Here's a video showing what went down at Hostomel Airport on the day of the invasion. I didn't realize the Russians lost so many helicopters that day. It was as much as a clusterfrick as the rest of their invasion it appears.
Battle of Hostomel Airport
I heard about a 90 minute feature film going over the first days of the battle. Anyone got info on it? It had a generic name.
Maybe: at the edge of the abyss: battle of Mariupol
Thankfully, relatively few prisoners were taken. As far as Russians go these were their better breed, so them not surviving to work/reproduce is the ideal outcome.
Culling every competent person every other generation is basically their superpower
What an insanely israeli thing to say
israelite detected
>losing your country’s entire airborne/sof forces in the first 72hrs
>to a bunch of cops
lol, lmao even
And people say police militarization is always bad
frick off glow Black person
your country’s entire airborne/sof forces
I didn't realize the entire Russian VDV was a single battalion.
Very strange, considering the VDV are currently fighting in Svatovo, Kremina, Bakhmut. Very odd for a force that doesn't exist.
I didn't realize the entire Fallschirmjäger was a single division.
Very strange, considering the Fallschirmjäger are currently fighting in Russia and Italy. Very odd for a force that doesn't exist.
Breathtaking mental moronation.
So tell us how the entire VDV has only 300 men.
Breathtaking mental moronation.
So tell us how the entire Fallschirmjäger only has 6,000 men.
>if i just close my eyes hard enough it didn't happen
ok anon.
Again, I ask, where are the corpses of 300 deceased VDV who allegedly were destroyed at the airport.
Were they destroyed or not? Did they just magically slip away?
Or perhaps the Ukrainians never took back the airport until April 1st.
Your photo is undated, shows no VDV casualties, and could be well after April 1st.
You've basically got nothing.
Don't know what creature I hate more: genuine Vatniks or a /k/oping trannie.
Are you actually incapable of using google?
>trannie
Oh lol nevermind
>Are you actually incapable of using google?
Why don't you show us a single shred of evidence?
Protip: you don't have any.
Very weak cop-out, and constructing a strawman because you have no evidence that Ukraine re-took Hostomel airport on Feb-25.
Picture from April with no dead Russians. Congrats, you just proved vatniks' claims.
>No dead VDV
>Posts pictures from April
So the Vatniks won the argument?
>argument
This isn't an argument anon, it's you desperately trying to cope. Again, this won't bring the VDV back and it won't give you a white trad wife to beat/rape.
You know we can tell you all started posting at the same time and come from the same place, yes? It's literally two or three of you. Enjoy your 3 day vacations.
So you admit okraina is full of shit then.
>okraina
Historical negationism. I can't wait until we frick up China next.
>blah blah blach, I have nothing
Yikes.
Imagine strengthening Vatnik propaganda with your performance here.
You should be banned for putting on a performance so embarrassing, you made the fricking Vatnigs look good.
Hohol false narratives are so tiresome.
Cops and militia. Literally "scraping the barrel" tier forces.
Reminder: the VDV won and successfully took the airport
>Reminder: the VDV won
Can’t wait to hear the interviews from the survivors.
Oh, wait…
lmao
You do realize plenty of the initial assault force survived and were relieved when Russian reinforcements arrived
They took the airport at too significant a cost for it to be used meaningfully. The blame still lies with the generals who drew up and ordered the attack though. They should have realized it was never going to work
> and were relieved when Russian reinforcements arrived
Lol how many weeks later?
There's actually pictures of a big column of armour on the airfield itself which is even funnier really since it's not the VDV being hopelessly outgunned like the British at Arnhem waiting for relief, they actually linked up then get BTFO as soon as they tried to break out
Do Russians unironically believe this? Is this something their media told them early into the war?
It’s so obviously untrue to anyone who was watching at the time, I don’t know why it seems to be held so sincerely by vatniks. It seems like something they actually believe instead of the usually lies they know are lies
>It’s so obviously untrue to anyone who was watching at the time
Anybody who was watching saw the Ukrainians get pushed off the airport and towards Kiev in the first 24 hours.
We also saw Ukraine claiming they took back the airport, while CNN was filming Russian troops around it.
>blatant historical revisionism
This shit has taught me how serious doubts of the holocaust occurring in the first place could happen.
>/k/oping
Everyone ignore this guy he's a well known troll, he's been shitting up this board switching between IPs and eating rangebans since around June last year. He is literally the only person who uses this term.
Truth is what
says, he's also trying to bait us to get banned by posting the few photos of dead VDV at the airport that exist.
Remember homosexual, no matter how hard you shill it won't bring the VDV back.
>blatant historical revisionism
Taking Ukrainian claims as historical fact is, yes.
lmfao
Why is there no footage of Ukrainian forces inside the airport on Feb 25-26?
Possibly 0 cams on the survivors and I wouldn't fault the defenders for not turning on their go-pros while they were being shat on by dozens of metal birds and surrounded by paratroopers afterwards.
You've also got to remember two things.
>1
Not every infantryman is going to have a go-pro
>2
Even if they do, a shit ton of footage doesn't make it to the web, be it because the guy who recorded the footage died later or simply because of OPsec reasons.
After all, we had to wait a few days to get any decent VDV footage that wasn't snippets.
I'm not talking even about body cams. There should be a body of photo evidence from smartphones and other devices when the Ukrainians ALLEGEDLY took back the airport (before they lost it again).
They were never shy of posting Russian losses, so why would they conceal images of 300 ELITE VDV.
Protip: they never secured the airport and the Russian mech forces linked up with VDV.
>proofs?
Ebry tiem
>VDV take airport
>Fighting ensues
>Pushed back
>Partial mech brigade links up (need it or keep it?!)
>Queue footage of a shit ton of VDV transport vehicles on the runways
>Fighting ensues
>Bombed to shit again
>Queue video of the burned wrecks on the runway
Any questions?
Oh, you want gore.
Good luck finding any, be it ukranian or russian. By the way, those corpses you don't want to look at?
They are damage control. An attempt to get a hold on the town after the airport went down.
There are literally no pictures from the airport before April. And you know why.
No.
Why would there be?
The Russian footage was released later too.
>Feb 25
That's when the Armour linked up with the VDV.
Also, your side has as much evidence of its claims as the ukranian side.
>>Feb 25
I meant to say Feb-24.
I don't have a side. I'm trying to work out the truth of the matter.
And from all of the evidence I've gathered, I conclude that Ukraine never really took the airport back on the evening of Feb-24th as they claimed, and the Russian mechanized forces linked up with paratroopers inside Hostomel airport itself, as can be seen from the column of BMDs staging near a hangar.
I can only guess those BMDs travelled by road from Belarus as the airstrips were littered with fuel tankers and buses Ukrainians hauled out to prevent any IL-76 landings.
>Feb 24
You mean the literal day that the Ukranians got pushed back because of the suprise attack?
You do realise the battle lasted days, right?
>I'm for the truth
Ha, sure you are.
And I have a soul.
If you were right, would this change the fact the engagement was an operational and strategic failure?
For anyone following along they started pushing this line like a month after February 24th in an attempt to make the VDV look good. It turned out to be obviously fake as both the VDV and the reinforcement forces were slaughtered and strewn out across the entire airfield (these vatniks will claim that doesn't count because it wasn't the 'original VDV'), the VDV lost most of its transport aircraft both in this action and in the month or so afterward, and since that time the VDV hasn't conducted a single major offensive action anywhere. They were last seen doing an admittedly decent fighting withdrawal around Kherson, with piecemeal units, platoon sized at most, being thrown into various reinforcing actions over the front. News and leaks over the last year have revealed that the VDV has basically ceased to exist as a professional force since it lost so many contract soldiers and had a stream of untrained mobiks put into it.
The VDV has suffered the exact same fate as the Fallschirmjäger. It exists, but it's basically just slightly more elite infantry now. It no longer exists as an airborne force.
But of course none of us want to explain that TO THE VATNIKS so we just call them homosexuals and laugh at them. Please join in lmao.
No, some of us have been trying to counter the false narratives from day one. All you had to do was not blindly believe Ukrainian claims and you could see what went on.
AAaahahah, what’s next, Russians are the saviors of the white race?
Your diversionary tactics are weak Mykola. Truth doesn't care what lies you say.
There were two waves. Both were beaten
PROOFS?!
>false narratives
You're not a historical researcher, you're a vatnik desperately trying to recover whatever reputation you can for the VDV. The initial force was driven into the forest, the reinforcements retook the airport, the reinforcements and remnants of the initial force were later driven out of Hostomel.
That's what happened.
Get over it.
They already are anon you're at least 6 months too late. It went from show of good will to actually planned and not a feint to "we fulfilled our objectives"
The initial force took the airport, fought off the attack (CNN) until the next day when reinforcements arrived. On the morning of the third day, there were already Chechens filmed at the airport.
Correct.
Pretty embarrassing that okraina claimed to have taken the airport by then.
kek, they were just posing for a photo shoot, you think they look legit in any capacity?
Ah you’re back
>The initial force was driven into the forest, the reinforcements retook the airport, the reinforcements and remnants of the initial force were later driven out of Hostomel.
Correct.
The troll is trying to mud the issue and mix the order of events. The VDV was massacred between the initial attempt to seize and hold the airport and their breakout to Irpin.
The forces that held the airport until late March weren't VDV, and they also took their dead and wounded in their retreat.
>The initial force was driven into the forest, the reinforcements retook the airport, the reinforcements and remnants of the initial force were later driven out of Hostomel.
Nobody believes this.
Even the Ukrainain-POV video contradicts your moronic fan-fiction.
The video says Russians were back in control by Feb-25.
At 20:07 the narrator admits:
>"On February 25th however, Ukrainains are forced to retreat from Hostomel airport, under pressure from several BTGs
You're just a fricking troll. I get it.
How many times are you going to reply to the same post? At least make it less obvious by not posting smug pictures
>Still no evidence.
So the conclusion is that Ukraine lied about taking the airport back on Feb-24, and admit loosing the airport on Feb-25th.
I'm being sincere here anon, have you gone to a neurologist and gotten checked for brain damage? The type of distorted thinking you're exhibiting is characteristic of brain damage.
Here's the point in the thread where the shills pretend to be several people at once.
Yeah, except tons of valid sources from the media and Ukrainian government/military have stated that that is exactly what happened. I know your entire argument hinges on a /misc/-tier denial of any non-Russian media but the rest of us don't suffer from that delusion.
The VDV isn't coming back anon. Get over it.
>valid sources
How about testimony from a guy who was there? Who admits they were unable to dislodge the Russians.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/t8fpem/battle_at_hostomel_airport_as_told_by_lt/
Da cumrag Russian narrative is real true true and Ukraine is liars
>For anyone following along they started pushing this line like a month after February 24th in an attempt to make the VDV look good.
You're making the Ukrainians look bad. Objective truth is what matters and it appears the Ukrainians and their fanboys lied about re-taking the airport (even if it was for only a day now as the video suggests). There is no photo or video evidence of destroyed VDV forces inside the airport, and not a single photo of Ukrainians inside the airport between Feb-24 and April 1st.
>It turned out to be obviously fake as both the VDV and the reinforcement forces were slaughtered and strewn out across the entire airfield
May we see at least one dead VDV from Feb-24?
>the VDV lost most of its transport aircraft
Total nonsense which even the video in OP debunks (they lost 3-4 attack helis) and like 2 transporters.
>in the month or so afterward
What other airborne operations did the VDV perform airborne assaults?
>and since that time the VDV hasn't conducted a single major offensive action anywhere
Strange, considering the VDV are the primary force holding the line successfully between Svatovo-Kremina and Kupyansk.
Whatever it is that you're trying to do here. YOU"RE VERY FRICKING BAD AT IT, and if you're shilling on behalf of some government or agency, I would like to speak with your supervisor.
Imagine reading or even typing this nonsense is this satire?
>I've been defeated, NOOO, time for some deflection!
Just admit you failed to prove that Ukraine took back the airport before April 1st.
You love penis
>Whatever it is that you're trying to do here. YOU"RE VERY FRICKING BAD AT IT, and if you're shilling on behalf of some government or agency, I would like to speak with your supervisor.
Oh hey dude, I remember you. How's it been?
No, that's not what happened.
I know anon. I know some day I'm going to have a daughter in high school and she's going to come home and tell me about one of her classmates regurgitating this shit and I'm going to remember this conversation.
Denialists are the most cancerous types of human beings on this planet.
I bet you think the moon landing is fake and vaccines cause autism
The day Putin gets hanged from a rope will be a glorious day.
I was waiting for this. Pack it up folks. This whole argument is staged.
Yes you have been shitting the thread up with a false narrative, why are you talking in third person? You also didn’t answer my question
have a nice day
>There is no photo or video evidence of destroyed VDV forces inside the airport
While you keep posting lies, I'll keep posting this article:
https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
These morons already slipped up and said that they admit RUSSIAN AIRBORNE FIGHTING VEHICLES seen IN FRICKING HOSTOMEL AIRPORT don't count AS THEY APPARENTLY AREN'T FROM RUSSIAN AIRBORNE UNITS.
At this point it's just about laughing at them.
That's an Ukrainian AN-225.
are we just going to ignore the BMP-3...
Yes
Photos from April don't count, you idiot. That much should have been obvious.
>the destroyed Russian airborne vehicles used exclusively by Russian airborne units don't count
OK anon.
If the subject is the supposed counterattack on the first day, then no. Idiot.
>Posts ANOTHER image from April
I've had enough of you illiterate fricking morons.
Ok then please leave, you’ve done nothing but repeat yourself if you’re expecting anything but the same replies your either moronic or trolling
So you admit Ukraine NEVER took the airport back on Feb-24th because you have no evidence to prove otherwise?
No I’m calling you a moron
I wonder where you think all those VDV went? Since the supply column never reached Hostomel they are either still holding the airport or hiked back to Belorus on foot. Which one is it? How long until you claim they were never there?
>There is no photo or video evidence of destroyed VDV forces inside the airport, and not a single photo of Ukrainians inside the airport between Feb-24 and April 1st.
Back and forth.
We've seen this and have footage of this happening on multiple other fronts.
Taking back could mean as much as securing a foothold on a building that was previously occupied.
To claim that the ukranians didn't push back the initial wave (two waves btw, excluding the mechs) is as moronic as claming that the VDV lost all their men the moment they landed on the airstrip.
>May we see
May we see a dead ukranian from hostomel?
>bullshit
Anon, even if 2 out of 10 got shot down, you're looking at a 20% casualty rate.
>VDV tirade
Anon, they are gone.
It's time to let go.
>We've seen this and have footage of this happening on multiple other fronts.
Except we haven't seen any footage of VDV defeated at Hostomel airport on Feb-24, and in fact not a single Ukrainian soldier set foot at the airport until April 1st, when the Russians withdrew and declared their "it was a prank bro" feint.
Congratulations, you're losing this argument badly, and very visibly.
I havent seen any footage of Kursk blowing up underwater and then Putin deciding to leave them to their fates banging on the hatch with a hammer until their oxygen ran out, but I know it happened
you are a fricking moron and there is no purpose to you on this earth, you should die, your parents must be so ashamed of you, when they are not too busy sucking wieners to feed you
trolling on this forum is for the ultimate bottom feeders, you should go to bakhmut and at least die for some reason
Right, so you have no evidence and therefore we have to conclude that Ukraine never re-took Hostomel on Feb-24.
Gotcha.
We have no footage of them taking it either, I demand dead Ukrainians anon
Thread theme:
>Footage
That's the whole point. There isn't any.
Neither to support your claims or deny the others.
>withdrew
I like the term "pushed out".
They didn't do it out of their own volition.
VatBlack person cope is always so ethereal
>Oh, you want gore.
Nope.
Just a single shred of photo or video evidence that would support the idea that Ukraine forces re-took the airport on Feb-25.
So far you were only able to post well known images from April after the general Russian retreat.
Why is there no Russian footage from inside the airport right now? Kek
>the VDV won and successfully took the airport
winning was holding it long enough for follow-on forces to air land
Yes, those elite airborne sure successfully distracted local national guard for a a whole entire day before being wiped out. What a win.
The VDV won at Hostomel the same way the Allies won at Gallipoli since they managed to physically land on the beach and didn't instantly get deleted off of it.
Except the Gallipoli campaign lasted for years and Russia retreated from Hostomel after a month.
It lasted less than one year, and thats the point. The Entente lost at Gallipoli and the Russians lost at Hostomel
we could have fricking done it if the Royal Navy hadn't cucked out, my boys got done dirty by the British on that one
VDV goal was to arrest/kill Zelensky and they utterly failed. Takin airport was not goal but stepping stone to that goal.
>won
No.
>successfully took the airport
And couldn't use it to do what the Russians were aiming for: use it as an airstrip to send in more units by air to aid in the push on Kiev/Kyiv. It just served to be target practice for Ukrainian artillery and TB-2s before the reality set in and, after holding it even after it was a strategic failure, left.
>No.
It was one of the more successful VDV operations in recent history.
The only time the VDV were more successful is when they captured the Novaya Khakhovka dam in an airborne raid.
But no one really knows about that.
Ok
>It was one of the more successful VDV operations in recent history.
>everyone died
>successful
I suppose by Russian standards this is a success, so, sure, why not.
Nooooo they didn’t diiiiieeeeee you HATO TRAnNIIIIEEE
still waiting for the image of the dead 300 vdvnerds.
>you didn't see dead VDV on the ground because they weren't there!
lol, your vranyo bullshit doesn't work with real westerners, vatBlack person
Try explaining to one of them that even without physical evidence of dead VDV (which they'd just claim is fake anyway), it's possible to piece it together through other sources. It'll blow their minds.
repeating Ukrainian lies isn't a good tactic anon.
The only liar here is you pretending that the VDV wasn't decimated during 3 days until they were relieved, and finished later between Bucha and Irpin.
The burned BMD coffins along all those places do not lie.
See
So which is it? the operation was a failure or did they get decimated like
says?
The two are not incompatible. I like how you try to deflect though. Just say it, the VDV failed in their mission to take and hold the airport till reinforcements could be flown in. They failed.
They didn't fail at taking the airport though. the failure had nothing to do with VDV or the forces that were sent there later it was because the landing field was just destroyed from the fighting. trying to equate failure due to material destruction and a fighting force being obliterated is disingenuous. L
>They didn't fail to take an undefended airport and only melted away when fighting started.
Amazing.
>melted away when the fighting happened
You again are confusing Hostomel and the airport. It's just tiresome arguing with morons.
I'm not confusing shit, I'm pointing out the mental tricks you're trying to fool us with.
who's us?
>Reminder: The US won the wars in iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam. They successfully took the countries.
honestly it's the same logic
>still waiting for the image of the dead 300 vdvnerds.
I accept your tacit acknowledgement that the VDV failed their mission to secure the airport for reinforcements. I accept your surrender.
pretty obvious that I acknowledge the whole operation was a failure, you are just too braindead to realize it. I also don't know who is the guy who first replied to you. pretty obvious that it's a troll copypasting an older reply in the thread. sadly your too low iq failed to realize it.
>There should be 300 VDV corpses.
>May we see them?
>And pls don't post this:
It was NEVER going to work. In fact, VDV getting slaughtered so fast saved them from an even bigger disaster. If they managed to actually ship in reinforcements, those would have been killed as well ok a bigger scale. If they managed to get their huge column into Kyiv it would have burned the same way they did in Irpin. They went all in on the moronic idea that there will be no resistance. Look at the early BBC footage from Hostomel, they were acting like it was an exercise, even though the fact that tv crews were waiting for them there should have given them an idea that everyone knows where they are and what they want to do. It is an insane blunder, probably one of the worst since dropping paras into the cauldron at Dien Bien Phu, but at least the Frogs knew it was a one way trip. #
>because that's an ambush in an entirely different part of the city on a different day.
>in this post anon violently contests the existence of combat engineers or runway repair
>while desperately avoiding the topic of what exactly prevented the airport from being used (hint: the hundreds of russian fighting vehicles strewn over it)
>They didn't fail at taking the airport
True.
>They failed at holding the airport so reinforcements could land, thus rendering the entire exercise pointless and their deaths meaningless.
Also true.
>trying to equate failure due to material destruction and a fighting force being obliterated is disingenuous
The operation failed because just about every single vatnik was successfully cleansed. 🙂 just like when wagner got murdered to the last man in Syria. russians will continue to be hunted and cleansed until you are either driven to the Siberian tundra or wiped from the world entirely, preferably the latter.
How every single one was cleansed, when Ukraine only retook the airport after Russians retreated from it on 1st of April?
>Wagner in Syria
Yeah man shit happens, Wagner got airstriked by USA while chasing ISISBlack folk. who would've known that USA was directly helping ISIS!! I personally wouldn't claim this as a victory If I were you though..
>So who the frick cares
I do. Recording objective truth is important.
>Learn to deal with it like an adult instead of throwing an autistic juvenile tantrum next time.
It's a fact that Ukraine never re-took the airport until April 1st, when a flood of images was released of destroyed equipment, further evidence that Ukraine quickly floods the web with photos of damaged gear and Russian dead as soon as they can.
nice schizoposting, israeliteshill.
Say, why are there no pictures of Russian casualties from Hostomel airport if, as claimed, the Ukrainians destroyed the VDV detachment and re-took the airport by the evening....
nice damage control falseflagging as a Russian.
repeating Ukrainian lies isn't a good tactic anon.
You are failing to make me disinterested in this thread after shitting on NAFOturds.
>ad hominem
Do you have anything to respond to his words?
I'll repeat his question: if Gostomel was a massacre, why is there literally zero footage of gore, or at least destroyed vehicles (no, the old soviet AN-225 airplane doesn't count)?
>why is there literally zero footage of gore
They took their dead and wounded when they left, also see
>at least destroyed vehicles
See
Making up shit to confuse the issue would not resurrect all those dead VDV at the airport and elsewhere, cumrade
>They took their dead and wounded when they left
Claiming that there are no proofs because [reason X] doesn't change the fact that the proofs are required.
For example, I can claim that I had sex with your mother, and then say that there are no proofs, as no sane person would post footage of themselves having sex on the internet.
Also, if the VDV had enough men alive to evacuate all woundead/dead, it only means that their casualties were not nearely close to the levels that the Ukrainian side claims. That is, if there were any casualties to speak about.
>see >>
Ah, yes, we have trees and houses in airports now.
>>No.
It was one of the more successful VDV operations in recent history.
The only time the VDV were more successful is when they captured the Novaya Khakhovka dam in an airborne raid.
But no one really knows about that.
>more disingenous vatkBlack personhomosexualry
There's also no footage of dead russians from Bucha despite all the destroyed tanks and vehicles there. I guess they also weren't killed?
Who you are trying to fool with this shit?
No one I literally come to this board to troll people
This is unironic classic vatnik cope.
>da but proofs?
You are the exact "person" this board has been mocking for the last 14 months.
>If you don't believe stuff that somebody from the internet just made up- you're a vatnik
Didn't know that having critical thinking means being a vatnik.
No.
It was one of the more successful VDV operations in recent history.
The only time the VDV were more successful is when they captured the Novaya Khakhovka dam in an airborne raid.
But no one really knows about that.
>cheap "irony" instead of actual counter-arguments
I repeat:
>If you don't believe stuff that somebody from the internet just made up- you're a vatnik
>Didn't know that having critical thinking means being a vatnik.
They didn't fail at taking the airport though. the failure had nothing to do with VDV or the forces that were sent there later it was because the landing field was just destroyed from the fighting. trying to equate failure due to material destruction and a fighting force being obliterated is disingenuous. L
>vatnik shill trying to pass as an autistic military nerd concerned about accuracy
>keeps making up shit that the ukrainians never really said
>ignores all the evidence posted in the thread
>satellite and on the ground ukrianian photos from 28 March 2022 showing the wreckage the russians left
Russia delenda est
>I've been defeated, NOOO, time for some deflection!
Just admit you failed to prove that Ukraine took back the airport before April 1st.
No matter how much you try to blow the corpses of dead VDV it won't change the fact that the initial force was pushed out of the airport. Seriously. This type of gaslighting and thinly veiled threatening only works if you have power over the person you're doing it to. I know you're wrong and you can't do shit about it.
>Reminder: The US won the wars in iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam. They successfully took the countries.
honestly it's the same logic
can you shut the frick up you keep typing the same moronic shit over and over again and at first it was kinda entertaining but now it's just becoming pathetic
>/k/oper makes wild claims without any source
>/k/per is asked for source
>/k/oper goes on an intense rant about muh vatniks, instead of actually geaving source
And no, an "animated video" is not a source/evidence.
I can literally make an animated video of me fricking your mom, but it won't be real proof. It never was.
It's really simple.
No evidence, unsupportable claims: rejected.
And it's logical too, because Ukraine lost the airport the very next day, and then lost the entire town of Hostomel by March-5th, as per the video.
Are you confused? Do you need a pillow for your head?
Cheap irony is not an argument. Yes, Russia lost Gostomel. But no, there are zero proofs that it was a bloodbath, and that Ukraine recaptured it by the date it claims it did.
Cheap irony is not an argument. Yes, Russia lost Gostomel. But no, there are zero proofs that it was a bloodbath, and that Ukraine recaptured it by the date it claims it did.
>there are zero proofs that it was a bloodbath
Liar:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/destination-disaster-russias-failure-at.html
>that Ukraine recaptured it by the date it claims it did.
Liar, Ukraine never claimed to have liberated the airport before your cumrades left by March 27
are you moronic? fantasy story told by ukrainian soldier is shitty evidence. VDV bodies would be great evidence, but none were shown, nor will be.
>Literally did not happen.
The video literally says the Ukrainians lost the airport on Feb-25th.
Juvenile autist.
Go play DOTA you worthless child
>not even a single photo of all those dead vdv
>BUT IT HAPPENED
ok, zoomer.
>I'm not talking even about body cams. There should be a body of photo evidence from smartphones and other devices when the Ukrainians ALLEGEDLY took back the airport (before they lost it again).
>They were never shy of posting Russian losses, so why would they conceal images of 300 ELITE VDV.
You were cleansed from hostomel, snake island, and the entire north of Ukraine in a mere few months. Then the world watched and laughed as you were slaughtered and routed from Kharkov. Hundreds of your children and able bodied men are cleansed daily and to my delight their deaths are filmed and distributed to social media for me to enjoy 🙂 meanwhile you cope about the first defeat in a long line of military and human failure that continues to this day. It’s honestly sad that this disaster is the closest thing russia has to a win so far.
>you were
stopped reading because i'm not russian. kek
Literally did not happen.
The video literally says the Ukrainians lost the airport on Feb-25th.
>Juvenile autist.
Go play DOTA you worthless child.
>initial confusing reports about an ongoing situation
>post says the opposite of the capture
More vatBlack person disinfo trying to save face about their defeat
>the operation was a failure or did they get decimated
Both, of course.
>Both, of course.
now post the proof that they got decimated. I'm sure there are like ten photographs of dead vdv before the withdrawal on 1st of april.
>blyat the ~100 destroyed Russian airborne vehicles at the airport don't count blyat blyat blyat escaped without any casualties blyat blyat blyat
Sure.
>burned BMDs all over the place
>first hand accounts of soldiers there, including https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStvtOgp4ow
>hundreds of obituaries in russian social media
>airport evacuated by russians taking their wounded and dead with them
>current images of VDV troops look nothing at all like the original soldiers
>VDV was fine, cumrade!
Fricking disingenous c**t.
>They didn't fail at taking the airport though. the failure had nothing to do with VDV or the forces that were sent there later it was because the landing field was just destroyed from the fighting. trying to equate failure due to material destruction and a fighting force being obliterated is disingenuous. L
Airports don't get "just destroyed" you actual dumb frick. A core part of the work of a combat engineer is repairing and operating airfields after seizure. If you knew fricking anything you'd know just how hard it is to put a runway like the one at Hostomel airport (which, btw, handled LITERALLY THE AN-225) out of commission.
No matter how much you try to blow the corpses of dead VDV it won't change the fact that the initial force was pushed out of the airport. Seriously. This type of gaslighting and thinly veiled threatening only works if you have power over the person you're doing it to. I know you're wrong and you can't do shit about it.
If you actually have proof (hint: you don't) go to a western scholar and explain this to them. You're not going to because you don't have proof and are an unstable piece of shit.
>we're already at the point where the vatnik goes schizo and tries to pretend to be 15 people at once while posting gore
>I've been defeated, NOOO, time for some deflection!
Just admit you failed to prove that Ukraine took back the airport before April 1st.
Eagerly awaiting your thread complaining that the israeli moderators banned you.
You don't have to keep insisting you lost the argument mate. It's fine, everyone can see.
I'm not talking even about body cams. There should be a body of photo evidence from smartphones and other devices when the Ukrainians ALLEGEDLY took back the airport (before they lost it again).
They were never shy of posting Russian losses, so why would they conceal images of 300 ELITE VDV.
They got surrounded and slaughtered
>ukraine propaganda bad
>russia propaganda good
an hero
>one of the more successful vdv operations
>gaining ground and not being able to use it is successful
>and continuing to hold it despite having no real use for it as well as being a giant target
>"successful"
It didn't contribute anything. Might as well have just dropped them anywhere the frick else in Kiev/Kyiv.
> It was one of the more successful VDV operations in recent history.
Imagine telling on yourself like that
What the frick is this? Have people on this board forgotten how sarcasm works?
Ok
Reminder: The US won the wars in iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam. They successfully took the countries.
>the surgery was successful but the patient is dead
Cool video, some footage I had seen before but didn't know was from Hostomel and some stuff I hadn't seen. I didn't know they lost that many helicopters either, that's a lot of roasted ziggers.
>How can a man go forward with the airborne without support?!?!
>WHERE ARE THE RIOT POLICE YOU PROMISED ME??
exceptional taste
Lmaoooo
>they will always, always, always be overwhelmed without immediate and constant resupply
No shit
>which the vatnik generals should have known would not be possible
The difference in war is knowing what is and is not possible
SAMs aren't as omniscient or omnipotent as Russians claim they are. Anyway, at this point the Ukrainian IADS was under heavy attack and offline
>losing that many of your "premiere" attack helicopters during the assault
did they pawn off their RWS for vodka money or something?
God damn, can you image what I would be like if they by some miracle managed to land troops and then advance into Kiev itself?
It would be like Grozny on steroids, except Kiev is like twice the size and almost ten times the population of Grozny.
Just take the ambushed group of BMDs from near Hostomel, and multiply it by 20.
It was NEVER going to work. In fact, VDV getting slaughtered so fast saved them from an even bigger disaster. If they managed to actually ship in reinforcements, those would have been killed as well ok a bigger scale. If they managed to get their huge column into Kyiv it would have burned the same way they did in Irpin. They went all in on the moronic idea that there will be no resistance. Look at the early BBC footage from Hostomel, they were acting like it was an exercise, even though the fact that tv crews were waiting for them there should have given them an idea that everyone knows where they are and what they want to do. It is an insane blunder, probably one of the worst since dropping paras into the cauldron at Dien Bien Phu, but at least the Frogs knew it was a one way trip.
>they were acting like it was an exercise
nah to be fair the initial vdv were fairly professional. they probably had a sense that it was 2014 all over again and shooting/moving on a western reporter is a bad look if you want to peacefully take over ukraine. even the israelis/palestinians try not to attack foreign press.
Like they had their secret riot cops that specialize in putting down civil unrest on the vanguard of the invasion force. They were definitely expecting more civilian resistance than military.
Which is honestly just so nuts. Like a combination of dictator trap and yes men only giving good news and years of western counterintelligence actively feeding Russians good news to frick with them.
Pic related is not from the airport.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT PICTURE IS FROM A TOWN A FEW HUNDRED FEET AWAY A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER IT DOESN'T COUNT
You are some stupid fricking Black folk.
Yes that’s the point
You are a stupid fricking Black person.
No I meant he was trying to be as moronic as possible kek
You are still a stupid fricking Black person for writing an ambiguous comment like that.
Ok
>the two opening missiles of the war hit:
>1: Nothing at all
>2: A residential building
This is the kind of quality military strategy and high precision weapons Russia is capable of. What a waste of an opening salvo.
What was the point of those missiles? It ruined the suprise effect.
Larping as a major military force
>You kill lots of sand
>sand very evil
nice cartoon b***hboy
Hostomel is one of the few instances where I feel inclined to give the VDVatniks a break, hostomel is a textbook example of top brass assuming paratroopers/airborne infantry are some kind of invulnerable wunderwaffe that you can drop into a hot zone and expect EZ wins. The reality is, if you drop a few hundred guys onto an airport dozens of miles behind the front line in the middle of contested airspace, they might stand a good chance of initially taking the airfield but they will always, always, always be overwhelmed without immediate and constant resupply which the vatnik generals should have known would not be possible. The british paratrooper commanders know this, the french para commanders know it, and the american airborne infantry commanders know it, but some fricking how the russian military has yet to figure that shit out yet. As it happens, this is exactly how the fight played out: the VDV, being one of the more marginally competent units of the russian army successfuly took the airfield at first, and then were immediately glassed by artillery, surrounded by fricking militias, and wiped out in a day or two without any resupply or effective air support. Fricking disgraceful to drop boys into the shit like that, even ignoring the supreme moronation that starting this whole war was in the first place. The russians continue to serve as a masterclass in what NEVER to do in warfare, to the benefit of everybody but themselves.
It's been pretty much the story of the whole war. The VDV aren't bad troops, far from it. They are well respected by Ukrainian forces and can be quite capable. They did well in Kherson (the russians were forced out by constant pressure and supply issues, the Ukrainians had alot of trouble actually taking territory until then) and held on up north after the Kharkiv front stabilised. The main issue is dogshit leadership who treats them as super soldiers. I gave the example of them doing well in Kherson, but having your elite troops act as regular line infantry to hold the line is a different kind of moronic. Their reputation has been destroyed but it's not really the men on the grounds fault. Given the same orders and support, western paras wouldn't do much better.
>The VDV aren't bad troops, far from it
I think you mean they *weren't* bad troops, because now they've taken so many casualties that they're about as elite as the american national guard
I think Russia genuinely did not think Ukraine would fight back, or at least would be slow to do so, and that they would be able to hold the airport with minimal resistance and quickly fly enough troops in Kiev to take physical control of the remaining government officials and buildings, to prevent organizing a respons. A lot of their opening moves make sense if you assume zelensky is going to flee to Paris and UAF will largely disintegrate.
Makes sense to a Russian maybe. Invading another country with the mindset that "just fly to the capital and hope they don't shoot back" will never not be moronic.
How are Russian missiles so innacurate?
They use GLONASS and GLONASS just sucks. It's less accurate than GPS by a significant margin.
Their intel is probably just shit too.
This vatnik technique of taking events that we all witnessed and followed as they were happening, and just lying and insisting they happened another way, is fricking infuriating.
It's not for your benefit. The russians have a word, "Vranyo", which refers to the act of lying to someone in such a way that the person knows you are lying to them, cannot do anything about it, and the liar is fully aware that this is the case. Truth is not a virtue to the russian rulers: instead, it is just another thing to manipulate and pervert in order to keep your subordinates in total submission; the russian government lies to its' own people in such insane, ludicrous ways purely to remind the russian people that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. This has always been at the core of the russian mode of operation, especially during communism, and the whole "ministry of truth" thing in 1984 is the perfect analogy and critique of it.
>cannot do anything about it
Thankfully this tactic only works against those already self relegating into servitude and generally falls flat on its face against more intelligent (read: higher than a vatnik's IQ, which is not difficult) resistance.
On the contrary anon, it's designed to kill two birds with one stone. The propaganda-brained morons see the ridiculous lies the government tell them and simply accept them as fact because they do not know better; and the smart russians, the ones who might be prone to dissent and risk upsetting the status quo, are effectively humiliated and buck-broken by the government indirectly telling them "we are going to lie to you and there's nothing you can do about it", which to even smart russian psyches is enough to force submission or at the very least misery which leads to inaction. The only truly intelligent (Or lucky) russians are the ones who simply leave the country and escape the reach of their government permanently.
Pretty much what happened. The ones who tried standing up to Putin before left the country after Z-day. They knew conscription was the next. One dude probably would have been blown up by HIMARs like the rest of the guys from his area if he hadn't.
>The russians have a word, "Vranyo", which refers to the act of lying to someone in such a way that the person knows you are lying to them, cannot do anything about it, and the liar is fully aware that this is the case.
That is about as fricked up as the Japanese having a special word for working yourself to death. Jesus H. frick.
>losing two Ka-52s 15 minutes after crossing the border
Not only that but each was full of "elite" Cuckniks. Imagine being the Vee Dee Veeh loser that trains all of his life doing backward knife throwing acrobatics just to die before even landing lmaoooo!!!
>that trains all of his life
I doubt they even had much training. Units like 82nd, 101st, 173rd, SOF are all required to jump once a month to maintain their jump status and pay.
Most will practice airfield seizure at least a couple times a year, much more in 75ths case.
I doubt any of the VDV had jumped since basic, and less than that had done any sort of realistic FTX since then either, remember how sad their budget was to begin with.
Paper bear.
>2 rockets miss their targets within the first 60s of the video
It didnt dawn on me until just now Russia was hampered by no night flying capabilities. They attacked at 0930 hrs, well after normal reveille, and the flight path indicates they had to navigate by visual landmarks (hydro power plant) even though that was clearly a dangerous approach. If the whole night fighting revolution of the 90s hadn't passed them by, they would've had a much easier time taking the airport as the defenders would all have still been asleep in barracks, and the air bridge might have worked.
Why weren't they all shot down as soon as they crossed the border? Helos should be easy targets for all kinds of SAMs
>AN-225 MRIYA
still hurts
>I didn't realize the Russians lost so many helicopters that day
You literally saw live footage on that day
What are helicopters going to do deep into enemy lines with everyone and their babushka having a Stinger?
VEH DEH VEH
THEY SHOT DOWN OUR JET
I LOOK AROUND MY SQUAD IS ALL DEAD
THE REST LANDED SAFELY BUT GOT HUNTED LIKE SPORT
WHERE THE HELL IS OUR GROUND SUPPORT?
VEH DEH VEH
IN HELL I MEET
THE FALLSCHIRMJÄGERS FROM THE BATTLE OF CRETE
THIS OPERATION IS A FRICKING DISGRACE
AIRBORNE DROPS IN CONTESTED AIRSPACE?
DUMPED IN THE WATER AFTER SUNSET
TRYING OUR BEST TO SWIM TO THE SHORE
COULDN'T MAKE IT AND THEY'RE FLYING OUT MORE
Actually decent YouTube link. Thanks for sharing OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Antonov_Airport#Aftermath
Overall, Russia lost at least seven armoured fighting vehicles, 23 infantry fighting vehicles, three armoured personnel carriers, one anti-aircraft gun, two field artillery pieces, three helicopters, as well as 67 trucks, vehicles and jeeps at Antonov Airport.
Imagine losing more shit trying to capture one airport than the US lost like capturing all of Iraq
Some footage in there I hadn't seen before. Anyone know why there a fishing line inside the Ka-52? inb4 hanging laundry
Curtain on fishing line is your typical soviet sunscreen from 1960s. Googled cant even find such thing, probably need to use yandex.
Never seen this youtube account before, is this trustworthy?
Heh, I like that it looks like the guy in the foreground's noggin is on fire and putting off noxious black smoke
>you see Ivan
>when light helmet on fire like me,
>is no need to use smoke grenade for concealment
The fricking up of hostomel had more to do with the ukrainian preparation than any incompetence on the russian side. US intelligence knew the exact russian battle plans for months in advance and informed the Ukrainians of them. The Russians were initially planning to move forward with the invasion around the conviction of derek chauvin earlier in 2021 but held off after US diplomats brazenly told their russian counterparts that we knew exactly what was happening and that we were not going to let them get away with it. These diplomats were doing their best to try to stop the Russians from moving forward and to at least delay to allow the ukrainians more time to prepare. All of this has been pretty openly documented by US media. The Ukrainians knew exactly when and where the Russians were going to attack and where they were going to stage and attack from AND had months to prepare contingencies for all of that.There is virtually no scenario where any army would do well when its opposing force knows all of its objectives, troop movements and capabilities let alone the piece of shit russian army.
Makes sense. There's no way lots of random dudes with stingers just happened to be near that exact part of the river that morning.
it's not hard to figure out anon, if you know russian transport helicopters are staged in belarus just north of kyiv it's not that much of a step to conclude they're going to try and send helicopters down the river
The ukrainians knew hostomel was a huge objective and a potential lynchpin of the entire russian plan. It wasn't even close to being guess work.
yes, but i'm saying even if you don't know flight paths it's not difficult to guess which ones they're going to take if hostomel/kyiv is an objective. the plan was doomed from the start.
>The Ukrainians knew exactly when and where the Russians were going to attack
They were off by 1 day, ironically. They expected the invasion to start by Feb 23, so they though it was finally a bluf, and were caugh a bit off guard the next day.
Actually many units didn't got their MADPADS on time for the above. It should have been even worse for the russians.
This article about the battle is great: https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
They reacted a bit slow or at probably scrambled to cover all fronts with their available forces. They could have had way more short range radar AA like a few KUBs. Those may have wrecked the whole helicopter force before they touched down.
Nah, I think it's pretty clear that the US didn't know everything from top to bottom. The ukies took a not insignificant amount of damage to shit like AA in the initial bombardment, but if they'd known the exact hour of the invasion you can bet they wouldn't have lost anything. Plus if they knew troop disposition along the border I very sincerely doubt they would've left most of their troops in the donbas like they were. The kyiv thrust was essentially stopped by one ukrainian artillery brigade and a bunch of TDF with javelins spread out through the countryside.
An interesting fact is that the runway was oiled with sunflower oil beforehand by the Ukrainians, so the Russians could not receive transport planes with equipment and more VDV desant. This uncomplicated preparation literally ruined the entire operation to take over Kiev
>This uncomplicated preparation literally ruined the entire operation to take over Kiev
Is it simply because nobody wants to land on a runway covered in flammable oil or is there some other scientific reason I'm too stupid to understand?
No, the plane will just literally slip away
I'd say that sounds too cartoonish to be the real reason but this whole war has felt like one big, twisted cartoon.
200 iq pro gamer move
Say, why are there no pictures of Russian casualties from Hostomel airport if, as claimed, the Ukrainians destroyed the VDV detachment and re-took the airport by the evening....
There should be 300 VDV corpses.
May we see them?
And pls don't post this:
because that's an ambush in an entirely different part of the city on a different day.
i'm not gonna do it but you know damn well the other anon who spams dead russians has an entire folder of that vdv unit.
I've been following this shitfest from that night and have seen thousands of dead Vatnigs and Ukrops, and have NEVER, EVER seen any source post pictures of deceased VDV at Hostomel airport.
Whenever I ask, some tard posts pictures of the BMD ambush which was a totally unrelated event.
So I ask again, may we see your folder?
Be advised, failure to produce any evidence will only strengthen the Vatnik claims.
There's plenty of images of destroyed russian vehicles and gear at the airport:
> https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
Buth they weren't destroyed in a single place, the VDV along their reinforcements were killed in several places:
>In the airport itself, by manpads and artillery
>hunted in the forests near it
>Ambushed in Bucha
>Ambushed in Irpin
>There's plenty of images of destroyed russian vehicles and gear at the airport:
AGAIN, I fricking ask you to provide a SINGLE fallen VDV paratrooper from the 300 that were allegedly destroyed in a day when the airport was allegedly re-taken.
Photos of wrecked equipment are after April 1st when the Russians withdrew.
How fricking stupid, are you, exactly? Is English not your first language?
>fricking disingenous vatBlack person pretends that the russians left the airport without nobody dying despite truckloads of destroyed vehicles on the tarmac and days of artillery shelling
I'm not claiming the airport wasn't shelled or that they suffered no casualties. There's plenty of evidence of the high losses in attack helicopters.
There is NO EVIDENCE however to support the claim that Ukrainian forces swept the grounds of the airport and killed 300 VDV with only a handful of survivors dispersing in the woods. That idea, I think we can safely debunk.
>There is NO EVIDENCE however to support the claim that Ukrainian forces swept the grounds of the airport and killed 300 VDV with only a handful of survivors dispersing in the woods. That idea, I think we can safely debunk.
Black person.
That's the fricking aftermath of the battle. Meaning AFTER the runway got bombed.
You'd know that if you had paid any attention at the start of the war.
Anon he’s being moronic on purpose just stop
no one is claiming that there were zero casualities, Black person.
Why Ukrainians didn't release a single footage from the airport? They release a hundred videos every day..
Ok
That's after April 1st and the Russian withdrawal.
You're confused.
Have you watched the video the OP linked?
There are some casualties there.
If that doesn't suffice, I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for if you type "Hostomel Airport Aftermath" on your search browser of choice.
>There are some casualties there.
I saw no casualties except for the wrecked equipment and post-mortem helicopter wreckage photos.
What's the timestamp?
My guy where the frick have you been this entire past year we have been looking at pictures of dead hostomel VDV since day fricking two. I mean I know you're really just a vatnik pushing a narrative, but still lol.
Jesus he just keeps spamming
So anyway, to the VDV, may they rest in piss
Funny, not a single dead VDV was ever photographed at the airport, and not a single picture of Ukrainian forces inside the airport between Feb-25 and April-1st exists...
It's almost as if Ukraine NEVER retook the airport.
At some point the Russians will claim the whole Kyiv Feint never happened.
Do z-tards unironically deny Hostomel slaughterhouse just 1 year into invasion?
Who am I kidding, they denied it all year long.
>Hostomel slaughterhouse
May we see it (dated Feb-24 or Feb-25)?
No, in fact nothing has ever happened except what you can personally see anon
Oh, so now I have to accept it as a matter of faith.
How about no?
My conclusion, after skimming this thread, is that Ukraine did not re-take Hostomel before April 1st.
Nah but even if you scream it till the thread ends it changes nothing, the VDV is dead and Russia failed, I’m not in Russia so I can defy your lies you ignoble gay
rybar said everything
Notice how any evidence posted negates the Ukrainian lies and reinforces facts.
I dont even get whats being argued. The VDV failed in their mission and got completely obliterated thanks to being abandoned by their superiors.
It’s the usual tactic of trying to get incredibly specific and unobtainable information and then claiming you win, this moron does it constantly
This, it's like two people at most and the board been dealing with them for a year at this point. No matter how many times they get banned they keep coming back, and since they're obviously from the US or EU rangebanning their entire country isn't an option. Note how every time this gets pointed out in this thread they all (not just the one poster called out) dodge it. If it weren't true you'd think they'd point out that you're being delusional but no, they're just pretending it's not being said.
This is also what it's like being in an abusive relationship.
The """argument""" is over the airport changing hands multiple times before the final defeat of the opening offensive in Northern Ukraine. It's a waste of time. Don't bother.
>The VDV failed in their mission
Well, it's exactly the opposite.
The VDV captured Hostomel and held it until mechanized forces linked up the next day, and Ukraine wouldn't take the airport back until April 1st when the Russians ran away.
So they successfully took it...for a few days, then failed to keep it, failing the objective of actually keeping it?
>So they successfully took it...for a few days, then failed to keep it, failing the objective of actually keeping it?
As far as the VDV goes, yes, they succeeded in an armed heliborne assault and then held off the forces that may or may not have tried to re-take the airport (zero photo of video evidence) until friendly mechanized forces showed up a day later.
However because the air strip was littered with trucks and buses, the airport wasn't used for re-supply, so while the objective was taken, the whole operation was a failure.
So who the frick cares, the VDV is still a shell of its self, even Russia has been broadcasting mass funerals for them, and the airport is Ukrainian
The historical revisionism by hoholshills needs to be called out.
Anon no one who isn’t a vatnick uses the phrase hohol, please consider taking a look at your priorities before making such claims, aimed it they even matter
>hoholshills
Reality isn't negotiable, vatnik. The VDV got hung out to dry at hostomel and were fricking slaughtered by chubby 45+ year old dads calling in 75 year old artillery for fire support.
It matters the same way that claiming the Battle of Omaha was a German a decisive victory or that the Dieppe Raid was an overwhelming British success.
>So who the frick cares
I do. Recording objective truth is important.
Learn to deal with it like an adult instead of throwing an autistic juvenile tantrum next time.
It's a fact that Ukraine never re-took the airport until April 1st, when a flood of images was released of destroyed equipment, further evidence that Ukraine quickly floods the web with photos of damaged gear and Russian dead as soon as they can.
No you don’t
>Learn to deal with it like an adult instead of throwing an autistic juvenile tantrum next time.
Man I am so happy I'm not within 100 miles of you. Enjoying your impotent rage?
What does it change? Or are you just hyper focused on saving face for dead men?
It matters the same way that claiming the Battle of Omaha was a German a decisive victory or that the Dieppe Raid was an overwhelming British success.
Ok
Listen Black person.
If this is vital to you, for whatever moronic reason you cooked up in that krokodil lab that you call a brain, you would go back to the archives and search what was being reported and posted.
You wouldn't be arguing moronic points while screaming "PROOFS?!?!?!?" at the top of your lungs without providing any proof of your own to back up your claims.
>Your memories are wrong
>Save us once
>You'll never wake up
>What you thought you want
>Trust us now
>It's time to let them go
>Give up
>the Russians ran away
i.e. were defeated
Yes, they were absolutely defeated in their broader Kiev operation because their force was made untenable by constant harassment of their supply lines and failures to encircle Kiev.
But that does not detract from the tactical success of the VDV and their capture/retention of Hostomel on Feb-24/25.
>the tactical success of the VDV and their capture/retention of Hostomel on Feb-24/25.
They failed to use the airport to land reinforcements, boxed in while shelled by artillery.
They were only able to break out when they were reinforced by land (Feb 27), and then they were destroyed as a fighting force between Bucha and Irpin by early March.
Note how this VDV prisoner tale pretty much matches the events of https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
Interesting video about the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment, the main VDV force fricked up during the invasion, and where they are now:
>tactical success
Can you imagine a Japanese person posting that the atomic bombings didn't hurt Japan, because from 6th to 9th August 1945 the war effort was largely unimpaired, then calling you a dirty yankee mutt if you point out that the entire Empire of Japan surrendered literally 6 days later?
Can you imagine if they claimed that the surrender didn't count, as the atomic bombings didn't make it happen? Can you imagine if they then claimed that the Soviet entry into the war didn't matter either? Can you imagine if they claimed that the damage was limited to a few Japanese citizens reduced to ash marks on concrete stairs?
These people are fricking delusional and should be institutionalized.
>tactical success of the VDV
Literally did not happen. Stop trying to glorify a bunch of wife beaters in silly undergarments half a world away.
>Literally did not happen.
The video literally says the Ukrainians lost the airport on Feb-25th.
Juvenile autist.
Go play DOTA you worthless child.
Ok
No matter how much you try to blow the corpses of dead VDV it won't change the fact that the initial force was pushed out of the airport. Seriously. This type of gaslighting and thinly veiled threatening only works if you have power over the person you're doing it to. I know you're wrong and you can't do shit about it.
If you actually have proof (hint: you don't) go to a western scholar and explain this to them. You're not going to because you don't have proof and are an unstable piece of shit.
Ok
>it won't change the fact that the initial force was pushed out of the airport.
They were never pushed out the airport on the 24th.
In fact, the Ukrainians lied about counter-attacking:
The CNN guy even claims they went there because the Ukrainians had announced they were attacking the airport, and when he arrived, all he got was a bunch of VDV guys walking around casually.
And even Ukrainians admit they lost the airport again on Feb-25 and the town of Hostomel on March 5.
Deal with it, b***h Black person.
He’s just gonna say the dates wrong and post a smug picture or it’s ukie/western propaganda
For them to have operational success they would have had to succeed in the aims of their operation ie. to hold the airport and allow for reinforcements to fly in. Did the reinforcements fly in? No? Then they failed in their mission.
You are a stupid fricking Black person.
I like how this is essentially like someone without object permanence screaming the toy doesn’t exist because they can’t see it
It's really simple.
No evidence, unsupportable claims: rejected.
And it's logical too, because Ukraine lost the airport the very next day, and then lost the entire town of Hostomel by March-5th, as per the video.
Are you confused? Do you need a pillow for your head?
So this is what it’s like living in Russia, fricking Christ, I’d drink myself to death to if I had to deal with freaks like you
>ukrops still pretend they won against vdv and that they still control Hostomel Airport as of today
yea and moskva will sink any day now
cope and seethe
I piss on putin
I just find it interesting how they wait for a few replies to pop up THEN reply
>didn’t even shitpost to bump limit
Man even trolls are shit these days
This particular group makes new threads once they're called out. Or they let it slide down a few pages, then bump it again and pretend they're not the original shills who got called out, but harmless anons who are just asking questions.
>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut
>Animated Analysis
Where is the all combat footage from the video? I mean full videos.
ITT: Vatnik shill trying to derail the thread about the russian defeat at Hostomel airport by mudding the issue with meaningless nickpicking.
Meanwhile Oryx: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/destination-disaster-russias-failure-at.html
>destroyed and captured Russian vehicles and equipment at Hostomel Airport
>1 BMD-1KSh-A command vehicle: (1, destroyed)
>1 Unknown BTR-D/BMD-2: (1, destroyed)
>1 BMD-2 IFV: (1, destroyed)
>16 BMD-4M: (1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, destroyed) (6 and 7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, 13, 14, 15 and 16, destroyed)
>2 BTR-MDM 'Rakushka': (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed)
Russian version of events for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aox4tTAYeR4
>"animated" video, that a child could make
>with small fragments of real footage...from different combat areas
WTF, I didn't realise Russia sucks so hard. Banana man lost.
polish mil blogger's take on those events: https://thorkillblog-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2023/03/w-sieci-ukrainskich-kamstw-bitwa-o.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Ukraine initially lied about who destroyed Mrija, only after irrefutable visual evidence was posted they admitted their artillery was used to make the airport unusable to the Russians and it was those artillery strikes that damaged the plane. They can easily lie about whole Hostomel timeline. Frick 'em.
>vatniks still buttmad about hostomel a year later
This is delightful
>raise russian flag over city
>getting blasted by ukies moments later
many such cases