AVE CAESAR

HIMARS is doing God's Work, but according to Russian milbloggers apparently it's the Caesar that's kicking the shit out of Russian artillery.
Other highlights, Russian artillery fires several hundred shots to achieve 1-2 hits and drones have made the russian system of massed artillery fires completely untenable.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Part 2 of 2

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have a question: can you fire a SPG on the move? If not, why not?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No.
        Recoil.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you CAN, you can't fire one accurately though

          I feel like I've seen something about ones that are currently in design being able to do that. Obviously you need some kind of targeting and stabilising system for it that locks the gun to where you want to fire while you move otherwise it's just going to go all over the place. I don't think anything in service yet can really do it effectively.

          Even if its slow enough you couldn't do it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That new German boxer, the RCH 155 can apparently.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Try to hit a target at 1000 yards, any rifle of your choice, while slow walking around said target. Should give an idea what an SPG has to deal with.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can, it just requires the computing within to be smart enough, it predicts the movement of the gun by analysing the movement of the wheels and hull, and since there's some time between the initial shock from the wheels getting through the suspension and then the gun suspension it can adjust the gun to expect the shock, and even with a decent amount of movement it will wait till the millisecond where it's actually aiming perfectly enough for a shot and then fire. This requires a fair amount of calibration but it can be done. AI inparticular could be pretty good at doing this for a modern gun when trained well on simulations, but we've had clever programming able to do it for a while in video games let alone real life that arguably is more reliable at this point in time as long as it's set up right with the variables all right too.

            It's a bit like when you're aiming down a long scope and you kind of wait for the right moment to take the shot as the reticule crosses over the target, before the overshoot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Look at how the Spade takes the rear wheels completely off the ground. The frame and suspension won't be able to handle it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think he meant specifically the caesar.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, then yeah the Boxer SPG can do just that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Even if you theoretically had the ability to trundle along at 2 mph and fire, you would practically choose to stop anyway. Even tanks will usually stop before firing, even if only for a moment.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There would be great difficulty in computing the target data while you're moving. Accuracy on target requires you to know exactly where you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're talking about the recoil of a frickhuge shell firing going directly down onto a truck bed
            Without the massive anchor arms they set down before firing, its going to blow out the fricking suspension and maybe even the tires unless the vehicle is specifically engineered for firing on the move
            Artillery is already a fine art form to hit anything though, adding the complications of you moving is just wasting shells

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you CAN, you can't fire one accurately though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Guided shells?
          That said the best thing I can think of is
          >Shoot and Scoot 2, Boom and Vroom

          >Arty truck is "technically" able to fire on the move but, obviously, this is hardly ideal.
          >Instead it begins the process of targeting and loading shells before the vehicle even comes to a halt, so the second it stops moving it can shit out a barrage and immediately start driving again the second the last shell leaves the barrel, folding back into stowage while it's moving

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it begins the process of targeting and loading shells before the vehicle even comes to a halt, so the second it stops moving it can shit out a barrage and immediately start driving again
            I know for a fact that the PzH2000 has the capability and would therefore be surprised if CEASER did not

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ceasar prob has the fire controll for it but not the autoloader. you also have to deploy the spade at the back of the vehicle for firing. but apart from that its a good shoot and scooter

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like I've seen something about ones that are currently in design being able to do that. Obviously you need some kind of targeting and stabilising system for it that locks the gun to where you want to fire while you move otherwise it's just going to go all over the place. I don't think anything in service yet can really do it effectively.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A guided missile launcher could fire on the move. As could a drone launcher for the same reason.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >A guided missile launcher could fire on the move.
          a hot launch while on the move sounds like a sure way to destroy the launcher

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >A guided missile launcher could fire on the move
          Webm or GTFO.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mostly they don't have the stabilizers for the fun and rely on anchoring themselves to the ground for stability.

        Some can because they are properly stabilized.

        Some can fire in movement but only straight ahead on a flat trajectory.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't it the main selling point of the new German thing they are making?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.
          Current plans is that Ukraine will get them in late 2025. We'll have to see if it actually works in such a conflict.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You "can", but you wouldn't hit anything and badly wreck your vehicle due to the recoil. The stabilizer things aren't there for show.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        RCH155 plans to battle test that later in the year

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty crazy that we can have live battle tests now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          RCH-155 will be delivered in a number of 35 right out of the new production line, I read. Hopefully they work well because they'd be ideal carriers of special 155mm ammo if they do.

          ?si=FzryEiyPOSOvdo7H
          Check out that fire on the move.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            kino, thanks for the link

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That looks really good.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/1BHURa7.jpeg

          RCH-155 will be delivered in a number of 35 right out of the new production line, I read. Hopefully they work well because they'd be ideal carriers of special 155mm ammo if they do.

          ?si=FzryEiyPOSOvdo7H
          Check out that fire on the move.

          Hopefully the Brits also send their new lazors to Ukraine for battle testing.
          What else could we send for battle testing? Sweden and Denmark ordered CV9035MLU for Ukraine, so they'll have a first run as a freshly modern IFV there.
          Panther tanks will probably be produced in Ukraine by Rheinmetall too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they don't need battle testing
            the only stuff being sent to Ukraine is stuff that, while current, there are replacements in the pipeline for so it doesn't matter if they're captured

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There's nothing wrong with battle testing, it's through that we've discovered that M777s are basically sitting ducks unless your air force can kill drone pilots faster than they can kill the artillery.
              Works out kinks, tests the viability of shit on the battlefield.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we've discovered that M777s are basically sitting ducks unless your air force can kill drone pilots faster than they can kill the artillery.
                we knew that already

                battlefield testing is nice, but not necessary; realistic exercises can work those kinks out as well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And artillery on wheels is better than towed or tracked artillery

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Need to anchor the gun or you’ll shoot maybe 3 rounds before it twists your chassis into duck penis

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OTRK?

      KBB? I assume that one is counter battery fire

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >OTRK?

        >OTRK
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks. Sorry for being moronic, I must have mistyped it when I ctrl+f'd the thread

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OTRK?

          KBB? I assume that one is counter battery fire

          https://i.imgur.com/1grTl3M.jpeg

          Part 2 of 2

          So KBB=Kounter Battery Bloodshed?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did military service in artillery (Finland) and I imagine what we were taught is extremely outdated by now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ukrainian military advisors will probably make lots of dosh off of improving European artillery forces in the future

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          by the time this ends russia will be in no shape to wage any kind of war. possibly ever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yea but down south you might need to do some border control.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You could have called the thread Render Unto Caesar. Disappointed.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would say its surprising that the Russians didn't permanently pivot away from their strategy of just spam firing 90% of their shells into fields back when they had their own ammo shortages issue before the NK infusion but they really just refuse to fricking learn anything until there are no other options, it is fricking surreal to watch from the sidelines.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We're very lucky they're so fricking stupid

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We're very lucky they're so fricking stupid

      They were hoping overwhelming fire superiority would either break Ukraine and allow them to possibly get primary and secondary objectives.
      If they stopped or reduced fire missions earlier, Ukraine would have gained fire superiority and they would have lost more land right away instead of months down the line. They were hoping they would be able to outpace Ukrainian aid by sheer production volume regardless, and that earlier victories would lead to later ones as their enemy would be degraded.

      It's not a bad idea either, it's just they didn't prepare this far ahead, and even if they did they propbaky couldn't have done anything different. They were damned early if they didn't use it, and they were damned later if they did.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They could always have not invaded Ukraine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Monke see, monke do.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They were hoping they would be able to outpace Ukrainian aid by sheer production volume regardless, and that earlier victories would lead to later ones as their enemy would be degraded.
        This is still a viable option, but it will take years and leave them with nothing salvageable in Ukraine and a derelict economy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you look at the pro-Russia twitter accounts or subreddits, the Russians have been using laser-guided krasnopol shells a lot more in the last couple of months.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      They were hoping overwhelming fire superiority would either break Ukraine and allow them to possibly get primary and secondary objectives.
      If they stopped or reduced fire missions earlier, Ukraine would have gained fire superiority and they would have lost more land right away instead of months down the line. They were hoping they would be able to outpace Ukrainian aid by sheer production volume regardless, and that earlier victories would lead to later ones as their enemy would be degraded.

      It's not a bad idea either, it's just they didn't prepare this far ahead, and even if they did they propbaky couldn't have done anything different. They were damned early if they didn't use it, and they were damned later if they did.

      Historically, weight of fire has been a winning tactics for Russia in war. Russians have loved artillery for a very long time and use it to make up for a lot of shortcomings elsewhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's the alternative? Their artillery is increasingly older and with more barrel wear, they're undoubtably experiencing personnel shortages and pushing less well trained crews to the front just to have enough warm bodies, and they must be issuing lower quality shells as they dig deeper into their ammunition stockpiles. I can't imagine what the average CEP is at this point. The only chance they have of advancing is to drown the Ukrainians under their weight of fire, That's been true since the summer of 2022.
      A one trick pony can't really choose not to use the trick.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This made me look up more artillery. The 2S35 that Russia intended on making their next self propelled arty was supposed to have a standard firing range of 40kms and a maximum firing range of 80kms. They actually just pulled that number out of their asses. That's wild. Also they should really stop pretending they can take on NATO if the caesar scares them. Most of NATO have self propelled guns with similar capabilities. And those that don't, have alternatives, like the US and UK.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >US
      >Don't
      If the GLGP round is actually still being talked about (this is the round originally meant for Railguns but it turns out it would make a decent artilly round in the M109A7) then the US has arty with a range of around 90km

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To add on to this
        https://insidedefense.com/insider/bae-says-it-fired-xm1155-sc-guided-projectile-record-distance
        not sure how trustworthy BAE saying they launched the round a record undisclosed distance means tbh, from what i've seen the round's predecessor managed 110km from a railgun though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >90km
        >110km
        what's the time to target for something like that you reckon?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          long enough for me to finish off your mum and have a smoke

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ya but only legs get to use the paladin, im stuck here with towed bullshit

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Time to apologize /k/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lust provoking image, irrelevant time wasting question

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good system. But its a French system.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to need a decode, Anon
    >verification not required

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Caesar is so great then why did the U.S reject it? checkmate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because we almost always choose indigenous designs over European ones. See;
      >M-14 vs T48 (FAL)
      >M4 vs XM8
      >M1918 vs Vickers
      >Bradley vs whatever Euro alternative

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Domestic production matters a lot and french are really anal about licenced production.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russian artillery had always been trash. Their accuracy was a joke. The reason why we let our ammo production atrophy so much wasn’t because our defense strategies were dumb but because the West’s operational experiences indicated that we simply didn’t need nearly as many rounds to strike targets. Fire-control computers, near-real-time ISR, battlefield networking, high-quality guns and ammo, meant that arty could destroy anything they shot at with only a handful of rounds. Then Russia and Ukraine got into WW1 and the high-IQ Western world looked on aghast as we suddenly asked to start mass manufacturing of shells. What we SHOULD HAVE DONE was simply told Putin to leave or else, and that would have been that. But we have a leadership crisis which is why Putin attempts these invasions to begin with.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Caesar
    Overrated technical. Change my mind.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >apolochives, honhonhon

    All the SPGs given to Ukraine have been recognized as solid guns by /k/ since day one of the war. Just that Pzh2k and Krab got meme'd on because of their nature, they still did good work.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Just that Pzh2k and Krab got meme'd on because of their nature,
      Ayykshyually they were memed on because chug-adiacent morons larped as poles and krauts trying to provoke both into shitflinging at each other. Needless to say since both poles and krauts are morons, they kind of succeded.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with the PzH2k and Krab to a degree is they take forever to produce by the looks of it. Ukraine placed an order for 100 PzH2k and also for 50 or so Krabs in 2022. I haven't heard anything of the Krab order but so far not a single one of those 100 PzH2k has been delivered. Caesars meanwhile can be produced a lot quicker which is really good for Ukraine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        AFAIK Huta Stalowa Wola produces ~50 Krab howitzers per year, with the intention to increase production to 100 howitzers per year by the end of 2024. Poland has 152+ nad Ukraine has 52 of those on order, but how many were already delivered to Ukrainians is classified.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukraine placed an order for 100 PzH2k
        According to Wikipedia (and source there) that deal wasn't sealed

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Basé
    >mfw knowing my tax money took an enormous amount of lives from Russian artillerymen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cinquantes shades de banlieue

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's a plain looking salad and all but it's not THAT scary.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Was it a Krab that got shot so many times past its service life that the barrel fell off?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So it's not supposed to do that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's actually expected to do that. That's why it had a limit on shell usage.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, there are a lot of those Krabs going around the front all the time and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don't want people to think Krabs aren't safe

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          by all means no!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most of them are built so the barrel doesn't get blown off at all

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            then what is it expected to do?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              well not blow the barrel off that's for sure, I just wanna make that perfectly clear

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    True to caesar

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >they are shot mainly with lancets or OTRK
    moron here - what is OTRK plz?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >OTRK
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ty anon <3

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          neverserved here, does it hurt to fire one of those?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that the Russians didn’t have anything between a Pion (38km) and 300mm rockets (120-200km) with which to fight against modern Western systems able to reach out 40km was a major shortcoming. Also things like Pion (203mm) were slow and inaccurate like all the other Soviet guns. If it weren’t for the constant shell-hunger the Ukies have been suffering from most of the war the Russian artillery forces would have trashed and held back. They now have those universal flight kit things (UMPB) which will finally let them perform accurate counter-battery strikes from 300mm tubes (Smerch, Tornado). They’re also supposedly testing a new Ceaser-type SPG loaded up with fire control etc (picrel) but it looks a lot heavier and is probably not as mobile or quick to setup / take-down.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I have serious doubts this thing will actually go into mass production. Setting up new production lines is hard enough in peace time let alone in the middle of a war and then this is also Russia we're talking about. At this stage I suspect we're far more likely to see Nork artillery systems in Ukraine than that thing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >No hearing protection in sight
            >Koksan
            Those guys are way past REEEEEEEEEEEE aren't they?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Allah safeguards their ears.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong.
            AGAIN with the NAFO troons wrong.
            If you were right, would not be transexuals that frick dogs?
            No. Would not.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

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              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's prime killdozer material.
                Would have been a Boss Character in the Libyan Civil War.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/x5AsdPb.jpeg

          I have serious doubts this thing will actually go into mass production. Setting up new production lines is hard enough in peace time let alone in the middle of a war and then this is also Russia we're talking about. At this stage I suspect we're far more likely to see Nork artillery systems in Ukraine than that thing.

          You mean this thing?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S43_Malva

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They almost had Hermes but it was never finalized. Hermes was a Pantsir missile adapted with an anti-surface mode and designated by laser. It would have had a ~25kg warhead and 100km range, so midway between Excalibur and Himars.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OTRK == tactical ballistic missiles

      >OTRK
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

      not necessarily tochka, it's just an acronym for all tactical missiles systems

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The enemy has few of these
    >when the shipment of 78 more Caesars is coming this year
    Hon hon hon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God I love France recently.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >78 more Caesars is coming this year
      For real? Salsa?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://apnews.com/article/france-ukraine-ammunition-howitzers-af44ababeef42de98170660cc1753b77

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        CAESARs will be basically shipped straight from the conveyor to the train for Ukraine from now on.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't get too excited, those guns aren't going to make much difference without a correspondingly significant increase in Ukrainians 155mm shell supply, which hasn't happened
        ...yet

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Have you not read the OPs pics? it's not about saturation anymore, it's about speed of deployment and precision. They're shootin' and scootin'

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            With saturation, Ukraine can shoot and scoot across the whole frontline, which feels like a gamechanger.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They're shootin' and scootin
            Same as i do after picking OP's mum up at the gas station

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It actually has. Update your script.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Macron is really pissed about what russia is doing in africa

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Nooo you can't take our title of worst ever colonies away from us!
        Frick I don't even want to imagine what Russian colonies would have been like.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Russian colonies would have been like.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Next russian despot will try to regain some crumbs of prestige there

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno if they count. That's like right there. I mean a good proper overseas colony. That's like saying Europe was a French colony at one point.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Colonialism is when boats

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I mean a good proper overseas colony
              Given the overall geography, climate and lack of infrastructure it probably took less time to sail from Britain to America then to reach any place in Siberia or the Pacific from Moscow.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I understand why it might not seem that way given Europe's history of overseas colonialism, but you're wrong
              The Teutonic Order being sent to settle Prussia and "convert" the locals? That's colonialism
              Russia spreading all the way to the Pacific in the first place? That's colonialism
              China genociding entire populations in the western bit of their country to replace them with Chinks? That's colonialism

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >colonialism is only when poor Black folk get empired dot commed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah let's put our capital in the ass of the country
            What were they thinking?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The real answer why the border is so fricked up is that there were all kinds of ethnicities living next to each other and when the USSR made internal states, they split them up based on those ethnicities

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >when the USSR made internal states, they split them up based on those ethnicities
                But Stalin literally shipped people around whole USSR to frick with population of those republics

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those borders were drawn this way specifically to weaken these states so they couldn't revolt against USSR leadership

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Heh, this isn't even my final form.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >DO NOT REDEEM THE BORDER BLOODY b***h

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wait until you see the Indian enclave inside a Bangladeshi enclave inside an Indian enclave inside Bangladesh. It's the only counter-counter-enclave in the world.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot to mention this, but it's about the size of a football field and completely uninhabited.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot to mention this, but it's about the size of a football field and completely uninhabited.

                It no longer exists, sadly. India and Bangladesh managed to put aside their nationalist autism for long enough to regularize the border and eliminate hundreds of enclaves.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sic transit gloria mundi.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Would you prefer t have Jizzax as the capitol?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Soviets(Russians) drew the borders of their vassal countries specifically to ensure they would be at each other's throats should they ever become free of Russian brotherhood.

              https://i.imgur.com/gKtYP1w.jpeg

              Heh, this isn't even my final form.

              is the least subtle example of this, a huge mess of exclaves and enclaves with mountain passes, rivers etc.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Stalin deliberately border gored it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing France cares about from Africa are vital natural resources, like uranium. Russia seems to have thought France would just meekly scuttle away when they stuck their oar in, which was a fair assumption because until now Macron had given every impression of being a contemptible coward, and his political rivals were even worse belly-crawlers. Apparently even Frenchmen have red lines.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >uranium
            can this fricking myth die already?
            france has always and will continue to pull 80% of it's uranium imports from canada.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If he’s pissed, I assume he can pick up the phone and call the military to order them to do something about it. If he hasn’t than I assume he doesn’t actually care that much.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Putin must have pissed off Macron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how popular is he with the french public currently? wars are usually a pretty good way to get support for the government and giving ukraine is both safe (no french soldiers dying) and easily justifiable (evil russia crushing poor ukrainians)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          mid at best
          he's a bit of dick but has a strong following in the center
          He's probably going to win re-election because they always end in a run off and if it's centrist against someone from the right or the left the other side votes center. It is going to be closer tough than last time but the left is more motivated to go out to beat RN.
          His real problem; is the parliament where it's normal proportional representation and he has to tard wrangle a coalition that while stable is losing votes according to all the polls so they'd have to shake things up or probably look for an other coalition member (maybe Éric Zemmour Reconquête if the manage to stick to their about 7-8 percent polls)
          but take all off that with a hearty helping of salt because I'm not French but just consume french political media too keep my french fresh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >His real problem; is the parliament where it's normal proportional representation
            how does that work in the French system, given their moronic two-stage / playoff election method? does he still have to form coalitions, or do alliances go on a vote by vote basis? what's the party makeup of the executive arm?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Frog here
            >he's a bit of dick but has a strong following in the center
            True. I don't remember the exact numbers but the most recent poll results I saw put him at around 30% of positive opinion among the French public. Not much, but way better than his predecessor (the bar was very low to be honest)
            >He's probably going to win re-election
            He already did, he can't be reelected in 2027 (next presidential elections)
            >look for an other coalition member (maybe Éric Zemmour Reconquête if the manage to stick to their about 7-8 percent polls)
            It would be a political death sentence, a lot of Macron voters see Zemmour as Hitler incarnate, while most Zemmour voters despise Macron on a visceral level

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >He already did, he can't be reelected in 2027 (next presidential elections)
              oh term limit
              >It would be a political death sentence, a lot of Macron voters see Zemmour as Hitler incarnate, while most Zemmour voters despise Macron on a visceral level
              I had the impression that zemmour was considered to be less far right that RN
              well thank your for correcting and good luck with the olympic summer

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SEXO
      god i love the baguette launcher

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am so mind broken that I thought the flashing screen was a pepe post.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the number is too small to make a difference

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      good thing ukraine is getting more of them then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You guys said that about HIMARS, too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tell it to the hundreds and hundreds of russkie artillery pieces dead at their hands.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Say it with me homosexual:
    TOTAL
    ZIGGER
    DEATH

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yeah me too.
    Love the unity of the western world in their fight for total russian death.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    Say it with me homosexual:
    TOTAL
    ZIGGER
    DEATH

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why caesar and not archer? why doesnt anyone want our super expensive gun truck

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because there are 8 Archers vs ~67 Caesars in Ukraine.

      >when the USSR made internal states, they split them up based on those ethnicities
      But Stalin literally shipped people around whole USSR to frick with population of those republics

      Internal borders preceded Stalin and his deportation frickery for the most part.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    There was more stuff for border security in combined package months ago, who blocked that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      unironically both sides
      American politicians just don't pull together like they used to, every tiny little thing is seized upon as a pretext
      Democrat cancel culture, Republican contrarianism

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I've never understood this mindset. How do they not understand that sending military aid for the US generates money and influence rather than draining them? It's like they can only think in terms of physical cash being moved from one location to another.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've never understood this mindset.
      concern trolling plus western media failing and zigger copeganda being successful in portraying the image its literal pallets of physical cash being shipped and not the dollar valuation of equipment

      case in point for the vatnik propaganda version:

      [...]

      [...]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its just zigger shills trying to demoralize

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not. Dipshit. People disagree with you.

        And fyi
        >Le shilling
        Russian psyops play both sides. So if you have seen some moronic isolationist shit yeah shills, you know that. But if you've seen some crazy "all Republicans must hang" also a shill. Their strategy is to play both sides off each other and create disunity. They don't actually "pick" a side. >This weekend was full of the latter type of shilling

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    pulling out the BMP-1s and Iranian artillery shells is a sure sign of victory, sergey pidarovic

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >quite literally crying out as he strikes you
    Impressive. Very nice.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm Robert Cheeseburger from the Michigan oblast and I agree, we must not provoke great russian bear, they have nuclear weapons,

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >p-please! I have a family! no, god, no!
    >ACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That dark skin. Isn't that some kind of Uzbek or other Tatar?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Either way, he's about to be turned into tartar

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          kek, I just had steak tartar for lunch
          >just had lunch
          >nearly 3pm
          such is the hard life of a public sector worker in France

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve seen French people strike for less.
            Send more Caesar

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's been claimed he's (was?) literally indian
        No, I'm not joking

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A few of them died and most of the ones that got sent back home were horribly injured first, so it's possible. He definitely looks more like an Indian than a Central Asian.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >2 more semesters and we will take the Ukraine

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    Oh wow, a real living vatnik. Haven't seen one of these in a while

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >give ukraine X amount of US build weapons
    >you now have to build X amount of US build weapons
    for the US economy it's just moving money around for the most part.
    For russia it's an other chunk of productive middle aged men getting blow to zitterenes.
    now gtfo shilltard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Always mystifies me how morons spin weapons being used into a loss. What exactly do they think the MIC does?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's like they think that Ford makes money by not making cars and that you own a car to just let it sit there, idle for decades before you scrap it.

        [...]
        >What money and how and will it be generated after Ukraine's inevitable defeat?
        The US and US allies are going to have a major role in fuel exports from the near east in the future, not just because there will be a butcher's bill when this is over, but also because China and Russia are going to be frozen out of Ukrainian politics, as are the towelheads in Tehran. Guess what else Ukraine makes a bunch of that thirdies need? Food. It will become possible in the next few decades to exert enormous pressure on recalcitrant lesser peoples with a new ally on-side.

        and the rest of the world has stopped buying russian weapons and US/EU orders are booming

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I bet South Korean industry is quietly very happy about all of this.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >quietly very happy
            nah man they are very, very happy about it and don't bother hiding it

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >What money and how and will it be generated after Ukraine's inevitable defeat?
    The US and US allies are going to have a major role in fuel exports from the near east in the future, not just because there will be a butcher's bill when this is over, but also because China and Russia are going to be frozen out of Ukrainian politics, as are the towelheads in Tehran. Guess what else Ukraine makes a bunch of that thirdies need? Food. It will become possible in the next few decades to exert enormous pressure on recalcitrant lesser peoples with a new ally on-side.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >America sends old munitions and vehicles it's not using that cost money to store or decommission to Ukraine
    >Gets to manufacture more munitions providing frickloads of jobs and boosting local economies
    >Racks up favour after favour with Europe and NATO allies that they can leverage for trade deals and force European nations to help them with resource wars in the middle east
    >Will basically own Ukraine when it eventually wins
    >Has reduced Russia from a great power that it used to fight proxy wars against to being a joke where the proxy wars of other nations take place
    I mean I could just keep going on. There is really no downside for the US and Europe supporting Ukraine. It's the best thing to happen for Western nations in a long time.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong. They don't have a problem targeting Caesar with their drones.
    https://t.me/Dnepro_Rub/2402

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They don't have a problem targeting Caesar with their drones.
      Just because Russia can destroy Caesar with a drone, doesn't mean they don't have problems with it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia killed one (1) CAESAR while losing hundreds and hundreds of artillery pieces to them
        LMAO, seems like quite the ratio for a basic-ass 155mm duct-taped to a truck.

        Well, it's not nothing... but it's close.

        https://i.imgur.com/wnRJLNH.gif

        Okay, so it's five to several hundred. LMAO.

        This is the Ukrainian artillery Russia destroyed in 1 week in April.
        https://nitter.poast.org/RoastedPorkCo/status/1780188332569309322

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >1 CAESAR
          Implessyiv

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >This is the Ukrainian artillery Russia destroyed in 1 week in April.
          There's days with Russia losing 32 artillery pieces, visually confirmed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Summer 2023 was crazy for Russia’s artillery losses. I remember it being an average of 20 guns per day.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Visually confirmed by the conman Perpetua?
            https://nitter.poast.org/KautlaFarmFire/status/1772560935648981191#m

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              What even is your post moron

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Visually confirmed by a variety of sources, all of them infinitely more credible and trustworthy than (You) and your fellow zigger propagandists. Seethe more about it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia killed one (1) CAESAR while losing hundreds and hundreds of artillery pieces to them
      LMAO, seems like quite the ratio for a basic-ass 155mm duct-taped to a truck.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They destroyed at least 5 so far.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, it's not nothing... but it's close.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay, so it's five to several hundred. LMAO.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why isn't this SPG a burned out piece of melted steel?

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Oh ok, I thought you were being serious. Now I realise you're just being silly trying to bait responses. Good job I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a different guy who was baiting, but if I got your (you) AND stopped you from replying to the vatnik then it's win-win

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fair, I can respect that.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't see Ukraine sending waves of men on clown cars bro. Keep coping

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sad. Can't even get your English colloquialisms right.
    Let alone ignoring that a Russian made OP's report in the first place.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"NOTHING WILL SAVE HOHOLS NOW, ESPECIALLY THIS NEW BILL THAT'S ABOUT TO BE SIGNED AND WE'RE TOTALLY NOT SEETHING ABOUT! IT'S OVER!"

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >europeans
    >exiting nato
    Lmao you moron nato will be around for the next 50 years at minimum, new members joining. It would’ve died on its own but you morons cannot stop punching your own dick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The French will find another reason to leave at some point

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No they won’t. They can’t lose influence v ze germans, and if they stay the french will too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the frogs never left NATO. They left NATO integrated command because they didn't want anyone potentially playing with their toys.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >cut state tax to please ~~*them*~~
    >become underfunded
    >cry about "foreign gibs" while neglecting to state that most of the funds will be spend in the states, even the one you currently whine about

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Far from Misery needing any money, it should be entirely eliminated

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You will die slowly and painfully in a forgotten field or village, snow Black person

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That won't happen until they run out of sacrificial Kalmykians first

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder who could be behind this sudden influx of demoralization and "America first" posts...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cut them some slack; If they don't do their daily shilling, their beloved Monke will send them a draft notice to fight in the war they're so convinced they will win.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can tell these guys work 9-5 Mon-Fri because we got nothing out of them during the entire weekend. Fricking slackers should be pulling triple shifts like the rest of the workforce.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SAY IT.
    >JE M'EXCUSE!
    C’EST CE QUE JE PENSAIS.

    ?si=TdsK5S6OGlS0oQmt

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Imagine actually believing this. Imagine actually believing that Putin and Russia would take -less- territory if Ukraine resisted less.
    I cannot imagine a more bullshit threat that makes literally no sense. It's like a mugger saying "If you don't resist I'll only take half of what's in your wallet!"
    Like, are you actually moronic? Anyway frick off to Russia and get raped to death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Alright everyone, will we see a shitfit as big as when Gonzalo Lira died in prison?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Did Roach Deadpill even register on MSM news?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Depends, do you consider Cucker to be MSM?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I do not consider Pucker Wife'sSon to be MSM. He's on the outs, just like Trump and Bill O'Reilly (who asks for donations on a webcast now).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why, "Grrr why did we torture, rape and summarily execute our American mouthpiece?" is not something you really want to be shouting about.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Russian fractal spirals ever-tighter around zero, swirling in a drain

          neverserved here, does it hurt to fire one of those?

          Artillerymen who post here joke about hearing loss but could be exaggeration.
          I was a tanker and normal ear protection plugs were always fine.
          At 200 meters distance it's even possible to fall asleep in your tent while main guns are firing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but could be exaggeration.
            Hell, man. The M777 has been linked to traumatic brain injuries. I can't imagine what it does to your eardrums.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >when Gonzalo Lira died in prison?
        wasn't that big of a shitfit, really. Cucker mentioned him once as did that homosexual cartoonist, what was his name again, can't shut up about him but that is it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          wait did Lira actually die, confirmed with proof? couldn't happen to a more worthy guy imo

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >that homosexual cartoonist
          Ben Garrison? He also whitewashed him too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wtf even happened to Ben. He just kinda went full /misc/ and poof, gone

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Kinda got too boom-boom-boomer even for PrepHole and faded into the dementia corners of facebook

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Election tourists realized he wasn’t based and redpilled like the edits of his cartoons were.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Used to be a libertarian, but after 2016 went full Magatard. Brain tumor isn't doing him any favours either.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Ben Garrison?
            Latuff! That was his name.

            Only reason Zyklon Ben was popular was because of the /misc/ edits.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      man why would you even rape that thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its trad russian culture, you would not understand

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >US Senate Intelligence Committee Chairperson Senator Mark Warner reported on April 21 that US provisions of military aid to Ukraine, including long-range ATACMS missiles, will be in transit to Ukraine “by the end of the week” if the Senate passes the supplemental appropriations bill on April 23 and US President Joe Biden signs it by April 24
    Are you ready lads?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TZD forever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile the euro shell dump has been delayed until June (and will probably get delayed again)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      me and my wife are ready

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My boner has a boner

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing I regret about cluster munitions is that they look relatively unimpressive when filmed by an observer drone from 500m up

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The 'airburst' at 0:22 is actually a fratricidal detonation. The submunition gets hit by the fragments from other submunitions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing I regret about cluster munitions is that they look relatively unimpressive when filmed by an observer drone from 500m up

        I legitimately think the U.S. toned them down when they made those modifications to make sure none of the cluster munitions end up being duds that can trigger a warcrime later.

        I've seen the color videos of them in Ukraine and even the exploding ones don't create such huge explosions as the ones in these old webms

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are different versions of atacms. the newer ones (relatively ie 1990s instead of 80s) use smaller payloads for more range.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The newest versions use the same unitary warhead as the Harpoon missile which removes the danger of UXO

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          At least with ATACMS you'll know what area to look for UXO in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the cluster munitions we've mostly seen mincing mobiks are DPICM submunitions delivered by arty shells. DPICM throws an AT metal jet downwards and spreads shrapnel laterally.
          The OG ATACMS Ukraine has been using so far (inertial guidance, lots of submunitions to compensate for less accuracy) use APAM submunitions which are more like bomblets.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Is Kherson still Russian forever?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes they voted 101.8% to join Russia forever

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's getting impossible to distinguish between legitimate morons and pretend-morons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      >Odessa
      Forgive him, he just wants discount d-day to become reality.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Odessa chink is 110% serious and 200% moronic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So, I've worked out that a lot of the shilling unironically happens during office hours in both St. Petersburg and New Delhi time, so anyone doing it on the weekend is a troll.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >last year
    So what would the terms have been like if you managed to assassinate Zelensky and install a puppet government in 2022 as you tried to do?

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watch

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So is Forever Puccian Kherson still with Puccia vatBlack person?

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    (apologies in advance for my terrible attempt at the French language)

    J'aime CAESAR tirant des obus
    J'aime CAESAR, car les Russes exploser
    J'aime CAESAR tirant des obus
    J'aime CAESAR; j'aime CAESAR

    Tirer, camarade, tirer, camarade
    Tirer, tirer, tirer!
    Tirer, camarade, tirer, camarade
    Tirer tirer tirer!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >exploser
      explosé: participe passe: because the russians have already exploded
      you are using ceasar as a proper name but I think it might be thing and not a name so you'd have to add the masculine prefix le. But that is something I'd leave to a native speaker.

      still betty guud

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >WOOOW, why do you try to stop me from killing ukrainians!!? Do you want more ukrainians to die?? You bloodthirsty evil burger man. Just let me kill them

    Also, you are the biggest imbecile if you think an Ukrainian surrender now would mean peace. Just another war a decade later would start up.
    The only way a Russian victory means peace is if they truly kill a lot of them, and the rest of the world does nothing about it. But most people would not support that. You contrarian idiot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine somehow magically surrendering so Russia can annex them would be kino, imagine all the insurgencies

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    People like you should be hunted down and shot on sight, or publicly tortured to death

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Biden isn't the only one giving money in the form of deadly aid anon

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >It's money that is not going to rebuilding our industrial base, it's just going to [our industrial base]
    Do you think before you type?

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >April 22 2024
    >After months of Russian advances following the fall of the town, Ukrainian defensive positions are now 3km north of avdiivka

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >they were about to sign a treaty last year
    That's funny, it seems nobody informed Ukraine about this treaty they were supposedly about to sign.

    >landlock Ukraine
    Post Kherson, subhuman.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    /pol/Black folk are so mad lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's because they're all bottoms, so they can't find anyone to frick them.

      It's sad.

      It's sad, so sad. It's a sad, sad situation. And it's getting more and more absurd

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So that explains my anger issues

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    useless without shells

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    In debt to whome anon. Think for more than a second kek.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do they know they are being hit by Caesar specifically?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because you can hear the shell honhonhonng when it comes down
      unless it's between 12:00 and 14:00 (lunch) or past 17:00 (past office hours)

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Offtopic question, really need your help /k/, there was a video, not sure if on youtube or not, of a "You probably wondering how I ended up here" song/line and then going through all the "adventures" of the VDV at hostomel as well as maybe other russian units in the first few days of the invasion. Anyone got it? been searching for hours

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure about the one you're describing, but here's an edit of the Magic School Bus theme song:

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This guy has posted the exact thing in all of the other threads. Just ignore him, he's just mad at the Ukraine bill passing and all of the frozen Russian assets being used to assist blowing them all up.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So, how poor are you going to be after this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >adhere to the international law
      ah the ironing

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What was so special about this plant, that it has made you this mad about it burning down?

    Did family, or friends work here that are now being forced to fight at the front due to being suddenly unemployed?

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >don't (generationally) invest your ill-gotten gains in countries and/or blocs that your own government willingly maintains an antagonistic relationship with
    >instead, invest locally or with favored allies
    vatnik oligarchs sending all their money and kids to the EU for decades will never not be funny.
    Even their yachts are built in fricking Italy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Assets of Russians are not being frozen and taken away. Assets of Russian billionaires directly benefitting from Russian government is. Maybe Chinks will think twice about fricking up Taiwan if their real-estate in USA gets confiscated

      even for those oligarchs that did get targeted keeping assets in the west is still a good hedge/bet.
      There is 0 recourse when the local regime wants to take your shit. Less that 0 even because if you try to resist they will probably just kill you.
      But if you keep say a third of what you have in the west the regime can't get to it. So if they want to take your shit you can still bail to the west and live off of that money.
      If the west decides to take your shit in the west tough luck, part of the game and with some luck the regime will compensate you with some western assets in russia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        oh and one thing I forgot to add
        there was a lively trade of non liquid assets at the start of the war when it became clear that this would take a while.
        Western assets in russia being traded for russian assets in the west. Usually between frims/people that where already working together to protect their shit from getting taken.
        Like a friend of my parents that traded his (majority) stake in a mall in moscow for several bits or real estate in the west that belong to his partners in that mall. Both are now locally "owned" so they can't be taken in tit for that actions and once the war is over they can sort it out again.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Assets of Russians are not being frozen and taken away. Assets of Russian billionaires directly benefitting from Russian government is. Maybe Chinks will think twice about fricking up Taiwan if their real-estate in USA gets confiscated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >don't (generationally) invest your ill-gotten gains in countries and/or blocs that your own government willingly maintains an antagonistic relationship with
      >instead, invest locally or with favored allies
      vatnik oligarchs sending all their money and kids to the EU for decades will never not be funny.
      Even their yachts are built in fricking Italy.

      You're right, I shouldn't equate oligarchs with the average person trying to diversify their portfolio

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    not every russian get their shit frozen/taken tough
    i know several russians that live and work here in Western Europe and the only problem they had was in moving what ever saving they had left in russia out of russia because the russian gouvernement is trying to stop capital flight.
    The only entities being hit are state entities, MIC entities and the funds of oligarchs that are close to Putin or involved with the invasion in some way.
    Most rich russians still have funds and real estate in the west that is completely unmolested. It's just that most of the really rich and really really rich are also very or very, very connected too the Kremlin.

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >globe
    Update your metodichka, bro.. The Earth is flat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >is
      will be

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The Earth is flat.
      Yes and no.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The National Guard actually kicked out illegals while the Border Patrol just lets them in.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dont mind me, just Macron posting.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like a GI Joe toy catalogue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/KiLrJPr.png

      Looks like a GI Joe toy catalogue.

      Impressionnant

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the mongols are forever redeemed, shoot&scoot will be a perennial tactic til the end of times

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