbering imbecile had the same theory.
      I'll buy something from a company that gives out products that don't break and that I could rely on to actually fix something if it did.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick are you blabbering on about? I've shot a M2 in competition for longer than you've been around you disingenuous shit, I tried a M4 for the hell of it and it didn't work well, so I went back to what I know what works. I'm AGAINST the shilling of the M4 you dunce, stop putting words in my mouth. I swear to Christ people have zero reading comprehension skills nowadays.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          what if you used your brain for once instead of screeching into the void? that reply is to the wrong post.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So you’re saying I should buy a m4?

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Beretta blink system cycles faster and more reliably so no. It's sadly been outclassed. That pig fat boat looking shotgun will never look half as cool as a benelli though no matter how much money you throw at it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's sadly been outclassed
      I don't know about that. I'm a 1301 owner (I've only ever shot somebody else's M4) but I wouldn't be surprised if the M4 was more robust and able to handle more extreme conditions. That plastic mag tube/gas system shroud on the 1301 doesn't give me a ton of confidence that it would do well in the cold, or under extended heavy use. Beretta markets it as a law enforcement/home defence grade shotgun. I don't think it's intended to hold up to the same abuse an M4 is.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why sight radius so smol
      I have handguns with more precision

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a shotgun moron.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like pump though. I wish I could get a 1:1 repro of the Winchester 12....THAT is the best!

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am a man of my word.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like diarrhea, it’s like they were trying to warn you but you missed the signs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Benelli offers the same color you dork.

        Damn that looks so bad, but props to you for actually buying a gun. I hope it functions properly and doesn’t break because it’s turkshit

        Supposedly these clones work up to 500 rounds then fail. I'm going to run 100 rounds of 1400 fps slugs and 100 rounds of 1350 buckshot to break it in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn that looks so bad, but props to you for actually buying a gun. I hope it functions properly and doesn’t break because it’s turkshit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks cool man!

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why buy this when you could get several shotguns for the same price?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because nobody shooting a great gun ever thought "I wish I had several worse guns instead"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wish I could shoot 7 guns at once

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a good modern semi-auto that can take a Bayonet? The closest I've gotten to it is a 1301 where I use a APG Universal Bayonet Mount with a GG&G Quick Detach Sling and Flashlight Mount, but while that at least lets me mount a bayonet, it's a very flimsy solution that wouldn't survive any long term use.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good to see that your serial numbers match.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >when your gun has a break period instead of a break-in period

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you so funny you so funny

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the rage face really sells it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Incidentally, why did we call them rage faces?
          What the frick is wrong with us?

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should I buy a maverick 88 or an a300 ultima patrol, I realize theyre totally different but I just want a shotgun

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a300 is the better gun of those two

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A300 is fun to shoot, the semiautomatic action cuts recoil down a lot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't already have a shotgun, I would get the 88. Not everybody enjoys shotguns. It'll be easier to sell a lightly used 200 dollar shotgun for 150 than it'll be to sell an 800 dollar shotgun for 700.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gay thread. Shotguns are universally obsolete

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just like your genitalia.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Penisbros… it’s over

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm gay for you, anon-kun~

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah but the SPAS-12 is cooler since you can fire it double barrel

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kys

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