>In interviews, Zevon described a lifelong phobia of doctors and said he seldom consulted one. He had started working out, and he looked physically fit. Shortly before playing at the Edmonton Folk Music Festival in 2002, he started feeling dizzy and developed a chronic cough. After a period of suffering with pain and shortness of breath, Zevon was encouraged by his dentist to see a physician; he was diagnosed with pleural mesothelioma, a cancer (usually caused by exposure to asbestos) >Although Zevon never revealed where he may have been exposed to asbestos, his son, Jordan, suggests that it came from Zevon's childhood, playing in the attic of his father's carpet store in Arizona. >He noted, "I might have made a tactical error in not going to a physician for 20 years."
>Warren Zevon >Had a very famous song named "Lawyers, Guns, and Money." >Died of mesothelioma -- something which you'll constantly see attorneys advertising for. >i.e. lawyers should be what you use first when in trouble.
There's nothing a doctor is gonna do for you though. What do you want, the magic bed from started and they'll just transport all the asbestos put of your lungs?
No, they'll just chop your lungs up and remove them. All the damage has been done
Did you research this at all before you posted? Your odds are terrible but why wouldn’t you at least try treatment. Occasionally people beat odds anon. No, you aren’t going to live very long but why wouldn’t you want to extend your life a little and be more comfortable? At the very least you’re giving cancer treatment more data to work with for future generations. If the treatments make you feel worse and you’re going to die anyway you can always discontinue. Why wouldn’t you at least want to know your options? Don’t be so damn cynical.
You’re telling me you dont do anything to prolong your life/longevity homosexual? My mom’s a conservative Christian and she was diagnosed with breast cancer. A decade ago. She’s clear now. She sure as hell didn’t not call a doctor and I can’t imagine how hurt I, my siblings, and her grandchildren would have been had she not fought and just died cuz “le Internal life”.
it's also literally the single most common cancer for men and - if cases detected at autopsy are included - is the most common cancer in the world by a very significant margin.
ain't afraid of no asbestos, fricking steam pipes are covered in it....cover face and breathe through nose. worked with the shit as a kid and nothing wrong with lungs, just bag clothes and hose off outside to not spread it.
Comes in many forms, some more dangerous than others, friable/nonfriable, the wraps around these are friable, if I dampen before I remove and slap down vapor barrier it should be G2G unless disturbed.
I get how people got fussy about having to wear a mask "at all times" back at the beginning of the plague times, but who the frick works on asbestos without a mask? Like this is some Darwin award Black person shit. This is some "I ran my car in the garage to warm the garage up and now I've got a headache" stupid.
>but who the frick works on asbestos without a mask?
problem is, that shit is insidious.
unless you're doing a pressurized, filtered abatement, wearing a mask "while you're working on it" isn't enough.
Once disturbed and airborne, it'll get sucked through the furnace and blown all over the house.
The warnings on that concrete hardie board are horrific even without asbestos.
I’m guessing California makes them put these warnings on every concrete product
because silicosis is no joke
before man made grinding wheels were available, all the anons that operated the sandstone wheels were dead by age 35, despite exclusively wet grinding.
Now think you are José who cuts concrete cobblestones all day in the blazing sun
The warnings on that concrete hardie board are horrific even without asbestos.
I’m guessing california makes them put these warnings on every concrete product
>listening to California warnings
Sorry, this is a manly man board.
this is the result of boomer morons thinking they're tougher for skirting safety regulations. I would think by now everyone would know about asbestos and that it's never a good idea to work with it yourself.
Although just one exposure isn't enough to cause issues, you'd have to be constantly exposed to it for a long time and even then symptoms for most complications don't start until years and years later.
>this is the result of zoomer morons thinking they're tougher for skirting health and safety regulations. I would think by now everyone would know about covid and that it's never a good idea to contract it yourself. >Although just one exposure isn't enough to cause issues, you'd have to be constantly exposed to it for a long time and even then symptoms for most complications don't start until years and years later.
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. Playing devils advocate and saying Covid isn’t worse than the common cold, your false equivalency is complete inanity.
unfortunately it's fricking everywhere so not much you can do if you work a real job.
Thankfully I moved from IT to Network Engineer with only one possible exposure, so I'm most likely fine.
At least it was artificial stone.
Real granite countertops are highly radioactive and emit radon gasses which turns into polonium.
If it was real stone, he’d be dead already.
To be honest the amount coming off your countertops pales in comparison to the amount coming out of your basement. Ever wonder why your basement has black dust in it? It's lead 210
Next to nobody is going to die from present day asbestos exposures except for illegals with no education working without PPE. And anyways, most of the guys who got sick from asbestos were tradies--not weekend warriors.
This kind of legacy threat is hardly worth thinking about. I worry more about practical threats that are still ongoing.
Dude, it takes decades of working with asbestos, in high concentrations, in an enclosed ventilated space, before you're going to develop health problems. Working with the shit once, outdoors, isn't going to nuke your lungs. Unless he ground all the stuff down, piece by piece, with an angle grinder without a mask and then decided to cut all of his crack cocaine with the dust powder and smoke it, then, uh no.
Asbestos isn't good, but it's hardly instantly deadly.
cancer doesn't happen to everyone, sadly we are not all created equal. those of you who are genetically susceptible to cancer (get tested if you don't know) should avoid carcinogenic products, and stay the hell away from caffeine which enables cancer.
Knew a girl who did lead and asbestos abatement and she said she would wear a full hazmat suit with a respirator meanwhile the boomers she worked with literally wore nothing nor a mask.
I always took PPE seriously when I was a metal fabricator/welder. Got into the trade in 2016 and left in 2019. Hated the smoke and dust I was always inhaling. A guy I went to school with already has a terrible, terrible cough and has started being less active (probably lung capacity issues). He used to weld in the practice booth without a respirator without the ventilation fans on. It just amazes me how dumb people are and how little they regard the importance of safety
It takes over 20 years to see complications from asbestos exposure, and most of those cases are from people who worked with it daily over an extended period. This guy has health anxiety.
ugh more like asworstos
it was asbestos times
it was asworstos times
Hahahahalololol
You obviously don't get it, you moronic homosexual
I'm doing asbestos I did
i only see 1 and 4
there's no number in 5 which is the joke.
if you don't see any of the others you are actually colourblind
I could see it. That means that you….
How does that worm taste?
Same
I really hope you're not an electrician
5 is fake right?
hehe its a joke guys right!?
100% real, trust me.
Now bend over and take it like a girl.
CARLOS!
There was a pile of asbestos on state land when I was a kid. It was so soft and fluffy, we played in it often.
Stop being an over dramatic pussy and go get a covid test. moron
>In interviews, Zevon described a lifelong phobia of doctors and said he seldom consulted one. He had started working out, and he looked physically fit. Shortly before playing at the Edmonton Folk Music Festival in 2002, he started feeling dizzy and developed a chronic cough. After a period of suffering with pain and shortness of breath, Zevon was encouraged by his dentist to see a physician; he was diagnosed with pleural mesothelioma, a cancer (usually caused by exposure to asbestos)
>Although Zevon never revealed where he may have been exposed to asbestos, his son, Jordan, suggests that it came from Zevon's childhood, playing in the attic of his father's carpet store in Arizona.
>He noted, "I might have made a tactical error in not going to a physician for 20 years."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Zevon
There's a reason why he listed lawyers first.
What the frick are you even talking about?
>Warren Zevon
>Had a very famous song named "Lawyers, Guns, and Money."
>Died of mesothelioma -- something which you'll constantly see attorneys advertising for.
>i.e. lawyers should be what you use first when in trouble.
Sorry this went over your head, kiddo.
There's nothing a doctor is gonna do for you though. What do you want, the magic bed from started and they'll just transport all the asbestos put of your lungs?
No, they'll just chop your lungs up and remove them. All the damage has been done
Did you research this at all before you posted? Your odds are terrible but why wouldn’t you at least try treatment. Occasionally people beat odds anon. No, you aren’t going to live very long but why wouldn’t you want to extend your life a little and be more comfortable? At the very least you’re giving cancer treatment more data to work with for future generations. If the treatments make you feel worse and you’re going to die anyway you can always discontinue. Why wouldn’t you at least want to know your options? Don’t be so damn cynical.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mesothelioma/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20375028
Because Christ is King. We will see His Glory in Heaven.
Life is a precious gift and we should not squander it. Just the same, this life is not end, but rather the beginning.
Benedictus Deus in saecula.
You’re telling me you dont do anything to prolong your life/longevity homosexual? My mom’s a conservative Christian and she was diagnosed with breast cancer. A decade ago. She’s clear now. She sure as hell didn’t not call a doctor and I can’t imagine how hurt I, my siblings, and her grandchildren would have been had she not fought and just died cuz “le Internal life”.
Frank Zappas dad brought home mercury for him to play with as a kid.
He died of prostate cancer.
Mercury exposure is known to cause prostate cancer.
it's also literally the single most common cancer for men and - if cases detected at autopsy are included - is the most common cancer in the world by a very significant margin.
You are are confusing Cancer with AIDS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury
ain't afraid of no asbestos, fricking steam pipes are covered in it....cover face and breathe through nose. worked with the shit as a kid and nothing wrong with lungs, just bag clothes and hose off outside to not spread it.
Don’t get that close to the ground… RADON gas is down there.
Oh shit that's what asbestos looks like? I 100% played with that stuff behind my school. That's fricked.
>100% played with that stuff behind my school.
As a kid i should add. Might be why they tore it down and rebuilt.
Comes in many forms, some more dangerous than others, friable/nonfriable, the wraps around these are friable, if I dampen before I remove and slap down vapor barrier it should be G2G unless disturbed.
Not all asbestos looks like that. When i was in high school the roof was covered in asbestos tiles.
Frick me too
I get how people got fussy about having to wear a mask "at all times" back at the beginning of the plague times, but who the frick works on asbestos without a mask? Like this is some Darwin award Black person shit. This is some "I ran my car in the garage to warm the garage up and now I've got a headache" stupid.
>but who the frick works on asbestos without a mask?
problem is, that shit is insidious.
unless you're doing a pressurized, filtered abatement, wearing a mask "while you're working on it" isn't enough.
Once disturbed and airborne, it'll get sucked through the furnace and blown all over the house.
The warnings on that concrete hardie board are horrific even without asbestos.
I’m guessing California makes them put these warnings on every concrete product
because silicosis is no joke
before man made grinding wheels were available, all the anons that operated the sandstone wheels were dead by age 35, despite exclusively wet grinding.
Now think you are José who cuts concrete cobblestones all day in the blazing sun
>listening to California warnings
Sorry, this is a manly man board.
this is the result of boomer morons thinking they're tougher for skirting safety regulations. I would think by now everyone would know about asbestos and that it's never a good idea to work with it yourself.
Although just one exposure isn't enough to cause issues, you'd have to be constantly exposed to it for a long time and even then symptoms for most complications don't start until years and years later.
>this is the result of zoomer morons thinking they're tougher for skirting health and safety regulations. I would think by now everyone would know about covid and that it's never a good idea to contract it yourself.
>Although just one exposure isn't enough to cause issues, you'd have to be constantly exposed to it for a long time and even then symptoms for most complications don't start until years and years later.
This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. Playing devils advocate and saying Covid isn’t worse than the common cold, your false equivalency is complete inanity.
are you suggesting a 1% case mortality rate is worse than a 1% case mortality rate?
No moron. I’m saying that comparing Covid to asbestos is a false equivalency. I can’t state it anymore plainly.
unfortunately it's fricking everywhere so not much you can do if you work a real job.
Thankfully I moved from IT to Network Engineer with only one possible exposure, so I'm most likely fine.
countertop bros are next...
https://publichealthwatch.org/2022/12/02/lung-disease-silica-countertops-southern-california/
At least it was artificial stone.
Real granite countertops are highly radioactive and emit radon gasses which turns into polonium.
If it was real stone, he’d be dead already.
>which turns into polonium
Which almost immediately turns into lead.
That's not how half life works. Also I thought granite had beta radiation problems.
To be honest the amount coming off your countertops pales in comparison to the amount coming out of your basement. Ever wonder why your basement has black dust in it? It's lead 210
> oh, it’s just ultafine molecular radioactive lead dust
Yeah, nobody sees a problem with that I’m sure.
Does radioactive lead taste different from regular lead? Urgent question...
Stone countertops are a pain in the ass. Corian is way better. Zero maintenance and totally inert.
getting anything in your lungs is bad. Wear a mask if you're sanding, grinding, cutting whatever.
find it and spray it with Killz or see if insurance will cover it, they will usually cover water damage.
I think these people confuse working with brand new asbestos vs tearing apart stuff that has been falling apart for 50 years.
Next to nobody is going to die from present day asbestos exposures except for illegals with no education working without PPE. And anyways, most of the guys who got sick from asbestos were tradies--not weekend warriors.
This kind of legacy threat is hardly worth thinking about. I worry more about practical threats that are still ongoing.
Dude, it takes decades of working with asbestos, in high concentrations, in an enclosed ventilated space, before you're going to develop health problems. Working with the shit once, outdoors, isn't going to nuke your lungs. Unless he ground all the stuff down, piece by piece, with an angle grinder without a mask and then decided to cut all of his crack cocaine with the dust powder and smoke it, then, uh no.
Asbestos isn't good, but it's hardly instantly deadly.
Just spray it with water while you break it
That being said, this moron was probably bottling the dust and huffing it
cancer doesn't happen to everyone, sadly we are not all created equal. those of you who are genetically susceptible to cancer (get tested if you don't know) should avoid carcinogenic products, and stay the hell away from caffeine which enables cancer.
>caffeine causes cancer
Only if you live in California.
https://www.healthline.com/health/cancer/coffee-cause-cancer
Ah, acrylamide - again.
Yawn
toxic masculinity takes another anon
Knew a girl who did lead and asbestos abatement and she said she would wear a full hazmat suit with a respirator meanwhile the boomers she worked with literally wore nothing nor a mask.
I always took PPE seriously when I was a metal fabricator/welder. Got into the trade in 2016 and left in 2019. Hated the smoke and dust I was always inhaling. A guy I went to school with already has a terrible, terrible cough and has started being less active (probably lung capacity issues). He used to weld in the practice booth without a respirator without the ventilation fans on. It just amazes me how dumb people are and how little they regard the importance of safety
That's impossible. It's like saying you smoked for a week.
I’m pretty sure I have mold in my house but I don’t have money to get it searched in the walls / fixed
It takes over 20 years to see complications from asbestos exposure, and most of those cases are from people who worked with it daily over an extended period. This guy has health anxiety.