Hardly any Zoomers are getting into trades compared to the ones going to college or nothing at all. What makes you think Gen Alpha is going to? There's hardly any promotion of the trades for younger people (for better or for worse considering how you can shuffle around in McDicks making more cash+benefits.
The few commercial sites I've been to were majority Gen X and a bit of Millennials sprinkled out with the few Boomers who still have bodies capable of labour. On a jobsite of easily 50-70 men, there were probably less than 5 Zoomers including myself.
>What do you think they'll do lol.
I've seen firsthand the apathy and/or indecisiveness of Gen Z, many of us are content with drifting aimlessly about in the concrete jungles. That being said, based off my encounters, it's a 50/50 split between goal-oriented individuals with a plan and those who simply do not know what to do. I imagine it'd be quite difficult for many of Gen Z to muster the motivation and dedication to get a degree or journeymans ticket.
With that all in mind+current social trends, I would predict Gen Alpha would be even less inclined to get into the trades as there will be less and less apparent incentives for starting a career as a tradesman. Labour and working with your hands are antiquated concepts to most people, they'd rather chase a degree (even if the graduate market is inflated) or simply work in service/sales.
There's very few incentives to enter the workforce as a labourer who makes just above minimum wage when you can work in a heated/air-conditioned building in sales/hospitality or as student intern making just as much or more+extensive benefits and paid vacation time.
You're thinking of experienced workers/journeymen.
Unless one has a background in the trades and knows what they're doing, a fresh HS graduate has the option of starting off as a helper/labourer/apprentice and it depends on the trade but most of them will be making a little above minimum wage in their area but nothing crazy. The kicker for most is that they're making roughly the same as their peers who went into fast food, retail, sales, etc. but without the extensive company benefits (dental if they're lucky) and they have to buy all their tools and pouches which could easily go into the hundreds. They're also expected to deal with inclement weather and the dangers of working on a construction site.
Yeah you could argue that the skills from trades are worth their weight in gold and I'd agree but most people don't see it that way. The reality is that with each passing generation, less and less young people are considering trades as a viable career choice.
Other trades than construction exist, study thy aptitudes and options in detail not in general. My wastewater treatmentbro makes bank for easy work and will never be laid off unless Americans cease to shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How does someone get into waste water at entry level? What does someone need to know? I like public sector work and want to go into it
So much stupid packed into a single post. Has to be some sort of troll AI.
3 months ago
Sieg heil
Nope just lucky in life. My family members did shit like work at Lowe’s before retiring on family money, but most didn’t work period
3 months ago
Anonymous
Its literally just bepis, but he made the persona the exact opposite of what he normally posts to try and throw people off.
His reddit spacing is deliberate, because he refuses to do so with his Bepis persona for instance.
>What do you think they'll do lol.
I've seen firsthand the apathy and/or indecisiveness of Gen Z, many of us are content with drifting aimlessly about in the concrete jungles. That being said, based off my encounters, it's a 50/50 split between goal-oriented individuals with a plan and those who simply do not know what to do. I imagine it'd be quite difficult for many of Gen Z to muster the motivation and dedication to get a degree or journeymans ticket.
With that all in mind+current social trends, I would predict Gen Alpha would be even less inclined to get into the trades as there will be less and less apparent incentives for starting a career as a tradesman. Labour and working with your hands are antiquated concepts to most people, they'd rather chase a degree (even if the graduate market is inflated) or simply work in service/sales.
There's very few incentives to enter the workforce as a labourer who makes just above minimum wage when you can work in a heated/air-conditioned building in sales/hospitality or as student intern making just as much or more+extensive benefits and paid vacation time.
said, the quality of life for the pay/benefits it gives are the top two reasons as to why Gen Z aren't getting into trades like previous generations. Every burger flipper or walmart wagie is offered various college scholarships alongside the pay which really helps bring in even the non-intellectual young adults who would traditionally work the kind of jobs like trades, since a college degree is a ticket to both economic and social advancement. Amazon warehouse workers have relatively stressful and laborous positions, but they get quite the hefty bonus compared two the two institutions who suffered the most from Zoomers wanting to go to college: Trades, and the Military.
I guess that the total deindustrialization of the country doesn't help either. If Ford still made their cars in Detroit then without a doubt there'd be a lot more zoomers like me going into the trades. The only trade jobs that make serious cash are either losing all your weekends becoming self-employed or as a company veteran building and maintaining shitty condos and coffee roasteries for rich hipsters. There's no purpose, no drive in the work. I'm studying to become an ATC guy myself in part because there's countless flights every day. The future looks bright for aviation. Not so much for heavy industry, all the solar panels and lithium batteries are still being made in China despite the 'best efforts' of Washington DC.
Actually, ATC *was* almost destroyed by it. The FAA required from 2013 to 2018 for prospective controllers to take a 'biographical' test in addition to the standard assessments. Who knew, but apparently hiring people to stop planes from crashing into eachother did not benefit from "biographical diversity", whatever the hell that means? They're certainly a part of the current problems with a high amount of near miss incidients. Many of these hires quit during COVID because of the increased stress of a job they weren't qualified for, leaving a huge gap to fill that they're working on right now, but there's certainly quite a few still working. Though, the news really overblows the amount of near miss incidents because they'll take footage of perfectly a take off from a certain angle that makes it look like they're 10 yards apart (when in reality they are taking off perfectly fine).
As for the robots, ATC has certainly been assisted quite a bit in many aspects, but It'll be one of the harder jobs to automate compared to manufacturing, truckers or coders. Few will vote for a politician who says they're going to put robots in charge of preventing plane crashes, and there are many complexities of the job beyond simple readouts of glide slope or altitude.
A common scenario at less busy airports open to General Aviation (mostly small planes flying around for training or fun, not really business), you'll have to help a amateur pilot with some of his controls he can't remember. And one time this guy everyone knew who flew on a regular schedule suddenly sounded off in his voice, something about his tone or pace. As a precaution, we called an ambulance to the runway... lo and behold he was almost dead after nearly crash landing. An AI would never have remembered the name of a certain pilot, his manner of speaking, recognize that his voice was irregular, and a have the authority to put the medical team on alert. Those are just two examples of many.
that's exactly the type of thing a properly encoded artificial intelligence would be far superior to a human at doing. think about it, all you did was use your hearing and your memory of sounds. computers are already vastly superior at doing this, and have been for years. all it takes is a simple government mandate and you are fricked. you should pick a trade that they would at least need a robot to do
>ATC Biographicical assessment >somehow rambling about diversity
You stupid Black person, those aren't even in the same spheres, and the Biographical Assessment was replaced. You now take the MMPI if you can make it past the ASTA. The BA was literally a basic psych test making sure you weren't a complete sperg.
They definitely don’t get bonuses. But they are well paid for the fact that almost all of the jobs are “scan a box, do what your computer tells you” and the health insurance is great.
Also, much of the bad press that Amazon warehouse work gets is because fat slobs think they should be able to do warehouse work, and if their feet hurt it's Amazon's fault. Back in the day I worked in textile mills and fat slobs just didn't even try to work there. Little old ladies could work their asses off for 8 hours straight, same as the rest of us, but you had to be in decent shape.
Take pic related for example. She's practically "normal" by american standards; 30 years ago she wouldn't dream of working in a warehouse or factory, but nowadays Amazon has to accommodate this type.
This. Amazon is gay and shit and those jobs are still shit as far as real jobs go, but as an every level warehouse job? It is safer, better paying, and easier than other warehouse jobs. Don't do this job as anything other than an emergency job or first job if you are competent, not moronic, or an addict.
There will be no jobs left soon that AI won't be able to do. Except for the trades of course. No AI in the world will ever replace roofers or plumbers.
my dad used to work at Madison Industries
they're the people who build the prefab sections that become all kinds of buildings
it's not a new concept
https://www.madisonind.com/modular-prefab-construction/
>There's hardly any promotion of the trades for younger people
Literally all I see on social media 24/7 is tradies larping about how cool their back breaking labor is and how kids should become tradies
The worst is oil rig gays, Black folk unironically brag about working 100+ hour weeks
>can shuffle around in McDicks making more cash+benefits.
No you cant. Experienced and specialized tradies make a lot of money. Especially if you are self employed.
If I were a zoomer I would 1000% take a job at McDonald’s over trades
McDonald’s:
+pays more
+ air conditioned
+ girls in restaurant Industry frick literally everybody/every coworker
+can talk to coworkers (trades have ear pro )
+McDonald’s pays for college after a certain time
Entry level trade:
+minimum wage
+ have to learn Spanish or decipher clicks and whistles and “my friend come here do this”
+ no benefits
+ oil mist in air
+ gets paid much less, have to buy tools
+ too tired to hangout with restaurant bawds after work
+ can’t go to cool events after work because covered i oil, dirt, grease drywall
+ plus no time to hangout have to go to the industrial supply because have to buy a $250 ridgid pipe wrench off the clock for the job that pays minimum wage houly because your boss won’t let you buy tools clocked in
Everything you wrote in this post is fricking idiotic clearly you've never had a 'trade' job namegay
I understand youre likely a loser with no valuable skills, No Problem! Join a union! Pipe Fitters Union is hiring! Remember when you used to put the round pegs into the round hole? Now you can get payed to do it for $30/hr! >union
I know, contract work is a lot better but I think you need higher than a room temp IQ for that. Start small buddy
>girls in restaurant Industry frick literally everybody/every coworker
youre either indian or watch too much porn/tv >can’t go to cool events after work because covered i oil, dirt, grease drywall
definitely indian, shower
Saw an earlier post of you saying youre a machinist making minimum wage.
I went from machinist -> mechanical engineer at a company -> private design consultant + Sr. ME in 9 years. I dont have a degree, work experience are more valuable and work ethic more so. Money is nothing, I would give up everything I have if I could find 1 good person to work alongside.
Get your money up not your funny up. Dont demoralize others because youre a loser
yes but you're making the mistake of assuming that his array of skills is overall less useful than yours, so when you're sitting on the toilet taking a shit and you don't wipe properly afterward, god is only laughing at you as the gen-zer walks away with a clean butthole
Im picking up the slack of fricking 30-40 years of absolute dog shit techs and workmanship. It's better when I get a 50 year old lead sealed splice case because that at least will be pristine.
I get where the kid is coming from. My parents didn't teach me shit, but I had patient people at work teach me basic shit. I have met zoomers and millennials that don't know their head from their ass, and I've met boomers and gen x'ers that have zero idea how to train besides "doing it once, expecting you to have it down, and getting mad when you clearly couldn't "
I’m a Canadian ‘97 zoomer, a Zoomer Prime if you will.
Out of my closest high school friends, one of them just finished his Masters in Pharmacology, other is a plumber who bought a house at 25 without even being done his apprenticeship, and I have some twin buddies that both work together doing paintless dent repair on cars.
The trades are fine, and once boomers are gone I’m sure a lot of Millennials and older Gen Z’s will be picking up unlimited apprentices for nice tax breaks and shit so they can retire early and let the new guys take over.
I just finished school for Architectural Drafting and couldn’t find any fricking work so just got accepted at a Heavy Equipment union. Pay literally starts at $31/hr and every 1000 hours on each piece of equipment your hourly boosts up to $38, then in the 40s, and once you’re a journeyman it’s $52. Each year it goes up 3 bucks.
So assuming you’re in for like 5 years you could potentially make $100k. Obviously you won’t because I’m sure half the fricking year you’re out of work, but we’ll find out.
I think kids just need to discover unions because it’s very boomer-y. Once they’re gone though I’m sure it’ll modernize quite a bit.
GenXer here. I don't even know if public high schools even offer trade courses like they used to. Probably depends on the state, but when I was in high school there were auto mechanic electives, 4H for farming and livestock. All kinds of shit. They even had programs where the credit hours could be applied to particular trade schools they had programs with.
The internet makes it easier to go learn shit on your own. But someone would really have to search out a school or program that isn't a ripoff.
Millennial here. At least in my area, every single program like that was cut during the implementation of the "100% college ready" meme in the public educational system.
I had the same experience in high school. Everything was all about preparing you for college. If you gave even the slightest mention towards any job that involved working with your hands every adult in your life was suddenly talking it down telling you that it would be worse than a death sentence. You would be struggling to survive on $12/hr for the rest of your life and living in a torn down apartment in the worst part of town.
Today most of my tradie friends have their own houses and everyone else is stuck living at home because their job wont even cover rent for an apartment in the shittiest part of town.
Yes and no, we have a couple highschool co-op kids at our company (309A electrician) and they're amusing to have around, but also very fricking moronic and I have to keep and eye on them more than I probably should. I'm mostly afraid they'll hurt themselves because the new generation of kids seems to not have "eyes", in the sense that they don't assess situations before they get themselves into them. I'm not concerned about getting a pay cut because it'll boil down to people getting what they pay for, and with electrical, it's not usually something people can cheap out on without it having tangible consequences and I know my worth.
All the trades require college degrees for office positions now, so if you thought you would get in and move up good fricking luck, you're more valuable out busting your ass 50+ hours a week. No wonder why the kids don't think it's worth it.
YES
But anon you'll get a huuuuge paycut. Hence the pic.
Hardly any Zoomers are getting into trades compared to the ones going to college or nothing at all. What makes you think Gen Alpha is going to? There's hardly any promotion of the trades for younger people (for better or for worse considering how you can shuffle around in McDicks making more cash+benefits.
The few commercial sites I've been to were majority Gen X and a bit of Millennials sprinkled out with the few Boomers who still have bodies capable of labour. On a jobsite of easily 50-70 men, there were probably less than 5 Zoomers including myself.
I don't think they'll be going to college after two generations of bad experiences. What do you think they'll do lol.
>What do you think they'll do lol.
I've seen firsthand the apathy and/or indecisiveness of Gen Z, many of us are content with drifting aimlessly about in the concrete jungles. That being said, based off my encounters, it's a 50/50 split between goal-oriented individuals with a plan and those who simply do not know what to do. I imagine it'd be quite difficult for many of Gen Z to muster the motivation and dedication to get a degree or journeymans ticket.
With that all in mind+current social trends, I would predict Gen Alpha would be even less inclined to get into the trades as there will be less and less apparent incentives for starting a career as a tradesman. Labour and working with your hands are antiquated concepts to most people, they'd rather chase a degree (even if the graduate market is inflated) or simply work in service/sales.
There's very few incentives to enter the workforce as a labourer who makes just above minimum wage when you can work in a heated/air-conditioned building in sales/hospitality or as student intern making just as much or more+extensive benefits and paid vacation time.
Tradesmen are not getting paid minimum wage... Well I could be wrong then still though
You're thinking of experienced workers/journeymen.
Unless one has a background in the trades and knows what they're doing, a fresh HS graduate has the option of starting off as a helper/labourer/apprentice and it depends on the trade but most of them will be making a little above minimum wage in their area but nothing crazy. The kicker for most is that they're making roughly the same as their peers who went into fast food, retail, sales, etc. but without the extensive company benefits (dental if they're lucky) and they have to buy all their tools and pouches which could easily go into the hundreds. They're also expected to deal with inclement weather and the dangers of working on a construction site.
Yeah you could argue that the skills from trades are worth their weight in gold and I'd agree but most people don't see it that way. The reality is that with each passing generation, less and less young people are considering trades as a viable career choice.
Other trades than construction exist, study thy aptitudes and options in detail not in general. My wastewater treatmentbro makes bank for easy work and will never be laid off unless Americans cease to shit.
How does someone get into waste water at entry level? What does someone need to know? I like public sector work and want to go into it
Machinist here, absolutely making minimum wage actuall you lose money working because mitutoyo and starett are so expensive.
My parents paid my way through college and cover my bills though so I wouldn’t do this job if I actually had to earn money to live
So much stupid packed into a single post. Has to be some sort of troll AI.
Nope just lucky in life. My family members did shit like work at Lowe’s before retiring on family money, but most didn’t work period
Its literally just bepis, but he made the persona the exact opposite of what he normally posts to try and throw people off.
His reddit spacing is deliberate, because he refuses to do so with his Bepis persona for instance.
Just filter him and your life will be better
I thought bepis drives a truck or something
As
said, the quality of life for the pay/benefits it gives are the top two reasons as to why Gen Z aren't getting into trades like previous generations. Every burger flipper or walmart wagie is offered various college scholarships alongside the pay which really helps bring in even the non-intellectual young adults who would traditionally work the kind of jobs like trades, since a college degree is a ticket to both economic and social advancement. Amazon warehouse workers have relatively stressful and laborous positions, but they get quite the hefty bonus compared two the two institutions who suffered the most from Zoomers wanting to go to college: Trades, and the Military.
I guess that the total deindustrialization of the country doesn't help either. If Ford still made their cars in Detroit then without a doubt there'd be a lot more zoomers like me going into the trades. The only trade jobs that make serious cash are either losing all your weekends becoming self-employed or as a company veteran building and maintaining shitty condos and coffee roasteries for rich hipsters. There's no purpose, no drive in the work. I'm studying to become an ATC guy myself in part because there's countless flights every day. The future looks bright for aviation. Not so much for heavy industry, all the solar panels and lithium batteries are still being made in China despite the 'best efforts' of Washington DC.
Diversity will kill ATC, it'll be done by computer soon, by law likely.
Actually, ATC *was* almost destroyed by it. The FAA required from 2013 to 2018 for prospective controllers to take a 'biographical' test in addition to the standard assessments. Who knew, but apparently hiring people to stop planes from crashing into eachother did not benefit from "biographical diversity", whatever the hell that means? They're certainly a part of the current problems with a high amount of near miss incidients. Many of these hires quit during COVID because of the increased stress of a job they weren't qualified for, leaving a huge gap to fill that they're working on right now, but there's certainly quite a few still working. Though, the news really overblows the amount of near miss incidents because they'll take footage of perfectly a take off from a certain angle that makes it look like they're 10 yards apart (when in reality they are taking off perfectly fine).
As for the robots, ATC has certainly been assisted quite a bit in many aspects, but It'll be one of the harder jobs to automate compared to manufacturing, truckers or coders. Few will vote for a politician who says they're going to put robots in charge of preventing plane crashes, and there are many complexities of the job beyond simple readouts of glide slope or altitude.
A common scenario at less busy airports open to General Aviation (mostly small planes flying around for training or fun, not really business), you'll have to help a amateur pilot with some of his controls he can't remember. And one time this guy everyone knew who flew on a regular schedule suddenly sounded off in his voice, something about his tone or pace. As a precaution, we called an ambulance to the runway... lo and behold he was almost dead after nearly crash landing. An AI would never have remembered the name of a certain pilot, his manner of speaking, recognize that his voice was irregular, and a have the authority to put the medical team on alert. Those are just two examples of many.
that's exactly the type of thing a properly encoded artificial intelligence would be far superior to a human at doing. think about it, all you did was use your hearing and your memory of sounds. computers are already vastly superior at doing this, and have been for years. all it takes is a simple government mandate and you are fricked. you should pick a trade that they would at least need a robot to do
>AI superior at analyzing an out of context issue and going outside its mandate to correct it.
The AI ATC would have likely logged that the pilot was failing to communicate properly on a controlled band and sent a fine instead of an ambulance.
I wish I wasn't older than the cutoff when I found out about this. Would have done ATC in a heartbeat.
>ATC Biographicical assessment
>somehow rambling about diversity
You stupid Black person, those aren't even in the same spheres, and the Biographical Assessment was replaced. You now take the MMPI if you can make it past the ASTA. The BA was literally a basic psych test making sure you weren't a complete sperg.
>Amazon warehouse workers
>hefty bonus
Dude, what are you smoking?
They definitely don’t get bonuses. But they are well paid for the fact that almost all of the jobs are “scan a box, do what your computer tells you” and the health insurance is great.
Also, much of the bad press that Amazon warehouse work gets is because fat slobs think they should be able to do warehouse work, and if their feet hurt it's Amazon's fault. Back in the day I worked in textile mills and fat slobs just didn't even try to work there. Little old ladies could work their asses off for 8 hours straight, same as the rest of us, but you had to be in decent shape.
Take pic related for example. She's practically "normal" by american standards; 30 years ago she wouldn't dream of working in a warehouse or factory, but nowadays Amazon has to accommodate this type.
You're a fricking idiot. And an butthole. 90% of your post is cope and stupidity. The rest is highly doubtful.
Unbelievably fat fingers dripping with bacon grease typed this post, while on their third break this half hour in the local Amazon fulfillment center.
Thank you for proving my point.
This. Amazon is gay and shit and those jobs are still shit as far as real jobs go, but as an every level warehouse job? It is safer, better paying, and easier than other warehouse jobs. Don't do this job as anything other than an emergency job or first job if you are competent, not moronic, or an addict.
There will be no jobs left soon that AI won't be able to do. Except for the trades of course. No AI in the world will ever replace roofers or plumbers.
prefabbed factory roofing units and plumbed assemblies. A 12 dollar an hour wage clicks it all together on site. its already being trialed.
my dad used to work at Madison Industries
they're the people who build the prefab sections that become all kinds of buildings
it's not a new concept
https://www.madisonind.com/modular-prefab-construction/
good information. thats some cool shit and I do like some of their building examples.
>No ai will ever replace artists
How likely is it that AI will take machinist jobs?
Shits getting pretty automated, spend enough money and you can just have some of these machines shit out a part with minimal intervention
They'll never make an AI good enough to hit the reset button
>There's hardly any promotion of the trades for younger people
Literally all I see on social media 24/7 is tradies larping about how cool their back breaking labor is and how kids should become tradies
The worst is oil rig gays, Black folk unironically brag about working 100+ hour weeks
People who fall for any sort career advice meme on social media deserve ridicule.
>can shuffle around in McDicks making more cash+benefits.
No you cant. Experienced and specialized tradies make a lot of money. Especially if you are self employed.
If I were a zoomer I would 1000% take a job at McDonald’s over trades
McDonald’s:
+pays more
+ air conditioned
+ girls in restaurant Industry frick literally everybody/every coworker
+can talk to coworkers (trades have ear pro )
+McDonald’s pays for college after a certain time
Entry level trade:
+minimum wage
+ have to learn Spanish or decipher clicks and whistles and “my friend come here do this”
+ no benefits
+ oil mist in air
+ gets paid much less, have to buy tools
+ too tired to hangout with restaurant bawds after work
+ can’t go to cool events after work because covered i oil, dirt, grease drywall
+ plus no time to hangout have to go to the industrial supply because have to buy a $250 ridgid pipe wrench off the clock for the job that pays minimum wage houly because your boss won’t let you buy tools clocked in
Everything you wrote in this post is fricking idiotic clearly you've never had a 'trade' job namegay
I understand youre likely a loser with no valuable skills, No Problem! Join a union! Pipe Fitters Union is hiring! Remember when you used to put the round pegs into the round hole? Now you can get payed to do it for $30/hr!
>union
I know, contract work is a lot better but I think you need higher than a room temp IQ for that. Start small buddy
>girls in restaurant Industry frick literally everybody/every coworker
youre either indian or watch too much porn/tv
>can’t go to cool events after work because covered i oil, dirt, grease drywall
definitely indian, shower
Saw an earlier post of you saying youre a machinist making minimum wage.
I went from machinist -> mechanical engineer at a company -> private design consultant + Sr. ME in 9 years. I dont have a degree, work experience are more valuable and work ethic more so. Money is nothing, I would give up everything I have if I could find 1 good person to work alongside.
Get your money up not your funny up. Dont demoralize others because youre a loser
McDs:
- can get fired over minor frick up
- cant take left overs home
Trade:
+ job is to make frick ups all the time
+ you're not a guest there, steal every fricking nail you see.
Never happen. Trades filter homosexuals.
Theyre all going for homosexual trades like electrical or HVAC.
Masculine trades like welding and plumbing are safe.
safe from zoomers but not from illegals
t. mason, we're all fricked
why would they do that?
I know a gen z kid, he went to college can’t find a job so wants to get into a trade
Kid doesn’t know what a tap is, doesn’t know how to use a socket wrench, doesn’t know what position-drive is, can’t work a circ saw
Keeps applying to maintenance jobs and goes “they’ll train me”
Like it’s their responsibility to teach this kid life
Sadly lots of our parents didn’t teach us shit which normally does get taught to kids, myself included
That's how it used to work and it's a reasonable expectation. But I agree he's delusional if he thinks he ll find one that way
yes but you're making the mistake of assuming that his array of skills is overall less useful than yours, so when you're sitting on the toilet taking a shit and you don't wipe properly afterward, god is only laughing at you as the gen-zer walks away with a clean butthole
>employers in entry level fields b***hing that they actually have to train employees
The trades are fricked because the generation who was supposed to take the mantle of "mentors" are whiny gays who unironically can not teach.
Im picking up the slack of fricking 30-40 years of absolute dog shit techs and workmanship. It's better when I get a 50 year old lead sealed splice case because that at least will be pristine.
T. Phone company construction.
I get where the kid is coming from. My parents didn't teach me shit, but I had patient people at work teach me basic shit. I have met zoomers and millennials that don't know their head from their ass, and I've met boomers and gen x'ers that have zero idea how to train besides "doing it once, expecting you to have it down, and getting mad when you clearly couldn't "
I’m a Canadian ‘97 zoomer, a Zoomer Prime if you will.
Out of my closest high school friends, one of them just finished his Masters in Pharmacology, other is a plumber who bought a house at 25 without even being done his apprenticeship, and I have some twin buddies that both work together doing paintless dent repair on cars.
The trades are fine, and once boomers are gone I’m sure a lot of Millennials and older Gen Z’s will be picking up unlimited apprentices for nice tax breaks and shit so they can retire early and let the new guys take over.
I just finished school for Architectural Drafting and couldn’t find any fricking work so just got accepted at a Heavy Equipment union. Pay literally starts at $31/hr and every 1000 hours on each piece of equipment your hourly boosts up to $38, then in the 40s, and once you’re a journeyman it’s $52. Each year it goes up 3 bucks.
So assuming you’re in for like 5 years you could potentially make $100k. Obviously you won’t because I’m sure half the fricking year you’re out of work, but we’ll find out.
I think kids just need to discover unions because it’s very boomer-y. Once they’re gone though I’m sure it’ll modernize quite a bit.
Im Spanish and I dont know what this unions are. I dont think they exist in my country.
How do they work?
I can only dream. Semi moronic tradies are still hot commodity.
>gen alpha
i thought they were still toddlers
The average Gen Alpha won't be born for another 6 years so there's no need to rush preparations.
GenXer here. I don't even know if public high schools even offer trade courses like they used to. Probably depends on the state, but when I was in high school there were auto mechanic electives, 4H for farming and livestock. All kinds of shit. They even had programs where the credit hours could be applied to particular trade schools they had programs with.
The internet makes it easier to go learn shit on your own. But someone would really have to search out a school or program that isn't a ripoff.
Millennial here. At least in my area, every single program like that was cut during the implementation of the "100% college ready" meme in the public educational system.
I assumed it was like that. Do public school even have music classes anymore?
I had the same experience in high school. Everything was all about preparing you for college. If you gave even the slightest mention towards any job that involved working with your hands every adult in your life was suddenly talking it down telling you that it would be worse than a death sentence. You would be struggling to survive on $12/hr for the rest of your life and living in a torn down apartment in the worst part of town.
Today most of my tradie friends have their own houses and everyone else is stuck living at home because their job wont even cover rent for an apartment in the shittiest part of town.
Learn to code, homosexuals
Apparently not
Yes and no, we have a couple highschool co-op kids at our company (309A electrician) and they're amusing to have around, but also very fricking moronic and I have to keep and eye on them more than I probably should. I'm mostly afraid they'll hurt themselves because the new generation of kids seems to not have "eyes", in the sense that they don't assess situations before they get themselves into them. I'm not concerned about getting a pay cut because it'll boil down to people getting what they pay for, and with electrical, it's not usually something people can cheap out on without it having tangible consequences and I know my worth.
All the trades require college degrees for office positions now, so if you thought you would get in and move up good fricking luck, you're more valuable out busting your ass 50+ hours a week. No wonder why the kids don't think it's worth it.