atacms for Ukraine

its happening. also this in the NDAA so more than likely it'll get passed

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So no more than 53 ATACMS

    Will this be enough?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Considering Puccia used thousands of cruise and ballistic missiles and failed to leave a mark, I'd say no.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Puccia
        Cringe

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          you know what's fricking cringe?
          Cringe is when you larp as a military hyperpower for thirty three years then fail to do fricking anything in the country you border for a year and a half

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            But HATO!!11!111!

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            cringe is when you chase hajis in slippers for 20 years and still lose

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah that would be a good what about if only it hadn't happened before

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry we didnt lose in 10 like Russia

                The russian campaign in Afganistan was a disaster, yes, you are right.

                taliban didn't get any weapons from russia.
                usa sent weapons to the taliban.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Puccia with support from 32 other soviet republics, got btfod in 10 years with waaaay more casualties and political fallout. Whereas we won 😉

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry we didnt lose in 10 like Russia

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The russian campaign in Afganistan was a disaster, yes, you are right.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >mention afghanistan when your soviet empire literally collapses and suffered 3x+ casualties in half the time
              cringe

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Puccia is indeed cringy failed state.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They shot at civilian apartments with them so it's not really a surprise.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fired at apartment buildings and areas where they are known to be shot down
        Well placed ATACMS fire could be a game changer. That can reach the Kerch bridge from Tomakivkha, hit airfields or ammo depots, or train tracks/bridges.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It expands the range of the Storm shadows. Even though both may say “200 km” - the airplanes launching the Storm shadows have to stay 50 Kms or something behind Ukrainian lines so they’re not sniped buy vatBlack person s300s.

          Whereas HIMARs truck could simply drive right up to the front line and launch an ATACMs - using its entire 300km range

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >intellets use their entire inventory on a single well defended city
        >this surely represents the peak of cruise & ballistic missile performance
        Get the frick off of /k/ you fricking troony moron

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are countless fields next to targets still bearing craters from Kalibr missiles.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >shoot expensive missiles at apartments, playgrounds, and dirt.
        >surprised it has little to no effect on the military.
        Brain damage from alcohol abuse is a real thing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no less than...
      >so this means that no more than...
      Do you suffer from brain damage? They will send as much as ukraine needs with this being the minimum

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unit price in X year dollars
      You forget that in accounting there is this thing called amortization, which for an asset is usually 5-7% per year.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So no more than 53 ATACMS
      Incorrect, it means no less than 54.

      It's a good start and will definitely frick some shit up. That's possibly enough to deny the bridge, if not it will certainly take out some MiGs on the ground and shit like that.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a start.
      It will destroy a bunch of high value targets and the seethe will be unreal.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it wont change anything, the outcome of the smo was already decided, and tasks were assigned

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      everyone knows everything, the ass is in the ass

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      all parties understand everything

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia will raise its ass, and everyone will know everything.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      An error occured. The wizard must be stopped.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it won't change anything
      >will only extend war
      >puccia already destroyed many dozen
      >no we not need to show proof
      >vehicle arrives to Ukraine
      Like clockwork it goes.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >same truck as the HIMARS
    >less toobs than the HIMARS

    less kino even if more deadly

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >same truck as the HiMARS

      the truck IS the HiMARS.
      >The M142 HIMARS (/ˈhaJmɑːrz/, M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) is a light multiple rocket launcher developed in the late 1990s for the United States Army and mounted on a standard United States Army Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV) truck frame.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you read your own post?
        >The M142 HIMARS (/ˈhaJmɑːrz/, M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) is a light multiple rocket launcher
        Which is
        >mounted on a standard United States Army Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV) truck frame.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>same truck as the HIMARS
      >>less toobs than the HIMARS
      Without the truck it WOULDN'T be a HIMARS, jeez, brainlets I swear...

      P.S: Just like without the Jelcz 6x6 truck it won't be a Homar as well btw.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Homar
        Homar Simpson?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Homar-A.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ATACMS can be launched with HIMARS. Fun fact: the ATACMS pod is concealed as a normal rocket pod so it can't be identified as a high-value target. picrel

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Attack MCDonalds
    >24 hours later ATACMS
    told ya

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >McDonalds gets attacked
      >McDonalds now authorized the use of McATACMS

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >McDonalds now authorized the use of McATACMS
        Chuckled.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      ked´d

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >McDonalds gets attacked
      >McDonalds now authorized the use of McATACMS

      I want to believe that the McDonalds board had an emergency meeting and told everyone to go to their shareholders and have them get their lobbyists on the job.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      We all know ~~*they*~~ control the government.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >for hohols to advance 10 cm
    >and kill thousands of ziggers in the process
    And that's why Russia is losing the war. The goal isn't taking gorudn anymore. It's Total Zigger Death, and it's going damn well.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nuclear option is literally a death sentence for Russia.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    so true zister

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you Storm Shadow.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the difference between HIMARS blast and ATACMS?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      longer range

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do Ukies even need longer range missiles?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Destroy the bridge between Crimea and Russia, Hitting fuel and ammo depots outside of HIMARS range, Hitting train lines outside HIMARS range

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          To reach more Donestk children, of course.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are these the Ukranian children that Russia kidnapped or the Ukranian children that Russia is bombing?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          To frick up the rail links between eastern and western occupied theaters beyond repair and thus end the war.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          forcing supply depots even further back escalating the already strained lines in supplies like ammo. that and unique targets like the bridge

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Used up all donetsk and belgorod children so kursk, rostov or krasnodar children are in season now.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      91kg vs 230kg HE warhead

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      HIMARS is the truck launcher.
      GMLRS is what you're thinking of. It's a 200lb warhead with ~70km range.
      ATACMS has 300km range and a 500lb warhead.

      The difference, besides range, is that a GMLRS is for sniping a HQ or infantry taking cover in a small building. ATACMS is more capable of demolishing buildings as the main mission.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nuclear option is never actually on the table. It would be a complete international death sentence for Russia, its military, and its government.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it isn't a game changer but it will make some impact jej I'm so funny

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >jej I'm so funny
      Have you ever considered getting some rope?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't fpbp his own posts within his own post
        ngmi

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's the "jej I'm so funny" that made me write this, especially the "jej". If not for that, I might have even given a chuckle.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay I am so sorry anon I will only speak the correct newspeak for your b***h ass boomer ears

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >boomer
              Kek, far from it, homosexual.

              P.S. I've killed many boomers in my teens btw.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, HIMARS were a total game changer that completely made large scale offensives impossible for Russia. This will make even defending difficult because it will take days to transport supplies to the front

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, HIMARS were a total game changer that completely made large scale offensives impossible for Russia. This will make even defending difficult because it will take days to transport supplies to the front

      tourist here, why are ATACMS such a deal compared to the missiles already used by HIMARS in Ukraine?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The initial fear was that Ukraine may be tempted to use them on targets inside internationally recognized Russia territory

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I saw the claim from the ukranians I believe it was that the GPS guidance is geofenced on gmlrs. Not sure if that was even possible or just a CYA thing, but interesting if true.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The initial fear was that Ukraine may be tempted to use them on targets inside internationally recognized Russia territory
          I doubt this was ever an issue.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        After Storm Shadow they really aren't that big of a deal. They certainly don't hurt, but Ukraine already has the ability to target areas 200 km away by now

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Storm Shadow requires an aircraft to launch. ATACMS doesn't.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on the amount of Storm Shadows they got, ATACMS expands their inventory, plus being fired from ground vehicles like the other anon said means there's other avenues for attack, particularly since aircraft are easier to detect (though less reaction time against an aircraft than a truck). Really though I think it's more of an excuse to fast forward the PrSM acquisitions in preparation for future conflicts, particularly since the INF treaty withdrawal means we don't have to sit around with "Only 499 km range we promise ;)" stickers on them anymore.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            1000 km, nice.
            What are the chances that Ukraine finds some of these prototypes at the side of the road near the Polish border?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          HIMARS trucks can theoretically get closer to targets than an aircraft can. Since Ukraine can't really do SEAD that extra little bit of range could be very useful.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just means they have more capabilities and stockpiles needed to hurt Russia

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        US planners have an esclation timeline and reeeeee when people go off schudule.
        Every quater has a theme and planners are spergs.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Redline status?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's moving!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Receding.

      P.S. Into baldness.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This made me remember the cope hair of that armchair gaylord

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Redline status, is ukies haven even reached russias first redline

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You haven't even reached our main red line because you were crumbled in a pink buffer zone. The rulers are on the paper and the pencils are working. Stop your escalation efforts or we will sneeze on the drawing.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dorito my beloved

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I NEED the Marichkussy

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was impressed by the detail of her pussy considering the overall style is so cartoony and it's only shown in shadow. The artist knew his priorities.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably because 99% of drawgays do porn for money, always amusing when artists have incredibly well done features in some places like womens faces or asses and then just do mediocre work on other stuff

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cursed hands and feet usually

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >You DO realize that Russia can escalate too? She still has a nuclear option on the table. The West should not do things like that, the Russian Bear is patient, but he also may become fierce and vengeful.

    If Russia uses a nuke, then China & India will be forced to choose between trade with Russia and 100% economic isolation from the West. Russia would be utterly isolated and lack any export market.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not only that, but russian friends will get nuked as well.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao
      Anon it's not about trade or anything. No nuclear power can risk another nuclear power using a nuke in a war of aggression.

      The only reason Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea, Armenia, Turkey or Saudi Arabia don't have nukes is because nobody would dare to use a nuke in an aggressive manner. The moment this taboo is broken all these countries must get nukes. It's either that or death.

      And no nuclear power can accept that. Not China, not India, not the US. Their entire military power would evaporate and every tin pot dictator would sit on the bomb before the shockwave reaches the outskirts of Kyiv.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There wouldn't be just an economic response, the US would undoubtedly engage Russia in Ukraine/sink the black sea fleet.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >

  17. 11 months ago
    skycrown

    [...]

    russia couldn't touch us .which is why they never have

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Russia can escalate if it feels suicidal

    Why do Ukies even need longer range missiles?

    Russia will have to increase the distance between the frontline and their major supply depots

    [...]
    tourist here, why are ATACMS such a deal compared to the missiles already used by HIMARS in Ukraine?

    Because Ukraine could potentially use it to strike inside of Russia.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't bully poccnr.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post Leopard, chuggiesissies Now as an expresionist landscape!

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We will present the ass open as a gesture of good will and when the "mighty" pigg will enter, the ass will clench by force. Then they will know, the brow will rise.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does this mean Iran starts shipping missiles to puccia

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The West isn't escalating the war in any meaningful sense of the term, they simply continue giving Ukraine equipment as they've done since the start of the war (after delays due to dissenting voices none the less).
    If Ukraine invaded Crimea I would agree that it is a real escalation, because that gives Putin the opportunity to get Russians on board with his war, by showing videos of Ukrainian forces invading an area currently controlled by Russia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >by showing videos of Ukrainian forces invading an area currently controlled by Russia
      And what makes this different than any other liberation that Ukraine has done? By the way, the Russian immigrants will literally scatter like roaches far before Ukraine ever steps foot on Crimea.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, Putin can't really fearmonger to his citizens that Ukraine is "invading" territories which everyone knows to be Ukrainian. Crimea has been occupied for 9 years and he's been running his propaganda machine for all this time. It would be easier for him to say look, these soldiers are invading our borders and are surely headed to Moscow! And as the entire press is controlled by the Cremlin there won't be a counter-narrative.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If Ukraine invaded Crimea I would agree that it is a real escalation
      How's visiting your own land an escalation?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukraine invaded Crimea
      You can't invade your own land.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's no longer Ukraine's. Russia stole it fair and square.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If Ukraine invaded Crimea I would agree that it is a real escalation, because that gives Putin the opportunity to get Russians on board with his war, by showing videos of Ukrainian forces invading an area currently controlled by Russia.
      My guess is that the Belgorod shenanigans were a way of testing the waters. Obviously that technically wasn't Ukrainian forces, but Crimea technically isn't Russian territory so it evens out.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So this war is "just" WW1 artillery spam with drones as a bonus?

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick around with the D and find out

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    THIS IS IT
    RUSSIA’S FINISHED
    FOR SURE THIS TIME

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why? It was finished a long time ago.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is a superpower

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wake up, the devs just posted the 300.000 dead ziggers drop

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are ATACMS still as big of a gamechanger as they would have been like a year ago

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, but more long range missiles is always good

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >escalate too.
    There are 2 ways of escalation:
    1) Escalation by introducing new kinds of warfare. All kinds of weapon systems that West provided to Ukraine were already present on the battlefield since 22 February.
    2) Escalation by raising the intensity of the fight. After 1 year of western gibs only 2 fronts of 4 are still active.

    Even providing Tomahawks with permission to hit Moscow won't be an escalation because Russia uses Kalibrs to hit /K/yiv.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I appreciate your roleplaying as a vatnik, you're getting a bunch of (You)s and you deserve them.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strelcope went full schizoramble mode. It's unironically ogre.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      only needed to skim across to the mention of israelites

      they got it bad

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        can we stop pretending israelites arent evil?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I guess I missed the memo, when did we stop?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is he claiming that the russians will get some of the merkavas?
      I want some of what he's smoking.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's being sarcastic (and racist) as frick and it doesn't translate all that well.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, this is why putin was seething today about israelites.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This insane rambling is just so fricking unreadable. I've given up even trying to figure out what vatniks think they're saying with this idiotic word spew.

      I get it. He's buttmad about something. Again. His anus is raised. Someone stuff a banan in it so monke can eat him out already.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >independent political scientists
      I see that he was smoking the good kush
      But honestly, what are the chances that Israel delivered tanks to both parties?
      It’s political suicide, but I would not put it beneath them

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Israel
        >playing both sides
        you're being anti semitic

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that in Moscow there are much more israelites in power than in the government of Ukraine and even more than in the government of Israel itself.
      OH MY GAAAAAWWWWWD

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        is this really still a surprise coming from the country with a israeli autonomous oblast?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          "israeli" autonomous oblast has 90% of ethnic russian population and the number of israelites is <1k people.
          JAO was an attempt at recruiting radicalized but fence-sitting israelites to the left camp, as a counter-balance to the right wing zionism. Trotsky back in the days was that kind of fence-sitting israelites, too, and visited both zionist and communist meetings, but the JAO had never took off and at best had like 25% of israeli population.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not a chance that will be supplied, its a Russian red line.

    ...Man, remember when we actually used to believe shit like that.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Merkava a good tank?
    How is it compared to Leos?

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Stop using the commie israelite name for Bakhmut, you commie israelite lover.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't US DOD value the cluster-bomb-containing ATACMS at zero or even negative dollars because the US has no plans to use them? Saves the disposal cost to give them to Ukraine.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looking at the CMC website the following countries need help disposing of significant stockpiles.

      Bostwana, Bulgaria, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Peru, Slovakia, South Africa, and Switzerland. Cyprus, Indonesia, Nigeria are signatories but have not ratified, possibly because they are worried about the disposal costs.

      Maybe NATO could help out by sending the cargo ship of peace to pick them up and bring them to Ukraine for safe disposal guaranteed to harm no humans.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I mean all those warehouses that had to move due to GMLRS are now going to back in range; Russia is going to have to move more stuff back into Russia and that is going to really frick with their logistical supply lines.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their supply lines are a joke at this point. Ukrainians gained an artillery advantage and are capable of isolating the battlefield. Even if Russians can get materiel in-theatre, they are incapable of delivering it to the frontlines when Ukies are making a push.

      The reason why the front isn't moving is that the Ukies probably arrived at the conclusion that grinding the Russian lines down and destroying their counterattacks is going to result in less casualties than a forced breakthrough. They probably aren't wrong either.

      The only thing that could realistically stop this offensive is Ukies running out of ammo, but since they're so confident in freezing the front for a while to work on Russian artillery and strongpoints this probably isn't coming anytime soon.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They probably aren't wrong either.
        Yeah that worked so well for the russians at bakhmut lol

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Russians had to feed their soldiers into the grinder to get targets for artillery. It was continual recon in force effort that killed 500+ soldiers every day.

          Ukrainians don't have to do that at all, they have access to NATO intel and likely targeting packages, they have a frickload of drones, their entire C2 network is way faster, and they're capable of operating at night to get that data when the Russians are effectively blind.

          It's not at all comparable, Russian armed forces are simply inferior to the AFU and the outcome is that prolonged exchanges of fire greatly benefit the Ukrainians as long as they have the ammo to keep it going. And since they've been stockpiling for about 6x months, they clearly do.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    We should give them conventional Intermediate-range ballistic missiles too.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just fly B-21's over Russia for test flights and have them bomb the shit out of Russian positions. Russian air defence will somehow fail to detect them, it will provide training for the pilots, and Russia won't be able to admit that it happened because it would be pathetic. Simple as, no risk of escalation.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ATACMS = Attack 'Ems!

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    why did they call them "attack-ems" its so dumb. Guys we just made the "Kill-em" missile so you can Kill Em All! :DDDDDDD

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find it very charming that they're called Attack 'ems. It's fun.

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Imagine being proud of not giving a frick about how many of your people die.

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who else supports defenders because they grew up watching Helms Deep? Now that Ukes are attacking, it feels better to support Russia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you start supporting the Uruk-Hai when Eomer showed up?

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