>At the end of the video, the ship appears to have sunk, with just its bow above water.

>At the end of the video, the ship appears to have sunk, with just its bow above water. CNN could not independently verify Ukraine’s claims and it is unclear from the footage which vessel was struck and when.

At this point, was it even real footage?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-crimea-ivanovets-intl/index.html

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Could have been a arma 3 footage for all we know

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ships can sink pretty fast if they get hit hard enough

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    clearly Arma 3 footage

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240202125932/https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-crimea-ivanovets-intl/index.html

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > CNN could not independently verify Ukraine’s claims
    i.e. they can’t see under the fricking ocean. Thanks CNN. But to be completely serious when Ukraine has claimed to have damaged ships in the past with USVs Russia has released photos of the ship in question sailing into the Sevastopol port with the appearance of being unharmed just by visual inspection pretty soon after the initial claim was made, and usually these photos can be dated by internet detectives and are backed up by western satellite photos that show the ships back in port. The fact that this hasn’t happened yet means there’s more likely than not 50 ziggers at the bottom of the sea being picked apart by some crabs that have recently moved into their new home that’s vaguely reminiscent of a Soviet missile corvette.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Also, literally the next sentence in the article:
      >Russia’s Defense Ministry, the Kremlin and other Russian officials have not yet commented on the incident.
      Because the infamously timid and shy Russian government would naturally clam up when presented with such evidence rather than, I dunno, opening comms and asking the captain “hey, everything okay?”
      It’s sunk.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/OsTsAUs.png

      >At the end of the video, the ship appears to have sunk, with just its bow above water. CNN could not independently verify Ukraine’s claims and it is unclear from the footage which vessel was struck and when.

      At this point, was it even real footage?

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/europe/ukraine-russian-warship-crimea-ivanovets-intl/index.html

      Why are CNN shilling for Russia all the time? I thought they were one of the Democrat wiener-sucking channels.

      You goofs, it's just CNN Newswire doing it's due dilligance that they are just reporting what Ukraine says, not that they personally know if this is true or not. Otherwise, the difference between CNN Newsire and Ukraine spokespersons becomes nothing.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only problem with that is that the same outlets then breathlessly repeat Russian claims with absolutely no evidence presented like the POW filled plane and give them the same kind of credence because they can't independently verify those either, but one is a well documented event with an obviously real video and the other is most likely a complete fabrication to save face for letting a valuable asset get shot down.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Or how cnn reported the one gorrillian babies that died in that "JDAM " strike in a hospital parking lot.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        As other anons already mentioned, it sure is diligent of CNN to remind us that they can't see under the fricking ocean and that it could be Arma 3 footage for all we know. Because Ukrainian and Russian sources are, of course, equally trustworthy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is there any evidence it was the Ivanovets? It could have been any Tarantul class corvette.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are CNN shilling for Russia all the time? I thought they were one of the Democrat wiener-sucking channels.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gomunism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dems don't care about this war so they need to get reps clicks.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >only footage is from the Ukie military
    >can't be independently verified
    Yeah, that's how reality works, unless Russia releases the video calls from Russian sailors saying goodbye to their loved ones it can't be verified until James Cameron takes his sub there.
    We have to rely on indirect evidence like "where is the Ivanovets?" "has anyone seen it?" and "why are bodies washing up on the beach?".

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's footage for you morons

    Also

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  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We already know which ship was sunk, it was a Tarantul-II Class Corvette, Ivanovets. Why is your dumb ass still fixated on this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's literally ESL and doesn't understand

      [...]
      [...]
      You goofs, it's just CNN Newswire doing it's due dilligance that they are just reporting what Ukraine says, not that they personally know if this is true or not. Otherwise, the difference between CNN Newsire and Ukraine spokespersons becomes nothing.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >At this point, was it even real footage?
    Probably, but we'll know for sure in a few months if it never shows up again, much like several high ranking Russian commanders who made singular appearances in video calls and then never turned up again.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      there are satellite images

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to be objective it's almost astonishing how much more honest Ukraine is than Russia
    Ukraine's reporting occasionally is a little too credulous, a little too optimistic, but if their track record is anywhere between 50% and 80% then they're way fricking ahead of Russia who's dad works at Nintendo
    I really can't think of any equivalent where the Ukes came out and went "Hey we just retook Mariupol, no you can't see it" or "the Sahaydachniy has sailed home safely" or "We just blew up the entire Su-57 fleet" or whatever even though you'd think as fellow corrupt slavs they'd be inclined to do shit like that

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >appears to have been sunk, with just its bow above the water
    So did the Titanic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it sunk the way things sink in fiction which means its fake

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Titanic is fiction

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're not supposed to fall for it if it's this obvious dude.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Silly Black person, "it's Arma footage" is the first step in the cope chain, not the 47th long after "it was actually a civilian ship".

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    CIA run news agency:
    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navy-warship-ukraine-sunk-crimea/32801426.html

    >claims
    >appears
    >The GUR claim could not be independently verified.

    It's over.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >russia claims something
    >western media: THIS THING TOTALLY HAPPEND
    >ukraine claims something with video evidence and other proofs
    >western media: hmm this might have happend we don't know

    I understand that there should be caution bit this is ridiculous. Reuters was still taking reports from TASS long after the war in ukraine started instead of cutting ties with them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Journalists are scum, the only way to get them to do their fricking jobs is throwing rocks at them.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ALL DRONES WERE DESTROYED THE SHIP IF FINE
    >SHIP TOOK LIGHT DAMAGE AND WOULD BE REPAIRED IN COUPLE OF DAYS
    >THERE WERE NO ATACK, ITS ALL A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGHN FROM UKRAINE
    You are here
    >FLEET? RUSSIA NEVER HAD A FLEET IN ITS WHOLE HISTORY! WHAT ARE YOU FRICKING moronic?

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wipe my ass with CNN.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't CNN get bought out by Murdoch or something

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