https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Antonov_Airport
how were the russians able to fly dozens of helis without getting shot out of the sky?
ukraine letting them doesn't seem convincing.
they were gambling losing the capital.
Battle of Antonov airport
One of the few successful operations during the opening stages of the war was effectively shutting down Ukraine air defense via electronic warfare means. I'm not an expert of it but you can find info on internet.
links?
why could the russians do electronic warfare then and not a few weeks later as the war continued?
Research it for yourself lazy bum
you haven't provided any evidence for your claims.
post better informed replies.
There's a very detailed and articulated video about it made by Military History (not) Visualized.
nice video
In case the link doesn't work
Ok guys i have no idea why the link doesn't work but if you're interested this is how the preview looks
And i can still watch it too.
1)sat isn't the only backup. There still are massive soviet protected cable networks maintained by Ukrtelecom. And, even besides that, you still got the Internet, which has own issues, of course
2) >systems that were used to control the AA
I don't know how to break this to you, but our AA system is isolated and ancient. For example, pictured. These bad boys had to be basically auction-hunted. At the moment, I have an impression that this expert doesn't know shit
3) >helis could fly because of cyber and missile attacks
As you can see in the video a bit higher, helis were flying below the radar, for starters. To counter this, you need short range AA, but, as I've said, there was not enough
I don't want to debunk every his statement, so this should be enough
his whole theory is
>they switched to telegram in 2 days
>at one point elon musk offered them starlink
although musk is not ok with them using the system in such a way and threatened to cut them loose.
I don't believe this guy.
he contradicts himself during the video
>ukrainians had 8 years to stop cyber attacks
>they were blindsided by a cyber attack
>although musk is not ok with them
This is what an education based solely on PrepHole posts looks like.
https://www.politico.eu/article/spacex-restricted-internet-ukraine-prevent-escalation-elon-musk-russia-starlink-ww3-gwynne-shotwell-drones-infrastructure/
Musk really is a megalomaniac thinking he have a right to say how things should be done.
He provide Starlink because it's an obvious demonstration of strength for his network, but he'll also say extremely dumb things like his "plan for peace" or "restrict starlink" because he want to be seen as if he was a peacemaker Tony Stark.
He's likely also annoyed to have to make Moskow his enemy because it was a potential market since Russia is a very big country.
>PrepHole education
Is why it take you so long to call him up on his moronic bullshit. Next you'll tell me he defend freedom or information even as he order his posts to appear more than others.
Ok I accept your response but still they managed to land quite a lot of troops with relatively few losses during the approaching phase. Man was it just because they were flying low?
Basically yes. If your long range AA can't get a lock and there's not enough short range AA, then given enough numbers, the enemy will overrun your defenses
Is that Poroshenko?
>Ok guys i have no idea why the link doesn't work
Because you keep posting a shortened bad link, this one should work fine:
Shit, I get it now, it's the moronic word filter swapping 5-0-Y for "baased", try copy pasting this link without the spaces:
youtube.com/watch?v=So o ynsCBOr0
>baased
very based indeed
It was a bit too effective as it also nuked their own comms and Russians naturally didn't field any systems that could work around their own EW.
the operation was a success then.
by that logic it can be used now, too.
EW works both ways so if your plan is stupid and does not take working around that supremely effective EW of yours into account, you are going to have a very bad time
And the Russian plan for the initial invasion was very very stupid
So they eventually turned it off since it was disabling their AA and comms along with Ukraine's AA and comms.
Their EW pods jam their own radios and other systems in a meaningful enough way that after the first couple of days they had to turn them off because it was causing Blue on Blue incidents and letting the Ukrainian Air Force could get the drop on them when AWACS would see them but couldn't alert them since their jammer pod was blocking their radio.
Also the entirety of Ukrainian IADS was in the process of relocation to avoid the initial barrage of Kalibr and Iskanders. That's why the entire air war in the early days was a shitshow. Russian SHORAD operators were told all aircraft overhead were assumed to be friendly since the UAF was supposed to have been knocked out on day 1... and we all know that shit didn't happen.
They didn't shut down shit. There were hits on stationary S-125 batteries and decoys, but Kyiv region is covered by S-300. They are simply not designed to deal with helicopter swarms, to many targets. For that reason, soviets had Tunguska, Shilka, but Ukraine simply didn't have enough
if you know 1 month in advance that it's coming then how do you manage to be this badly prepared?
didn't they have soviet manpads?
Well, helis were shot down. It's just the matter of numbers
1) 1 month in advance is very short time for bureaucracy (regarding the readiness of the field)
2) If you have 30 helis, 20 soviet MPADS and maybe 2-4 new Ukrainian or stingers, that's a huge pile, but it's already not enough. And then out of each 10 soviet only 6 launch and 3 hit. That's why you need shilkas, Ukrainian MOD knew this, ordered freshly modernized 3CУ-23-4M-A1, but russian sabotage slowed down not only missile programs, but anything AA too. S-200 still weren't operational by 2022 for this same reason btw
>1 month in advance is very short time for bureaucracy (regarding the readiness of the field)
if you know 1 month in advance you're getting invaded, do you really care about bureaucracy? I don't find that compelling.
>20 soviet MPADS
why have such a low number for a known operation that would end the war right then?
no reason.
>do you really care about bureaucracy in within 1 month of an invasion?
Yes. Remember, Ukraine was part of the premier communist state for 80 years. Everything is riddled with bureaucracy to this day.
I have to note, however, it is nowhere near german levels and mostly only present in government-owned branches. And it can be overridden in case of emergency. Just a few SBU guys gently inviting some people into famously luxurious SBU basements, and it's al cheeki breeki
They didn’t believe the CIA when they warned them. If you remember what happened days before the invasion Zelensky thought Joe Biden was just fear mongering.
It probably didn't help that Biden had invited Russia to make "a minor incursion" into Ukraine shortly before
The Russian EW in the opening stage basically shut down Ukrainian air defenses and it's a known fact, that's why a lot of the early footage shows Russian aircraft/helicopters shot down with MANPADS and that's why early in the war Russian air assets were flying so deep into Ukraine
The problem was that Russians in their moronation have also shut down their own air defenses in the process which is why you had footage of Bayraktars destroying Pantsirs and other AD systems
iirc Uke AA was in the process of dispersing to avoid being taken out by long range guided munitions so that temporary blackout was the window the russians had to zerg rush Antanov
Not enough operational Shilkas due to russian sabotage of MIC, corrupt manager of Antonow didn't let fortify the field (also responsible for the loss of Mriya, she could fly away even without 2 engines)
>Not enough operational Shilkas
you're saying they got a lot more in the following weeks and this helped them stop russian airport hopping?
Yup. A lot of them just needed minor repairs to be useful after storage. At day 1 there were basically Ukroboronprom ads urging all workers, including retired, to go to the factories, and from what I know, these worked well. So in very short time Ukraine got (almost) full soviet scale wartime production, and this is no joke
won't the same helis be able to destroys these platforms? I think they can.
That is why you have several echelons of AA.
If we go off the RUIS report, there were orders not to shoot down aircraft of Russian forces in the hope that it could be 'resolved'. Plus genuine attempts by Russia to make sure resistance didn't happen.
this doesn't seem plausible.
apparently the ukrainians were told 1 month in advance of the russian plan to take the airport.
and that an invasion was coming.
>In the time leading up to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) obtained detailed information about Russian attack plans. CIA director William J. Burns travelled to Ukraine in January 2022, and informed the Ukrainian leadership that Russia intended to capture Antonov Airport for an airbridge, which would allow Russian forces to quickly move into Kyiv to "decapitate the government".[18] According to Kyrylo Budanov, Chief of Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence, banker Denys Kireyev obtained information on 23 February 2022 from Russian sources that the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine would begin on 24 February and that Antonov Airport would be the site of the main attack of the invasion.[19] Analysts believed that President of Russia Vladimir Putin and the rest of the Russian leadership assumed that such a quick operation would throw Ukraine into disarray, resulting in the collapse of the Ukrainian military and allowing Russia to install a puppet government. Madison Policy Forum analyst John Spencer argued that this would have secured a military victory for Russia, albeit probably producing a massive Ukrainian insurgency.[20] However, the warnings by the CIA and Kireyev helped the Ukrainian military to prepare for an attack on Antonov Airport.
>how were the russians able to fly dozens of helis without getting shot out of the sky?
Most professional Ukrainian forces were near the Donbas waiting for the expected thrust and attempt at encirclement, leaving strategic SAM forces near Kyiv (not very good at intercepting helicopters), EW was being done by both sides, SHORAD systems were either not present or not working very well. Also the Russians flew down the river at low altitude, pretty hard to shoot to begin with.
It was a fairly well planned airborne assault tbh.
Anon back in 2014 air defense troops near Crimea were told not to fire at the Russians and obeyed, and Russia tried a similar thing in 2022 to minimal success near Kyiv and decent success near Kherson.
Yes and that's what they used. You don't seem to understand the confusion of the first ~12 hours of the war. If the Ukrainians had down to the minute plans of the Russian advance 24 hours in advance I'm sure they would have tried to move air defense closer, but by what we have they didn't get that detail and had to hedge their bets.
>Most professional Ukrainian forces were near the Donbas waiting for the expected thrust and attempt at encirclement
..how is that place more important than your capital?
>leaving strategic SAM forces near Kyiv (not very good at intercepting helicopters)
if you know 1 month in advance the battle plan for the airport then why not fix it? makes no sense, really.
>Also the Russians flew down the river at low altitude,
why can't russians do that now? it's the same situation as then.
>apparently the ukrainians were told 1 month in advance of the russian plan to take the airport.
they were also told a dozen different things by various NATO members who claimed to know
>and that an invasion was coming
and they were told that an invasion was absolutely not coming because there was no fricking way the russians could be so dumb as to invade without fuel or hospitals or all the other things you need to pull off an actual invasion.
lol. yeahhh pretty sure the ukrainian political and military top didnt give orders to shoot down the planes because were just waiting it out to see what happens.
then soldiers in the lower ranks started shooting at the russian helicopters. then zelensky was all gay and said "i dont need a ride, i need ammunition".
no Black person you needed to spend the prior 2 months preparing your country for an invasion
Please understand liberals have a mental disorder that prevents them from thinking the future can be anything but western capitalism until the end of time.
>no Black person you needed to spend the prior 2 months preparing your country for an invasion
There were preparations. Radar decoys don't grow on trees, for starters. Pre-war Zelensky was a lot more moronic, and there was a lot of moles everywhere (e.g. removal of mines on Chongar), but it's not like absolutely nothing was done
>Pre-war Zelensky was a lot more moronic,
He was always the wrong choice
Timoshenko is a piece of shit and there's a reason nobody votes for her.
Nonsense! Even tigers love her!
shes a meme
chocolate fuhrer on the other hand...
>without getting shot out of the sky
already memoryholed?
I was referring to most of them getting shot out of the sky.
you posted a clip of what, 10 helis? and 1 gets destroyed?
10% efficacy.
that's not a good.
50 helicopters in the raid and 2 shot down, one having the regiment or brigade commander. Not great not terrible.
Also how many helicopters were shot down is irrelevant in the end since the artillery units around Kyiv were basically untouched and were able to immediately assert fire control over the airfield and MSRs to the north. The Russians were never going to link up on time and the airfield was never going to become serviceable.
This is speculation but I bet the reports of the Russian transport plane shot down was actually it being shot at by an S-300, doing evasive maneuvers (which to a skittish S-300 operator may look like it being shot down), going home, then the squadron flying those planes telling the VDV it could go frick itself until the SAMs were cleared out.
>..how is that place more important than your capital?
The Ukrainians always expected the Russians to fix them in place in the Donbas then launch an offensive somewhere from their actual borders, encircle most of the Ukrainian army and rush the rest of the country. The best option in that case is to put most of your army in the Donbas and prepare for a massive battle. The intelligence revealing the invasion from Belarus, attempt at a naval invasion in Odessa, etc was taken and TDF units were raised in an attempt to delay any Russian incursions.
Not defending the Donbas just means they can overwhelm it then encircle and destroy the rest of the army piecemeal outside fortified positions. It's not a good idea.
>if you know 1 month in advance the battle plan for the airport then why not fix it?
What if it's a fake, anon?
>why can't russians do that now?
Both sides do, have you not been watching videos of the war?
>The Russians were never going to link up on time and the airfield was never going to become serviceable.
>The attack resumed on the next day with another air assault by the VDV combined with a ground assault by armored reinforcements coming from the Belarusian border, breaking through the Ukrainian defenses.
they did link. so they could've moved AA systems.
the strip can be fixed in a few hours. it's just a paved road.
>The best option in that case is to put most of your army in the Donbas and prepare for a massive battle
they got blindsided in the south, too. they linked crimea to donbas.
>What if it's a fake, anon?
biden said on tv that an invasion was coming days before.
so we know that for sure.
having intel 1 month prior is not hard to believe.
>Both sides do
russians have air superiority, they should've done it at a much larger scale.
only recently have I seen them use glide bombs, 40 km away from the target.
Oh, this is a concern troll thread. Nevermind.
you can just say that you don't know, instead of posting bot replies.
No, frick off. If you're genuine there's tons of authentic information floating around. You're trying to enter into a debate about something that historically happened, that we all know about, that we all have proof of. Make another thread already, and please post some hot (NOT UNDERAGE YOU SICK FRICK) women in it so it's worth looking at.
>there's tons of authentic information floating around
curiously, you didn't post any.
Not going to spoonfeed you moron.
> >The attack resumed on the next day with another air assault by the VDV combined with a ground assault by armored reinforcements coming from the Belarusian border, breaking through the Ukrainian defenses.
No
>they did link. so they could've moved AA systems.
No
>the strip can be fixed in a few hours. it's just a paved road.
Not really
>>What if it's a fake, anon?
>biden said on tv that an invasion was coming days before.
>so we know that for sure.
>having intel 1 month prior is not hard to believe.
What a stupid post. You really seem like a concern troll.
another bot post.
sad
Gay posts. Just have a nice day instead of posting, or at least try to make it less obvious next time
are you going to spam my thread with copy pasted lines from the
>dummy's guide to gaslighting
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Kys brainless fricking know nothing moron
No they didn't link, your homosexual VDV got obliterated
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>This is speculation but I bet the reports of the Russian transport plane shot down was actually it being shot at by an S-300, doing evasive maneuvers (which to a skittish S-300 operator may look like it being shot down), going home, then the squadron flying those planes telling the VDV it could go frick itself until the SAMs were cleared out.
I think that's an unlikely and weird assessment. The idea of a 0.2 t:w aircraft with a max speed of 0.8m, capable of something like 2g manouevres, an RCS larger than most suburbs, a dry weight of 72t and an MTOW of 190t dodging an S300 is absurd.
Da, comrade. Ukrop nazis were of being moronic and bad. Incompetence only explanation. The cow moos at midnight and so too does the piggy squeal at truth. I only wonders why my fellow Anglo Saxi do not understand the peril…
they couldn't stop the attack and had minor results against the air assault?
what are you talking about?
Much more just wasn't filmed. You don't have much time when you have to go through a pile of not working manpads
>such a low number
because it isn't a low number. You arm a hundred of people 20 tubes each-that's already 2000. How many Strelas did Germany promise, again?
>Much more just wasn't filmed. You don't have much time when you have to go through a pile of not working manpads
I get the idea that you're just making up excuses for the ukrainias.
>only had 20 manpads and a bicycle
>manpads barelly worked, really.
they couldn't take pictures of dozens of destroyed helis with dead crews inside becase...reasons
Just call them pigs or something so the thread can get 404ed.
someone's mad.
no one is forcing you participate in this thread.
are you sadomasochistic?
paid by the hour?
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/PMcV4lT16vIEM8zQklh79g/
that's not me, if this you're trying to imply.
people can save files and other post and then repost them later.
did you know that?
now you do.
Very bad English
>you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
gottem
Kek, ok
I have words of people who were actually there and had to go through the piles of improperly stored soviet MPADS. What do you have?
In the flesh, indeed. He bought them for AA system in like 2019 iirc, it's just more convenient to find this photo than to go through ancient books
>I have words of people
well...bucko. you need more than that.
Again, what do *you* have?
you're the one who need to provide evidence for what you're claiming, not me.
saying that ukraine, who's been in armed conflict since 2014, didn't have soviet manpads in 2022 is hilarious.
Are you moronic, have dyslexia or just stupidity-trolling? Where did I say that "Ukraine didn't have soviet manpads"?
>Where did I say that "Ukraine didn't have soviet manpads"?
>I have words of people who were actually there and had to go through the piles of improperly stored soviet MPADS.
you should see a doctor.
Oh, so you're stupidity-trolling. Gotcha.
if you're gonna come up with excuses, then try to be consistent.
>didn't have enough manpads
>manpads didn't work
>actually, the manpads were improperly stored.
as we all know, soviet shit is fragile and breaks easily.
Sure thing, buddy
Apparently this is exactly how those "nato papers" ended up on PrepHole kek
nato papers?
The allegedly top secret documents
wasn't zelensky parroting something about secret documents regarding the imminent invasion of Moldova?
Yes, I remember that
there were literallly 100 helicopters used and only 2 got shot down.
Except just in first few days 2 Ka-52 and 1 Mi-28 were shot down. Already more than you are claiming :3
hard to tell but does the one chopper skim the fricking water? it meets its reflection/shadow and there's a spray behind it
all while the one infront of them flies straight into the water nose down.. god damn lmao
>Seconded
Saw that as well- I bet they were all shitting their borsch when that splash of water came in.
yea the pilot shit his pants when the chopper ahead of him got hit
I dont know anything about electronic warfare so i'll ask this: Given how americans rely so much on airstrikes is there some way for small insurgencies to jam their radios/communications so they cant actually call for them?
Yes, if you did a bit of research and constructed a jammer powerful enough to jam most or all of the frequency spectrum used by US radios you could probably cut an infantry unit off. But that jammer would be immediately located and hit with artillery.
It's a far better idea to build direction finding radios and tie that into your artillery kill chain.
They lost choppers
see
They lost more but I don't have harder numbers currently
uuuohhh
>ukraine letting them doesn't seem convincing.
>they were gambling losing the capital.
Ukraine also knew the northern Russian force is the conscript force
74 posts. 16 posters
90% of this thread is the vatnik OP replying to every post to say actually oinkers are moronic. They really should be exterminated from the earth.
>muh gays, muh doggos
you psyopped yourself into obsessing about this
now you watch with impotence as your obsessions turn your child trafficking rapist HIV army into mulch
cheers -NAFO
you psyopped yourself into obsessing about me posting the homosexual storming of Kiev
God the early days of this war were so fricking kino.
Here's and article on TDF units that fought around Kiev and in the north, just some actual fricking Red Dawn type of shit.
https //archive(dot)ph/H6m1S
>journalist whose husband was killed by Russians hunting tanks out of her minivan
>drone enthusiast clubs providing intel to ukr arty
>bunch of civilians and TDF abmushing russian convoys
>some insane dude staying behind to blow up a bridge in the path of a russian collumn
>demolitions expert blowing up a dam
These are the same guys who got BTFO by a bunch of armed civvies and underequipped TDF btw.
azog? in mariupol? yeah, they really did a number on them.
You forget all the old people whipping out there shotguns, shooting at a mass of infantry, and going back inside to drink vodka.
doubt that ever happened.
but if it did then why do ukrainians cry about war crimes?
if you are an armed civilian with no insignia and shoot then you can be summarily executed according to the Geneva convention.
Iirc some were shot down by manpads wielded by Ukr national guardsmen.
2/200 is abysmal performance
>without getting shot out of the sky
They did though?
>let enemy setup camp fully before you unleash fricking hell (heavy artillery and even helicopter/jet strikes) in a pre-sighted zone
>also not letting their support convoys reach them
this has been discussed many times. letting them get in seemingly uncontested was part of the plan. The average foot soldier didn't really know about the plan, as there were still firefights in and around the airport, but there WAS a plan being executed. I remember some co-operative russian PoW's being interviewed, saying it was suspiciously unguarded
if you let the other side take the capital, you win!
I really doubt that. The Ukrainians were only able to call for fires via cellphone. If high comand had planned this they would have made cratering the runway a priority. Also, there wasn't much to be gained by drawing paratroopers in. The VDV may be one of the few competent forces in Russia. But Putin would have found a way to squander them anyway.
The risk of establishing a Russian airhead in the Capitol was too great just to mop up some paratroopers.
>The Ukrainians were only able to call for fires via cellphone
2014 called, it wants your "facts" back. In 2014, yes, even aviation had to use cellphones for comms. It is, however, not 2014 now
At least 4, from what I remember. Most likely more
>2014 called, it wants your "facts" back
Reddit snark. Just shut the frick up. We were all joking abut how Ukraine was running the war effectively via cellphone during the first weeks of the war. They still lean on it and starlink.
Very amusing indeed. Except even the first checkpoints had better comms than cellphones. (Yes, I am from Kyiv and never left it)
So you're saying this is fiction? And I'm just supposed to take the word of some gay claiming to be from Ukraine who isn't even enlisted in his own nation's struggle for survival?
The Ukrainians using cellphones for communication weren't the only ones involved in fighting in Hostomel.
There is "Kropyva" app made specifically fo ZSU, but it's not "cellphone comms". It's an information system that uses Internet an proobably could be used there.Reporters being typical reporters then misinterpreted it.
> who isn't even enlisted in his own nation's struggle for survival
Not everyone gets to, sadly. I got the 'ole corona on feb.23, and by the time I was more or less healthy, it was almost April. Then I tried to go to military department of my university ("вiйcькoвa кaфeдpa"), convinced a very nice military girl to help me, spent a week in lines in the commissariate, a few days trying to remove my diagnosis (asthma, misdiagnosed at 6y.o. and some other stuff). Surgeon agreed to "close his eyes", then I successfully fooled the ophtalmologist by memorising the "ШБ мнк" table, but fricking therapist decided to be a dick (well, he always is a dick, and his assistant is too, long story). Basically, I had two choices. Use up a car and a whole-ass lieutenant colonel to ride me to the central comissariate of Kyiv to go through medical comission there, and where I'd most likely hear the same thing or to go home. I chose the latter, trying very hard to not let any tears out (still don't know if this was visible on my face), the girl who helped me happened to walk nearby when I talked with the comissar, tried to help once again, that dick started saying shit like "I don't want to be responsible if he has an attack in a stressful situation" despite that fricking nothing happened when pions (those frickers are loud as frick) were shooting very close to my house, while I also had corona
that turned out pretty long, so I'll just stop here
That's cellphone comms you absolute moron.
I hope the russians kill you tonight for your moronness.
That is not cellphone comms, that is Internet comms, and Internet was only used because the system is designed to use it, not because MIGHTY RUZZZIANZ shut down all other means
The jerk store also called btw. They said after you're finished returning those facts to 2014 they want you back
Yes, but they know the nature of para drops. They know they're light infantry with some AT weapons, no armor or heavy guns to back them up. The guys at the top knew they had to focus on blunting the armored thrust set up to support them, which they did - the average sooldier and officer didn't really know what was happening though, and that's where you get the wild tales of ordinary people blowing shit up. So, in a way it was a gamble for higher command to assume the guys on the ground would get their shit together and blunt the advance while the ukes flooded certain areas to prevent additional advances, and used their heavy guns and aviation to finish off the mostly helpless paratroopers.
Lots of ukrainian plans in the early weeks relied on gambles like that, however it's not worth discussing - it fricking worked somehow. And there were many others that failed which aren't thrown in our faces (ukraine trying to go through Zaporizhia to unblock mariupol comes to mind). but around Kyiv, the gamble paid off.
That's what war is, you moron. You plan for people to do their jobs but if your plan is shit or they suck at their jobs, you lose. Expecting your artillery to be able to hit dudes standing in an open, flat area that their guns are pre-sighted to is not much of a gamble though. They tried to shoot down the helis with what they had and the VDV were supposed to be good so instead of hurling infantry at them, they just pounded them with artillery
They did lose something like 3 or 4 helicopters, maybe 2. One of them had one of the commanders of the VDV forces involved in the battle.
lol
lol
lmao
do all russians have an extra chromosome or something? is it the fetal alcohol syndrome?
amazing levels of moronation
>how were the russians able to fly dozens of helis without getting shot out of the sky?
Lot of UA air defense assets were being moved around to not get hit by cruise missiles. Vdv exploited this gap with the helicopter raids to hostomel.
the initial operation was in 2 phases, from 24 to 25 feb.
then there was the Russians exiting the place, presumably with the same helis, on 27.
3 were destroyed.
If you dont read yet: https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
>The Only Easy Day Was Yesterday. Hostomel. Special Unit "Omega"
that text contradicts itself.
>we killed the first who landed
then post snapshots of clips titled
>the first minutes of the landing
ain't no one dead
land --- some time --- kill
>that text contradicts itself
As if that's anything new for ukroshills.
>without getting shot out of the sky?
Plenty went down
Element of surprise coupled with the Ukrainian Army being given last-minute orders to disperse and negate the effectiveness of Russian airstrikes, meaning that most Ukrainian air defense was either turned off or on the move.
https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN
Really interesting account from the first days if the invasion.
The was a lot of mix up and prayalsis in command at the start. The guy in that account says he was told to not take any MANPADs to Hostomel because they already have some there, but he gets there and there isn't.
Someone dies use an igla to hit a helicopter, but nobody took credit for it or knew who did it.
They still fricked up the landings though.
At the start of the war Ukraine didn't have top-tier western anti-air system. All they had were Russian-corrupted soviet cold war stuff.
And Russia swarmed the area with the only part of their army who were effectively trained.
Don't even interrupt your enemy making a mistake; i.e. flying elite units into the preplanned artillery strikes