At what point did they realise their 3 day special military operation failed?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Day 2.

    • 11 months ago
      äää

      russia's politicians: they still haven't.

      russia's logisticians and military tacticians: day 2 / day 3. as soon as the IL-76 fleet inbound to hostomel had to turn back, the blitz on the capital was doomed.

      • 11 months ago
        äää

        for anons who don't know, the meme convoy was the force that should have been flown into hostomel / antonov airport by an armada of cargo planes. in classic russian style, driving south was seemingly a plan B that was discounted as not necessary to take seriously, because – why worry about something that won't happen?

        this is a decent synopsis from someone who was there. per him (pro-UA source, obviously) the only casualty his guys took in the initial firefight was one guy shot in the ass.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is real good stuff, are there any other channels like this with these long story perspectives?

          • 11 months ago
            äää

            not sure if what you're looking for is a coherent genre yet, but here are a few things.

            butusov - UA war reporter who is fairly competent without being a journopilled fruitcake. got in a fistfight on tv with a russian shill days before the invasion when the latter tried to argue there was no intention to invade. has told zelensky that his wallet is full in blood and other actually critical shit.

            https://youtube.com/@butusovplus
            ex. https://youtu.be/HLwk8VlRzak

            hromadske - outlet with coverage back to maidan. profiles and slice of life docustuff with units on the front. interviewers are mostly women who let the grunts do most of the talking.

            https://youtube.com/@hromadske_ua
            ex. https://youtu.be/qnjcxlxdHkw

            lviv.media - methodical, if agonizing, interviews with POWs. some of the dumbest motherfrickers out there.

            https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH07EHvBSPTnzddrnwg9VfWjTDyteNo2q
            https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH07EHvBSPTl3PIWnCgdKOVS0NEFwxdj0

            hushchi [thickets] - outlet that does geo docs about various places in ukraine
            https://youtube.com/@hushchi
            ex. https://youtu.be/UjYUpA2rTCU

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              arigato

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >russia's politicians: they still haven't.
        I never thought I'd find myself defending them, but it's not entirely their fault on this issue.
        >Russian frontline commander: THE ENEMY IS FAR STRONGER THAN EXPECTED, WE NEED IMMEDIATE AND MASSIVE REINFORCEMENTS AND ARTILLERY SUPPORT JUST TO HOLD OUR POSITION!
        >By the time that report gets to the General: "The advance is a little slower than expected, and the front line troops would benefit from a little artillery support if we can manage that"
        >By the time it gets to Putin: "Everything is going fantastically, our forces are advancing strongly on all fronts, and there's no need for reinforcements or further support of any kind"

        • 11 months ago
          äää

          the "curse of culture" isn't new and the need to be prepared for systemic, institutionalized distortion of facts on the ground isn't unique to russia. failing to model brazen lies and ubiquitous sloppiness in all things as factors in your executive understanding of how the invasion's going is just incompetence at its most basic.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Morning of day 2.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The moment Kiev Police started pulling out AK74s ands shooting them at Kiev International airport. And Popo getting on their radio calling dispatch.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    When AZOV was asking kadyrovites to come get it in Mariupol.

    the hardcore ziggers still won't admit it.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    On day 7

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there even proof that it was supposed to be 3 days? What if everything is going as planned and Russia intends to drain Ukraine and the West dry in an economic and military battle of attrition.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then it's doing a really, REALLY bad job of it. Especially that part where they opened with a knockoff Road to Baghdad that was on pace to take Kiev in 3 days and end the war there before anyone got invested in destroying Russia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I posted in another thread how years ago Putin estimated he'd be able to take Kyiv in 2 weeks (yes there it is again), so I don't think he was expecting much more than that.

    • 11 months ago
      äää

      yes, with the first phase sketched out in 10-day increments. the russian military operates on this 10-day "decadal" system rather than by weeks.

      RUSI has discussed the timetables in several of their preliminary writeups.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The SAS motto is, "Who dares, wins." Well, this is when you lose. It was a gamble to cut off the head, but it failed fairly miserably. Kind of like Pearl Harbor, even to the congruence of big daddy United States just using industrial capability to wear them down.

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