Argentina's president just announced that the US Navy will build a base next to the city of Ushuaia in tierra del Fuego, causing concern among the opposition
Argentina's president just announced that the US Navy will build a base next to the city of Ushuaia in tierra del Fuego, causing concern among th...
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Will Brazil save us?
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Wrong, Argentina wants to re-join the civilized world for the first time in decades.
heh what an idiot
if that base really does come into being it's virtually a guarantee the Argies won't try it on again
they'd either have to expel the yanks from that base first, or have CIA feeding intel from right within the country to HMG
will this deter the fishing ships?
though posting dates back to 1916
The geopolitical whiplash the Argentines experience could power the entire continent for a decade if we could harness it.
>be lolbertarian president of a poor nation
>have a major problem with CCP fishboats raping your EEZ
>instead of writing letters of marque setting privateers against the fishermen you let the US Navy setup a naval base on your territory
I mean I get it, but I really wanted to see privateers in the 21st century
As I understand it, the fishing fleet does its thing from just outside the EEZ, which still fricks the EEZ but it's the maritime equivalent of I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU
>it's the maritime equivalent of I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU
Exactly why privateers are the solution to this problem ;^)
They frick around outside and turn off their transponders to frick around inside the eez as well. If a navy ship starts heading there way they nip out of the eez while laughing.
>they nip out of the eez
chink out
You have to give it to the based Chinks, they have mastered economic warfare.
It's less mastery as much as it is capitalizing on Western apathy, greed, and lack-of-spine.
What can the West even do? The third worlders that China does it to are literally sucking their dicks while calling you a racist colonizer if your try to help them.
get the CIA to fund pirates in secret
A bunch of deep water submarine oopsies off the books without fanfare, report or warning with enough plausible deniability that it would make Nixon blush.
Imagine spewing greek fire there
So the privateers shoot them from just inside the EEZ, and China's only recourse is to send a few warships over to deal with the pirates. The US tells them they're not welcome in the American hemispere and fishing ships are forced to frick off.
>tfw no footage of Argentinian sea-technicals raiding Chinese fishing motherships with assorted artillery, small arms, and melee weapons for boarding actions.
China's naval power projection is shit right now. Argentina could do the raddest shit right now.
Argentina is bound by international law to outlaw privateers
>international law
no such thing
Milei is trying to resuscitate an economy absolutely run into the dirt by socialist graft. While privateers would be mega based, they don't have the money for a military strong enough to counter any reprisals if China decided to see if they can project force. Which is a whole question in itself, but it makes sense to make a deal with the U.S. and get some economic activity from the base while they're at it.
The US would not allow China to project to South America, even if it were a socialist shithole
you homies dont get that china basically buys all the basedbeans in south america
>letters of marque in the current age
>Letters of Marque in the current age: 🙁
>Letters of Marque in the future age: 🙂
Based. It's going to be like a southern hemisphere Kitsap/Bangor, with that geography.
>causing concern among the opposition
weird was to say subversive chinese owned politicians
Not only does this cuck China this also helps them dollarize the economy. All the workers to build it and staff that will occupy it will be paid in dollars.
Ziggers and Chinsects on suicide watch
I love how SA leftists love to cry about how any kind of cooperation with the US or other Western powers means "we are literally slaves now, it's over!" meanwhile actual subservience to Russia and China is seem as independence, it's fricking wild.
It's because they have zero experience with Russia and China. It's like when most African nations were waking up to the fact that China was debt trapping and lying to them about infrastructure projects.
>meanwhile actual subservience to Russia and China is seem as independence
The US has been fricking over latam forever and Russia and China aren't in a position to do the same so they play the benefactor instead of the exploiter.
It's not irrational of latam to play the powers against each other and try to profit from siding with the weaker one against the stronger.
Of course we know how siding with Russia and China ultimately turns out but they have good reasons not to side with US
The Soviets and China funded leftist terror groups in all of latam, where they weren't weeded out, they ruined the country, now they keep propping uo some of the worst governments in the region like Venezuela, they cause as much or worse damage than the US, but it's covered up by the leftist propaganda we grow up with.
>but it's covered up by the leftist propaganda we grow up with.
t. moron
I'm from south america, with a leftist government, the school textbooks unironically praised the soviet union.
NTA but where's the lie? Remove /leftypol/'s wiener from your mouth and read a non-pozzed history book.
Part of it I think is because of the way the economy is typically stratified in LATAM, the majority of people are poorgays. They see direct benefits in handouts etc. in the first few years of rule by these parties, at the expense of everything else. This means that, when the money dries up a few years down the line and the gibs start to decline, the party line of "el imperio" sabotaging their revolution becomes an easy sell to uneducated poors exposed to their propaganda.
>the party line of "el imperio" sabotaging their revolution becomes an easy sell to uneducated poors exposed to their propaganda
yeah, pretty much. anything that goes wrong with their government is some kind of yankee interference, it's their version of the israelite.
Soo what's the catch? argies don't spend a cent on the base in exchange of leasing the land to the burgers for eternity and some rusty f16's?
Would be worth it.
I've been saying the US needs to support Pax Americana for a while now. Glad to see it might actually be happening.
I just looked into this. The integrated Naval Base began construction before Milei got into power. It does not include US presence. At no point has the US stated its intention or willingness to put a base in Argentina. I'm going to go ahead and say this is bullshit by a moronic cosplayer of a president.
seethe
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/SouthCom-to-Have-Presence-at-Argentinas-Integrated-Naval-Base-20240405-0005.html
In the early hours of Friday, Argentine President Javier Milei and Gen. Laura Richardson, the commander of the U.S. Southern Command (SouthCom), held a meeting in Ushuaia, the southernmost city in this South American country.
During a speech to military personnel from both countries, the far-right politician reiterated his willingness to forge a "strategic alliance" with the United States and its allies, suggesting that SouthCom will participate in the "Integrated Naval Base."
seems unlikely that he'd be talking like that in front of the Southcom commander if it wasn't happening. and i don't think telesur is pro-american but i could be wrong.
They're trying to paint Milei as the literal devil selling out Argentina to the "yankees." Note that they don't actually quote him. If he did say something like that, he's a fricking idiot, but I'm starting to say he didn't even say that. At most, you'll see a couple of rotations like the US does all over the place. We've trained with Colombians and Chileans. That doesn't mean we have a permanent presence in those countries.
That's what you get for flirting with the Russians, my white friends.
Say 'multipolar' again!
drop in the bucket.
Is "San Pablo" a NATO military base or is that the entirety of são paulo occupied by the NATO?
something tells me this venezuelan map isn't entirely honest
>telesur
Just shut the frick up, please.
>Puerto Rico
>Panama
That's kind of cheating. Those two have legitimate reasons to have actual military bases there. PR is a US territory and Panama had the canal that was built by the US and they operated it for a VERY long time and Panama doesn't have much of a military force to protect it from hostile interest, but as far as I know the US doesn't have bases there anyway, so I assume those are NATO base for the purposes of training and ensuring travel doesn't go interrupted.
>Malvinas
>Telesur
Mhmm.
>telesur English is an alternative representation for world news. We focus on the people, the common citizen, stories untold by traditonal media.
Hmmm indeed
>drop in the bucket.
Having more bases helps project power into the antarctic which is going to matter one of these days.
Look just give up. Brown peasants aren’t and will never be equal participants in the body politics; elites will just take whatever they can while giving out just enough gibs to keep the peasants quiet, anyone with a triple-digit IQ either works for an elite or emigrates, the end. Most of — maybe all of — Latin America barely even qualify as sovereign states and rather just minor kleptocratic fiefdoms and business dynasties. That’s simply the fate of brown peasants regardless of geography or mineral wealth.
is there a non hue link to this news? wasnt this the site of chinas proposed base just the other year
Why did you choose to be a homosexual like OP and also not include a link?
wow. RUDE
https://www.wionews.com/world/china-looks-set-to-build-naval-base-in-argentina-a-gateway-to-antarctica-reports-551446
Thank you.
Meanwhile, I can't find the source link for OP's article. Which leads me to believe it's an April Fool's article which was deleted, which in turn leads me to believe OP also posted
, and that he's a schizo Argie /misc/tard or some other such nonsense.
this is the closest thing i can find but it talks about cooperation and us naval presence in an Argentinian base already in that area.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/SouthCom-to-Have-Presence-at-Argentinas-Integrated-Naval-Base-20240405-0005.html
why they have a quote from that communist dick sucker ben norton in there i cant really figure out, but maybe because china wanted to be there first.
A lot better than what OP gave us, nice find. From the sounds of the article and the looks of the "base" as it is, I assume there is in fact going to be a lot of new construction.
i just cant figure out why op has to be such a fricking homosexual
Sorry for not posting a link, i found it on tik tok and assumed it woild be easy enough to find on google. Lots of online news sites from Argentina were talking about it today. Everyone is worried that US staff on the base might be given diplomatic immunity. So its causing a controversy.
https://planbmisiones.com/2024/04/05/nota/javier-milei-anuncio-la-construccion-de-una-base-naval-integrada/
>Everyone is worried that US staff on the base might be given diplomatic immunity.
why would that happen, is this common in argentina?
Because US military staff in germany can only be arrested and charged by their own military police when they commit crimes. So it makes sense to think they would implement a similar system if they reallybend up sending people to Ushuaia.
>Because US military staff in germany can only be arrested and charged by their own military police when they commit crimes
This isn't true at all. On any given weekend, the Polizei are out beating the shit out of drunk Americans of every rank. The only laws the US Germany SOFA and treaty exempts services members from are visa requirements, German taxes, driver's licensing, and sometimes you get out of paying VAT. The reason the polizei dump them back on base is because the military will crush their balls just fine while the Germans don't have to pay to jail take the soldiers/airmen to trial.
Stop being a moron.
what does this mean, the translate isnt clear if the abandons the chinese plans or "leaves" as in remains
>a planned port by China nearby the US base is at a standstill (was it halted?)
>suspended work on hydroelectric plants involving Chinese companies
>also decided against involving Chinese companies from participating on construction projects of the Hidrovía (it means "waterway", but that's the proper name for it) and nuclear power plants in Buenos Aires
Seems like Milei is all in on the Freedom Bux gamble.
pog. as much as ive grown to dislike my united states of zog it still feels good to see china lose this one
i wonder what part china even has in the construction of a nuclear power plant, the nuclear plants china does have are built by the french using chinese hands
>the nuclear plants china does have are built by the french using chinese hands
China is that civ player who only trains spies in their cities and sets them on steal tech actions every turn.
They've had French nuke plants for a good while, they'll have transferred that tech by now.
They have some pretty cool hydroelectric stuff going on as well, not even talking about 3GD.
They have like half of the world's pumped water storage plants including about 8/10 of the biggest and they're building about thirty more compared to the rest of the world building 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pumped-storage_hydroelectric_power_stations
t. hiked near one of these in China
of course theyre building water storage, north china gets a fraction of the rain south china does and its going to be running out of water sooner than later.
at any rate, the french are still heavily involved in chinese nuclear power
>of course theyre building water storage
These are actually just about electricity, not water storage. Well, maybe some are both or are connected to each other but usually these sorts of pumped water plants are basically giant batteries to manage peak/off-peak demand. They're a hydroelectric dam with a reverse gear to store off-peak electricity.
I lived there quite a while and observed many weird things about their electricity grids. One of them is that they seem to really prioritise a very short transmission distance from power plant to urban grid.
I'm used to the power plants being so far away that nobody ever goes there, in China they're right next to the city and they need a handful scattered around to cover the area.
It's 100 miles vs 5 miles and I really don't get why.
kek, yeah theyre also probably the only country building fricking aqueducts too
Huh, I've been to Lu Shan. It's the mountain where Mao and CKS were roomies in an old US missionary villa that was donated to the cause by the westerners who left when Japan attacked.
That aqueduct is kind of parallel to or an extension of an ancient north/south canal system that's existed in various forms for about 2.5 millennia.
I've seen the Grand Canal in Wuxi though, you wouldn't want to water crops with that, it's a working canal for light freight these days and small barges go up and down all day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canal_(China)#History
>you wouldn't want to water crops with that, it's a working canal for light freight these days and small barges go up and down all day.
meaning its heavily poluted?
That and if you extract too much of the water, the transport activity would have to be curtailed.
>meaning its heavily poluted?
Yes, water levels are probably a thing too like
says but I was talking about pollution.
It's not a China thing exactly, when I said it was a working canal, I didn't mean in the sense of functional, I meant as in it's an industrial environment.
Most "working" rivers around the world aren't very drinkable, China is just a country where "not very" means "definitely don't"
It's more likely that someone told him how hard everyone who goes in with these Chinese infrastructure projects gets fricked. Their designed to make the country pliant to China through massive debt loads. Javi is an ancap and allergic to that kind of debt driven public finance while also not having the rabid anti-americanism that the previous kirchnerists had. Kills the bad Chinese debt while moving Argentina away from its moronic foreign policy alignments.
>All this falklands, Argentina and bong posting threads
Organic.
I will fricking sign back up if I can get a station in Ushuaia.
> The US sent a girl general.
Embarrassing.
TINY
hope you like your goods used, cause there's no way that shortstack didn't see fifty wieners up her twat by the time she graduated uni
>And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement.
Millei's hair is so based, he should go full Napoleonic-era uniform.
What kinds of milsurp does he collect, /k/?
How does he keep it on his fro?
its not hebrew magic, theres like a little hairclip inside
Was this a press conference or proof-of-life?
Millei looks like he's being held hostage, as if the publicity shot was her price for letting him use US troops as a shield against aggressors.
I bet she facesits like crazy.
>ouuuhhh, tiny milf general erotic!
> During his speech, Milei revealed that he had decided to make the impromptu visit to Ushuaia not only to greet Richardson but also to monitor the status of Argentina’s new Integrated Naval Base. The military facility, which aims to improve the country’s logistic capacity in Antarctica, is a project that the previous administration launched in April 2023.
> “It will be a logistics center and the closest port to Antarctica, helping to turn our country into the entry point to the white continent,” the president said. “It will also help improve the local economy and give support to scientific research conducted by several international Antarctica projects.”
Guess that's supposed to be the "base".
more wasted money
>willingly become a colony
lol. lmao even.
oh no argies how could it have come to this?
more ways for usa to pressure and contain those pesky chileans and brazilians and bits and us eh?
That part of the world is gorgeous. It looks more like Scandinavia than some random place in South America