Assuming America lost the naval war to a future opponent and was now being navally blockaded, what could America produced using only its domestic resources to fend off the coming invasion? Assume a total war economy so the complete collapse of the economy doesn't matter in this case.
No one could sustain the casualties that would be inflicted upon them trying to D-day the American homeland.
You can't really defend the coast like you could on D-Day, on account of accurate missiles nowadays.
Not enough missiles would get past THAAD, and it would just get worse and worse for any invaders if they DO make it past the beaches.
Imagine having to try and pass the Sierra Nevada mountain range while constantly being shot and bombed.
>invade western US
Dense urban fighting, then Sierra Nevadas, then vast desert, then the Rocky Mountains. A rifle behind every blade of grass. Good luck
>invade eastern US
Incredibly dense urban fighting, thick forests, then Appalachian Mountains. A rifle behind every blade of grass. Good luck
>invade northern US
Good luck getting through the dense cold forested Canadian wasteland with an SKS behind every tree& a 30-30 behind every rock
>invade gulf coast US
Swamps, gators, malaria, vast stretches of shit-land lacking infrastructure and filled with angry rednecks more heavily armed than most militaries
>invade US through Mexico
Evidently pretty easy
People sleep on it, invading through or having logistics traveling through the midwest would be a nightmare with even moderate action by a defender. The Mississippi Watershed is massive, has multiple major rivers that would require huge bridging efforts to cross if current bridges were blown, as well as hundreds of smaller tributaries. The Mississippi-Illinois-Chicago River creates an uninterrupted water obstacles that must be crossed to go between the coasts.
>invade US through Mexico
>Evidently pretty easy
well it's probably why the biggest enemies of the USA are trying to destabilise it rather than invade
then again, I doubt you need poojet-tier schizo fake news when americans are the way they are
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1. China collapses because only burgers are fool enough to buy they shit
>what could America produce using only its domestic resources
pretty much everything
>Computer chips are made in Taiwan
>Chips needed for literally everything digital
The US has chip plants and is building more right now. The defense industry already uses domestically produced chips for most of the really important stuff as well
Those chip plants require rare earth metals mined in China
Do you fricking think only China have rare earth, you fricking moron?
The USA possesses very few rare earth resources
The China possesses very few Chinese women...and they all prefer American men, guess why?
Well they aren't called common earth, of course we don't have much.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wyoming-hits-the-rare-earth-mother-lode-natural-resources-policy-china-mining-8e559cec
Lol. Keep up, chinaman, this was weeks ago.
why does God only smile on the United States?
It is our destiny to drag humanity, kicking and screaming, into space and the future in general.
why does God give his toughest battles to his strongest, most loved peoples?
Is that why I always take really big shits
>It is our destiny to drag humanity, kicking and screaming, into space and the future in general.
Simple fricking as.
God bless America, the nation of luckiest motherfrickers on planet Earth
Holy shit, you are really a fricking moron. I guess this is Chinese education at work. Rare earth is not rare. Your fricking graphs even said it. Also check it again. Do you realize that most Rare Earth producers are shithole that disregard human safety and right? Yes. The real reason why First world countries do not mine Rare Earth is because they are extremely toxic and harmful to human. Chink mining them because they are not human.
Anon my post was a dumb joke, calm down.
KYS you're self Black person!! !
These are KNOWN deposits, you aren't including the unknown deposits, which the US also has.
The United States actually has some of the largest lithium reserves in the world. It just hasn't set up the infrastructure to properly extract and refine those reserves.
Same with petroleum products. With advancements in fracking technology, The US genuinely has enough natural oil and gas reserves for complete self sufficiency for the next 200 years. Unfortunately, fracking is a boogeyman word to congress so they keep trying to ban it.
Self-sufficiency is a boogeyman word to congress, it endangers their ability to go abroad and collect foreign money in exchange for shipping our manufacturing and purchasing overseas.
they dont, we fracked like a motherfricker, then the saudi's and opec panicked and crashed oil prices. As fracking is more expensive than other oil extraction methods, fracking is only profitable when oil is high. Also they did this twice, so now the people who own all the fracking sites are out of business or too scared to touch it again.
do you know how rare earth elements are mined?
>no
it's just processing a bunch of dirt/rock. there aren't deposits of REEs, it's just bulk processing and requires a bunch of energy, which the US just chooses not to make.
They just found a motherlode of rare earths in some flyover state. Seriously, America's the luckiest country on the planet because it has literally every resource it could ever need.
Then why is it lacking in Asians with fat asses like Korea? This is a strategic resource that must be acquired as soon as possible. We cannot lose the ass race.
Oregon isn't a flyover state. Unless there's another one I haven't heard of.
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Oregon is peak flyover. Completely unimportant but, unlike Iowa or whatnot, suffers under the delusion that it is somewhere important because it has the dollar store version of San Francisco.
>Assuming the completely impossible
>Oh no, they are completely unaffected as they have the resources and infrastructure to be a completely self contained and vertically integrated autarky.
Tell me you don't know shit about geology without telling me. US has massive proven/recoverable reserves of REE it's just not been cost competitive to use them until recently.
Same reason fracking and horizontal drilling didn't catch on until like 2009 despite both the techs being developed in the 1950s-- it wasn't cost competitive with Saudi ez-mode Gwar verticals until that time. In terms of proven recoverable reserves of basically everything, the USA is bonkers OP, and has Canada and Mexico next door which are also stacked.
TSMC abandoned the Arizona plant because the government kept forcing them to take diversity hires.
>Source: His ass.
TSMC already has a fab in Arizona. It is building a second one and is literally just asking for more gibs. have a nice day, you stupid homosexual.
>and is building more right now
DEI literally killed Arizona plant
ignorant. the smallest chips yes are only made in taiwan, but the second smallest can be made in the US. And zero military hardware uses the smallest chips.
>aislop
get out
Terrible morning sa’ar
Only 46 millions?
Imagine if one third of your countries population vanished in the span of about an hour.
life would be substantially better
Heh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima
Knowing the russians they fricked up the list of targets and would throw a few nukes to peruvian Lima thinking they are destroying Abrams tank production.
You clearly have idea how large America is or how much it would take to actually blockade it.
everyone vastly underestimates the massive logistic overhaul America would have to face for this war and the sheer unwillingness from most Americans to acquiesce to it. business leaders would have to have assets seized for free AND not rebel.
now when Seroquel has 20 dollar copays and I can't afford a cat on NEETbux, do you REALLY think they're gonna let that happen?
that being said it super Hitler suddenly rose from the dead we'd probably do it and pull it off at the expense of people b***hing about mandatory did stamps a la ww2
That's basically what happened when the US entered WW1. The Fed just fricking bulldozed anyone who didn't get with the program. The Army straight-up took over S&W, for example.
>and the sheer unwillingness from most Americans to acquiesce to it.
Like 99% of Americans are already getting fricked up by the business leaders, I don't think they'd mind very much
fair point, I don't think of be b***hing about the corporate overlords getting a massive cutback, is be more pissed that I'm only allowed to buy 30 oz. of rib eye steak every month
Don't worry, when the war is won, we can plunder the loser for an economic boom to split the difference. You too can live the boomer lifestyle.
>implying they can’t get the few things they don’t produce by trading by land with Canada and Mexico
Canada and Mexico both have major economic trade with China, we can't guarantee they wouldn't cut off America from trade and side with them in a conflict.
>Canada and Mexico both have major economic trade with the USA, we can't guarantee they wouldn't cut off China from trade and side with them in a conflict.
This is one the most moronic takes I've ever seen in my life. There is absolutely no reason Canada and Mexico would decide to cut off their largest trade partner in order to side with fricking China of all countries.
Please give me even the slightest idea of how America ends up being blockaded in the first place. Your starting premise is so ridiculous that it's not even worth considering, but I will anyways.
The answer is damn near everything. We haven't totally, completely lost the ability to manufacture our own goods, it's just way cheaper to let SEA run sweatshops and ship us the goods. Most things would be more expensive, and there would definitely be shortages and rationing, but we would be able to pull through. We're even in the beginning stages of opening our own rare earth mines, there's one being planned in Wyoming IIRC.
China uses its vastly superior manufacturing ability, especially in shipbuilding, to outbuild the US navy and defeat it on the seas.
>he fricking think military shipbuilding is same with civilian shipbuilding.
Oh, you're one of THOSE bugs.
>chinese '''war'''ships
>working
ohohohohohoho!
Your ships aren't even internally sealed. One hit and the whole thing floods with water.
Two more weeks right?
but fishing boats can't cross the ocean anon
chang how's that submarine that got chink'd doing?
crew status?
Hang on bro I have a current picture.
THE GLORIOUS PLAN SHIPS SHALL RULE BOTH ABOVE AND UNDER THE SEAS!
QRD?
chang submarine hit one of their own anti-submarine traps in October last year LOL
Sadly, there are plenty more subs and way more Chinamen where that came from.
We cannot expect Chinese “technology” to do all the work.
Construction workers don't register for selective service so war might not have much impact on their ability to construct new factories in such a scenario at least relative to their competition.
>now being navally blockaded
that would last maybe six hours before the fleet got annihilated with missiles.
>Assuming America lost the naval war to a future opponent and was now being navally blockaded
How?
>it doesnt matter it's hypothetical
It's two entire god damn oceans and the longest friendly border on the planet of a nation that is basically a proxy, ready to help them out of whatever jam they would find themselves in.
What.
How do you conduct a naval blockade of a continent? What would even be the point when the ships could just unload in Canada or Mexico and then be shipped over the border?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_System
That's the opposite, moron. And also didn't work.
HOW
America loosing a Naval war is literally on the bottom of the "Things that are very unlikely to happen" list.
Black person show me a navy that is not the US Navy that could remotely conceivably blockade even one coast.
Do all chink threads seriously just wind up as endless proof that the US is pretty hilariously far ahead of China? I might stop hiding these.
What's with all the chinkspam lately?
Anything which deflates a burger's ego is 'chinkspam' on post 2020 /k/.
>deflates a burger's ego
Do chinks really think they matter this much?
The is literally no other nation on the planet with the Naval logistical power to enforce a blockade of this type. On top of this doing so would cut off the world from the top oil exporter, the tops tech exporter, and the manager of every major GPS system except for those now being used under Chinese SATs. As for what could be built, literally everything as all USN flagships are built in US naval yards. Some littoral ships would not be as they have been replaced by euro equivalents
Well, first of all a blockade of the USA would be pointless because North America has all the required natural resources and industrial base to be completely self-sufficient without any trade with the rest of the world, and in fact being cut off from cheap asiatic labour would lead to a massive economic boom for the US.
>what could America produced using only its domestic resources to fend off the coming invasion?
Literally everything. US has pretty much everything it needs.
Lots of apples for apple pie and ketchup for scrambled eggs. Little more is needed to unify the country. Maybe baseball.
Couldn’t the US also just get more of needed stuff by trading with Central and South America?
Yes, cannon fodder.
>USN being removed
>enemies blockading the US
We might as well argue about the power levels of comic book characters for as fantasy as this scenario is.