Are shoulder holsters viable for everyday carry or are they just a stylish gimmick?
Are shoulder holsters viable for everyday carry or are they just a stylish gimmick?
Are shoulder holsters viable for everyday carry or are they just a stylish gimmick?
They are peak aesthetics, and everyone that actually knows, knows that aesthetics are everything.
>everyone that actually knows, knows that aesthetics are everything.
post how you dress.
I'm a gray man, you'll never see me until it's too late
somehow an extra "r" made it into your typo
It shouldn't be stylish because the point is to conceal carry unless you are Bruce Willis hungover in wife beater.
Ankle holster is better tho.
Ankle holsters are shit
The most comfy for when you sit all day. Also very fast draw when you keep your arms crossed
good for concealment
catastrophic on the draw.
If you wear a suit/blazer/jacket all day every day, they're great.
I have a galco classic lite for my glock 43X, honestly its fricking brilliant in winter, covers up with anything, sinks into your armpit. I paid like $95 for it and I'd say it's worth it but do not pay $200-300 for a shoulder holster. The miami classic is very good but at the $175 they used to cost
Simultaneously best and worst. You can carry a full size pistol and two spare mags all day comfortably, plus easily draw from a seated position, but you have an odd draw and can't remove your coat.
I personally ankle carry because I'm in the car when I traverse the hood but when I get to the federal building where I work I need to take it off. I'd love an excuse to shoulder carry though.
the carry restrictions in federal buildings are unconstitutional, I don't recommend trying to be patient zero but you could maybe get enough people together to sue
>What do you mean I can't just walk into the Pentagon with gun? That makes no sense!
correct
>fat guy
>soi beard
>shoulder holster
>USP
ah, the perfect larper
Real question: every ccw shooting I see does not come down to the <1 second difference between appendix and some other, more comfortable carry. Is there really a good reason to carry in the fastest position rather than the most comfortable (or at least reasonably comfortable) position?
>Is there really a good reason to carry in the fastest position rather than the most comfortable (or at least reasonably comfortable) position?
No practical reason, as your first observation is absolutely correct. Comfort is second only to concealability. Speed of draw can always be improved through practice, regardless of carry position
no, since any real armed civilian is usually going to be in a position where the first best move is to seek cover before drawing and engaging, if necessary.
>every ccw shooting I see
all ten of them?
The better argument for appendix carry is that it put your gun right in front of you, making it easier to draw if you get into a wrestling situation. A gun at your side or behind you can get pinned down.
>Is there really a good reason to carry in the fastest position
yeah, its fastest. you want an example of speed mattering? look at that church shooter who got stopped by the guy running for commissioner. the first boomer to draw and a slow shitty 5-o-clock position holster and he got blasted before he could even unholster.
Has anyone ever tried legal warfare claiming they were flagged i.e. "assaulted" by that guy wearing a shoulder holster and spinning around
That's why you run a vertical shoulder holster
Thinking of getting one for my Jericho just to commit to the full space cowboy LARP. From what I've seen, it's the most comfortable way to carry, and with a bit of practice you can draw just about as quickly as you would from any other position. Clothing and concealment seems to be the biggest consideration, but if you've got the wardrobe for it, then do it.
Yes, unless your girlfriend gets cuddly in public and you didn't tell her you were carrying
As long as you wear 2 of them to carry 2 Beretta 92s
I switch to one if I know I'm going to be driving/wearing a suit all day. Limiting yourself to one type of holster is just limiting where you can comfortably carry and that's the kicker, you want it to be comfortable or else you aren't going to carry.
great for riding a motorcycle
Id love to get one for peak comfy carry in the colder months but a quality one from Galco is like 350 bucks and I dont know where to find one cheaper. But what sucks is there are so many places now that do not allow people to carry I almost feel like theres no point anymore if you cant do it legally.
Funny, more mass shootings = more places restricting firearms= more mass shootings.
I just got one in from Craft Holsters. Normal price about $200 but I bought on the black friday 25% off sale. I really like it but it's a bit thick on the gun side due to how the shoulder straps are mounted. They mount to this thick piece of leather (picrel) that's attached to the back of the actual holster part. The nice part is the holster part doubles as an OWB holster, but that's not a feature I really wanted. I suspect the Galco rig is more concealable because of this.
I can't remember what brand did this, but I remember seeing leather holsters where you could change the mount points to switch from vert to horizontal. I wish there was more of that
They are great and are also the best solution for sitting a long time, like if you drive for a living or have a lot of desk action
as someone that used one to carry a full size with mags, cuffs, light and multitool all over the place for years, I rapidly determined the most unsatisfactory component were the shoulder straps. They will wear on you rather quickly. I jurry rigged a mix of Galco holster compnents and off brand cordura harnesses to distriute the weight on to my shoulders rather than have the narrow straps dig into me.
do you think affixing some pads to the pressure points on the straps would help?
yes, anything that can broaden the surface area the straps contact your shoulder. Some older system (the single side ones without the mag pouches on the other side) had such a wide strap, but it was primarily to counter the weight just on one side of the body. the modern systems seem to forgoe this as weight is expected to roughly evenly distributed.
my shoulder holster fricks up the way my shirt looks because of the heavy ass revolver. I have to wear it over a jacket or vest. It looks really good otherwise
I have a cousin who works construction who does it, but he de facto wears a safety vest 100% of the time. It's in STL and he's never had to shoot someone but he's had to pull it out twice, his work has given him trouble for it but 100% worth it in his opinion. I should note he operates equipment so it is much more comfortable than waistband and sometimes the machines don't have AC so no sweat issues like IWB would have.
Good man, I wish I could use a shoulder holster, but my work requires no special garments and discretion is required so it's IWB only.
Does anyone remember that based schizo who made the white plastic shoulder holsters and sent rambling notes with every order? I can't find his website.
Yeah i do remember that, he probably died of covid.
Nah there's no way he would have gotten the vax. He's probably writing a manifesto somewhere.
Advantages:
Easier to draw while sitting
>More comfortable to wear
>Ability to do a do a stealth draw that looks like you are crossing your arms
>can take a shit without putting your gun on the floor or taking it off the belt
>you don't need to wear a belt
Disadvantages:
>Generally slower, though not by much
>Have to have a jacket or vest on
>Tough to draw if you are already in a physical altercation
>Have to flag the person on the left of you when drawing, and if you don't raise your arm your brachial artery
>Most ranges wont let you practice with them
I like them and carry with one about half of the time, but they are not for everyone
I like it a lot. Can carry my Maxim on tractor or excavator, snowshoes or hiking through the woods 10 hours a day no problem. Very comfortable and in the cooler months decent conceal to the minimal extent I need it. Downsides are of course well discussed, more expensive and concealment depends on clothing more, but it's definitely a great carry method as part of the mix if it's an option.
>Are shoulder holsters viable for everyday carry or are they just a stylish gimmick?
If you're wearing something over it like a suit jacket or coat then its the best way to conceal a large weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhaaNSkIkU
I don't understand why more people don't go for a cross draw. I've tried and practiced on many different ways even ankle holster and I've eventually settled on IWB cross draw.
I think the motion for your right hand to reach your left waist is the most comfortable natural reliable and fastest way to ready the weapon. Strong side draw always felt clunky as hell to me because you have to lift your arm up so high into an unnatural position.
I've been told that the reason they suggest strong side is to prevent you from accidentally sweeping yourself, but I don't see that there is significantly more risk of that with a cross draw. I've also heard the argument that you don't want the handle of your weapon facing outward to a potential attacker but this also doesn't make sense to me because on a strong side draw your weapon handle is facing in a direction that you can't even fricking see.
Anyway I just don't think the arguments against a cross draw are very convincing.
I should also add that it's more comfortable if you're lifting a shirt up before grabbing the weapon. Also if you're wearing a jacket or suit, holstering the weapon at your waist on your strong side is borderline insane.
I want to buy it to keep my wallet. Putting my wallet in my back pocket has caused me back problems when driving long distances. I had to put my wallet in the front pants pocket when driving and it is a hassle. The only problem with this idea is I might get shot when trying to pay something.
what are some recs to look at?
I seent here aliengear, craft, and galco. any others?