Arent these dogs used excessively in the military?? Why not just get a pitbull then what the fuck.

Aren’t these dogs used excessively in the military?? Why not just get a pitbull then what the fuck.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pitbulls are too retarded

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dogumentaryTV is a garden gnometube channel for morons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      found a sandmoron. Belgians are perfect at smelling you shitheads

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You dumb moron learn to read. No where was I talking about the Belgian mini shepherd itself.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. They're used in the military because they're smart, easily trained, and can understand complex tasks.
    Pitbulls are retarded, they make awful working dogs. The ability of the dog to fight other animals means fuck all compared to its ability to understand and obey its handler.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Belgian Malinois can be trained to do things and pit bulls…not so much.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because pit bulls are dumb as fuck.

    t. own a pitbull. She’s dumb as fuck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are goddam fast, and just big enough to take a man down. Faster than German shepherds and a bit smaller. Train well.

      This too. Pit bulls are strong and can jump. They are slow and have shit endurance at a run tho. They are the meatheads of the dog kingdom.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should probably just “take it to the farm” tbh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. They're used in the military because they're smart, easily trained, and can understand complex tasks.
      Pitbulls are retarded, they make awful working dogs. The ability of the dog to fight other animals means fuck all compared to its ability to understand and obey its handler.

      I've got a pit bull. He's well trained. They're not necessarily stupid dogs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        id say have a nice day but it'll be more satisfying letting it do the job

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. They're used in the military because they're smart, easily trained, and can understand complex tasks.
      Pitbulls are retarded, they make awful working dogs. The ability of the dog to fight other animals means fuck all compared to its ability to understand and obey its handler.

      Pitbulls are too retarded

      Why do dogs have inherent racial trait differences like high or low intelligence but humans don't?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because humans artificially bred them for certain traits over the course of few thousand years instead of naturally evolving over millions of years?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >few thousand years
          It doesn't take that long to polish a new breed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because there are already so many different breeds
            so it makes it easier to create new ones by just literally smashing two completely different breeds togheter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Take a wolf and see how many generations it takes to look anything like any modern dog breed (spoiler: you'll die before they even get close)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              how many generations for a farm pig to be indistinguishable to a feral pig?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but I'll chip in what I know
                Pigs are kind of weird in that they have a genetic expression which means that once out of domestic captivity they tend to start growing larger tusks, longer hair and becoming very aggressive within months. So by the time 2 generations in, they're pretty much as feral as it gets, dogs aren't quite the same. If you have a domestic dog that's gone feral they tend to have something of a wariness to them which never quite goes away and won't generally go near humans and the same is with pigs. You can get piglets and raise them up to be domestic pigs quite easily, feral puppies and kittens can do that as well but its a bit of a struggle.

                In either case, you're not really changing the breed though. So a Tamworth Pig will gone feral will more or less still be that breed, until it cross breeds with other pigs in the bush and you end up with all manner of mutt-mutants with colours through them. Dogs are the same in the sense that I've come across feral working dogs and domestic pets, but they're really quite a different beast after a few generations. Like feral cats, they bulk up and get fucking wild to the point they're no longer capable of being domesticated as an adult animal- but its that same gene expression happening.
                Some of course, like any animal in nature will not survive, so I don't think we have to live in fear of small Maltese terrier and Chihuahua packs in the wild destroying our civilisation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                would you know what I'm referencing when talking about how they can identify the potato famine from ireland in it's descends DNA?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm familiar with epigenetic change which is sort of more or less genetic expression, where its been discovered that genes aren't necessarily set in stone. However, its really pushing the limits of what I know and not sure how it affects humans in the long term.
                Animals I know a bit about because I raise livestock and shoot feral ones
                I only really know how to shoot people due to the military background so I'm not exactly adept at how they're put together!

                But as humans, yes we definately carry some generic expression, it lets us put on weight and become better at consuming calories more efficiently during lean times, we can get chemical changes if mum was partial to the whiskey during the pregnancy and all sorts of weird shit when it comes to various compensating senses if you knock one out.
                Not an expert there though

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can have 12 pups per litter, every 2-3 months, several generations at the same time, and start breeding them every other year.
            You can exponentially breed them to silly numbers super fast, and the more you have, the more variety you can breed.
            400 years, you can have theoretically 400 direct gene variants, but if you have several hundred breeders chasing the same goal (SMASH AND SLAM) you can theoretically make every single generation a massive gee change.

            It's harder to do it with humans. Possible, but would take 1500 years with full control over who gets to breed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sure anon, human physique and phlebotomy developed differently across regions and races, but our brains are all exactly the same. makes perfect sense

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This video seriously bothers me, what the hell are they doing that for?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            morons proving they can be morons, and a young naive white guy trying to clean up after them.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They want the white guy to fuck them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh my god you just cannot switch off can you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Found the seething Reddit Tourist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if you don't like every thread on every board devolving into the same race circlejerk ur not from round here

            stop using 'GB2R' as an excuse for being a human chatbot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you sound like a cunt who can't take banter

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure they do, it's just harder to measure and even the dumbest human has way more cognitive ability than the smartest dog. Interbreeding is also very popular within people, as humanity in general doesn't breed races in the same way dog races are bred, so you never know what genetic predispositions a person has. Also, it doesn't inherently have anything to do with any outside characteristics like skin color, it just might happen to be that way because of a few factors.
        Understandably people don't like talking about it because for some reason some of them get proactive about "solving solving the issue of dumb people" rather than act reactively as with animals.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Humans do too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Science fears the mention of Homo-Erectus

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Massive directed breeding and bloodline exclusion. If eugenics ever took off for humans, we'd see the same effects.
        But generally human breeding is fairly undirected and aimless and different populations of humans have regularly interbred with others for most of human history.
        You never get isolated human bloodlines separate from all others for any extended period of time. Unlike with purebred dogs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao yeah bro i'm sure the Gauls were getting BLACKED by nubians 2000 years ago, because people have "always" mixed. LMAO have a nice day retard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gauls got raped en mass by the Latins who heavily mixed with the North Africans and Phoenician colony states who had common contact with the Bantus and the Kushites.
            There was always a strong interflow of genes from one part of the world to another. Especially when you had empires like Rome raping and pillaging across half a hemisphere.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bloodlines tend to end up intermixing over long periods of time
            >BLACK COCKS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
            wtf is wrong with you

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is patently untrue. Explain different races if not for geographic isolation? This is pure cope to dodge the simple truth of the matter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is that the only people who care about race are the same people who instinctively treat people like dogs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why is it that the only people who don't care about race are the people primarily benefitting from "diversity" policies?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bruv I got 3 post secondary degrees in stem (one in comp sci one in cad/cam and one in IT) and I just got my first job where having a degree was an actual requirement
            I wish it was dumb white people shit like disability or criminal record or drugs that stopped me because those at least mean free money and fun
            If there's a benefit I'm not fucking seeing it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why is it that the people who run around saying that race is just a social construct and no one should care about race and Black Lives Matter are the ones calling for White Genocide?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've never understood this.
            Not the white genocide part, that part you're right about, but that you instinctively assume the primary force and cause behind white genocide, and those who want it the most, are the non whites.
            Nothing could be further from the truth.
            The fact of the matter is that American white genocide policies, like other policies, are entirely enacted by white people. Not even in a "whites have a fifth column" sense.
            Opioids? Pushed by a white pharmaceutical company.
            Hfcs? Made by the whitest corn farmers you'll meet, in food processing plants owned by whites.
            Manufacturing outsourcing? Done entirely by white ceos, under Bill and Hillary Clinton, who are so white they came from Arkansas.
            Republicans Mexican strategy? George bush and donald rumsfeld. White as FUCK.
            You can think of other whites as superior all you want, but is it that hard to imagine that your fellow whites don't hold other whites in the same regard?
            What if - and call me crazy if you want - what if, in its pursuit and enforcing of a counter culture identity, Americans (that means whites) found that the only culture that they understood well enough to reject, to utterly hate to the point of genocide, isn't the darkies and the mexicans and the Chinese and the italians and the irish, but rather the American culture, the white culture they grew up in? What if we minorities are merely the gallery to the American experiment, the witness to your own self destructive tendencies that can make the richest nation on earth a literal clown show?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you instinctively assume the primary force and cause behind white genocide, and those who want it the most, are the non whites.
              No, I don't. That's you projecting your belief of what you think I believe.

              >Opioids
              >Hfcs
              What the fuck do these have to do with white replacement politics, you drooling retard?

              inb4
              >but muh heckin opioid epidoomic
              So fucking what, let the dregs of society off themselves.
              >but muh heckin white people are fat
              Seen what blacks look like nowadays?

              And BTW I'm the guy who wrote what you responded to with that drivel.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              garden gnomes aren’t white and push these policies and division

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We do

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should read this. It's accurate, BTW, which is why the Left runs around screaming that it's racist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dogs are inbred

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >(You) farmer sewing his seeds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sewing is for cloth, sowing is for plants.
          t. grammar gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        huumans do, but peoples beliefs arn't as logical as they like to think, opposition to this fact is only secular dogma. As such there arn't enough studies done to determine how extensive it is.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because pitpulls are more likely to randomly attack people when you don’t want them to? Are you black?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pitbulls are muscular yea but not nearly as agile which is the point of having a dog.
    You want agility, weight, and a strong bite. The Malinois is all of that with good intelligence.
    A pitbull only has a bite and that's only useful in dog fighting.
    It's pretty simple.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pitbulls are stupid and cowardly. They won't attack anything they perceive as having a chance to fight back, that's why they attack mostly old people, women, children and smaller dogs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disagree

      Pitbulls are stupidly reckless and have been observed attacking tigers in India before

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ive seen pittbulls attach horses before. They get absolutely rekd by the horse but the point still stands they are really that dumb.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Malinois is smarter by orders of magnitude

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Belgian Malnois are like Muslims, crazy and violent but lawful

    Pitbulls are like morons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My bother lost his foot as a child because our neighbor's malnois got out when he was playing on his slip n slide. I don't trust them either no matter how "smart" they are.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is his favorite restaurant IHOP?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Belgian malinois haven't been inbred to the point of retardation (see: toadline) by inbred retards (see: morons)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, living in Belgium and seen all the legends ( gvitou, gbibber, eriem, cartouche...) i can say malinois is extremely inbred and linebred ( learn the difference ) but also with extreme selection and culling the weak.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have one I got from a pound, could not believe it at first. He was an abandoned puppy eating out of garbage cans in New London CT. Smartest fucking dog I have ever seen, scary smart.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based pitbull owner here.

    The real reason, believe it or not, is because pitbulls aren't aggressive enough. They naturally love all humans too much. The only way to make a pitbull attack humans is to completely destroy it mentally, which of course makes the pibble a menace to society. They don't have a guard instinct. They have a fighting instinct, but one mainly limited to other dogs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i thought they had an overly strong predatory instinct which could easily apply to any human that looked like easy pickings, which is why they "snap" but only for women, children, and the elderly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They certain love eating humans too much.
      Look at this retard anthropomorphising a retarded breed of dog.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The real reason, believe it or not, is because pitbulls aren't aggressive enough. They naturally love all humans too much. The only way to make a pitbull attack humans is to completely destroy it mentally
      This sounds like some beaten-housewife Stockholm syndrome bullshit, "Its my fault he had to hit me, he loves me really but I burned the steak again just like he told me not to". Explain how every pitmom manages to mentally destroy their morondogs that drives them to be responsible for 65% of dog attacks while only being 6% of total dogs. Chihuahuas are pampered by their owners in the exact same way single mothers pamper pitbulls, and they are totally unrepresented in mauling stats.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Explain how every pitmom manages to mentally destroy their morondogs that drives them to be responsible for 65% of dog attacks while only being 6% of total dogs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Scenarios like this are the reason I support pitbull bans in countries with socialized medicine. People are too stupid to be left with animals like this. You could see the problem before the attack even happened.
          > Dog pulling on leash, untrained
          > Stretch leash so no control of animal anyway
          > No control collar or any other correction method
          > Oh god she has 2 of them
          Everything from the face plant to cat mauling were just the whole situation playing out.
          I've owned several dogs over years and own a pitbull now. The shelters are (unfortunately) full of them; something like >50% of what's there. Mine is a well trained dog and I still won't take it outside without a choke leash and hunting-dog grade shock collar.
          But most people don't train their dogs and you get this, and there are a gazillion pits at the humane society to be adopted...

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Both those dogs need to be shot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I assuming the dogs were put down the retarded owner got sued to hell and back?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God, I fucking hate pitbulls so goddamn much. Violent, disgusting animals owned exclusively by moronic subhuman low lifes. We need to ban pitbulls, then round them up and execute them all. The exquisite seething from brain dead retarded pitmommy morons on facebook would be worth the banning alone. Fuck pitbulls, and fuck pitbull owners.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Chihuahuas are pampered by their owners in the exact same way single mothers pamper pitbulls, and they are totally unrepresented in mauling stats.
        Not for lack of trying

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, chihuahua's are cowards, you can have ten in a single area but if a cat their size shows up and stands its ground, they will retreat

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I grew up in a majority mexican ghetto and those rats are very aggressive. I've punted so many it's crazy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I find it funny that the people who defend pitbulls the most and say its the owner not the breed have a rabid obsession with hating chihuahua's as an "aggressive dog" despite the fact that they can realistically be eaten alive by basically any dog breed around.
              It's an odd cognitive dissonance, all the stranger because a chihuahua is unlikely to bite your arm off unlike their precious pibble. Who cares if a chihuahua is an aggressive shit. As you say, just punt the fucking thing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate both.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. Pitbulls are dangerous, chihuahuas are annoying as fuck.

                I had a neighbor who got a chihuahua. The dog would get out of its yard and run around the neighborhood yapping at anyone it came across. One day I was doing yardwork, the dog was yapping at me, a couple walked past me and the dog walked after them yapping away. At least 30 minutes later, maybe even 30, they came back, dog still yapping at them, and said, "Is this YOUR dog?!" I pointed them next door.

                These people walked probably around two miles (typical walking speed is 4mph) with the fucking ratdog yapping at them the entire way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >chihuahua's as an "aggressive dog"
                When a pitbull gets loose, everyone loses their minds. If it bites someone its getting put down.
                When a chihuahua runs up and bites someone... its pretty much ignored.
                I've been bitten by small dogs many many times. Big dogs, rarely, but only the latter is memorable b/c its so much more dangerous.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chihuahua can have its neck snapped with one hand. A pitbull was designed to kill bears.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Theyre extremely aggressive. Constantly trying to bite you. Cant stand them and how their owners always baby them and make excuses for them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous.

          Nah, chihuahua's are cowards, you can have ten in a single area but if a cat their size shows up and stands its ground, they will retreat

          They're cowards, but this typically manifests in hyperaggressive behavior. Hence how they'll scream and snarl at everything that moves like the demented fetus that they are.
          They have permanent little-dog syndrome, and absolutely zero desire or reason in their tiny little raisin brains to be chill.

          >Explain how every pitmom manages to mentally destroy their morondogs that drives them to be responsible for 65% of dog attacks while only being 6% of total dogs.

          The issue with Pitbulls, on top of

          >So the pit has the issue, its been made the way it is for a purpose

          Sort of. I've read a lot of articles where the pitbull just goes berserk for no reason and WILL NOT STOP. I don't think that's normal aggression. Here, i wrote this a week or so ago, it's still in tbharchive even if it drops out of the live archive here soon:

          [...] :

          I've posted this before, but my theory is that it's a neurological defect that is only in some of the pitbulls. It's funny that veterinarians and dog breeders acknowledge the existence of this in other breeds but not in pitbulls.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome

          > Rage syndrome, also known as sudden onset aggression or (SOA) or avalanche of rage syndrome, is a rare but serious behavioural problem that has been reported most commonly in the English Springer Spaniel but also in a variety of other dog breeds. It is often misdiagnosed as it can be confused with other forms of aggression. It is thought to be genetic in origin and is inheritable.
          >
          >Although the scientific evidence is limited, rage syndrome has been described as an epileptic disorder affecting the emotion-related parts of the dog's brain.[8] There is also some evidence that in at least some cases it is an inheritable genetic disorder. In English Springer Spaniels, the appearance of rage syndrome has been traced back to a winner at the Westminster Kennel Club show who went on to become a top stud.[9] (see Popular sire effect)

          related issues, is that to turn them into the ultimate bodyguard dog that they very much can be, they need to be trained and socialized.
          The thing is, the casual suburban breeder might not do this, outside of pampering them a bunch and doing the basics of slapping their noses when the little infant tries to bite down on their finger.
          So your stereotypical pitmommy buys a Pit from "the grassroots local", thinking they're getting some turbo-disciplined guard dog (which they were historically, their older nickname was "Nanny-dog"), but the dog doesn't have that attention to its socialization or training.
          Now it will probably pick up something. It's not actually retarded, so it's not feral, but then it runs into the next issue. The owner and their family.
          Because a Pitbull is a serious dog. In its mind, it's there with a job to do, and that is defending and clearing its territory from hostiles. Which means; anything aggressive, and anything it doesn't know. So a lot of owners don't think to consider this. They might get negligent of their animal after a few months or years, and then the Pitbull "randomly" kills and eats a cat like

          >Explain how every pitmom manages to mentally destroy their morondogs that drives them to be responsible for 65% of dog attacks while only being 6% of total dogs.

          because "it was there", or they forget to watch their 8 month old baby, who crawls up to the Pitbull and pokes and prods it to explore those two shiny things in its head called eyes, until the Pitbull decides it's had enough of this clearly-now-hostile creature attacking it, bites down on the offending limb, and wrenches.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous.

            Then, you also have to consider shit like; has this line come from fighting rings (inherited traits and genetic half-memories), does it have Sudden Onset Aggression issues, how attentive is it to commands, what did the breeders instill in it?
            TL:DR. Pitbulls are a perfectly fine dog. In fact, they're one of the better breeds out there. But you do need to take some basic measures to their ownership.
            Get ones from trustworthy sources, ensure they're socialized and trained right so they don't leap at anything unknown with a pulse, keep them away from bad stimuli like curious kids, territorial cats, and less socialized mutts, and remember when you play with it, it's not a golden retriever.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In fact, they're one of the better breeds out there
              For eating kids, yeah.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fuck ofd retard.

              Hope you never have kids, it'll just end up in a mauling statistic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Don't let them near tasty old ladies, other dogs, children, other pits, plastic bags, bottles, airplanes flying overhead and wood. Keep them muzzled at all times, while behind a 10 foot overhanging steel fence with top rollers that's 3 foot under the ground too. Also have a double gate so they can't sneak past them when you open it and always have visitors covered in kevlar.

              They make great pets that totally don't go unstable and eat their owners. Make sure it's male and not to neuter it so it eats even more babies.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              have a nice day, retarded moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pitbulls were NEVER nannydogs it was some bullshit made up in the 70's by some pitmommies trying to give a good name to the breed by stealing the reputation of saint bernards.
            They have never been good with children. There is a picture from the 1700's of one with a family(Which was a dog fighting family, where the owner lost a family child to one of his dogs), that is literally their only proof. There are pictures of kids next to alligators for fuck sake.
            If was never a guard dog, its predecessor was for bull baiting, and its current iteration was bred through pit fighting.

            Why do you lie so much for such a shit breed?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To add to your point, we literally put shitbulls on our propaganda during WWI because even then they were known as aggressive street fighting dogs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love weiner dogs so much

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I love dog weiners so much
                I know that feel, bro.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What dog should describe Americans?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either a golden retriever or a pound mutt with zero pedigree

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can you take the question seriously?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either a golden retriever or a pound mutt with zero pedigree

                Can you take the question seriously?

                He did, both are good choices. I was going to go with the golden too. But his choice of the Amerimutt is obviously a better choice for obvious reasons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bull terriers arent pitbulls.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/cMibFXc.jpg

              To add to your point, we literally put shitbulls on our propaganda during WWI because even then they were known as aggressive street fighting dogs

              [...]
              They're cowards, but this typically manifests in hyperaggressive behavior. Hence how they'll scream and snarl at everything that moves like the demented fetus that they are.
              They have permanent little-dog syndrome, and absolutely zero desire or reason in their tiny little raisin brains to be chill.
              [...]
              The issue with Pitbulls, on top of [...]
              related issues, is that to turn them into the ultimate bodyguard dog that they very much can be, they need to be trained and socialized.
              The thing is, the casual suburban breeder might not do this, outside of pampering them a bunch and doing the basics of slapping their noses when the little infant tries to bite down on their finger.
              So your stereotypical pitmommy buys a Pit from "the grassroots local", thinking they're getting some turbo-disciplined guard dog (which they were historically, their older nickname was "Nanny-dog"), but the dog doesn't have that attention to its socialization or training.
              Now it will probably pick up something. It's not actually retarded, so it's not feral, but then it runs into the next issue. The owner and their family.
              Because a Pitbull is a serious dog. In its mind, it's there with a job to do, and that is defending and clearing its territory from hostiles. Which means; anything aggressive, and anything it doesn't know. So a lot of owners don't think to consider this. They might get negligent of their animal after a few months or years, and then the Pitbull "randomly" kills and eats a cat like [...] because "it was there", or they forget to watch their 8 month old baby, who crawls up to the Pitbull and pokes and prods it to explore those two shiny things in its head called eyes, until the Pitbull decides it's had enough of this clearly-now-hostile creature attacking it, bites down on the offending limb, and wrenches.

              Pitbulls are widely owned in South Africa to be guard dogs. I think nearly everyone I knew growing up had either a pit bull or a staffie, another "bad breed". And yet I can't remember ever reading about pit bull attacks in South Africa. Pitbulls were valued by stockmen and and other people who go into the bush because they would literally go up against fucking lions and not give a single shit.
              They're so well loved that pit bulls are a national icon in the shape of Jock Of The Bushveld, a classic novel.
              I think westerners are A. pussies who don't train their dogs properly
              B. Cowardly gays scared of an animal 1/10th their size
              C. the dogs are bred by the lowest scumbag tier of society for dubious purposes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > valued by stockmen
                You're in SA and I think you're talking about a different breed entirely that what we have in USA. Esp. if dogs there look like that picture.
                For example, the black mouth cur is a similar looking dog to pit bull but is a working animal bred for use with cattle and as a hunting dog. Looks just like that photo cover.
                Working dogs are of course trained and issue with pit bulls in USA aside from their general behavior is complete lack of training by owners. They treat them like a lap dog then get surpised when pitty faceplants them chasing a squirrel.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mouth_Cur
                t. own pit bull, have hunted w. black mouth curs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's the Rhodesian Ridgeback which is similar to the Black Mouth, we use them in Australia to run down feral pigs. They are an interesting dog in the sense they're pretty smart but you sort of end up having to do constant reinforcement training to work properly, very good guard dog, one person dog and basically no fucking fear. They get up to about 60-70lb so they're a sizeable, lanky beast of a thing.
                There's also a mastiff breed in SA but can't remember the name of it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There's also a mastiff breed in SA but can't remember the name of it
                Boerboel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Boerboel.
                That's them, a smaller sort of mastiff but they're pretty typical with the big head, thick body and built like a brick

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they're pretty smart but you sort of end up having to do constant reinforcement training to work properly, very good guard dog
                Based on my one experience w/ black mouth curs you described their temperament.
                Handler had three curs with shock collars; you needed that to get dogs attention to come back... they seemed well trained but very independent minded. Curs would roust out the hogs from underbrush/forest, once the hogs were cornered they'd bite them in the ass and back off so you could get a shot in. They were big dogs, 70-100 lbs. I've never seen a ridgeback IRL but these were stockier than the photos I've seen (or even this one

                https://i.imgur.com/mUtN3I5.jpg

                > valued by stockmen
                You're in SA and I think you're talking about a different breed entirely that what we have in USA. Esp. if dogs there look like that picture.
                For example, the black mouth cur is a similar looking dog to pit bull but is a working animal bred for use with cattle and as a hunting dog. Looks just like that photo cover.
                Working dogs are of course trained and issue with pit bulls in USA aside from their general behavior is complete lack of training by owners. They treat them like a lap dog then get surpised when pitty faceplants them chasing a squirrel.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mouth_Cur
                t. own pit bull, have hunted w. black mouth curs

                ).

                [...]
                Noone knows exactly what the type of dog Jock was. From the description, most people believe he was either a staffie or a pitbull.

                I've always assumed Staffordshire Terrier and pit bull were exactly same dog, the former name a whitewashing of the latter dog to get around local laws/rules.
                Are there legit differences bt the two? Not like "American Pit Bull" has AKC recognition anyway.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The staffordshire has 50 years of less *official* breeding for fighting and a tiny bit of mastiff blood while the pitbull is basically the working line staffordshire. Both are still dangerous, and there are still off-standard staffy breeders that breed them to be dangerous. In fact, the majority of staffies are slightly off standard. Full papered ones are a rarer breed than full papered to-the-standard pitbulls which are only recognize by one irrelevant kennel club.

                Full adherence to breed standards is only relevant to kennel club membership, dog shows, and puppy prices, anyways. The majority of dogs bred period deviate from the standard. It is significantly easier to breed a healthy dog with the correct temperament if you deviate from KC standards. There are a lot of police malinois that would never win crufts or even be allowed in on account of weighing too much or having the wrong ears or too much fluff on the tail. And there are many pitbulls and staffordshires that are between the two breeds - the staffordshires just being the slightly friendly, rounder pitbulls.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Ridgebacks I've seen working tended to be the chase dogs as well, they'd bail up the pig and give time for the catch dog to come in and lock it down. Generally they're a bigger x-bred with powerful jaws like a mastiff and then you just go in and stab the pig to death. Personally, I've done it and its kind of fun, but its much easier to just shoot the damn things as running around in the bush chasing pigs and the dogs chasing them is a younger mans game

                The staffordshire has 50 years of less *official* breeding for fighting and a tiny bit of mastiff blood while the pitbull is basically the working line staffordshire. Both are still dangerous, and there are still off-standard staffy breeders that breed them to be dangerous. In fact, the majority of staffies are slightly off standard. Full papered ones are a rarer breed than full papered to-the-standard pitbulls which are only recognize by one irrelevant kennel club.

                Full adherence to breed standards is only relevant to kennel club membership, dog shows, and puppy prices, anyways. The majority of dogs bred period deviate from the standard. It is significantly easier to breed a healthy dog with the correct temperament if you deviate from KC standards. There are a lot of police malinois that would never win crufts or even be allowed in on account of weighing too much or having the wrong ears or too much fluff on the tail. And there are many pitbulls and staffordshires that are between the two breeds - the staffordshires just being the slightly friendly, rounder pitbulls.

                Staffy's are a much more personable dog compared to a Pit. I fostered one for about half a year until they found a new owner for her and she was basically one of the loveliest, gentle dogs you've ever meet. Some of them can be little shits though if they get bored and go into their diggy-diggy-hole phase and chewing stuff but they're generally good with people and can be ok with other dogs if you let them get to know each other. They are sort of the archetypical 'nanny dog' people tried to tie onto the Pit as they're gentle with children and less likely to hurt anyone.
                I probably wouldn't say they're an easy dog to train to do much with. But they do guard a house and won't murder your neighbour... his cat though is open season, there's not much you can do about that sometimes unless they've been raised and trained not to prey drive small fluffy things and other dogs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/JBYlx1J.jpg

                There's the Rhodesian Ridgeback which is similar to the Black Mouth, we use them in Australia to run down feral pigs. They are an interesting dog in the sense they're pretty smart but you sort of end up having to do constant reinforcement training to work properly, very good guard dog, one person dog and basically no fucking fear. They get up to about 60-70lb so they're a sizeable, lanky beast of a thing.
                There's also a mastiff breed in SA but can't remember the name of it

                Noone knows exactly what the type of dog Jock was. From the description, most people believe he was either a staffie or a pitbull.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those dogs are not trusted as pets. If they are, they are disciplined with a VERY firm hand and chained up away from guests.

                That's where american pitbulls diverge

                >only being 6% of total dogs
                They are 20% at least. Half of all dogs are too small to bother reporting attacks, so pits make up 40% of the danger dog population and 65% of the attacks. But they're also the cheapest dog (shelters are full of the wretched things), so they attract all the people most likely to mistreat it.
                >Inb4 calling me a pit owner
                Never owned one, never will. They are ugly as fuck.

                >they are 20% at least
                Lol no, it's closer to 10%. 20% is extrapolated from shelter headcounts, which is about as accurate as guessing that blacks are at least half the US population based on jails.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The nanny dog thing wasn't even talking about Pitbulls either. It was an article written in the NYT in 1971 discussing Staffordshire Bull Terriers.

              https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html

              And I'm

              My dad was a dog handler in the RAF before the pitbull ban was brought in the 1980s, in the UK. So he had German Shepards as working dogs and Pitbulls as pets. A Pitbull is just as easily trained as a Shepard, just as agile and just as good at the job as a Shepard. But Shepards, like the collie, are incredibly intelligent dogs. In terms of agility, an RAF German Shepard is in the Guinness book of records for scaling a wall to 3.58m in the 1980s. But I've seen pitbulls in wall climbing competitions hitting 4m. And that's on flat walls. The RAF dog did it on a wall that employed slats to give it purchase on the climb.

              I don't know why the Americans wouldn't employ more APBT as working dogs, other than both the Malinois and German Shepard have a few more pounds in weight than an APBT, which gives it an edge in bringing someone down in terms of dead weight when it's hanging off an arm.

              so it's not like I'm anti-pitbull. I just hate bullshit and the "nanny dog myth" should have had an episode on Penn & Teller's 'Bullshit'.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >or they forget to watch their 8 month old baby, who crawls up to the Pitbull and pokes and prods it to explore those two shiny things in its head called eyes
            i like how you carefully crafted some way to make a literal infant out to be the aggressor, like pit bulls wont just fucking eat it for existing. no, its the owner's fault, and the baby for viciously attacking its eyeballs! the baby is still new, and considered an intruder! breed of peace!
            nevermind the fact that pit bulls maul school aged children they've been living with for life all the same, while they're laying in beds or just existing in their general vicinity

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pit bull apologists should be shot imo.
              It shows that every lie will b
              Suffice as long as one can push his agenda.
              I swear to god if I ever witness a pit attacking some1 I will end its live like Conan the barbarian.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >make a literal infant out to be the aggressor
              I'm not apologizing for pitbulls, but you don't want to leave an infant alone with any animal that could theoretically harm it. This is more to keep the infant away from the animal than the other way around, because even the most well behaved animal is going to eventually snap at an unattended child that's poking and pulling at everything it can.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because even the most well behaved animal is going to eventually snap at an unattended child that's poking and pulling at everything it can.
                You're retarded, you're a gay, you're wrong, you should have a nice day.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh nanny dog
            kys

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only being 6% of total dogs
        They are 20% at least. Half of all dogs are too small to bother reporting attacks, so pits make up 40% of the danger dog population and 65% of the attacks. But they're also the cheapest dog (shelters are full of the wretched things), so they attract all the people most likely to mistreat it.
        >Inb4 calling me a pit owner
        Never owned one, never will. They are ugly as fuck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Explain how every pitmom manages to mentally destroy their morondogs that drives them to be responsible for 65% of dog attacks while only being 6% of total dogs. Chihuahuas are pampered by their owners in the exact same way single mothers pamper pitbulls, and they are totally unrepresented in mauling stats.
        every chihuahua is a schizo that doesn't try to bite you simply because it's rat sized
        also women should not be allowed to own dogs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DESPITE

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    arent whites used excessively in the military? why not just get a moron then what the fuck?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blacks are disproportionately represented in the military m8. 12% of America but 20% of the armed forces.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        blame judges for that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >12% of America but 20% of the armed forces
        ... and over 52% of all murders in the USA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Blacks are disproportionately represented in the military m8. 12% of America but 20% of the armed forces.

      Whites are disproportionate in combat MOSes. morons join the POG ranks for welfare. It's been that way since 1863.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many pitbulls would it take to solve the african child soldier problem?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      African child soldiers generally have Guns, so maybe 31 pitbulls per child. Have 31 pitbulls rush him, when he reloads after firing his 30th bullet the 31st pitbull will maul him.
      This is all assuming the pitbulls don't haul ass when they hear a Gunshot and also there's only 1 child soldier per pittie pack.
      Although I'm pretty sure there's more African Child soldiers than there are Shitbulls, so by default the Child soldiers win, Inadvertently solving the Shitbull problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was fifteen pit bulls against a bull, but the sources never said if it was one at a time or all 15 at once. Prolly all at once.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Own a Belgian Malinois and you'll realize both how retarded every other dog you've ever owned was and how much of a low energy pleb you probably are.
    Black people walking towards you will almost always cross the street too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's with those big German Shepherd ears? Breed standard is supposed to be small ears.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They tried. They really tried. Pitbulls are uncontrollably aggressive and EXTREMELY RETARDED. They would bite the wrong targets. They would refuse to let go. They would completely ignore really obvious danger that could be easily avoided without compromising anything. They would totally forget their training in every context.

        There are two kinds of retarded in dogs. "retarded", where the dog is smart enough and performed perfectly before, but now considers obeying you much less rewarding than looking at that squirrel over there. This is where you find shit like 50% of huskies and that border collie that really thinks you are a gay and only REALLY listens to your dad. And then there is actually retarded. Like so retarded they would be starving before chewing open a bag of dog food. So retarded that if you left a door cracked, the dog would bark and beg for you to open it. This is where you find pitbulls, the other 50% of huskies, and that collie that really likes you and ignores your dad.

        Show breed standards are largely irrelevant and actual working breeders do whatever the fuck they want, aesthetically.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So retarded that if you left a door cracked, the dog would bark and beg for you to open it. This is where you find pitbulls
          No, a pitbull would chew through the wall to get where he wanted to go.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think you can summarize it as "dependable stupidity" (in which you can find a bunch of great family dogs, living fashion accessories and super-niche working dogs) and "undependable stupidity" in which you can find maulings.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was still a puppy in that picture. His face has since widened out and his ears are smaller in relation to the rest of his head.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"retarded", where the dog is smart enough and performed perfectly before, but now considers obeying you much less rewarding than looking at that squirrel over there
        That's the way my Shih Tzus are. They're empathetic and they recognize tons of phrases but they only do shit for food.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My sister has a couple of them, they're more or less well behaved house cats that bark and just living their best life as fluffy caterpillars

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shepard puppies always have big ears

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same. Lad actually wants to be trained and needs to every day too. Now he is older, ten nearly, but when he was younger we could do 15km+ walks every single day and he was still full of energy.
      Very clever dog too. Never really did any retard shit dogs sometimes do. Good boy all around. Also since they are lighter and smaller, they don't get their hips fucked as often as Germans. Very recommended if you can provide the doggo with a purpose, great breed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Own a Belgian Malinois and you'll realize both how retarded every other dog you've ever owned was and how much of a low energy pleb you probably are.
      Now, now. You have a good case. No need to overstate the thing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Love 'em.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Smartest animal I ever interacted with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a legitimate risk with combat breeds that they'll attack your own guys in the wrong circumstances. That circumstance being, one of your guy goes down on the ground. Dogs have a very strong drive to attack anything that goes belly up, and when primed, they aren't necessarily going to understand who they are supposed to charge.
        Its not just pitbulls, most dogs that can fight well lack the intelligence required to be anything else than guard dogs (and even then, even a good guard dog can be fooled). Belgian Malinois are the exception, they have top tier dog intellect.
        , the thing is, collies aren't combat breeds. You are 100% right they are genius dogs but they don't have the fighting reflexes needed for a dog that size to overcome a human easily (body slamming you, jumping and biting your arm and swing around to pull you on your ass, etc). You need a dog that won't try and bite the ankles and pull back unless he 100% has the strength to pull a grown man off its feet that way, and that takes a lot. Or that won't try and bite your arm off wildly so that someone who knows how to fight dog won't choke it (if a dog bites your arm don't pull back, grab the dog by the neck with your other arm and push in your arm that's bitten down its throat while putting pressure around the neck, the dog will pass out in 30 seconds).
        > T. been dogsledding over 20 years, my musher lives next door to a guy who raises dogs for the police and military, spent a few weekends with him on the snow, so we could talk about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can confirm as a doberman owner

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Black people walking towards you will almost always cross the street too.

      Kek'd hard. I love walking my Mali at 4AM and watch the thugs cross the street. Keep in mind, I live in Brazil, so it's a lot of thugs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can confirm, my dutch shepherd makes nigs 180 and 90 away like they just stole someone's bike in broad daylight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Malinois are magnificent dogs and are very smart but they are not as smart as Collies or Shetland Sheepdogs. That said, a Collie or Sheltie doesn't have the physical attributes of the Malinois. I just love non shitbull dogs bros.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you dog rushes towards me, and I don't see a wagging tail, I shoot it no matter if it's a pitbull or a poodle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you should shoot a pitbull with a waggling tail either way, these fucking monsters are completely unpredictable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pit bulls attack while wagging their tail all the time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huskies and malamutes don't wag their tails much at all, but are notoriously friendly. They are the most common dog in my state and make up for 0% of the dog bite fatalities. Pitbulls are less than 5% of the population but nearly all of the maulings and attack while wagging their tails.They technically are not aggressive. Mauling you is fun to them.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've had Mals in some of my units and got to know them pretty well, come from a farming background and I'm a farmer today so I'm used to working dogs.
    Sort of think of them in terms of reliability
    >You tell a Pit what to do and you might get it doing it 20% of the time on the first command
    >A Mal is likely to follow that command on first ask about 70-80% of the time
    So think of it like a gun, you want an 8/10 chance of it going off or a 2/10 chance of it going off? You want the higher, you don't want to do the 2nd pull of the trigger but its ok if there's a good chance its working and on its way, if you're still clicking another 4-5 times after that- now its YOUR problem in a big way.

    In terms of the dog itself, its sort of like a cross between a German Shepard but a little smaller and a Border Collie that's a bit angrier, but you get the aggression, guard instinct of a GS with the trainable and high energy of a BC. They can run 20k's in a day and still be in prime condition, they're not overly huge but they're still big enough to take down an adult human or pull chunks off them if you need that done too. There's still plenty of sharp teeth and strength there and not fucking around, they will peel strips of skin off people and those people will go into shock and sheer pants shitting panic with one of these things hanging off and arm, leg or their balls.
    That said, they're not really a good family pet. Like most working doggos, they need a job, if they don't have a job they turn into real-life shit posters that just get bored. Training them isn't always easy either, they're pretty strong willed and take a while to sort of mould them into what they're doing, but once there they can sort of stay in that working mentality you've set them with nothing more than just keep on doing it.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man there's so much shitflinging around pitbulls whenever they come up that I don't know what to believe anymore
    I vaguely know a guy who has one and it's normal I guess

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, look at it more as a commodity for the domestic dogs origins than a wild animal or a pet.
      Breeders over successive generations produced a dog that is specifically designed to kill other dogs in a straight up fight, they were not looking for traits like being well socialised with humans, easy to train or herd sheep- they want to have a kennel of dogs that if a customer comes up and says, I need a dog to kill other dogs, he'll get that end product. He's not getting a yippy companion dog or something to round up cattle, guard the family home or play with the kids.
      Likewise, if I want a border collie to round up sheep, I'll go down to the kennel that breeds them and I'm not necessarily looking for a family pet and I don't need it to kill other dogs. I just need that dog to round up sheep, listen to how I trained him to do it and that's now his place in life. If I don't get a working dog then I'll be out money, time and end up with something that's basically going to be at the end of his genetic line.

      Its not a politically nice way of saying this, but dogs that don't conform to the breed standards and expectations, get the snip and can possibly put down.
      So that's why with responsible breeders, they get a dog that's not willing to play nice with other dogs or can't be socialised, refuses to be trained and bites people- blam, that ends there and you put your effort into continuing a line of dogs in the breed that will produce the traits they're meant to have

      So the pit has the issue, its been made the way it is for a purpose, but its an extremely niche purpose that has some risks, a double edged sword that might hurt the user and the product of selective breeding to reach its current place. Now if breeders wanted to make say, pet pibbles, they need to select dogs that have sociable, friendly traits to do that. Its not that you can't overcome some traits with training and good handling, but it only goes so far like cramming the square peg in a round hole

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So the pit has the issue, its been made the way it is for a purpose

        Sort of. I've read a lot of articles where the pitbull just goes berserk for no reason and WILL NOT STOP. I don't think that's normal aggression. Here, i wrote this a week or so ago, it's still in tbharchive even if it drops out of the live archive here soon:

        [...]

        :

        I've posted this before, but my theory is that it's a neurological defect that is only in some of the pitbulls. It's funny that veterinarians and dog breeders acknowledge the existence of this in other breeds but not in pitbulls.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_syndrome

        > Rage syndrome, also known as sudden onset aggression or (SOA) or avalanche of rage syndrome, is a rare but serious behavioural problem that has been reported most commonly in the English Springer Spaniel but also in a variety of other dog breeds. It is often misdiagnosed as it can be confused with other forms of aggression. It is thought to be genetic in origin and is inheritable.
        >
        >Although the scientific evidence is limited, rage syndrome has been described as an epileptic disorder affecting the emotion-related parts of the dog's brain.[8] There is also some evidence that in at least some cases it is an inheritable genetic disorder. In English Springer Spaniels, the appearance of rage syndrome has been traced back to a winner at the Westminster Kennel Club show who went on to become a top stud.[9] (see Popular sire effect)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've known it to happen in all sorts of doggos, but in something like a Spaniel or even a Labrador it'll get culled out of the line pretty quick as its quite obviously a serious problem. My guess is that its been left running wild in the breeding pool of genetics unchecked for just long enough to maybe skip a generation here and there. The two people I've known with Springer kennels were quite aware of it, but they also have their excel spreadsheets of doggo linage going back far enough they can pick up if there's as risk of a litter maybe getting it.
          Its sort of one of the advantages of having a stud line in some pets because it picks up if theres some genetic crap in there, but in the old backyard breeder industry where they just pump out puppies for cash it gets super dodgy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but in something like a Spaniel or even a Labrador it'll get culled out of the line pretty quick as its quite obviously a serious problem
            Exactly. The shitbull backyard breeders consider this a feature, not a bug. If they knew it existed, they would probably intentionally select for it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Breeders are not controlling the vast majority of the population of 'pit bulls'. Most pits nowadays are bred in backyards or other trashy setups from people who won't bother to spay or neuter (or who choose not to do so in order to make some money off of selling the offspring). The other partner isn't carefully chosen to maximize their deadly potential in the arena (it's not like dogfighting is all that big anymore anyway), it's whatever other neighborhood dogs can get loose to get some probably docked tail.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a dog, not some batshit insane gargoyle

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    other than you can clearly identify which breed it is at a glance, and belgians not having fucked up hips and other diseases?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oops, you replied in the time it took me to see the answers already posted and decide to delete my question.

      But I wouldn't be able to tell which one was which unless you told me. I've seen dark GSes and smaller-than-average GSes. If BMs are healthier overall, that's probably more to do with them not being AKC'ed to death over the last fifty years. The only reason GSes have so many problems is because of the retarded "let's change the breed standard every few years in the name of fashion!" crap that the AKC pulls. Seriously, whoever came up with the idea of having a dog's back slope downwards should have been shot when they brought that up at an AKC meeting.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That is probably a major part of it
        the breed standard for a malinoise is "work dog that's great at it's job" and having all kinds of retarded genetic diseases would go against that breed standard

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literal military attack dogs are less likely to maul random people than the average shitbull

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous.

    >Short, stubby build. Inefficient for stamina and long action due to too much muscle.
    >Next to no initiative or "brains". Not flat out retarded (dogs typically aren't "just retarded", that's a viewer error), but for all that they're EXTREMELY disciplined dogs, they don't think, don't take initiative, unless it's for a very basic area denial of its natural territory.

    >Belgian Malinos.
    >Build of a German Shepard, one of the best builds physically for wartime operations.
    >Mindset of pitbull, so extreme discipline, basic desirable drives to territorialism, aggression, and biting down, but with the cognitive power and capacities to think, learn, and problem solve of a boarder collie.

    It's like desiring a Maus over a Challanger. The Maus has the fact it's fuckoff big and has a big gun. The Challanger can move fast, take hits, has better informational and sensory capabilities, last longer, and has a slightly smaller gun.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shitbulls will never replace a true wolf. They're an affront to nature, fucking hideous little man-made orc creatures with health problems and retardation.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're the German shepherd's slightly retarded much more bitey cousin.
    They literally have a phase while being puppies where they just bite the shit out of you and don't let go. You can see videos of breeders having like 10 puppies hanging on their shoes and legs.
    Wear thick boots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Note that retarded doesn't necessarily mean low IQ.
      Stupid is as stupid does and malinois dogs will find a lot of clever ways to do dumb shit they'll regret. Much of which they won't repeat too often but they'll just find something new.
      Try not to have openings they get stuck in and prepare for the possibility that your dog is going to bite and chew everything.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a yorkie

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pitbulls are retarded moron dogs who just bite and hold
    They'd be more likely to tear out their handler's throat
    Malinois (replaced the German Shepherd because it got too inbred and fucked up) is trainable, smart, and loyal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >replaced the German Shepherd because it got too inbred and fucked up
      Working lines do just fine, show lines are the fucked ones, but if you live in a nation, state or area where only show lines are available you should have moved away 10 years ago already because you're surrounded by subhumans.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Belgian shepherd Malinois and a Belgian shepherd tevuren.
    Malinois is fucking apeshit and thinks that she is a guard dog
    Tervuren is very friendly, exact same temperament as a German Shepherd

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why not just get a russian breed human and attack?

    War requires braincells

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Czech is where it's at. Much easier to train. Not as crazy noisy. Go from snuggle puppy to fang beast in a heartbeat on command.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just post some pibbles getting shot kino already

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dad was a dog handler in the RAF before the pitbull ban was brought in the 1980s, in the UK. So he had German Shepards as working dogs and Pitbulls as pets. A Pitbull is just as easily trained as a Shepard, just as agile and just as good at the job as a Shepard. But Shepards, like the collie, are incredibly intelligent dogs. In terms of agility, an RAF German Shepard is in the Guinness book of records for scaling a wall to 3.58m in the 1980s. But I've seen pitbulls in wall climbing competitions hitting 4m. And that's on flat walls. The RAF dog did it on a wall that employed slats to give it purchase on the climb.

    I don't know why the Americans wouldn't employ more APBT as working dogs, other than both the Malinois and German Shepard have a few more pounds in weight than an APBT, which gives it an edge in bringing someone down in terms of dead weight when it's hanging off an arm.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should go back to American Akitas

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pits are medium sized dogs, and aren't especially strong or fast. They're too short to really lock down someone's arms, and too light to actually hold anything in place.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would very very very much NOT like a shepard with a "PIT BULL'S SPIRIT"

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why not just get a pitbull
    They probably don't want the dog to turn on the handler.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have two of them. They're increadibly easy to train. Very prey-driven and smart. Incredible stamina. Fantastic dogs overall.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've got a mal. I'll be the first to admit I had no fucking clue what I was getting myself into when I got her, I was fueled purely by the emotional high of picking her up as a tiny 2 week old puppy and looking into her face as she tried to lick me.
    The first 6 months with her were a literal hell on earth, and I honestly regretted my choice every day for that time period. But, being a man of principle, I refused to give her up to a shelter that would either put her down or adopt her out to some brownie who'd probably abuse the fuck out of her. I had to make a lot of lifestyle changes to ensure she got the attention and work she needed. 5 years later, I can honestly say she's changed my life for the better, and I've never owned a more loyal dog. I know for an absolute fact that she'd die for me and that's not something a lot of dog owners can say with a lot of confidence I think. We encountered a mountain lion on a walk once, and it took every fiber of strength I had to keep her back because she wanted nothing more than to get on that cat and fuck it up. She had to have known that she'd have lost that fight with fatal consequences, but she didn't try to run away or simply stand her ground, she wanted AT that cat. Best dog I've ever had and probably ever will have. The idea that she'll be dead in under a decade now tears me to pieces any time I think about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a retired K9 drug-seizing mal. He's a cheeky fucker and very grumpy when he's sleeping but otherwise a good boi.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Has he brought you any drugs home yet?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >picking her up as a tiny 2 week old
      The breeder must be one dumb moron. That’s way too early for a puppy to be separated from its mother and litter mates.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I brought her home at 8 weeks, which is arguably still just a bit too young. I met her at 2 weeks. I worded that post a little weirdly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, ok, makes sense. Did the same with my dobie, although I took him home at about 10 weeks.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want one of these dogs as a companion, but also a guard dog, possibly to hunt with as well. I had an opportunity to train these dogs in the army, be a k9 handler, but I decided not to after doing some research and finding out that they are very aggressive and will sometimes bite their handlers. How likely is it that this dog would be aggressive towards its owner?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They NEED a job. That job could be anything, but it needs to be something it can do every single day. If you leave mals to their own devices, they will very quickly get bored and assign themselves a job- which could be anything from guarding the house from every intruder/passerby/mailman/piece of errant trash within a 200 meter radius, to creating a new doorway from your bedroom wall into the living room. I've seen it happen.

      They require someone who is consistent and a strong leader, because they also love to constantly test the hierarchy like fucking velociraptors testing their enclosure fence for weaknesses. I'm not saying you need to beat these dogs or any kind of alpha male bullshit like that, but you have to be able to be firm and stand your ground even when they try to question your authority- which, yes, can sometimes involve nipping or growling. Consistency is key. They are probably the most loyal animals I have ever encountered, but that loyalty has to 1000% be earned by you every single day. If you have kids, I'd reconsider this breed unless you can get them to be all-in with the training as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As the poster here explains-

      They NEED a job. That job could be anything, but it needs to be something it can do every single day. If you leave mals to their own devices, they will very quickly get bored and assign themselves a job- which could be anything from guarding the house from every intruder/passerby/mailman/piece of errant trash within a 200 meter radius, to creating a new doorway from your bedroom wall into the living room. I've seen it happen.

      They require someone who is consistent and a strong leader, because they also love to constantly test the hierarchy like fucking velociraptors testing their enclosure fence for weaknesses. I'm not saying you need to beat these dogs or any kind of alpha male bullshit like that, but you have to be able to be firm and stand your ground even when they try to question your authority- which, yes, can sometimes involve nipping or growling. Consistency is key. They are probably the most loyal animals I have ever encountered, but that loyalty has to 1000% be earned by you every single day. If you have kids, I'd reconsider this breed unless you can get them to be all-in with the training as well.

      They don't make a very good house pet in a lot of ways, a friend of mine has a Tervuren (from the Belgium Shepherd line) and its basically a fluffy dog which has some of the characteristics of the Mal, but seems to be easier to train, will guard and a little less 'hard edge' when it comes to living with. Not saying they're all like that as you obviously get some differences between individual dogs and kennel lines of course.
      But its something to look into
      They're still a high energy working dog though, so you're going to need to walk them a lot, train them to do a job and reinforce their place in the household. His looks after his little hobby farm, hangs out with the horses there and is a fairly loving family pet. In terms of a guard dog 'first' in a dogs training I personally probably wouldn't get a Mal and I'd look at a Doberman- bit bigger, little less high energy, very easy to train and insanely loyal, completely fearless. If you've got a family and its sort of a pet as well a male dobe will tend to fit in better and is easily socialised with people around the home, smaller pets and they are big enough to take down the biggest, craziest crackhead in the hood with room to spare. Female dobes tend to be one-dog, one owner types who have a trickier personality that means they work better in a 1-2 person household but they're also more needy in terms of being around those people as their drive to 'guard' will be very high and they don't like being left alone for long periods.

      To some extent, type of dog, type of household and your lifestyle has to change a bit if you owe it to the dog. That's not easiest to in life, but some guard dogs just aren't a good fit if you have to go overseas for a month or out of town for a week and you can't foist them on family or a kennel for that period of time it'll really send their anxiety levels through the roof

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my belgian treats my family as his pack and loves to climb on me, also direct me where he wants me to go. he is very much a big pushy shepard dog.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't often fight babies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    specific breeds (usually shepards or various other workhunting breeds) are chosen because they can be trained to work well
    you wouldnt want pitbull army dogs because pitbulls are mostly shit when it comes to being trained and obeying orders

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had a roommate who was a former military (airforce) who had one of these, don't get them if your a lazy shit it doesn't matter if you work long hours I your just going to get home and stuff your face with pizza instead of at least walking it then you don't deserve it. Hyper as fuck

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Malinois, They are smart as fuck and relentless and loyal.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A cockapoo would make a better working military dog than a fucking pit bull.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have Malinois that do mondio. They are terrible dogs for an owner that isn't going to spend a lot of time training them. They are higher energy versions of German Shepherds. Honestly I like GSDs better as hiking buddies.

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