According to Rybar and other Russian sources an ATACMS strike was launched at night on April 28th hitting S-300 and S-400 installations in Tarkhankut, Crimea
ATACMS Strikes Tarkhankut, Crimea
According to Rybar and other Russian sources an ATACMS strike was launched at night on April 28th hitting S-300 and S-400 installations in Tarkhankut, Crimea
Who's gonna be buying Russian air defense these days?
Turkroach
>air defense gets taken out by the very weapon it's supposed to counter
They'll still have their usual market of african warlords, but anyone else on the scope of hostilities with US/NATO might just begin investing in R&D.
>investing in R&D
Or palletised logistics!
they're doing SEAD to hit Sevastopol again, aren't they?
No, Kerch bridge
ATACMS with cluster warhead was used reportedly
>Inauguration of Supreme Commander
Russia's getting a new one?
No, they're getting the old one for a new term.
>cluster warhead
so is that why russia used a cluster munition over odessa then?
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1785236083338273178
I was about to commend this vatnik for writing like a normal person until I read the last line. My sides
Hopefully is to prepare to strike more oil installations
11 casualties reported
That channel is a Ukrainian psyop.
Is S400 a meme? Why don't they have gun turrets as part of the system to easily/cheaply kill missiles?
Because you're too stupid to understand how missiles work or how fast they travel. So violently stupid.
>11 casualties reported
Russian losses last 24 hours and totals. Personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded
30.04.2024
Tanks — 7307 (+22)
Armored fighting vehicle — 14046 (+39)
Artillery systems — 12011 (+26)
MLRS — 1053 (+2)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 779 (+1)
Planes — 348
Helicopters — 325
UAV — 9531 (+3)
Cruise missiles — 2126 (+2)
Ships (boats) — 26
Submarines — 1
Trucks and Fuel Tankers — 16142 (+33)
Special equipment — 1977 (+3)
Military personnel — aprx. 468720 people (+1250)
Keeping the Cubing going well on making more cubes.
Very bad day to be a tanker, the usual Tuesday for AFV's and its actually not the worst day to be a Russian gunner- that's about half the number of arty crews blown up the last time I looked
>Ukraine is doing SEAD using simple ground launched missiles
SHOIGU!
SEAD can mean anything that suppresses it counts
>wild weasel operations are SEAD
>ground launched missiles vs radar stations are SEAD
>hitting radar with artillery shells is SEAD
>driving a tank over enemy launchers is SEAD
>passing out drunk at the controls while under attack is SEAD
air defense status?
Isn't Atacms a "dumb" ballistic missile with a large radar cross-section? These should be theoretically easier to shoot down than the small rockets.
>These should be theoretically easier to shoot down than the small rockets
unfortunately S-400's ABM capabilities are also theoretical
>"dumb" ballistic missile with a large radar
Even non-stealth, ballistic missiles are harder to shoot down than cruise missiles simply because of their speed.
Hee-mars GMLRS are also dumb rockets, but we've seen Pantsirs shooting interception missiles and missing. I'm thinking about the Kherson nightime video, back when She/They/He-mars was making holes in the Kherson bridge.
Or it could be Russian tech is shit and/or crewed by alcoholic monkeys. Its AA.....it fits.
why does that look like Swamp Thing's dick?
Because it is, anon. Clearly.
What the frick happened to that poor rocket?
camo netting
>harder to shoot down than cruise missiles simply because of their speed.
This isn't even a factor. You have enough time to calculate an interception firing solution and send it. If they're missing, it's because the crew or the system sucks, probably both. Please note tuat Patriot batteries managed to shoot down air launched ballistic missiles in hypersonic flight.
>This isn't even a factor.
It is absolutely a factor, moron. Every firing solution has some error and more speed radically decreases the margin of error you can correct for through feedback control.
homosexual. Stfu and never post here again.
There's a technology called Terminal Phase Guidance Systems that specifically exist to supply highly accurate positional data to compensate for course deviations and to better strike the target.
Skill issue.
A lot of Russia's issues come from not having good sensor networking. As far as I know, Russian AD systems are not capable of cuing fire solutions off of other systems, which greatly hurts their ability to respond to incoming attacks because they have to wait to get a lock on their own local radar first.
This is in contrast to the US, where any interceptor asset can piggyback off of pretty much any radar so they can exploit their maximum range its fullest.
>A lot of Russia's issues come from not having good sensor networking. As far as I know, Russian AD systems are not capable of cuing fire solutions off of other systems, which greatly hurts their ability to respond to incoming attacks because they have to wait to get a lock on their own local radar first.
>This is in contrast to the US, where any interceptor asset can piggyback off of pretty much any radar so they can exploit their maximum range its fullest.
This. It's a huge, huge fricking issue particularly when dealing with something ballistic even if it's "slow", like an ATACMS is still doing IIRC Mach 3. If one just looks at it like
>"wow, it's going hundreds of km that's lots of time even at Mach 3!"
that's only true with sensor networking because no AD actually has that whole picture the whole time itself at sufficient accuracy for a firing solution. If it can only start to acquire lock in the final spurt the time shrinks massively. Plus with clusters dispensing is happening into massive numbers of submunitions long before ground impact, at that point it's too late.
So the window there is smaller when everything is standalone.
Tututututututu, tram! taararam!
there isn't a lot of data on it, but I'm fairly certain that if it has airspeed to spare, it goes on a wacky trajectory to make interception harder
It's technically a quasi-ballistic missile, so it can preform some limited maneuvers. Still, remember how much trouble GMLRS gave them, and those only have a basic canard path correction system.
>90's informercial music starts playing
>ARMY TACAMS IS A MANOUVERABLE, NOT A BALLISTIC MISSILE
>how dare you fight back!
Good times are over for you Black folk, enjoy the tungsten.
Everyone asks "what airdefense doing" but nobody asked "how airdefense doing"
Though the answer to that is NOT WELL lmao
maybe the air defense man is into NTR? not going to judge.
>not going to judge.
Anon, NTR is a cuck fetish. It is the only one that SHOULD be judged and cucks heavily ridiculed.
>GMLRS are also dumb rockets
GMLRS are also not stealthy*
When Hillary wears it better you gotta send the stylist to the gulag.
>Anon, NTR is a cuck fetish. It is the only one that SHOULD be judged and cucks heavily ridiculed.
i mean yeah with civilized human beings, but we're talking RUSSIANS here anon. context. by that standard just glad if it's not mass child rape like normal for them. also other anon claimed he was doing "NOT WELL" but if it was his fetish maybe he was doing pretty good right?
What if you self-insert as the bull though?
it's less bad but you're still thinking about trash women
maybe if you insert some rigorous disciplining into the fantasies and spit on her face, for good measure
>how dare you fight back
Every refinery Puccia owns will be burned to a crisp, zigger
>omg an uninformed person literally asked a dumb question on PrepHole this is perfect anti zigger propaganda!!
Atleast you got to practice at MS paint lmao
You've been saying this for months, don't make me start making Kot threads again for everyday you fail to do anything.
Do eeet
so
what's air defense doing
exploding, evidently
Is that normal?
That’s not very normal, I’d like to make that point.
Well how was it not normal?
Well, there are a lot of these air defense units going around Russian territory all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen … I just don’t want people thinking that air defense units aren’t safe.
>As of early 2015, more than 560 ATACMS missiles had been used in combat
We should double that number in 2024.
>ziggers reeing & seething
My lullaby
I want to pet it’s belly and feed it treats.
sleep tight pigger
wow did he tell the human to pet him? this little guy has a soul?
What a cute kitteh
Comrade, that is a Squirrel.
>he doesn't know what blessed bobr looks like IRL
>ATACAMS used for 2 years
>still not countered
>still efficient
Are they a real wunderwaffe? What is the russian strategy to eliminate this threat?
if old ass ATACMS and Patriots can make Puccians seethe so hard, I wonder what the likes of PrSM and THAAD would do to their minds.
>PrSM
Too new sadly, the Ukrainians may get them in 2026 if the war isn't over by then.
>THAAD
Isn't that for ballistic missiles tho?
>literally any western 40 years old PGM gets employed in Ukraine
>ziggers have no response
>IS THIS THE NEW WUNDERWAFFE GUYS????
No, russians are just about as good at war as arabs
>he doesn't know they're the OG Desert Storm ATACMS
>t.
Have fun watching all your refineries and power stations getting turned to dust, zegroid
It's serious in a way that Russia now advances 1-6km per day in some parts when they used to barely advance 100-500m.
Aid package requires at least a week to reach the frontlines and Russia is targeting train hubs to delay it.
Did another red line appear? Careful, you know what happens when the Boris Johnsons find out about red lines.
Sevastopol will become the European Aleppo
Belgorod, more like.
Pottery. To the last Crimean depot!
>Genuinely not shilling and concern trolling here. I just want to honestly know how serious the situation really is and if/when the aid package will at least stabilize the situation.
It is serious. Ukraine has been outgunned in artillery volume like 18 to 1, and running out of AD as well. Even with massive benefits of better tech, better intel, better training, kit, morale, being the defender, etc that's still really bad. Quantity has a quality all its own and all that.
The aid package will help stabilize a ton and while as other anon said it'll take awhile the effect is actually instant, because they've been rationing supplies not knowing if more would come. Now they only need to ration to last a few weeks so they can amp the volume up and be more aggressive again.
But the aid is only enough to stabilize by all accounts, not go on the offensive. Though that's still useful, they'll be able to dig in as well, and have more time to do what was needed all along but West was too shitty for which is hitting Russia itself as hard as possible. You can't win a modern war as the inferior power without taking it to the enemy.
So you're saying they need even MORE of my tax dollars? Great...
Just join me then in lobbying Biden to obliterate Russian positions directly and give Ukraine nukes and we can stop this expensive madness right away!
>So you're saying they need even MORE of my tax dollars? Great...
To kill ziggers, you should be happy, it's a net benefit for Humanity
Your opinion on the matter doesn't matter anyway, so try to not think about it and enjoy the spectacle
Spoken like a true cuck shill. Frick you oversight on my tax monies being spent is a good thing. Call me a zigger, copenseethe, the eggs are being counted
For every $1000 of tax you paid last year, $0.61 went to the Ukraine and $180 went to useless welfare programs.
There is no sane fiscal conservative argument against Ukrainian aid packages. It is insanely cheap and incredibly good value. This talking point is a non-starter for anyone who is fiscally literate. Git gud.
>useless welfare programs
He said, while living off of social security and assorted welfare programs.
>turdie moron suggesting anyone on this website is old enough for social security
way to reveal you're not american
>turdie moron suggesting social security will still even exist and be solvent when any of us are old enough to claim it
way to reveal you're not american
>while living off of social security and assorted welfare programs
Swing and a miss, buddy. You're arguing with a hard-right lolbert and somehow you're the one who sees a tax rate of 0.0006% that is nearly perfectly hypothecated to cover TZD continuation as too high. I bow before such extreme ancap autism. It's on a level even beyond private funding of Ukrainian drone drops and reeing about roads. If it were practicable for civil society to fund even bigger and better weapons for the Ukraine then I'd be all over that too, and I can only assume you'd be right next to me founding the Nuclear Breakout Capability for Ukraine charity given how hard you're kvetching about being coerced by the state into paying probably no more than $6/y towards TZD.
Real volunteerism hours.
>You're arguing with a hard-right lolbert
So a welfare baby, gotcha.
Also, I'm NTA and I'm fully in support of TZD and have no complaints about my tax money being used for that.
> Frick you oversight on my tax monies being spent is a good thing.
Yeah but that discussion isn't oversight(which does exist btw.)
You will sponsor TZD and you will be happy.
think with your own brain, instead of just parroting what the RussiaCuck wing of the political party you support is telling you to think.
Yes, mind you Russia is already probing multiple other to see their and our reactions including NATO allies AND biggest uranium producer on the planet with over 40% of market share so if Ukraine falls things will get more expensive not less.
>I will prosper after my enemy wins
/pol/-tier delusion
Your dollars will be worth nothing after Russia, Iran and China have finished with the memerican world order.
>t.
There is no historical precedent for the balance of power shifting towards multipolarity and the consequence not being a dramatic increase in conflict and strife. The Chinese especially should know this.
Ironic
Because this is exactly why the Chinese are so autistically obsessed with Empery.
One King Under Heaven brings peace
Captcha: 0KK VDV
After decades of communism both the Chinese and Russians don't see how multipolarity will dramatically increase conflict and strife as they see enormeous conflict and strife as the norm of all of human history and how history and society advances. In their view there would be no difference at worst.
I'm 90% percent certain that they don't believe in multipolarity and are just using it as a selling point to undermine the west. Multipolarity implies there will be sphere's of influence that are supposed to be respected, if you live in a small country with a potentially nationalistic neighbor (Of which there are many examples), why the frick would you want the current order to collapse, you stand to lose everything and gain nothing.
It absolutely is a buzzword for thirdies seething about USA. And to be fair, many people have legit reasons to hate USA in the third world, but let’s be real: if Chinks or Russo-pidors were hegemons in an equivalent position, only a moron would except for them to be any gentler or benevolent. Enemy of enemy is not necessarily a friend, etc.
>after Russia, Iran and China have finished with the memerican world order.
Oh yeah, that's going fantastic so far.
but India doesn't pay any tax to the U.S.
>Crimea is connected to the occupied territories by 2 roads
Why won't Ukrainians strike them? 2 successful hits would turn Crimea into an island.
>roads
Trains anon. And train track is very, very hard to damage in any serious way. So are train bridges. Soviets were also super good at train shit and that's one thing they've kept up ok, it's not exactly hard, almost by definition it's the simplest thing in the world to move a ton of heavy material and equipment to where there is a hole in the train tracks because duh, there's train tracks leading right up to it. And train bridges are hard to take down, because they're fricking designed to handle fricking trains which are heavy as frick. So they're heavily reinforced. Doing major damage to the bridge is still good if they can do it, a few months isn't nothing, but to actually blast the thing would take more then they've got. Or take all they've got and it just isn't that high priority. The US of course could do it but we sadly won't.
>island
It has a landbridge that Russia owns. That's what Ukraine tried to cut in the failed offensive last summer, but thanks in part to the West stupidly trickling in support instead of all out Russia had too much time to dig in and lay mine fields.
They are so thin on the map I suppose they are bridges or banks. Bridges can be rendered militarily unusable even by smaller GLMRS rockets.
Ok, one of the roads is on the 5 miles wide land strip, but all other connections are still bridges.
>Bridges can be rendered militarily unusable even by smaller GLMRS rockets
No, train bridges cannot. Like jesus anon you witnessed this, the amount of damage and energy from that massive kerch bridge blast and setting on fire a fricking fuel tanker was literally hundreds to thousands of times any GLMRS rocket warhead. It didn't take down the train bridge at all only the road side and they had it back up and running within 6-7 months. The much weaker USV attack last year only slowed things for 3 months, and that was still way more then missiles can hold. A GLMRS would maybe stop it for days at best. Bomblets obviously are useless there, but a WAU-23/B unitary warhead is still "only" around 500 lbs of explosive.
Ukrainians would love to take down the bridge for multiple reasons, and all the good people of Earth would cheer it on. If they could they'd do it. They're not ignoring it, and they've attacked it repeatedly. They can't just fly a B2 over there and drop a GBU-57 on it though. Unfortunately.
F16s and Mirages could easily take down that bridge.
More stuff they don't have, at least not yet. And they could only do it after a thorough SEAD/DEAD campaign which won't happen overnight either. You asked
>Why won't Ukrainians strike them?
You can't then bring up F-16s and Mirages that aren't actually deployed in combat in the war yet only getting training.
They've been getting training for over a year in the US, Northern Europe, the UK and France. You;re right about one thing. When they go in it will be SEAD and there won't be a Russian S300/400 left operating because of HARM or much of the black sea fleet left either.
Cheeky jdam lob for the meme
What would be the most kino is having a single renegade A10 BRRRRT the length of it. No it wouldn't knock it down or anything, just thinking outside the box here.
Hit trains and cause delays up the line. Let equipment, engines and stock build up in stockyards while repairs are carried out. Hit the stockyards while they are full, causing further issues. Rail system congests and sorting it out is a cluster frick. Keep hitting it and watch logistics collapse. Track repair teams can't get to the front if tracks are ruined and lies clogged for 100km enroute
>Hit trains and cause delays up the line
This is beyond the abilities they have as well. You'd either need air dominance or at least air superiority, an ability to do air penetration lacking those things (like stealth bombers), that was you can get close and hit stuff moving that way. Or a very heavy duty long range missile that has enough onboard intelligence to hit a moving vehicle in its terminal phase. Or enough raw numbers to guess. Mach 3 is about 3700 km/h, so it'll take a good 5 minutes for ATACMS to cross that, plenty enough time for a train to have moved already. You can guess of course and hope they don't notice it and speed up/slow down, and if we gave Ukraine lots of them so they could afford to be risky that'd help, but we haven't.
>Hit the stockyards while they are full
Jesus anon look at the fricking picture in the OP. 300km is decent range but it's not a tomahawk. They can't even hit the bridge with that at all let alone rail yards in mainland Russia behind it.
>Track repair teams can't get to the front if tracks are ruined and lies clogged for 100km enroute
Which would take thousands and thousands of missiles. America has them, Ukraine does not. And more importantly that'd be a huge waste vs a ton of other things to hit. You're still pissing away over $1.5m in advanced missile on some steel, wood and gravel. The economics don't work at all. You use that kind of mass accurate missile to obliterate enemy air, AD, C&C, counter battery, and a thousand other things not railroad.
Why can't they insert a spec ops or partisan team or two with loadsa C4 and thermite to keep fricking with the tracks and take out repair vehicles? Tracks are easy to repair if you've got the special equipment, said equipment is way way harder to replace.
>Why can't they insert a spec ops or partisan team or two with loadsa C4 and thermite to keep fricking with the tracks and take out repair vehicles
Because this isn't a video game and the world doesn't run on magic.
give me a ride and I'll do it
Insert with what? Submarines they don’t have? Helicopters they can’t risk flying? Red Alert 1’s stealth APC? Why not just send Brotherhood of Nod stealth troopers while they’re at it?
Russia actually has rail infrastructure.
It's the one thing they invest effort in.
They gotta. You can't have a ten million pop megacity like Moscow far from the sea and far from fertile land.
>You can't have a ten million pop megacity like Moscow far from the sea and far from fertile land.
My guy while he’s they do have trains, a lot of trains, Moscow is on a river which connects to the Caspian Sea naturally and to the Baltic via 19th century canal, and arable land is really not that far away to the South. You don’t even have to zoom out that far on a satellite map to see it.
Both are hundreds of miles away.
Every single megacity has either or both of two things: exceptionally fertile soil, or something that allows them to harvest crops multiple times a year to feed themselves (Mexico City, Cairo, Delhi ) or immediate ocean access so food can be shipped in. (Beijing, Cairo, Istanbul).
Moscow has neither.
A lot of Russia's rail lines are electric, because diesel tends to gel up in extreme cold. Take out the substations that power the lines, and nothing moves.
Most of the supplies to Crimea flow over the Kerch bridge.
Most of supplies to left bank of occupied Ukraine (across the river from Kherson) come from east, not Crimea. Also they don't really get much supplies, everything being poured into taking more clay in Donbass, not holding what they already heave.
>outgunned
>no AD
>west too shitty
>uncertainty with aid
It was even worse in 2022 and yet Ukraine won 3 main battles of the war.
Russia was a more incompetent clownshow back then as well
Even ziggers can adapt given enough time, they're very slow at it and still can't handle some stuff but they have no had a year. Tsar Monke is more willing to burn down his country and more able to do it, and force them to accept more in their already shit lives, so he's been able to move Russia to a full war footing and just keep throwing meat whereas Ukraine actually gives a shit about its people, hence trying hard to hold to a minimum 27yo for draft purposes.
Also, it's always easier to be on the defense, but Ukraine didn't (reasonably) want to get locked into a static war along frozen lines, they really wanted to try to liberate their people and territory. They didn't have enough training and material for that though which left them worse off then if they'd just gone full bunker last July instead. Hindsight is 20/20 though.
>Even ziggers can adapt given enough time
Shame they used up all their shit in three years of tarding around raising eyebrows and are down to Chinese gold karts and human sacrifice Storm human waves
>Shame they used up all their shit in three years of tarding around raising eyebrows and are down to Chinese gold karts and human sacrifice Storm human waves
I mean, that's not a shame at all that's one of the silver linings, the shame is they've caused so much suffering to actual humans along the way.
>I mean, that's not a shame at all that's one of the silver linings, the shame is they've caused so much suffering to actual humans along the way.
That's exactly why Russia will be completely disarmed not just of any heavy weapons but its nuclear forces as well and strategic bombers. Watch and learn. The state that Russia will turn out to be in when it goes down will make whatever replaces the FSB as national leadership glad of those terms too. The Russian economy is the single most sensitive subject for Russian propagandists. Those figures they cite on the IMF site? Provided by the kremlin to the IMF with no verification whatsoever. Russia is like a tower made of rotten timber at this point. They have burnt Russia down.. Its reputation is destroyed as is that of Russian people, it's military has been wrecked and its economy ruined. Even its quislings have been humiliated by being forced out in the open to sniff bread. Yet Russia has no victory and will have none.
>reputation
Oh yes, I am sure russians will feel awful about what liberal homosexuals in the west think about them as they take seaside vacations on the former ukranian coastline for generations to come
And when is that economic collapse going to happen again? Let me guess, two more weeks?
Do try and cram more women histrionics in one post why don't you? Most orcs can't even afford to leave russia and rarely leave their oblast btw, so your take at being smug falls flat
I know people will call me a concern troll for asking this, but have they actually used up all their stuff? They seem to have no shortage of artillery shells and they still seem to have enough tanks to stage offensives.
Nah, they still have plenty of leftovers to use. But once their leftovers are out they will instantly be eclipsed in production by all the nations giving Ammo to Ukraine
It Iranian supplied shells and North Korean shit thats keeping their artillery afloat.
>They seem to have no shortage of artillery shells
They have legacy soviet production lines also all of their thirdie coalition axis countries maximizing their production. We never had shell production capabilities of this size because unlike third world militaries we focus on air superiority instead of artillery (which we can just JDAM to shit). And without going into at least partial war economy we would never surpass them.
>still seem to have enough tanks to stage offensives
From satellite images we can determine that they depleted >60% of their equipment in storage. Russians ramped up their tank "production" to several hundred a month but it's mostly through repairing old hulls with cannibalized parts from vehicles in even worse condition. The production of new vehicles is still very low at this point. We even stopped seeing a certain types of vehicles since they basically went into extinction as their production was halted decades ago and all the existing ones were destroyed. I think realistically they still have equipment for about 1,5-2 years of a war of attrition this size.
>They seem to have no shortage of artillery shells
So why has their average daily shell use decreased by ~75% since its height in summer 2022?
>Tsar Monke is more willing to burn down his country
Yeah, so his country burns down. That in no way results in a victory over Ukraine. Russian shills don't seem able to understand that. Tsar Monke has completely ruined the Russian arms stock of vehicles with his worthless winter offensives. Putin used his ace card, his quislings in congress and they failed. Now its F16s and Leopard and Puma factories booting up. Russia is fricked.
Imagine the good Leopards like 2A7V and Pumas ripping apart russian BMPs, BTRs and T-type tanks. I would be in a good mood for at least a whole week if not more
>Imagine the good Leopards like 2A7V and Pumas ripping apart russian BMPs, BTRs and T-type tanks. I would be in a good mood for at least a whole week if not more
I think the Russian military, the ground forces will collapse before that happens and that the returning deserters will destabilize Russia further. The murder rate is already up 900%. Most critically the Russian economy is cannibalizing itself financially, confiscating foreign currency from Russian businesses, essentially reverting to communist state command economics with all the dystopian mis management that entails. I though it was awesome they felt compelled to have a foreigner sniff bread in Moscow, desperation level 11/10. Those missing 300 billion in foreign reserves...desperately needed. Russia is out of money. The war chest is gone. No one will lend to it and assets in Russia are viewed as essentially worthless.
I would like to believe this but timing matters. If Ukraine got no aid it's possible the front would collapse in a massive way before Russia did. Russia being fricked in 10 years doesn't help Ukraine right now. I don't believe Russia has the juice to achieve their original stated aim at all, under any circumstances. They're not going to be able to conquer the country. But getting the entirely of their stolen territories and solidifying the land bridge would still fricking suck. And the US could still frick things up, our 5th column traitors are in no way defeated for the war just a battle. Plus, even if Ukraine does win, there's a big difference in how much blood they have to spend for that. It matters.
So I in no way am relaxed about it. At best Russia can be fricked but still badly frick others as it goes down.
That moment in time is gone, the EU has started massive operations to produce and supply arms that start to come online now and just ramp up further. From F16s to additional munitions factories to armor factories to jets. Russia is over. Its quite possible that the French and Poles would go in if it even looked like Ukraine might fall. The EU can supply Ukraine indefinitely and completely outmatch Russia economically.
>The EU can supply Ukraine indefinitely and completely outmatch Russia economically
Not quite, EU countries are putting in minimal amount of GDP into direct support, about 0,5-1%, whereas Russia is ramping up and already at around 40%, which works out to around ~100 billion vs ~750 billion. Sure, the EU defense sector is ramping up and production is going to kick in but who knows whether the political will to continue and even triple the expenditure to support Ukraine is going to be there in 2 years. We can't write off Russia just yet. Putin is willing to collapse the country to keep himself alive and the rest of them are willing to do it because they don't want to live with the humiliation of being beaten by Ukraine. To their psyche it's about the same level of damage if Cuba fought the combined might of all US forces to a standstill and then caused a complete military defeat.
And in this analogy Cuba also annexed the state of Florida
What? Ukraine never annexed any Russian territory, are you confused or a zigger?
That's what the Russians - and the vatniks especially - think. To them Ukraine is an illegitimate state and they are taking back their rightful clay. If Ukraine were to take Crimea, it would be an annexation of their territory by people they view as pitiful, peripheral subhuman hillbillies. I'm sad that I have to spell this out to you anon.
You are confusing GDP with gov budget in Russia's case. They are spending 7% of GDP in 2024. Not 40%
>You are confusing GDP with gov budget in Russia's case. They are spending 7% of GDP in 2024. Not 40%
Which to be clear is still an absolutely stupendously high level of money in the modern era to be pissing away like they are. You can go back in time and find far higher for sure, the USA actually did hit 40% of GDP, genuine for real GDP, in the heart of WW2. But of course on an absolute level our total GDP was also far smaller, and we were less productive, and less advanced tech, money didn't go as far in terms of $/military capability.
Ah true, I checked the numbers a while ago, my mistake. US and EU combined are giving more support in that case, but Russia is still outspending them individually and I would expect that 7% to rise substantially. Putin's government has enough support that they could, and likely will, go full war economy. Attacks on Russian refineries and other war production need to increase dramatically. If the rules don't change and we only keep up the pace of support in terms of GDP then this war will drag on until both countries face demographic collapse in the next 20 years.
Whay US and EU have to do is stop guaranteeing Ukraine survival and switch to ensuring that Ukraine will win.
>Tsar Monke has completely ruined the Russian arms stock of vehicles
Weapons are supposed to be used, not rust away in the desert like American tanks are doing
Alos Imma need a source about those stocks being "completely" used up. They do seem to just keep coming and taking ground
>los Imma need a source about those stocks being "completely" used up
>m
I dunno if you're the one who made it or not, but here's the non-ant version from that other thread
We really need proper visualization pics of the total losses Russia has taken.
>F35
>Eurofighter
>American
dah, flown by borris jhonson bio engineered gigga homie super soldier hohols
>Delta Wing F-35
I'm cooooooming
Black person you store metal objects in the desert because they lust a frick ton slower because there isn't any humidity in the air.
you slab a coat of paint on it, put in some dehumidifiers down the hatch and seal it all up good and you can keep the metal of the tanks good for pretty much ever
russia on the other hand does't have its main storage yards in a desert but in the taiga, reclaimed bog land, plains ect.
You can bet those vehicles didn't enter storage with nearly as much care as the burgers put into them and they sure as hell haven't been getting any love since the fall of the soviet union.
>rust away in the desert like American tanks are doing
>He doesn't know how rust forms
Kek
>not rust away in the desert like American tanks are doing
kek here's a (you), you got me to smile and respond
>You can't win a modern war as the inferior power without taking it to the enemy.
Explain WW1 then.
>Explain WW1 then.
>WW1
>modern war
>not taking it to the enemy
>inferior power winning
?
>starts chimping out
>ukies get more Western aid
Go ahead, try it.
Poat the new European aid packages that aren't thoughts and prayers with interest loans.
Oh, right, my bad.
Jesus its here?!
I am actually proud of my country for the 1st time in a long ass time
Total AD Death
>Doesn't even try to hold his joy at the idea of civilians dying
Why are vatniks so despicable?
Also, I doubt ziggers can bomb it more much more than they already do, or they'd already be doing it. They're not held back by their humanity (of which they have basically none) but their own incompetence (of which they have plenty)
Anyway, try to not seethe too much and enjoy the smoking accidents
Check'd
Raise that fricking eyebrow homosexual and slip that glove off while you shove an ass in your ass. You're military genius Putin just destroyed the Russian army by getting most of its remaining equipment destroyed over winter. Let's see your parade of Chinese golf carts and Alibaba dirt bikes.
Where's that fricking bridge on the map again and why is it still standing?
>Where's that fricking bridge on the map
immediately east of the eastern-most section of that map
>and why is it still standing
because whatever means to damage the bridge again are not of a force so overwhelming it is flawless. Any route won't be exploited until that exploitation has its greatest value, otherwise the Russians will just find an alternative/repair it.
Similar to a software vulnerability, you use it AND you lose it. So, better make it count.
>disgusting, unwashed hoards (Russia) try to capture a city but end up getting encircled and then slaughtered by the good guys (Ukraine)
I agree!
So fricking nothing happened? All damage is reported to be light and Russian Troops have all successfully made it back to their headquarters!
The problem will be fixed when aid arrives.
Also why was this post deleted?
Why the frick did specifically my post asking about the seriousness of the situation get deleted. It wasn't in bad faith and people responded appropriately, too. Your payment this month shall be cut in half, fricking jannie.
There was some vatnik earlier saying how Kharkiv will be destroyed so I think the janny is deleting anything that he thinks might be from a vatnik.
one of the jannies is pakistani so he deletes all the jeet shill spam out of pure hatred for the jeets (not vatnigs), not realising they are one and the same
>so he deletes all the jeet shill spam out of pure hatred for the jeets
jannie sama, I kneel
>I keep reading about the breakthroughs
Where exactly do you read about them?
NTA but to be fair, the vatniks are capturing kilometers instead of meters, not really a "breakthrough" since most of these capture happened because the Ukrainians withdrew from those positions.
Mainstream media hay actually been reporting break throughs in the last couple of days, at least in my yuro cuck country. They're always doom posting and don't know what the frick they're talking about, though (duh). That's why I asked.
They've managed to advance in kilometers instead of meters for the first time since before Bakhmut. morons are calling this a breakthrough for some reason even though the real issue is not enough manpower in the Ukraine side for the first time in the war.
read incel slava Z for a russian wiener im tryin to berry
Are S300 and S400 the best suited (claimed) Russian AD for intercepting ATACMS or should there have been other AD defending those sites?
Pantsirs and Buks have declared counter-ballistic capabilities.
IIRC Puccians accidentally gave out last year that their vaunted S300s and 400s can't detect ATACMS either when launched or on their flight path. The specific incident was when ATACMS blasted 3 S-300 batteries in Luganda around the same time the Ka-52s got obliterated. Some seething zigger made a telegram post about them only being detected by an older air defense system before it was too late.
>old system can detect ATACMS
>newer systems can't
>ukrainian soviet equipment works
>russian mafia state equipment doesn't
really makes you think
There's a S-500, but only one battery was ever built that's near Moscow. Also, it's been reported to have problems.
I thought pantsir was specifically an anti missile system? They can't seem to intercept storm shadow thoughbeit
S-400 has a very limited ABM capability if it has any at all. It's primarily an anti-aircraft asset. Like the other anon said S-500 is supposed to be the ballistic missile counter so ATACMs have been eating these older systems alive. The 100% need other weapons defending them regardless of the target though, the IADS concept relies on mutual supporting systems with different capabilities.
Pantsir is mainly supposed to counter cruise missiles. Ballistic missiles are extremely fast in comparison. Pantsir seems to have issues with missiles actually hitting and issues with detecting LO shit like drones.
AWACs losses are huge yeah. Another reason CAPs would be exposing themselves too.
I've been out of the game for a while, is Gerasimov making public appearances again?
He made a wild appearance some time ago, but it's rare. He's fired, discarded, disgraced or just forced to retire
He voted in Putin's bullshit election and get this he had a weird limp the whole time he was on camera.
>Old war wound
>To the ass
The best thing about the Gerry and Soigoo Show is that they do enough to keep their jobs, make sure anyone competent is killed off before they can make a decision that might actually benefit Russia's military and the feed the Tsar the kind of bullshit he likes to prevent him completely chimping out again. But so far they've also avoided being any good at long term, strategic thinking apart from bogging Ukraine down with meat bags and firing off enough missions to keep the fight going.
If Ukraine has to give up a 200-2000person village say, once a month and it costs 300 armoured vehicles and 20k dead vatniks its a territorial loss, but its coming in at an unsustainable loss to Russia and all the while western aid is now flooding in, long term defence support is being signed with Ukraine and their country is kept solvent.
No one is coming to Russia offering any kind of aid, in the best Ivan Drago child raising advice
>If he dies, he dies
Its because Gerasimov and Shoigu's job is to make money including for Putin. They're doing their jobs right.
Somebody poured salt on corpses thats what happened. You can tell by the webm
Ukrainian missile strike reported near Dzhankoi, Russian-occupied Crimea tonight.
Russian air defenses active with reports of multiple explosions.
>2min ago
That was 2 days ago moronkun
no it's right now
No fricking way, again?
AIEEEEEEE MONKE MAN SAVE MEEEEEE
>the 12 dudes out of hundreds who did heart, laughter, or thumbs up, or shrugs
Kek. Based on this highly scientific sample is appears vatniks aren't all bad and 3.1% of the total population is in theory potentially worthy of not being exterminated. Good going folks.
>multiple explosions
>shrug emoji
>they do be like that
What about the fire one, they seem pretty excited.
>What about the fire one, they seem pretty excited.
Ambiguous. May just be turbo autist literalists.
>tfw clown emoji got terminated
>252 butthurts
Dubs and another oil refinery is hit today
Rolling for 50% AWAC casualties.
do not panic!
air defense is working hard
Saaaaveeee meeee Putleeeeer!
People really should swear less.
Full of fricked up.
I am tired of waiting. I am tiring of Ukrainians prepping the field and methodically wiping out Russian AA. I want the Crimean Bridge destroyed, Kalingrad blockaded, the Kuril Island retaken, and Transnistria invaded. I want the graveyards of Moscow and St. Petersburg full of dead Russians. I am a moderate and this war is progressing far too slowly for me.
My fellow moderate, let's bring out the Tomahawk ground-based launchers and let them rip.
Filthy liberal talk, I am in favor of nothing less than a full carrier group.
Fricking fence sitter, being so moderate is just going to get you laughed at, be more assertive with your stance about the conflict!
You are far too gentle toward the ontological enemy of civilization (and of my precious /k/).
Total Zigger Death, Total Tankie Death and Total Wogshill Death is but a gentle beginning. They chose to attack my beautiful /k/ and for that there is no forgiveness.
they will be invading the baltics somewhere during the next five years so you will get your wish. If ukranians end up prepping during that time and launching a counter invasion into occupied ukraine its going to be a unironic two front kino. Also such brazen arrogance will remove all objections (sanctity of le international borders) towards deleting trannisistria in a joint ukranian-moldovian police operation
snow monkeys are going to burn from the finnish bay to the azov sea just like the good old days before burgers started simping for the red plague
>they will be invading the baltics somewhere during the next five years
with golf karts?
Sure, it's no less insane than half the shit they've been doing for the last year. They literally put tires on planes to try to hide thermal signatures and/or bounce drones off them (this is the funnier option).
>when ERA means
>Elastic
>Rubber
>Armor
Majesty
Now you imagine a line of golf carts advancing along a road while Hell March plays in the background.
Golf carts, loafs, and turtled-up T-62s. Oh boy.
I believe they will do some hybrid shit. Local Russians will be encouraged to rally for years in advance. I wonder if one of the baltic states will start mass deportations of the most hopeless vatnik cases..
Anywhere with 'Ethnic Russians' needs to get rid of them, back about a decade or so ago, Putin was pushing for the 'savior of the Russian race' bullshit that he thought were left behind at the collapse of the USSR. So if your county has a lot of these homosexuals running around identifying as Russians, speaking Russian and aren't integrating into your country- chuck the c**ts over the border
>they will be invading the baltics
They already started usual "we got attacked and now we have to respond" propaganda with Lukashenko claiming Minsc was bombed with Lithuanian drones.
Doesn't matter, they have nothing to even try that with. They can't even defend their country from incursion. What the frick imaginary bullshit are you proposing they "invade the baltics" with, you dejected glavset prostitute? Frick you.
go and ask lukashenko about it reason for that nonsense then
https://apnews.com/article/belarus-lithuania-drones-claim-ab7b011914cea2344a76d05ccad321f1
No, the point is that you're so aggressively dumb you started listening to Lukashenko at all. And you expect people to do the same somehow.
Step up, homie.
>apenews.com
pottery
Lol. If Lithuania gets touched Belarus would be decapitated, Ukrainians would get a lot of toys and Indians would be punished. You gotta punish the entire system when part of it breaks. Brics bros unite lol
T. America
This may sound weird, but I have fapped to her. She unironically had quite nice legs, and there's a photo of her riding a bike or something where her skirt rides up to mid thigh level.
I’m glad I’m not the only one, I thought I was fricked for having those thoughts about her but now that I’m not alone I feel a bit better
>they will be invading the baltics somewhere during the next five years
With what army? The one that's busy bleeding itself to death in Ukraine?
Anon, don't think of the time spent prepping, but instead the joy of watching that Ukie Yak-2 from Odessa doing strafing runs unopposed as the Russians have nothing left that they can use to shoot it down.
>salting the dead
R he going to eat em? Dogs was not enough...
Gotta pour salt on the meat cube so it doesn't go bad.
Too bad the museum scrapped that last year.
Damn, I thought they were going to restore her to Volksmarine colours. Shame.
good morning sir!
Looks like the cassette tapes struck again.
Ruskis ook about how good their kinzhal is (except when the patriots take it out), but don't seem to be able to stop even a non-stealthy truck-sized missile that flies straight towards their fricking AA of all things.
How? What happened with the capabilities of S-400?
It's called huffing propaganda feed by the state for decades. You're dealing with a cargo cult of sub IQ apes
Fact. When I was last in Russia about a decade ago, there were sanctions cause Russia had just attacked Ukraine and occupied Crimea. I remember a billboard on the street with a Topol-M TEL on it, with the caption Caнкции Toпoлa нe cтpaхaют - sanctions don't scare the Topola.
Truly a cargo cult.
Sorry if I wrote it incorrectly, I don't actually speak Russian, Bulgarian here. I just understand it on the common Slavic roots.
It really is amazing how the Russians have turned the concept of MAD around on its head. We've gone from:
>Okay, any conventional war will blow up the world, so let's stick to proxy conflicts and try to reach detente
to
>Okay, so I can blow up the world, so you can't do anything to stop me if I invade Europe unless you want to trade New York for Hamburg.
Entire civilization of James Bond villain and henchmen.
The point of MAD is precisely to neutralize the nuclear threat. Deploying nukes doesn't win you anything, so you can proceed exactly as before. That includes conventional war. In no world does it hold nuclear-armed states back.
>Hamburg
They couldn't even hold Kherson.
They can feel their relevance slipping away. They will probably fire the nukes once they run out of stockpiles to hurl at the lines.
that would be their last, and final, mistake
That was always the Soviets logic, it just so happened they were afraid the U.S. was willing to make that trade. A global power that threw 40 million of it's own into a grinder without blinking, and some McDonald's eating, baseball playing, rock n roll blasting Yanks kept the fear of Oblivion in their hearts.
No, the Soviets were run by people who understood that if Moscow, Warsaw, and so on got nuked it was the end of the Soviet scam and they'd be eaten by their own soldiers as they sulked in the bunkers. Meanwhile in the US most of the country would survive.
I hate that I can read cyrillic runes now.
Why? It's a cool script, one of the best IMO. Very little ambiguity, except with the fricking ~vowel modification thing that they do without writing it, like "Ana" being read as "Anya". Slavic languages have a ton of similarities to Spanish/Romance languages like that. See "sureno" vs "surenYo" Same method of pluralization too.
Spanish has ñ to explicitly denote the “ny-“ sound, moron-kun. It is distinct from regular n
nobody writes it any more
Everyone still uses ñ.
With any luck, soon the only place Russian will be spoken will be in Hell.
And Cyrillic has я to explicitly denote the "-ya" sound. It is distinct from regular a
>when your missile literally can't see where it's going
>when your missile literally can't see where it isn't.
The missile doesn't know where it is at all. It doesn't know this because it doesn't care. However, by subtracting where it could be from where it isn't, or where it can't be from where it was (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.
The guidance subsystem uses generic vatnik logic to generate anal corrective rape commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it could be, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
It is at this point where the missile doesn't know where it is because it no longer cares. it doesn't care because it's a vatnik weapon and all targets are valid targets. to determine where it has to go, the missile figures out where it came from, realizes the innate hopelessness of its existence, and promptly suicides itself against any nearest kindergarten or hospital it can find.
The missile knows its place in the universe at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
is there a single russian telegram group that allows using the clown emoji as a reaction?
The Trad-Russian burning times are back where everything they own will be set on fire
Feels good
>disabling AD
so are they opening pathways for F16s?
yeah, they're shaping the battlefield to improve survivability of the coming jets. They wont be able to get air superiority but they'll bet able to cull and suppress immediate threats in Crimea. Russia wont be able the safely base aircraft on the peninsula due to ATACMs so their response time will be longer. Existing SAM sites have been proven vulnerable to drones and ATACMs already, so it'll be a matter of finding and hitting them. This makes Crimea vulnerable and by extension the bridge, at the very least it 100% means the black sea fleet stays well away too.
The nice thing about the F-16's is that they're no strings attached, if Ukraine can clear up enough anti-air they can fly those c**ts downtown Moscow if they can get away with it
>F16s flying over moscow firing missiles at the kremlin
my erection won't go away
if it lasts more than 4h, call your doctor
it can actually wither, gangrene and fall off
There's also some implications for other sections of the front in the scenario that Ukraine is able to really start suppressing assets in Crimea. In a scenario where Russian long range high performance AD is heavily damaged and significant effort is placed into hunting down medium range systems (now made easier but reduced long range threats) it opens up a lot more options for CAS across the Dnipro. They still likely wouldn't win out air superiority but it'll be much more permissive. MANPADS and CAPs would still be a huge problem. Most of the S-300/400 systems that have been destroyed in Crimea haven't actually been the ones set up right next to the bridge but the ones closer to the north side of the peninsula. Assuming they are the ~250km missiles that makes nearly all the airspace above Kherson to just shy of Kryvyi Rih within range. I don't think it's feasible to completely sanitize Crimea of all long range SAMs cause Russia will just reinforce them but they would force Russia to hold it's assets closer to the bridge and make the airspace over Kherson much safer. If they knocked out all batteries north of Sevastopol then the most common S-400 missile in use only has the range to reach right up to the Dnipro and not much beyond that. Theoretically alloying Ukraine to fire JDAMs from higher altitude beyond effective range. IIRC glide bomb effectiveness was low because Ukraine was forced to fly so low and avoid detection.
There's quite a lot of focus on the armour in terms of their sustainable nature of those vehicles, but the AA systems have their own special hell with them. A lot of the short-intermediate range stuff has been getting blown up, stolen by tractor gypsy and droned to hell and back, which you kind of expect that they're going to eat a bit of shit once in a while being close to the front.
They are however, very expensive. 10-25mil a throw sort of covers most of them
So they don't just have thousands of these things lying around in a Siberian rodent sanctuary to pull out of a bog, slap some paint on them and off you go little fella. Once they pop, it takes a bit to get a replacement.
Bigger SAM systems are just endless cash, individual launchers not so much but the payload is expensive on S300-400 and you're still got to have the detection radar, the networked AA system and the attack radars which are BIG SPEND time. Some of those radars they're hooked up to are 100mil a throw and every time one of them gets evaporated, it could be well over a year before they've made another one. On a frontage scale like Russia has in Ukraine they will need at least half a dozen of those and its completely impractical to have them scattered all through the Russian countryside- If their is a gap it gets real ugly, real quick before anyone can do much about it.
I mean, they'd have to rely on their airforce to scramble and intercept
That's not exactly a great option in a hurry and running interdiction missions aren't necessarily something Russia has traditionally been very great at
Yeah this is why I think the Crimea DEAD campaign will have a big effect and be successful. Building replacements aside if they have to move assets from other areas to cover the losses it'll mean less coverage in said areas. Ukraine's drones already fly into Russia itself easily (even if a lot go down) so even less coverage can have an even larger effect. It'll be long and slow but if Ukraine is extremely careful I can see them over time eating chunks of Russian air defenses. FPVs in particular have been hunting lots of BUKs. HARMs fired from F-16s and not Black person rigged tablets taped to the wienerpit of a MiG should be more effective. It would force the Russian Air Force to potentially engage their planes and expose them more as well. All this in tandem with additional air defense could curb the issue with all the Russian FABs dropping - it'll still happen but they can reduce it. I generally don't hold my breath for shit but Ukraine has been highly competent in the air for the majority of the war so with better tools I hope that they can do more.
The other massive hole they have is probably slightly more pressing in that they had A-50's up to cover the more sensitive areas. I think they've got at least 4, maybe 5 of those left which probably means you have 1/3rd in overhaul, 1/3rd in refit/provisioning and 1/3rd being on active duty at any one time.
For a country the size of Russia, that's a massive problem of national security!
If they where serious about air defense there would have to be 30+ AWACS birds on their roster and if anyone thinks they can magic up a solution overnight to that kind of dilemma... nah! Not happening
>Blyad there’s F-16’s over the MKAD!
moron, Zelensky gave promise to Biden that F-16 won't fly on Russian territory
>gave promise to Biden
(who is probably not the next US president)
>Russian territory*
*as per recognized by US and NATO
It was the Norwegians that said they don't give a frick where Ukraine uses their F-16. Sucks that burgers have the final word since in that case a lot of them would be with no strings attached.
>moron, Zelensky gave promise to Biden that F-16 won't fly on Russian territory
And Russia and the US both promised to protect Ukraine when it gave up its nukes and Russia also promised to abide by numerous international treaties. Huh.
>And Russia and the US both promised to protect Ukraine when it gave up its nukes and Russia also promised to abide by numerous international treaties. Huh.
No such promise. The agreements that you're talking about are about a single page long, go read them.
Explosions were heard at night in occupied Simferopol and Dzhankoy
According to locals, the first explosions occurred at about 1:25 am, with more than ten powerful "pops" heard in total. The Crimean bridge was blocked for almost 2 hours.
According to Krym.Realii, the pops occurred in the places where the russian deployed air defense systems: Bastion and Pantsir-S1 air defense systems.
They are going for it aren't they?
Why would you attack your own country lile that? "Mainland" Russia id understand but this is stupid and not a good look if you want to get back the region
Every traitor that simped for Russia will die. Simple as that
>your own country
Enemy assets on your territories.
>Crimea is Ukraine
Wow the shit gets better with each rocket.
>you're not allowed to destroy enemy equipment in occupied territory!!!
seriously? this is the best you shills can come up with?
>Uhm, why are the French shooting back at Verdun? Do they know the shells hit their own soil?
Cannonballs being used to bombard Simferopol
The image file of the translation borked, but the post is claiming that this is a cluster sub-munition. This seems to be too smooth and does look like the cannonballs they have on monuments and in museums.
Maybe it's from a Russian arms depot?
Haha, that does look exactly like an old cannon ball.
>an ATACMS strike was launched at night on April 28th hitting S-300 and S-400
It keeps happening and I just don't understand.
Aren't those things pretty much designed to shoot down aircraft and missiles? Isn't "this is flying literally right at me" situation one of what should be the easiest targets to intercept?
because Puccians can't properly detect ATACMS, see my post here
These are networked AA systems anon
So you have a big battery of scanning radars with the long range all set up on the ground, you've got an AWACS overhead providing gap coverage and also the go-no-go in the kill chain. When a missile or aircraft comes into the scanning radars, the AWACS either sees it or the operator of that radar goes
>'Heads up Pidor, this is coming in on your vector'
The scanning radar ID's it and in a lot of cases this is centralised in the AWACS with all the big brain guys
>Got an ID on target, not ours
The AA missile operator starts pointing their attack radar in that direction, soon as they get a signal and it matches the bearing they'll prosecute it with a strike- hopefully!
What's happened here is the systems don't seem to be as well networked as they once were. There's been two A-50's shot down by Ukraine and that's gutted their C3 (command, control, communications) with the AA operators, then on top of that there's been big hits all over Crimea wiping out everything from the 100mil Container OHS radars and constant strikes on anything else that's beeping and booping away.
That just leaves the basic b***h AA command unit, their basic b***h scanning radar, the attack radar to lock on and whatever launch modules are in their company.
>ATACMS comes in
>homie is running like he's just found out he's a dad
>Mach-3
>You pick it up on your basic radar at say 30km away
>That's great!
>No, that fricking thing is moving at 1000m/s
>You have 30 seconds to ID what it is
>You have to bring the attack radar to bear
>Lock it on
>Fi...uck!
This is why its not the speed or range of your missiles is important in AA, they can be accurate and hit bullseyes all day. What matters is one thing
>Detection Range
If you don't know until its too late, you get the bad dicking
All fricking moskals must fricking burn.
Only do that 3,000 more times til russia is depopulated
>russia will win in an other 2 decades
there fixed the name for your gif.
>it took 4 months to advance 4 miles
What's more grim is that it's not even that Russia keeps pushing back Ukraine those 4 miles. Those 4 miles were just the open ground to reach the new line of defense.
More like 6 months, this offensive started in october 2023...
I meant more specifically the "total collapse of the front" after Avdiivka. Because Russo shills can't comprehend the concept of setting up a new line that isn't 10 feet from the lost line because all they care about is painting the map not actual strategic thought.
>4 months and 40,000+ dead mobiks for this
Literal Verdun moment.
now zoom out
>Semenivka
>Russians died for that
Just send in the serbs.
>According to Rybar
>Russian sources
Imagine the full extent of the damage if they are admitting this.
>According to Rybar and other Russian sources
So basically the kremlin then The guys who lie all the time about everything.
Dzhankoi is turning into the new Chornobaivka at this rate.
I'm surprised not a single zigger posted even part of the BDA for the ATACMS hits. FSB glowBlack folk must be deadly serious about making things look at least less bad.
Rybar was crying about last night again
>missile
>literally called Attack em's
how did they get away with this