>We said that being able to dump all your airspeed and energy in some silly airshow maneuver is a meme.
no you stupuid homosexuals spent an entire thread telling me that an f22 using thrust vectoring "flippity-flops" to aim its radar at a target was "good",
and any Russian plane doing any "flippity-flops" was bad, shit even
No, literally nobody ever said that. But you screeched over multiple threads trying to force this strawman, you're the only one who does which makes you super easy to identify lmao.
hey, guess what? Russia is shit, their military gear is shit, their planes are shit and (you) are shit. The Russian military is the second best in Ukraine. Learn your fricking place. Russia shitboxes do not now and have not since the 1960s been competition to western gear and never will again and only were because of the USSR and WW2 lease lend and German science.
Oh hi there Big homosexual, didn't see you at first, although I did smell you.
You're arguing semantics, probably because you receive crypto deposits from nu-Wagner.
You realize "turning away promptly and at speed" is different from airshow "1080° Falling Cobra Reverse No Ollie McKick-Flip Supreme," but they cam both be called "maneuvers," right?
The cobra maneuver is a flashy move with no utility in real combat outside of only a couple of very specific situations. Using thrust vectoring to aim a radar is good, but a newer radar with better beam steering would be better. Unfortunately the F-22 won't be getting an upgrade because the F-35 is replacing it in some roles.
>The plane was over the sea of Azov
That doesn't rule out it is now underneath the sea of Azov. It's "evasive measures" not explicitly "successful evasive measures".
If you are able to keep your momentum it is very useful. Cobra, Flatspin and god knows what else third worlders think is amazing, are completely pointless though.
If Buzz thinks he is a Space Ranger and not a toy, why doesn't he talk to Andy and the kids when they open him up?
I thought it was because toys pretty much go immobile and unconscious, even involuntarily, when actual humans look at them. They can only move at that point if they know of the effect and consciously resist it.
Someone who doesn't know of being a toy also wouldn't know of the effect, and therefore cannot move, while Woody, a long time toy, knows full well of the effect and can turn it off at will (1st movie when he traumatized that one child).
You need high EM performance a la F-15 or F-16 to dodge missiles in BVR, not high AoA airshow tricks a la Su-27 or F/A-18. Though truth be told the Su-27 platform has very good EM performance, the vatnigs just choose to shill the moronic tricks.
>he thinks "evasive measures" is having a higher rate of turn than the missile
Google "defensive bvr" and "defensive notching".
Clearly you are better off in a fighter than an airliner so there is always a use for high instantanious turn rate and high sustained turn rate but being able to turrn harder than the other fighter matters a lot less than you missile having higher energy when it gets to him.
>I assume chairs putin might sit on are chosen not to disintegrate under unusual loads
Putin made his first millions as part of the group that redecorated and renovated the Kremlin under Yeltsin. How much do you think those chairs really cost?
>*Wait till he learns learn about Putin throwing pen in anger*
https://en.topcor.ru/14832-germanskaja-pressa-putin-shvyrnul-ruchku-jeto-ukazyvaet-na-krizis-v-rossii.html
>I'm not sure putin is in chair-breaking shape anymore. maybe he knocked one over, but this feels like propaganda.
Covid is in a third wave in Eastern Europe, Shoigu would have to quarantine for a week to see monke in person.
Correct. He got Shoigu to break the chairs and slap himself for intimidation. Their relationship is literally that of Deidranna and Elliot from JA2 at this point.
As we commit Ivan's earthly remains to the earth, we say together those ancient, poignant words: "Asses to asses, lust to lust." In these words, we acknowledge the cycle of ass and eggs, the interconnectedness of all living things. From the lust we come, and to the ass, we shall return.
Not sure. My guess? Putin's tantrum has made him demand an unnecessary action (i.e send spec ops into the meat-grinder to die).
However because the idiot has zero OPSEC, we know the spec ops are coming. They'll all be blasted to hell before they even REACH Kharkiv. Ukrainian precision missiles will be on them like Harley on Batman.
>The russsian barbarian was defeated. We returned with the spoils of the war. At least a division's worth of Russian fembois. We loaded them en masse into multiple vehicles, returning to Kyiv with our loose prizes."
No you idiots. This is obviously just more Russian macho copium. Putin didn't give a single shit and nothing is going to change. Except the vatnik crowd must be pleased somehow so they are saving face by saying "Putin *FEELS* your anger as well, your voices are heard, we will give dem ukes what foe!"
>Putin is Vince >The Kremlin is the corporation >Shoigu is The Rock >Prigo is (was) Mankind
All of Russia is nothing but the backdrop for an alternate timeline in which Mankind pussied out and lost against The Rock. It all makes sense now.
Cover me, when I run
Cover me, through gun fire
Something shot down my plane Now I'm quoting Bane
Cover Me, Air Defense Please
Hey, hey, hey
Shoigu , Shoigu , Shoigu
Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey?
Hey, hey
Egg the Egg, Ass on the Ass
You can rape the ape, I know about that
There is one thing you must be sure of
I can't take anymore
Shoigu, don't you monkey with the Monkee
Hey, hey, hey
I hope this is true simply because the idea of Putin chimping out is funny, and worthless attacks that result in dead Russian SoF/SoF prisoners that can be tortured for intelligence will be kino.
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At a guess, IF it's all true, then these planes may have been much more important than previously imagined. Also, the Patriot theory seems valid, or some similar hack job by the Ukies would mean that monke's minions didn't have a friendly fire incident ... they just ran into more advanced capabilities than they have been planning for. Several nasty surprises all at once, so not entirely "just a plane."
This is bullshit for several reasons. First of all they would never tell Monke news like this. Why would they? And Putin's geriatric body is unable to break piece of bread let alone chair.
>I want to believe
This is my head canon too.
Aside from the higher than usual incidence of BVR A2A going on, there was that thing with like 24 helos and 12 fixed wing the other day which we still don't really know if it was real or not.
NOT friendly fire. ukrop israelite-nazi warlocks mind controlled russian servicemen forcing russian military to make difficult decision. they will be avenged when exorcism repels ukrainian demon slaves
and this is a win how?
contesting the airspace over the sea of azov does nothing but waste missiles. it does not contest facts on the ground: russia already won.
>>will only accelerate when they get their f-16’s up in the skies
hmmmmm
then >>what we are seeing is the start if Ukraine gaining air superiority
The math checks out. In preparation for F-16s to be introduced into the theater, advanced capabilities in air defense would be very important to establish before any F-16s actually start to fly missions. Seems someone's being all clever about this.
Guys, I think it's just as funny as all of you watching Russia make a fool of itself. But Putin has nuclear weapons and is not afraid to use them. I think we need to stop the war now, and keep the borders as they are.
Some countries have the ground AA under the command of their nation's Air Force. I'm not sure if that is the case with Russia and Ukraine, but it could be. Literallywho dude on Telegram could also be mistake, but I could see it making sense if you're trying to avoid blue-on-blue by having the people flying planes also commanding anything that shoots up. Could also be just a weird post-soviet thing. Did you know Russia has TIGERS and the missile forces as its own Military Branch? Ye, theoretically the dudes launching ground iskanders are as separate from the ground forces as the Navy is.
>Some countries have the ground AA under the command of their nation's Air Force
most countries do, so they can integrate and deconflict better with fighters
https://i.imgur.com/h8puoLl.png
>Air Force
like most countries, long-range air defence is under the Ukrainian Air Force, with the exception of short-range Army systems like Strela
Some countries have the ground AA under the command of their nation's Air Force. I'm not sure if that is the case with Russia and Ukraine, but it could be. Literallywho dude on Telegram could also be mistake, but I could see it making sense if you're trying to avoid blue-on-blue by having the people flying planes also commanding anything that shoots up. Could also be just a weird post-soviet thing. Did you know Russia has TIGERS and the missile forces as its own Military Branch? Ye, theoretically the dudes launching ground iskanders are as separate from the ground forces as the Navy is.
In practice, idk how this actually works out.
Ukraine's air force controls both Aviation and Ground-Based air defense, don't know about russia
You realize that Russia mobilized 800 000 men who were "unwilling to fight" over a year ago? Right?
Russia having to mobilize before tiny Ukraine is beyond hilarious. Ukraine managing to staff it's army via volunteers and the usual annual intake of conscripts turning 18 merely adds to the hilarity.
Not to mention Russian morale is pretty shit. They don't even know WHY they're fighting. Ukrainians know. They're fighting to save their country and people from extermination.
So we’re just lying now?
Why should I believe a single thing you opine on when you so fundamentally lack any grasp of reality you’re denying something googlable lmao.
Actually Ukraine is the 2nd largest, but that isn't actually a good thing for Russia. It's bad. It's an enormous amount of territory to try to fricking hold in an occupation, which in turn forces Russia to divert troops away from battle to occupation duty.
You think a bunch of drunk, untrained rabble are going to be disciplined occupiers? No, they're going to be fricking barbarians. And those barbarians are going to die.
Precisely the point I wish to make. EVEN if the Russians "somehow" manage to defeat the Ukrainian military, whoever the frick isn't dead still has to suffer the boredom and hell of a brutal occupation against insurgents who blend right in with Russians.
Put bluntly, Russia is well and truly fricked.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah. They are fricked but talking about how fricked they are in an uncertain future scenario is not necessary as they are currently beyond fricked.
4 months ago
Anonymous
My advice is to the Ukrainians is to fight both kinds of war at the same time against the barbarian.
Russia cannot do occupation duty AND a conventional war at the same time, they don't have the manpower and competence to fight regulars AND insurgents.
Actually Ukraine is the 2nd largest, but that isn't actually a good thing for Russia. It's bad. It's an enormous amount of territory to try to fricking hold in an occupation, which in turn forces Russia to divert troops away from battle to occupation duty.
You think a bunch of drunk, untrained rabble are going to be disciplined occupiers? No, they're going to be fricking barbarians. And those barbarians are going to die.
Nobody denies the Russians are using meat waves. Ukrainians are too is kinda the whole point.
If the Ukies didn’t employ meatwaves we wouldn’t be awash with footage of unwilling mobiks getting dragged into unmarked vans on the streets of Odessa.
We’ve had an entire year and a half for Ukraine to capitalise on the victories at Kharkov and Kherson with nothing to show for it.
This is either a failure of Ukrainian command (i.e. just drive into the minefields lol) or it’s Russian competence at defence. Or it’s both. Either way I dont get the Ukraine ball fondling anymore. Kinda stops being funny simping for Ukraine when they’re making zero tactical gains against a supposedly demoralised starving Russian occupational force.
Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine because it's a frickton of territory. That means an enormous occupation.
And Russians are the worst kind of evil overlords you can unleash on a civilian population, which means Ukrainians are going to KILL their occupiers whenever they can.
>Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine because it's a frickton of territory. That means an enormous occupation
Maybe. But even England with it's tiny army would win the conventional fight, pretty easily too.
I don't see that ending well. Ukraine just needs to disperse its military across the civilian population early. No conventional war, it's a waste of time and effort. Insurgency immediately.
My point is, the British would ultimately lose. Too small an army against a determined population in a massive country.
4 months ago
Anonymous
My point is that's fricking irrelevant because to occupy you have to win, and Russians can't win. They are in a stalemate with Ukraine and that is beyond hilarious.
4 months ago
Anonymous
An insurgency in Ukraine would still allow Ukraine to attack Russians even in places they supposedly "control". It's why Russia was forced to send 35,000 of their national guard barbarians into the occupied territories.
>Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine
Do non-Americans really?
Give the 2nd MEF two weeks and reasonable ROE and they’ll conquer Ukraine and Russia. Get the other branches involved and it’ll be a ROFLSTOMP before the grunts even get a confirmed kill
>who is supremely incompetent, the supremely incompetent, or the one being mogged by the "supremely incompetent"?
that would be the army more than 3 times larger and with air and naval supremacy yet being slowly pushed out of Ukraine, mongoloid
Russia clearly doesn’t have air or naval supremacy otherwise the Moskva wouldn’t be a submarine and they wouldn’t be resorting to using glide bombs dropped from like 6 gorillion miles behind the front.
Precisely the point I wish to make. EVEN if the Russians "somehow" manage to defeat the Ukrainian military, whoever the frick isn't dead still has to suffer the boredom and hell of a brutal occupation against insurgents who blend right in with Russians.
Put bluntly, Russia is well and truly fricked.
What insurgency? Ukraine’s a gigantic open landmass of fields and the Russians have demonstrated they’re pretty happy to just deport anyone unwilling.
Mariupol by all rights should be a complete death trap for the patrolling Russian MP.
>Russia clearly doesn’t have air or naval supremacy
the point is, they started the war with
now, the balance has certainly shifted after 1 cruiser, 1 submarine, 2 corvettes, 3 landing ships, 80 fighter-bombers and oh yeah 1 AWACS >bliss
have been lost
If the win condition is that Ukraine remains an independent sovereign state then we’ve already conceded that Russia can be allowed to grow in territory out of this war.
We’ve gone from; total zigger withdrawal to the 1991 borders
To: okay but just the 2021 borders now
To: they can have that territory not like we wanted it back anyway
It’s flip flopped messaging. Is this an existential war? Or are we just fricking around a little. Do we really give a shit about the territorial integrity of Ukraine at all costs? Or is it just a big of a meme we’re bored with now.
>Russia clearly doesn’t have air or naval supremacy
the point is, they started the war with
now, the balance has certainly shifted after 1 cruiser, 1 submarine, 2 corvettes, 3 landing ships, 80 fighter-bombers and oh yeah 1 AWACS >bliss
have been lost
They started the war with neither. They operated as if they did but if they had either naval or air supremacy we wouldn’t have been flooded with downed KA 52s.
>we wouldn’t have been flooded with downed KA 52s
a lot of that came from NATO arms shipments
to be fair to the RuAF, they did a halfway decent job of grinding down the AFU IADS; without external assistance, they would have completed the job. not without losses, but it would have been accomplished eventually
Cope however you want. Putins express goal is the seizure of the Ukranian state. Thus, so long as the state survives Russia is failing to meet it's primary war goals and is thus losing.
>Is this an existential war?
Not for the west, no. >Or are we just fricking around a little
Yes. This should not surprise you, the west has not needed to be serious about war for a lifetime, it's forgotten how. >Do we really give a shit about the territorial integrity of Ukraine
Not really, it's a "nice to have" >at all costs?
Lol no >Or is it just a big of a meme we’re bored with now.
Yeah pretty much. Once Ukraine made it obvious with their June offensive that they couldn't win even with western kit, the west lost interest.
>pretty much. Once Ukraine made it obvious with their June offensive that they couldn't win even with western kit, the west lost interest
Okay Rimdesh. Sure thing.
>the west lost interest
Which means western governments now have free hand to continue aid to Ukraine indefinitely, and are committed to doing just that.
$20 says the Russian AA is spooked and now shoots at everything which will end up in hilarious incidents in the coming days. Then command shuts it all down as a safety measure. Then the Storm Shadows come.
Honestly this. Either the Russians are trigger happy because they fear something or they'll be scared shitless to shoot at anything in case they might get Gulag'd. I hope Ukraine has a strategy for exploiting this.
Literally chink tier enemy casualty inflation.
Exchange rate is more than likely 1:1 at this point. Especially in the more moronic misadventures of the AFU like the Dnipro crossing or the counterattack on Akhmut.
Someone in Ukrainian high command genuinely thought it would be a really good idea to - instead of concentrating on a breakthrough in Zaprozhia, send a few human waves to die in Akhmut because the headlines would make people onions out.
>both Priggy and regular Russians squealing that Bakhmut was a Pyrrhic victory >this Black person thinks it's the AFU doing the dying
you do realise that at this point you're sucking more copium than the very worst of Russian propagandists?
Vampire Six, is that you?
You’re memoryholing the entire Ukrainian counter offensive at Bakhmut.
With the assault towards Tokmak underway the big brains in Ukrainian command diverted troops towards Bakhmut for a complete failure of a counter offensive to retake the city. It was a slaughter. NATO advisers have slammed it as a complete failure which is probably why it’s been memoryholed so fast.
>moronic misadventures of the AFU like the Dnipro crossing
anon, Russians are sending waves after waves of men to try and dislodge the AFU from their postion, with the Ukies having artillery on the high ground on the other side of the river. The crossing was an excellent diversion.
The crossing was an excellent diversion for a good month or so. We’re now mid January and the AFU are still bussing waves of convicts across in slow moving ribs to reinforce sustained losses. What the frick are they even doing there?
Russian telegrams claim they’re sent there as some kind of punishment for drunk/asleep at post which is believable when you see the vids of them desperately scrambling out of those fricking ribs the moment a chink drone buzzes overhead.
>and the AFU are still bussing waves of convicts across in slow moving ribs to reinforce sustained losses
Is this supposed to be some kind of own when Russia is documented on record as sending literally tens of thousands of rapists and murderers into combat as meat shields, and then paroling some afterwards?
I am continually surprised at the utter fricking delusion of zigger shills. "Projection" doesn't even begin to describe it. Whatever is happening to Russia, you morons will say it's ackshually happening 10x worse to the Ukrainians, without fail.
>moronic misadventures of the AFU like the Dnipro crossing
anon, Russians are sending waves after waves of men to try and dislodge the AFU from their postion, with the Ukies having artillery on the high ground on the other side of the river. The crossing was an excellent diversion.
>Nobody can honestly watch vids like this and genuinely believe these are well trained volunteers.
Trained by Royal Marines and Scandi Marines and the training pipeline is still open. So yeah, trained.
>Why
Footholds for expansion are useful >Suicide
I think the trade ratio is in their favor. Hence they stick to it.
If RM training surmounts to “when you come under fire stop dead in the water and check on your wounded” then we truly have become a joke of a nation. Half of these drone drop rib vids show the coxswains freak out or deer in the headlights tier stop dead in their tracks for the Russian drone operator to land another hit on the rib.
Guess the term ‘marine’ really has lost all meaning.
https://i.imgur.com/01jHods.png
[...]
can you perchance explain to me why whole VDV brigade, supported by several regular motorized brigade to this day cannot take Krynky from 300 men?
Swamp conditions probably makes armour completely useless but the Russians kept trying because that’s how slavshits operate.
Also when the incursion initially happened Russia sperged out and sent reserves, again because slavshit mentality. Ukrainians then double down, even when the advantage is lost because they too are slavshits.
And yet this "braindead manoeuvre" so far has resulted in a solid bridgehead being secured while killing somewhere around 5-10 ziggers for every ukrainian loss in these supposed "suicide missions". Curious.
>The Dnipro crossing literally looks like death
Yes. For the Russians.
>If Russia is so shit why is Ukraine mobilising half a million more unwilling men to fight a gruelling attritional war? >if russia is so shit why is it in an attrition war with Ukraine >if russia is so shit why is it in an attrition war with its own former satellite state >russia is shit
Great, another thread I was excited to read only to find you guys can't help yourself replying to concern trolling bait (off topic also btw) and ruining it
>avoided a missile
B-BUT HATO SAID THAT JET MANEUVERABILITY IS A MEME…
No.
We said that being able to dump all your airspeed and energy in some silly airshow maneuver is a meme.
>We said that being able to dump all your airspeed and energy in some silly airshow maneuver is a meme.
no you stupuid homosexuals spent an entire thread telling me that an f22 using thrust vectoring "flippity-flops" to aim its radar at a target was "good",
and any Russian plane doing any "flippity-flops" was bad, shit even
so which is it?
I'll make it easy for you, vatnik.
If its done by western forces its good. If its done by russhits, mudslimes or chinks its garbage.
Comprende?
No, literally nobody ever said that. But you screeched over multiple threads trying to force this strawman, you're the only one who does which makes you super easy to identify lmao.
hey, guess what? Russia is shit, their military gear is shit, their planes are shit and (you) are shit. The Russian military is the second best in Ukraine. Learn your fricking place. Russia shitboxes do not now and have not since the 1960s been competition to western gear and never will again and only were because of the USSR and WW2 lease lend and German science.
Awe babe dont get emotional about it. Im sure the russians will just get bored and leave if you present the ass
Oh hi there Big homosexual, didn't see you at first, although I did smell you.
You're arguing semantics, probably because you receive crypto deposits from nu-Wagner.
You realize "turning away promptly and at speed" is different from airshow "1080° Falling Cobra Reverse No Ollie McKick-Flip Supreme," but they cam both be called "maneuvers," right?
have a nice day dogfricker.
The cobra maneuver is a flashy move with no utility in real combat outside of only a couple of very specific situations. Using thrust vectoring to aim a radar is good, but a newer radar with better beam steering would be better. Unfortunately the F-22 won't be getting an upgrade because the F-35 is replacing it in some roles.
B-b-but pugachev's cobra looks awesome!
>The plane was over the sea of Azov
That doesn't rule out it is now underneath the sea of Azov. It's "evasive measures" not explicitly "successful evasive measures".
If you are able to keep your momentum it is very useful. Cobra, Flatspin and god knows what else third worlders think is amazing, are completely pointless though.
>Su-34
>maneuverable
moron
It's a Flanker. It can go fast and pull G. Which is what maneuverability is in BVR.
>Su-34
>pull G
moron
>>Su-34
Sir, radar returns an XBOXHUEG Su-27!
>Su-34
>maneuverable
If Buzz thinks he is a Space Ranger and not a toy, why doesn't he talk to Andy and the kids when they open him up?
that's a good fricking point
I thought it was because toys pretty much go immobile and unconscious, even involuntarily, when actual humans look at them. They can only move at that point if they know of the effect and consciously resist it.
Someone who doesn't know of being a toy also wouldn't know of the effect, and therefore cannot move, while Woody, a long time toy, knows full well of the effect and can turn it off at will (1st movie when he traumatized that one child).
Star Command training.
The first thing he does is greet the toys as a Space Ranger so that doesn't track.
BVR defensive maneuvers and moron airshow maneuvers are two entirely different concepts
If you can be seen at 100+ miles out you already fricked up the most important part of being a fighter jet.
You need high EM performance a la F-15 or F-16 to dodge missiles in BVR, not high AoA airshow tricks a la Su-27 or F/A-18. Though truth be told the Su-27 platform has very good EM performance, the vatnigs just choose to shill the moronic tricks.
>he thinks "evasive measures" is having a higher rate of turn than the missile
Google "defensive bvr" and "defensive notching".
Clearly you are better off in a fighter than an airliner so there is always a use for high instantanious turn rate and high sustained turn rate but being able to turrn harder than the other fighter matters a lot less than you missile having higher energy when it gets to him.
slow fat stealth dorito missile trucks are the future whether you like it or not.
no amount of speed and agility will save you from a shitload of missiles shot out of nowhere.
You do know that su-34 is a massive bomber version of the su-27 right?
It's the size of an f-111 aardvark
It's not some super maneuverable fighter
>eggs measures
>eyebrows raised
>sun: shining sinfully
>chairs: broken
I'm not sure putin is in chair-breaking shape anymore. maybe he knocked one over, but this feels like propaganda.
Even morbidly obese burgers are able to break chairs.
morbidly obese burgers pay $5 for chairs from walmart. I assume chairs putin might sit on are chosen not to disintegrate under unusual loads
>I assume chairs putin might sit on are chosen not to disintegrate under unusual loads
Putin made his first millions as part of the group that redecorated and renovated the Kremlin under Yeltsin. How much do you think those chairs really cost?
Its a big step down from when propaganda was him riding horses topless and judoing people.
Now the propaganda is great leader is mighty enough to break chair during tantrum!
>*Wait till he learns learn about Putin throwing pen in anger*
https://en.topcor.ru/14832-germanskaja-pressa-putin-shvyrnul-ruchku-jeto-ukazyvaet-na-krizis-v-rossii.html
Or maybe a random vatnik heard about this, got angry and said big things on social media to cope with reality.
>I'm not sure putin is in chair-breaking shape anymore. maybe he knocked one over, but this feels like propaganda.
Covid is in a third wave in Eastern Europe, Shoigu would have to quarantine for a week to see monke in person.
Correct. He got Shoigu to break the chairs and slap himself for intimidation. Their relationship is literally that of Deidranna and Elliot from JA2 at this point.
The thought of that old c**t getting angry and breaking furniture makes me chuckle
Your areospace...
has the AIDS condition
> raughs
Maybe he should start whipping the sea.
>Steinervitch's attack on Kharkiv will turn the war
>Mein Monke...
glove status: disintegrated
eyebrow status: in orbit
chair status: broken
Please report the status of asses.
The ass is in the ass
Would
kicked
Rectum faces deep penetration by enemy forces; Sigmoid colon still holding out
The penis has become ass.
Woodcarver status?
The asses inside the asses have been fulled with shells.
Imagine dying because you got shelled by someone's improvised dildo.
As we commit Ivan's earthly remains to the earth, we say together those ancient, poignant words: "Asses to asses, lust to lust." In these words, we acknowledge the cycle of ass and eggs, the interconnectedness of all living things. From the lust we come, and to the ass, we shall return.
>"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. We stick the dumb Vatnik in the Earth's crust."
Status of ass is unknown but available data suggests it is currently located deep inside the ass
is this the same as eyebrow status being raised, gloves status being off, snot status being chewed?
hohols have run deep. our asses our biting. who would be laughing now?
>special forces sent to Kharkov
I can't wait for yet another "collapse of Ukrainian lines" followed by declaration "we didn't need that."
They’re going to get ventilated by Trench Rambo like last year.
>special forces sent to Kharkov
oh god, they've finally sending in the autistic brigade
Thanks for telling us your spec ops are coming to Kharkiv, you Vatnik idiots.
Did they just announce in a public app that they are going to Kharkiv? Is this the modern day mincemeat or are they this incompetent?
Yup. They did. Thanks for letting us know, Muscowvites. So much for OPSEC.
Idiots. And they think Ukrainians (pictured here in Vatnik propaganda) are the inbred hicks.
Isn't there a fresh div in Kharkiv? Where are the abrams again?
Not sure. My guess? Putin's tantrum has made him demand an unnecessary action (i.e send spec ops into the meat-grinder to die).
However because the idiot has zero OPSEC, we know the spec ops are coming. They'll all be blasted to hell before they even REACH Kharkiv. Ukrainian precision missiles will be on them like Harley on Batman.
Post-script: is this anti-Ukrainian propaganda or fat fetish porn? Those bellies are rendered excessively well.
Russian bears love bears.
>Big daddy Ukrainian
>Russian femboi mobik
It writes itself.
All the Russian feboy mobiks are dead. There are only middleaged men and the scrapings of prisons left
No the spoiled femboi brats of Moscow still exist. They will fill the harems of Kyiv post-war.
Bing create is really something huh
Just needs a version where the bus is full of submissive Russian femboi captures, on the way back to Kyiv and the big Ukrainians spanking them.
>The russsian barbarian was defeated. We returned with the spoils of the war. At least a division's worth of Russian fembois. We loaded them en masse into multiple vehicles, returning to Kyiv with our loose prizes."
But seriously, telling us special forces are coming to Kharkiv well in advance is pure idiocy.
Whats the propaganda value of suggesting that Ukraines top WoW players are enlisting to defend their country?
Honestly, besides NSFW thoughts, this propaganda mainly reminds me of the gigantic Russian general Russia dragged out of retirement.
Drone operators either look like that or cute teenage girls. No exceptions.
>Fat military guy in uniform
Hot.
Where do I find these cute teenage drone operators?
No you idiots. This is obviously just more Russian macho copium. Putin didn't give a single shit and nothing is going to change. Except the vatnik crowd must be pleased somehow so they are saving face by saying "Putin *FEELS* your anger as well, your voices are heard, we will give dem ukes what foe!"
Ding ding ding.
This, it’s the ultimate Russian cope. The tsar knows and he cares!
>"Okay, Shoigu has entered the Kremlin for this week's brie-"
>"BAH GAWD, IT'S PUTIN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!!"
>Watch out watch out watch out watch out
>OOOOOHHH
>Kremlin meetings played as WWE dramas
Until this point I had trouble understanding the appeal of show wrestling but now I totally get it.
>Putin is Vince
>The Kremlin is the corporation
>Shoigu is The Rock
>Prigo is (was) Mankind
All of Russia is nothing but the backdrop for an alternate timeline in which Mankind pussied out and lost against The Rock. It all makes sense now.
>IT'S ME, AUSTIN!
>awww, cyka blyat
IT WAS ME LLOYD AUSTIN!
Don't you know you'd better.....shock the Putin.
Cover me, when I run
Cover me, through gun fire
Something shot down my plane Now I'm quoting Bane
Cover Me, Air Defense Please
Hey, hey, hey
Shoigu , Shoigu , Shoigu
Don't you know you're going to shock the monkey?
Hey, hey
Egg the Egg, Ass on the Ass
You can rape the ape, I know about that
There is one thing you must be sure of
I can't take anymore
Shoigu, don't you monkey with the Monkee
Hey, hey, hey
How long until we get Downfall parodies with Putin?
Already a thing
About a year ago.
t-that was 2 years ago, anon
Sigh updated
>Crests
Peaked
>Forelock
Squared
>Gloves
Off
>Eyebrow
Raised
>Great Leader
Spoken
>Bear
Awoken
>Tuvan
Shrugged
>Ass
Ass
>Missile
Ass
>Button
Observed
>Balls
Scratched
>Red line
Approached
>Things
Known
>Conclusions
Drawn
>Hedgehog
Aggravated
>Hands
Washed
>Potatoes
Peeled
>Eggs
Measured
>Banan
Demanded
>Coconuts
Corroded
>Cauldron
Simmering
>Chef
Complicated
>Axis
Worked
>Cum Bank
Climbed
>Vertical
Stengthened
>Mobiks
Cubed
>wieners
Disposable
>Brown line
Crossed
>Sun
Fricked
>Goodwill
Gestured
>Rooster
Pecking
>Alligator
Endangered
>Grad
Bloomed
>Preliminary
Tested
>Tatar
Chumped
>Result
Out the Window
>Chair
Broken
>Die
Will be good
>Flight
Eternal
>Munitions?
Rubbered
Scamorovich sold them rubber boolits again?
Oh buddy do I have a tail, ahem, for you.
See
>>Die
>Will be good
>throwing chairs
Is this what Putin looks like now?
Frick, forgot pic.
The chairs have been broken.
Everyone will understand everything.
I hope this is true simply because the idea of Putin chimping out is funny, and worthless attacks that result in dead Russian SoF/SoF prisoners that can be tortured for intelligence will be kino.
This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair. This chair.
If this is real the historical implications are massive
My high school hockey coach threw a bucket on the ice and then hit the ref with a chair one time.
Why did he get angry for just a plane?
At a guess, IF it's all true, then these planes may have been much more important than previously imagined. Also, the Patriot theory seems valid, or some similar hack job by the Ukies would mean that monke's minions didn't have a friendly fire incident ... they just ran into more advanced capabilities than they have been planning for. Several nasty surprises all at once, so not entirely "just a plane."
Is that Shoigu catching the chair?
This is bullshit for several reasons. First of all they would never tell Monke news like this. Why would they? And Putin's geriatric body is unable to break piece of bread let alone chair.
My sides in orbit.
large if factual
Air defence at work. Piggery will not dare fly above the Azov sea any more.
Azovespool is closed because of aids
Nah.
It’s closed to AIDS, read as: Russians
I want to believe
They were supposed to get them any day now in late December. Plus the additional Patriot donations.
>David Axe
>additional patriots
Well they did. German sent some over just before new year.
It is probably just the patriots. They moved two to the front and are taking potshots at Russian aviation.
>David Axewound
>David Axetogrind
>some ukrainian madlad is barreling over the front line in his F-16 and lobbing AMRAAMs at everything that moves
I think I popped a chub.
HIGHWAY
Top gun was f14's not f16's.
American planes look good in Ukrainian colors.
>I want to believe
This is my head canon too.
Aside from the higher than usual incidence of BVR A2A going on, there was that thing with like 24 helos and 12 fixed wing the other day which we still don't really know if it was real or not.
Wait
Explain to me why it couldn't be?
Why is this not a legitimate possibility?
Yeah... the Russian cope about friendly fire taking down their C3/C2 assets is bullshit if this is still happening
The mighty bear has mastered the art of the aileron roll. Owari da
why is russia still friendly-firing its own planes?
>why is russia still friendly-firing its own planes?
How else do you expect them to shoot down anything?
NOT friendly fire. ukrop israelite-nazi warlocks mind controlled russian servicemen forcing russian military to make difficult decision. they will be avenged when exorcism repels ukrainian demon slaves
>Patriots
>bradleys
>f-16’s
>abrams
The late Cold War dream team is facing off against Russia.
and this is a win how?
contesting the airspace over the sea of azov does nothing but waste missiles. it does not contest facts on the ground: russia already won.
>we didn't need air superiority anyway
Shazam posting should be dead and buried already and yet I still have an irresistible urge to kneel
you are a moron
>Russia already won
Clicking your ruby slippers three times doesn't send you to Kansas, Dorothy. You want the silver ones.
That is the copingest cope that ever coped ! You'll be sacked for sure for this crap Ramesh!
Post hand. You sound like a 2nd gen spic
> 3 more days before the ass is in the ass
>mfw realizing what we are seeing is the start if Ukraine gaining air superiority
>will only accelerate when they get their f-16’s up in the skies
>>will only accelerate when they get their f-16’s up in the skies
hmmmmm
then
>>what we are seeing is the start if Ukraine gaining air superiority
The math checks out. In preparation for F-16s to be introduced into the theater, advanced capabilities in air defense would be very important to establish before any F-16s actually start to fly missions. Seems someone's being all clever about this.
>had to evade
I thought Russian EW is second to none. Why would they need to evade
Ukraine says...
More Ghost of Kiev tier nonsense for gullible halfwits
behind every ghost of kiev hides the s-300 operator of moscow
>muh ghost of kiev
ziggers being butthurt about that 2 years later is lulzy af.
>ghost of kiev
SAY HIS NAME
Samir Hydavich
You mean Semen Hydenko?
Russians are probably killing each other, again.
Russian command and control is absolute moron level. The orc name for Russians is spot on.
Just a friendly anti-air group having a laugh and bantering with the planes, nothing to worry about, it's normal in Russia.
but how? what's ukraine using?
>inb4 it wasnt ukraine the RF AA forces are at war with RF Air forces
S200, obviously
soon.....
Guys, I think it's just as funny as all of you watching Russia make a fool of itself. But Putin has nuclear weapons and is not afraid to use them. I think we need to stop the war now, and keep the borders as they are.
No way. Not till a horde of Russian fembois are being transported back to Kyiv as the Russian military surrenders en masse in defeat.
Hey Alexa, play Ain’t a Bad Day by Hardy
bump
forgot photo
>Air Force
Some countries have the ground AA under the command of their nation's Air Force. I'm not sure if that is the case with Russia and Ukraine, but it could be. Literallywho dude on Telegram could also be mistake, but I could see it making sense if you're trying to avoid blue-on-blue by having the people flying planes also commanding anything that shoots up. Could also be just a weird post-soviet thing. Did you know Russia has TIGERS and the missile forces as its own Military Branch? Ye, theoretically the dudes launching ground iskanders are as separate from the ground forces as the Navy is.
In practice, idk how this actually works out.
>Some countries have the ground AA under the command of their nation's Air Force
most countries do, so they can integrate and deconflict better with fighters
like most countries, long-range air defence is under the Ukrainian Air Force, with the exception of short-range Army systems like Strela
Ukraine's air force controls both Aviation and Ground-Based air defense, don't know about russia
>Ukraine mobilizing half a million
B-but I thought Ukraine was out of men?
Russia is the 2nd strongest military in the world against Ukraine the 22nd strongest. Ukraine is expected to struggle, Russia isn't.
You realize that Russia mobilized 800 000 men who were "unwilling to fight" over a year ago? Right?
Russia having to mobilize before tiny Ukraine is beyond hilarious. Ukraine managing to staff it's army via volunteers and the usual annual intake of conscripts turning 18 merely adds to the hilarity.
Not to mention Russian morale is pretty shit. They don't even know WHY they're fighting. Ukrainians know. They're fighting to save their country and people from extermination.
>You might have memory holed the counter offensive
You seem to have memory holed the two offensives before that.
>Ukraine is the 2nd biggest country in Europe
9th, behind such titans as Spain and Italy.
Next cope?
So we’re just lying now?
Why should I believe a single thing you opine on when you so fundamentally lack any grasp of reality you’re denying something googlable lmao.
>Size
>Not population
Lol. Lmao even.
It's an enormous landmass, and that will save Ukraine more than anything else. It's too much territory to try to hold.
You think if Ukraine formally surrendered, that surrender would last with the way Russians behave against civilians?
What may or may not happen during occupation is irrelevant. The source of mockery is Russias inability to beat them in a CONVENTIONAL fight.
Russia isn't losing because of an insurgency. They are losing because they can't win battles.
Precisely the point I wish to make. EVEN if the Russians "somehow" manage to defeat the Ukrainian military, whoever the frick isn't dead still has to suffer the boredom and hell of a brutal occupation against insurgents who blend right in with Russians.
Put bluntly, Russia is well and truly fricked.
Yeah. They are fricked but talking about how fricked they are in an uncertain future scenario is not necessary as they are currently beyond fricked.
My advice is to the Ukrainians is to fight both kinds of war at the same time against the barbarian.
Russia cannot do occupation duty AND a conventional war at the same time, they don't have the manpower and competence to fight regulars AND insurgents.
>It's an enormous landmass
It's smaller than Texas
>moving the goalpost
Goalposts in place. Ability to fight and win battles is driven by manpower and economics not by the number of empty fields you have.
Cope more.
>admits he had to change his argument entirely
Concession accepted.
Initial statement
>It’s the 2nd largest country in Europe besides Russia, with a claimed prewar population of like 40+ million.
Reference to: POPULATION
This statement is incorrect, it's the 9th largest. You got blown the frick out and pivoted to landmass. Measure eggs, homosexual.
>Fregoli delusion
See?
Cope however you must.
>no rebuttal
Done.
So you're a new anon who jumped into an argument about population and "won" the argument by talking about landmass?
don't argue with browns just remind them to stop shitting on the street and move on
it's all we can do
You responded to a brown who is currently simping for Russia.
>Includes Svalbard and Jan Mayen
>Not Queen Maud Land
Actually Ukraine is the 2nd largest, but that isn't actually a good thing for Russia. It's bad. It's an enormous amount of territory to try to fricking hold in an occupation, which in turn forces Russia to divert troops away from battle to occupation duty.
You think a bunch of drunk, untrained rabble are going to be disciplined occupiers? No, they're going to be fricking barbarians. And those barbarians are going to die.
>2nd largest country in Europe
Basically the worst place for even a massive army to try to seize.
And a military can be strong in sheer numbers and resources, but otherwise completely inept. Russia has been reduced to meat waves.
They had to mobilize before the Ukranians did. This will never not be funny.
Nobody denies the Russians are using meat waves. Ukrainians are too is kinda the whole point.
If the Ukies didn’t employ meatwaves we wouldn’t be awash with footage of unwilling mobiks getting dragged into unmarked vans on the streets of Odessa.
We’ve had an entire year and a half for Ukraine to capitalise on the victories at Kharkov and Kherson with nothing to show for it.
This is either a failure of Ukrainian command (i.e. just drive into the minefields lol) or it’s Russian competence at defence. Or it’s both. Either way I dont get the Ukraine ball fondling anymore. Kinda stops being funny simping for Ukraine when they’re making zero tactical gains against a supposedly demoralised starving Russian occupational force.
>Awash
Friendly reminder: Ukraine has not mobilized yet, Russia has (twice).
>le both sides
Russia collapse is inevitable and so is putins spincter getting gadaffied by a bayonet
Azov Sea's closed due to AIDS (AMRAAM Intercept Descent Syndrome).
>Russia IS the 2nd military in the world or isn’t
When people say that, it's with a mocking tone. Russia can't beat Ukraine. This is beyond pathetic.
Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine because it's a frickton of territory. That means an enormous occupation.
And Russians are the worst kind of evil overlords you can unleash on a civilian population, which means Ukrainians are going to KILL their occupiers whenever they can.
>Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine because it's a frickton of territory. That means an enormous occupation
Maybe. But even England with it's tiny army would win the conventional fight, pretty easily too.
>Tiny army in 2nd largest country in Europe
I don't see that ending well. Ukraine just needs to disperse its military across the civilian population early. No conventional war, it's a waste of time and effort. Insurgency immediately.
>Conceding that a conventional victory would be ezpz for even tiny England
I rest my case.
My point is, the British would ultimately lose. Too small an army against a determined population in a massive country.
My point is that's fricking irrelevant because to occupy you have to win, and Russians can't win. They are in a stalemate with Ukraine and that is beyond hilarious.
An insurgency in Ukraine would still allow Ukraine to attack Russians even in places they supposedly "control". It's why Russia was forced to send 35,000 of their national guard barbarians into the occupied territories.
>Even a COMPETENT army would struggle to defeat & conquer Ukraine
Do non-Americans really?
Give the 2nd MEF two weeks and reasonable ROE and they’ll conquer Ukraine and Russia. Get the other branches involved and it’ll be a ROFLSTOMP before the grunts even get a confirmed kill
>who is supremely incompetent, the supremely incompetent, or the one being mogged by the "supremely incompetent"?
that would be the army more than 3 times larger and with air and naval supremacy yet being slowly pushed out of Ukraine, mongoloid
Russia clearly doesn’t have air or naval supremacy otherwise the Moskva wouldn’t be a submarine and they wouldn’t be resorting to using glide bombs dropped from like 6 gorillion miles behind the front.
What insurgency? Ukraine’s a gigantic open landmass of fields and the Russians have demonstrated they’re pretty happy to just deport anyone unwilling.
Mariupol by all rights should be a complete death trap for the patrolling Russian MP.
I think it’s a complete LARP.
>Deport anyway
INTO Russia itself? That's like battling drug cartels in Mexico by sending them inside your own country's borders.
>Russia clearly doesn’t have air or naval supremacy
the point is, they started the war with
now, the balance has certainly shifted after 1 cruiser, 1 submarine, 2 corvettes, 3 landing ships, 80 fighter-bombers and oh yeah 1 AWACS
>bliss
have been lost
Ukraine still isn't fricking winning this war!
Them existing is, per Putins stated war aims, them winning.
If the win condition is that Ukraine remains an independent sovereign state then we’ve already conceded that Russia can be allowed to grow in territory out of this war.
We’ve gone from; total zigger withdrawal to the 1991 borders
To: okay but just the 2021 borders now
To: they can have that territory not like we wanted it back anyway
It’s flip flopped messaging. Is this an existential war? Or are we just fricking around a little. Do we really give a shit about the territorial integrity of Ukraine at all costs? Or is it just a big of a meme we’re bored with now.
They started the war with neither. They operated as if they did but if they had either naval or air supremacy we wouldn’t have been flooded with downed KA 52s.
Uh, Putin isn't going to accept your "partial" surrender. He wants ALL of your country. He's a madman.
>we wouldn’t have been flooded with downed KA 52s
a lot of that came from NATO arms shipments
to be fair to the RuAF, they did a halfway decent job of grinding down the AFU IADS; without external assistance, they would have completed the job. not without losses, but it would have been accomplished eventually
Cope however you want. Putins express goal is the seizure of the Ukranian state. Thus, so long as the state survives Russia is failing to meet it's primary war goals and is thus losing.
>Is this an existential war?
Not for the west, no.
>Or are we just fricking around a little
Yes. This should not surprise you, the west has not needed to be serious about war for a lifetime, it's forgotten how.
>Do we really give a shit about the territorial integrity of Ukraine
Not really, it's a "nice to have"
>at all costs?
Lol no
>Or is it just a big of a meme we’re bored with now.
Yeah pretty much. Once Ukraine made it obvious with their June offensive that they couldn't win even with western kit, the west lost interest.
>pretty much. Once Ukraine made it obvious with their June offensive that they couldn't win even with western kit, the west lost interest
Okay Rimdesh. Sure thing.
>the west lost interest
Which means western governments now have free hand to continue aid to Ukraine indefinitely, and are committed to doing just that.
So you're deluded as well as illiterate.
What HATO wonder weapon is doing this?
vodka
>Old ladies
Teach them how to build IEDs, and no one will suspect them.
$20 says the Russian AA is spooked and now shoots at everything which will end up in hilarious incidents in the coming days. Then command shuts it all down as a safety measure. Then the Storm Shadows come.
Honestly this. Either the Russians are trigger happy because they fear something or they'll be scared shitless to shoot at anything in case they might get Gulag'd. I hope Ukraine has a strategy for exploiting this.
>muh unwilling men
LMAO, Ukraine STILL hasn't drafted a single non-reservist.
>gruelling attritional war
That it sure is. For Russia. LMAO.
Butchering the ziggers at a rate of 5-10:1 is "incompetence" now? LMAO.
Well "special ops" are on the way to Kharkiv, so with their "total element of surprise" (ruined) I am sure they'll turn things around.
Literally chink tier enemy casualty inflation.
Exchange rate is more than likely 1:1 at this point. Especially in the more moronic misadventures of the AFU like the Dnipro crossing or the counterattack on Akhmut.
Someone in Ukrainian high command genuinely thought it would be a really good idea to - instead of concentrating on a breakthrough in Zaprozhia, send a few human waves to die in Akhmut because the headlines would make people onions out.
>both Priggy and regular Russians squealing that Bakhmut was a Pyrrhic victory
>this Black person thinks it's the AFU doing the dying
you do realise that at this point you're sucking more copium than the very worst of Russian propagandists?
Vampire Six, is that you?
You’re memoryholing the entire Ukrainian counter offensive at Bakhmut.
With the assault towards Tokmak underway the big brains in Ukrainian command diverted troops towards Bakhmut for a complete failure of a counter offensive to retake the city. It was a slaughter. NATO advisers have slammed it as a complete failure which is probably why it’s been memoryholed so fast.
The crossing was an excellent diversion for a good month or so. We’re now mid January and the AFU are still bussing waves of convicts across in slow moving ribs to reinforce sustained losses. What the frick are they even doing there?
Russian telegrams claim they’re sent there as some kind of punishment for drunk/asleep at post which is believable when you see the vids of them desperately scrambling out of those fricking ribs the moment a chink drone buzzes overhead.
>It was a slaughter
may we see it?
>NATO advisers have slammed it as a complete failure
doesn't equate to "a slaughter"
>the AFU are still bussing waves of convicts across
>Convicts
Oh, you're actually delusional.
>and the AFU are still bussing waves of convicts across in slow moving ribs to reinforce sustained losses
Is this supposed to be some kind of own when Russia is documented on record as sending literally tens of thousands of rapists and murderers into combat as meat shields, and then paroling some afterwards?
I am continually surprised at the utter fricking delusion of zigger shills. "Projection" doesn't even begin to describe it. Whatever is happening to Russia, you morons will say it's ackshually happening 10x worse to the Ukrainians, without fail.
>moronic misadventures of the AFU like the Dnipro crossing
anon, Russians are sending waves after waves of men to try and dislodge the AFU from their postion, with the Ukies having artillery on the high ground on the other side of the river. The crossing was an excellent diversion.
Due to AIDS
The infamous Bandera Triangle.
>Nobody can honestly watch vids like this and genuinely believe these are well trained volunteers.
Trained by Royal Marines and Scandi Marines and the training pipeline is still open. So yeah, trained.
>Why
Footholds for expansion are useful
>Suicide
I think the trade ratio is in their favor. Hence they stick to it.
If RM training surmounts to “when you come under fire stop dead in the water and check on your wounded” then we truly have become a joke of a nation. Half of these drone drop rib vids show the coxswains freak out or deer in the headlights tier stop dead in their tracks for the Russian drone operator to land another hit on the rib.
Guess the term ‘marine’ really has lost all meaning.
Swamp conditions probably makes armour completely useless but the Russians kept trying because that’s how slavshits operate.
Also when the incursion initially happened Russia sperged out and sent reserves, again because slavshit mentality. Ukrainians then double down, even when the advantage is lost because they too are slavshits.
>They aren't trained
>In my opinion
Beyond the confines of your skull your opinion bears absolutely zero weight.
>Swamp conditions
thanks for proving that you're literally moronic, there's no point of talking about anything else
>swamp conditions
Krynky is not a swamp, nor is it in one, you blithering moron.
>muh advatage is lost
Then how do they keep killing ziggers 5-10:1?
can you perchance explain to me why whole VDV brigade, supported by several regular motorized brigade to this day cannot take Krynky from 300 men?
And yet this "braindead manoeuvre" so far has resulted in a solid bridgehead being secured while killing somewhere around 5-10 ziggers for every ukrainian loss in these supposed "suicide missions". Curious.
>The Dnipro crossing literally looks like death
Yes. For the Russians.
>If Russia is so shit why is Ukraine mobilising half a million more unwilling men to fight a gruelling attritional war?
>if russia is so shit why is it in an attrition war with Ukraine
>if russia is so shit why is it in an attrition war with its own former satellite state
>russia is shit
Great, another thread I was excited to read only to find you guys can't help yourself replying to concern trolling bait (off topic also btw) and ruining it
There is an RQ-4B been up for a while now in the black sea. Hopefully they can see the wreckage
Btw, since this would get deleted as a seperate thread, can we all acknowladge the fact that coach redpill got gulaged to death?