Are khopeshes actually useful compared to other swords? They seem worse than straight swords, which I assume are easier to make.
Are khopeshes actually useful compared to other swords?
Are khopeshes actually useful compared to other swords? They seem worse than straight swords, which I assume are easier to make.
They're not swords, they're axes
They're worse than straight swords for range, but in locked combat with a straight sword, the Khopesh nearly always wins because it's designed at least in part to easily trap and snap/tank enemy blades.
That said, you know it's the year of our lord 2023 right? Swords have been out of fashion for self-defense purpose for quite some time.
You hold it like a sword, and it's flat, with a long edge that can be used to slash therefore not an axe.
You hold it like a one handed axe and hack with it, like an axe. Its a fancy axe thats hard to break, that was how it was designed and that was how it was used
>and that was how it was used
It literally has a false edge for thrusting.
Some of them did yeah, for stabbing guys on the ground. Useful feature on an axe
Axes are not flat, bladed along most of their length, and they have hafts. Axes are made of a shaft and an axe head, this has neither.
Cleavers and Machetes aren't axes either by the way.
Ah yes, two people who have never held a khopesh nor read any period instructions for how to use it or seen any overview of data for how they were balanced arguing about how to use it.
That said, on one hand we have the guy suggesting a sword may be sued like a sword and on the other hand we have the guy absolutely certain that the sword isn't to be sued like a sword but instead like an axe, which is clearly (in some way not described) different from how a cutting-oriented sword would be held and used. Oh boy. If we're really lucky the latter guy will bless us with some insights on how you must cut in completely different ways with axes and swords, since the cutting edge works completely different between the two, despite him almost certainly never having cut anything with either. What a ricasso is? Don't ask.
Okay I completely agree with you but can you answer a completely off-topic question for me?
You wrote down “What a ricasso is?” instead of “What is a ricasso?” and now’s my chance to get some real answers since I’ve been raised speaking English my whole life. When people learn English as a second language, is it actually difficult to learn how to structure questions? I see it a lot because I need to manage and edit a lot of content copywriting by writers out in the Philippines/India, etc. and I see that issue come up a lot. Instead of rearranging the words to be a grammatically correct question, they’ll just slap a question mark at the end and call it good.
I’m not trolling or picking on you (I only speak one language, you obviously speak more than one, so props to you and all that) but I have been really curious about this for a long time.
Questions in a LOT of asian languages are denoted by placing a verbal question mark at the end of a statement, making it a question.
In Japanese, this is pronounced as ka(か). A statement like "that person over there" or "Ano hito de-su"(あの人です) is made into a question by adding ka at the end, making it "that person over there?" Or "ano hito de-su ka?"(あの人ですか?)
I've heard Korean, the various Filipino languages, and Chinese are the same. My friend who speaks mandarin told me chinese emphasizes a question with "ma" at the end.
So for Asians in particular, I would wager to guess that the way they construct sentences naturally, slamming a random question mark at the end is completely normal and natural.
Ahhh okay, that makes sense. I knew about adding “ka” in Japanese to make a statement into a question, but didn’t think to put 2 and 2 together when it came to Tagalog and the various other languages spoken in Asian/SEA countries. That’s really interesting and pretty damn helpful. Much appreciated.
I should mention I'm not the guy you're replying to either, English is my native language and I enjoy learning different languages as a semi-hobby. Linguistics is an interesting field as it ties into the history and culture of every society.
Answering your actual question, sentence structure can be a complete prostitute depending on the language you're coming from and going to. English to most other Western European languages doesn't generally showcase this as bad, but Asian languages are almost entirely different from ours in every conceivable way. English sentence structure in particular is very confusing to an outsider, because we have a lot of unspoken rules about how things are said, that we don't know until it comes up. Imagine if somebody said to you "the white large dog". It's technically correct but nobody would ever put those adjectives in that order unless they were an ESL speaker.
Khopesh pic for the thread topic
Oh 100%. My gf is ESL and there are so many complications in English that I don’t even think of until she makes a mistake in saying something.
As for the work I’m doing, it’s mainly just cleaning up word-vomit from a ton of outsourced writers because my clients were too cheap to pay native English-speakers a decent wage for decent content. I see a lot of bizarre errors that are actually hard for me to describe, so I’m always wondering where the writers are coming from originally. The cynic in me thinks they’re just working the word count to get paid more when they write crap like “So, kindly read on to the next section where we tell you how to fix iPhone not starting problem,” but I do wonder if it’s a genuine skill issue.
AI generation is going to put a lot of third-world content monkeys out of a job but it’s a hell of a lot easier for me to fine-tune and edit for voice. Sometimes I’d come out of editing and feel like I had a stroke lol
>Sometimes I’d come out of editing and feel like I had a stroke lol
I had this feeling the first time I went to Japan. I didn't speak English for three days, and then in a hotel room, a friend of mine called to ask how the trip was, and my brain stroked out and I had trouble stringing together a sentence above a 3rd grade level. The correlation between language and thought is an interesting one for sure
>The correlation between language and thought
Oh man, that’s an interesting one too. Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, right? Gets the noggin joggin.
>You hold it like a sword
you hold it like an axe though
>and it's flat
bronze was incredibly expensive
>with a long edge
it may shock you, but ancient egyptians didn't base their axe design on the scandanavian axe design. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why they didn't.
The egyptian epsilon axe - which the khopesh is a direct descendant of - is a flat bladed axe with a short haft and a long cutting edge. The mounting of the bronze blade to the wooden haft was a weak point, so they made the whole thing out of bronze, and since they didn't need the mounting points anymore they got rid of them to save bronze, and what they were left with is the khopesh axe. A short-hafted, flat-bladed, long bladed axe, just like the epsilon axe had been.
This thing can't snap blades stop being moronic
They are not really a sword, more of a stretched out axe.
>axe
Its just a heavy saber, boys.
No. They were among the earliest swords. They look cool but they suck and went out of style during the bronze age for a reason.
does the reason have to do with sea people
The khopesh was an axe though.
>Are khopeshes actually useful compared to other swords?
Think about it, when was the last time a khopesh was used in military? Like 300 BCE?
Other curved and straight swords were used well into 1900 CE.
>BCE
Someone's easily triggered.
Didn't think I'd still see such snowflakes in 2023CE.
>snowflakes
2016 was 8 years ago. Please die.
>getting mad someone used the wrong history pronoun
was the khopeshes used much outside of the bronze age/Egypt ?
>ARSH NAHL KESHANT RAPH P'TRA
>KOOR NAHL KHORESH GRI P'TRA
you ruined total war sit down
you talk like an elf
Total war has been ruined since Rome 2.
oh yes tell me about the stunning TW games since shogun 2
Unrelated but how far can you actually get with a full size gurka kukri? As far as wildly slashing at your opp and hitting arteries? Is the Kabar kukri based?
>meme axe sword garbage
Theres a reason why they fell out of use. Its garbage.
>Theres a reason why they fell out of use
Machetes and cleavers didn't fall out of use and the khopesh is structurally similar to the kukri which is still military issue.
>still military issue
So is a shovel but you arent going to realistically use it to fight.
So you saw an entire thread on ancient Egyptian weaponry, saw the pic showing the variety of weapons they used, asked what the neat curved sword was called, and then made a whole new thread about it instead of just asking your question in there?
>arguing over a weapon not used in war in 3500 years
/k/ kino
Yes, the FAS-FSP5 Khopesh is a useful weapon.
>which I assume are easier to make
they were cast
couldn't be easier
>I assume are easier to make.
The khopesh was a bronze weapon. It was cast as one piece in a mould. They weren't honed, the edges were hammered to thin them out into sharpness, in the process work-hardening the bronze. If anything, the curved shape made it easier to hammer out a really sharp edge without work-hardening it so much that it became brittle.