Bought a farm in 21. Didn't realize it had asbestos around.
I need to cleanup/trash asbestos 3mm thick ceiling tiles and also asbestos roof tiles on the ground in a field, and in a ravine. I can't really access the ravine without a backhoe so I'll probably just leave that, maybe try to cover it up.
An old barn has asbestos ceiling tiles in it too. Considering removal options.
It's not too dangerous to just pick stuff off the ground and throw it away is it? I know to wear 3m mask, should I wear disposable suit for picking up stuff off the ground? I plan on paying a removal business for the barn. Removing ceiling tiles seems really dangerous.
First this is not advice, just my thoughts.
The dust particles are the most dangerous. I would suit up and use a mask and make it a little bit wet so the dust sticks. Put the tiles in garbage bags and take them close. Then get rid of them.
What is your proximity to an ocean?
Seriously though if it is a bunch of asbestos that you are disturbing to load up into garbage bags at the very minimum get a good respirator and probably some tyvek coveralls so you can trash them when you are done. Bag up and tie off like the other anon said. If you don't want to pay some exorbitant fee for disposal maybe try and sneak a bag or two into a dumpster in town. don't hit up the same dumpster too much or too often and spread the love around.
Good idea. I have the throwaway coveralls, i'll pick it up after a rain so its wet and it will have less dust.
In western countries you can often dispose it for free since they don't want the situation in your post.
Seriously, don’t just dump this shit for someone else to deal with
Find out what type of asbestos you have
white asbestos is childsplay compared to blue or brown
It's white i had it tested chrysotile
I get it.
If I had to remove this shit and had the land I'd bag it, dig a deep pit and bury it in a out of the way corner, then plant trees over it.
I'm saying that because here you have to pay through the nose to get a "disposal technician" to take away even tiny quantities of the stuff, it's just a money racket here
Only dust may actually be dangerous (if you inhale it); it's the lose fibers that cause problems (physically, not chemically, btw). If boards aren't crumbling it's not really an issue, despite whatever you've been told.
Btw, played literally next to an incandescent board of asbestos every winter for years, as a kid, and no problems whatsoever (and no, not just anedoctal testimony, but a fact).
Hi, I'm a professional and whenever we demo houses we have to deal with asbestos and other fun stuff. First, asbestos is ONLY DANGEROUS IF YOU BREATHE AIRBORNE PARTICLES! So, if you take a few precautions such as not snapping the tiles in half, or throwing them around so they break, etc. you will not be exposed to asbestos in a harmful manner, that being said, I do highly recommend using a respirator when handling the material, putting it into trash bags, sealing the trash bags with tape and continuing to wear the respirator until you have left the area you were working with asbestos.
As far as disposal, just take it to a landfill in the bags and dispose of it. I wouldn't tell them that you are throwing away asbestos, but it isn't going to contaminate ground water or anything like that. It's just nasty if you breathe the dust. If you are going to pay someone, it will cost you a lot, but it really isn't as dangerous as it sounds. If you do it yourself, wear a respirator (RUBBER SEAL AROUND MOUTH AND NOSE!) not a standard dust mask, those things are pretty useless for pretty much everything.
I been considering pouring concrete on the tiles on the side of the ravine and at the bottom.. And then pushing them down into the ravine. I think that would make them less likely to get washed out in a flood. Might just dump dirt on them. Problem is they are lighter than dirt and will eventually work there way to the surface.
Just FYI, asbestos tiles in the ground are not really a problem. Earth tends to stay moist enough to keep dust to minimum and the material is fairly solid to begin with, plus it's outdoors with great ventilation. So if it were me I would just dump some dirt top and call it good. As for the barn, again, as long as the material is in solid chunks and you minimize dust when working (wet it down, use hand tools) then I wouldn't worry too much. The video I saw of a shed ceiling tile removal showed the workers just wearing respirators since no other PPE was deemed necessary (no Tyvek etc). As for disposal, I would personally just bury it with the rest in the ravine. You could alternatively take it a landfill that accepts asbestos but it's not really important in this kind of case, especially for such a small amount of material
>removal
- wear a mask
- wear disposable paint suit
- get a sprayer full of soapy water
- wear a mask
- soak the asbestos material with soapy water spray -- this prevents dust forming when it's broken
- bag the soaky, clumpy bits
- wear a mask
- when you're done, spray yourself down and remove the disposable suit to be bagged and thrown away
- make sure the bags are sealed
- spray your mask, take it off, and throw it away
Asbestos removal is all about dust prevention and control. Simple as.
cant really tell from the pic but is the asbestos loose or cement bound?
cement bound asbestos shingles are pretty harmless since they only release fibers when you drill or break them.
if you bury the stuff in the ravine i would dump the rest of the asbestos in there to, the landfill is no different it does not leach into the water or anything,
But a general rule with burying hings is to think twice if you never need to unbury it again, in a few years you may want to lay a pipe or cable or build something else there, then you mixed the asbestos with more material and disposal prices probably doubled in the meantime.
The tiles are made from some type of cement and don't break easily.
Get some dumb wagies to clean it up for you
normies have been so programmed that even the smallest strip of asbestos strikes fear into their hearts
Does anyone on PrepHole actually know how dangerous it is? If you handle a single panel of asbestos is it going to frick you up?
I always assumed that yes the guys who installed/scrapped this stuff every single day of their life for their job are absolutely fricked. For a PrepHoleer, assumedly you’re just messing with it for a day or two max. Unless you are purposefully grinding it up and inhaling it, I’d imagine its not a problem at all. Please correct me if I’m wrong..
>Muh it gets more dangerous as it gets older
Still, because it is only physically dangerous to have in your lungs (and not chemically poisonous), I’d imagine it would be pretty difficult to get mesothelioma after handling it for only one day.
What’s going to give you skin cancer? One really bad sunburn? Or being in the sun for 10hrs every day for 30 years?
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT 20 YEARS LATER?
nice trips
yeah I mean I’m not saying you don’t need to wear a mask at all, just that you dont need the full “professional asbestos remover” set up unless you’re handling it for an extended period of time or handling a large amount of it. Removing some asbestos along old HVAC ducts in your basement doesn’t seem like it’s all that dangerous.
Someone who actually knows the answer— please enlighten me. From my experience working in manufacturing, there is a massive difference between acute exposure and regular exposure of chemical vapors. I would assume small asbestos particulate would be similar.
Old duct work is some of the worst possible asbestos. It's very puffy white or blue asbestos. It's easily friable by this age.
When o Google the procedure last time it seemed to be:
Suit up.
Suck air out of the work area but hepa filter it
Put plastic bags around the while thing. There was something about a bags with arm holes in them so you could get a tool into break the duct apart.
You also spray them down with water while applying bags and breakijg apart this to reduce airborne particles
Then you put another bag around the bagged section you broke off and take it to the dump. It just gets buried with the rest of the shit. They like to know so they bury it right away I think? Check local disposal problems. Even in CA you're allowed to dump for free so there's no need to be shy about what you're doing
Correct the only hazard is occupational exposure
like 20 years of breathing it in
It's like cigarettes you're not going to get lung cancer from smoking a few years as a youngster. And if you do then you're weak and would have died young from something else anyway.
>asbestos destroyed more treasonous shithead boomer filth than Black folk, Vietnam, vaccines, and car crashes combined
I kneel!