The cases of Wolf steel case .223 that I used to buy for $180 bucks cost like $450 now. Anything brass is close to 50 cents a round except for underpowered PMC bronze. Is there any hope of prices dropping or restrictions on cheap russian steel case ever again?
that's what you get for shooting boring normie calibers.
yeah man I sure am glad that 7.7 is so fricking expensive
shut up you nogunz homosexual
Lol nope Panda express used to buy orange chicken from russia, it's joe'ver also drumpf and O'Black person.
Not unless the money supply shrinks drastically
So, no
so you're saying my own money supply needs to increase drastically...
Aquire money anon, it solves all problems
I use to brush off this advice, but it's really that shrimple. Do whatever it takes,
>Are ammo prices ever gonna come back down?
Why would they? You morons keeps panic buying everything when the manufacturers put out a rumour that a shortage might be coming,
every
single
time.
Hey dipshit it's an election year, walmart doesn't hold the price low and the most affordable ammo we had has all been sanctioned and banned from import. It's not just muh ignorant panic buyers you fricking dumbass.
What an idiotic statement. Yes nobody regrets their carcano purchase which has unobtanium ammo and I'm sure all the 5.45 slavaboos agree with you too oh except their cheapest shit is over 70cpr. You are an unfunny buffoon.
its not panic buying if im always buying
>Is there any hope of prices dropping or restrictions on cheap russian steel case ever again?
If you look at the way the geopolitics are going, obviously not.
Even if the war ends today and eventually sanctions on Pussia are lifted, they'll keep that one ammo sanction in there for political reasons.
I doubt it’s even the lack of Russian ammo, but how much is probably being sent to Ukraine and Our Greatest Ally*
> but how much is probably being sent to Ukraine
Not much lately which will likely paradoxically lead to further increases in prices as multiple countries already started arming themselves to the teeth to avoid being next ukraine which drives demand up both on ammo itself and on metals.
It shifted up on two wars and false rumors, it'll settle back down eventually barring a mass shooting or bad election cycle.
>barring a mass shooting or bad election cycle
we'resofricked.jpg
i got chinese food last night and all the prices on the menu were crossed out and handwritten back $3 higher
Its only going to go up rrom here, dont expect prices to drop unless people dont have an excuse to panic buy.
Stop panic buying you eternal Black folk, you’re the cause of the price hikes.
What is panic buying and how do you "stop" it, bar eating into any stockpile if you have the luxury of even having one in the first place? If I don't have rounds, and some homosexual is selling rounds, I gotta pay their price.
There is a big difference to paying inflated prices over MSRP in a store and buying from literal scalpers. Frick scalpers and anyone who buys from them. A dry market is a dry market however, and capitalism dictates the shelf price. Or are you a commie?
>What is panic buying
Are you moronic?
Idiot midwit take, do you blame people instead of politicians because you're an ignorant pussy who wants to punch down? I bet you have never even written a letter like when they banned 7n6 and tried to ban m855.
>tfw still have over 5,000 rds of brass m855 and m193 from when walmart dumped it all on clearance for 15.5 cents per round
It's been years man, you are a pathetic no shoots. That's not something to show off. Also you must be exactly like the crybabies klayco talks about in his latest ak video, they have their stockpile but don't want to shoot it because they can't stand to not have as much pay current price to replace etc. Get good and shoot your shit man. Have fun, join a competition or two.
So did I
Then I shot them
Gunsoomers suck my nuts
>tfw still have over 5,000 rds of brass m855 and m193 from when walmart dumped it all
That was 2019 to early 2020. Anon it's been 4 years. You don't shot at all do you? You just call yourself an operator online but you don't operate. When was the last time you went for a run? 2016?
>shoot 5.56
>price goes up
>shoot 5.7
>price goes down
>mfw 5.7 is finally cheaper than 5.56
>tfw reloading 223 for less than 20¢
Not my problem
gib a qrd pls anon. How much time does it take per round and how much money goes into ur equipment?
I can crank out 1000 rounds in an hour while on company time. Load 2000 rounds and your progressive press pays for itself at today's costs. All my other reloading stuff paid for itself years ago with all the oddball calibers I shoot
55gr fmj bullets can be had for 5-6c, primers the same, and it's less than 10c of powder. This is all current pricing too, it's not like I'm sitting on a cache of components I got for pennies in the '90s.
It's called inflation. They spent the last 4 years destroying the dollar at breakneck speed even compared to usual. And there's no signs of stopping.
I hope you bought bitcoin or invested in something else that can beat inflation, because if your pay/investments haven't been going up by at least 10% a year, you're taking a pay cut.
This. Lockdowns times they turned the printers on and money printer go brrrr then Ukraine money printer go brrrr oh accounting error 60 billion too much frick it money printer go brrrr Israel is in trouble money printer go brrr
Damn they're too dumb to understand your sarcasm. Sad.
All I see is fedposting and other shitposting replies to that "sarcasm" and the guy who posted it originally is malding out at them.
It's shitposting all the way down
Prices don't ever go down.
Deflation is the apocalypse for them central banks
I mean I have witnessed ammo prices going down significantly like 5+ times in the past 15 years so I really don’t get why dumb gays like you say shit like this. Even 3 years ago 5.56 was like 70cpr. In 2014 it was expensive and then went down like crazy 2016-2019.
Midwit
what was the price in 2010?
>Is there any hope of prices dropping
Yes, insofar as it's part of normal market price fluctuation. Barring any new competitors in the market or some magic breakthrough that makes ammo production significantly cheaper though, it probably won't go back to pre-sandy hook prices.
>or restrictions on cheap russian steel case ever again?
Lol. Lmao, even. They russians are getting the treatment the chinese got a few decades ago. For us, that means one fewer source of cheap ammo. Once those import bans are there, they tend to stay.
Also to echo other anons ITT: you should expect exactly nothing about extreme price cycles (due to mass shootings, gun grabs, election year shenanigans, etc) to change unless gun owners learn to stop panic buying. Frick manufacturers and their armies of influencers who create panic buying conditions.
>44 magnum more expensive than 30-30
how did this happen
I was going to say yeah, but
>.30-30 still over $1/rd
but it's down to $0.79! Still bad but not as bad...but it appears we're just in a dip and it's about to go back up to $0.90 and back and forth. Frick me. I wanna shoot turdyturdy. And I want 7.62x39 to not be more expensive than 5.56 again so I can shoot my SKS. I'm finding more and more brass cased S&B and PPU on the range though so at what point do I just say frick it and start loading for it? $0.43/rd for x39...fricking hell.
https://ammopricesnow.com/30-30-win/
https://ammopricesnow.com/762x39/
Millions, no, BILLIONS will seethe
Stop projecting loser, you want things to change do it yourself, stop doing nothing while whining about others doing nothing.
Skibidi toilet rizz gyatt fr fr no cap to you too.
If children didn't want to die in shootings they would try harder to not be easy prey
if dems lose the 24 election then yes, if they dont then no
nO
>sharty thread
Frick off k you nogun losers
also qa deserves to get nuked again
hello fellow gun owning sbr enthusiast
I'm enjoying this and I sincerely hope you aren't serious because lmao
Lmao its like the scrawny nerdy kid trying to be edgy. Chill out pointdexter you might blow a fuse!
Your child will be next
is that kyle rittenhouse?
A bunch of NO GUN Black folk in this thread
I’d rather have no gun that whatever that turd in your pic is
Hello there ESL kun
Your containment board /misc/ is two doors over, next to lgbt and mlp
Probably not anytime soon. Underpowered still shoots and is fine for target shooting. Get good stuff for HD and the PMC for target if that's the cheapest.
Nope, never.
>restrictions on cheap russian steel case ever again?
to my understanding, Tula has been gearing up like crazy in Turkey. When that's set up, then cheap steel case should return to how it was, and as such prices for other ammos will drop with it. PSA also bought steel cased ammo production shit like 2 years ago and they should be rolling that out soon too. We're in this really shit time were it's an election year, recent bs regulations have ruined things, coming out of COVID gun grabbing, and the supposed solutions are trying to be slap dashed together. However, it's still not as bad as post-Sandy Hook when morons were buying 20rnd boxes of 223 for $40.
I've mostly been shooting 22lr and 9mm, as those prices are still stomachable. Reloading stuff is also back to the level it used to be (except primers sadly).
thanks for the info anon
>tula in turkey
Real shit?
>psa
I want to believe anon I really do.
Hand loading doesn't really save you much for a caliber as common as 44 magnum. It also takes time which you can't get back. Money is much easier to acquire than time is.
>inb4 you're here
I happen to like mongolian throat singing as a way to relax.
Calibers like 44 really do save you time if you want specific types of ammo, for example getting zero recoil ammo thats accurate can sometimes be difficult if cost is a thing, or if you want to train with full power defensive loads. I can make a 50 dollar box of hyper ammo for 5 dollars in materials. Reloading saves money if you're really into shooting particular calibers.
>tula
>turkey
Please don't frick this up. I mean it's Turkey so they probably will but PLEASE have some good QC. It would be a wallet saver.
I don't think the prices of /anything/ is going to come down any time soon.
It's interesting how the mid-price calibers seem to be the most affected though. Or it might be that fewer people shoot stuff like. 44mag.
>Or it might be that fewer people shoot stuff like. 44mag.
44 mag is now, if it wasn't already, a high dollar shooter caliber. If you're buying a 44 magnum revolver or carbine, it's gonna be $1k+. The days of $450 Rossis in 44 and 357 mag are behind us, as even they now command a premium. So, if you're gonna get a $1200 gun, you're probably not as worried about spending $1 a round. You could also just handload, but that seems to scare a lot of people off.
Most foriegn banned from import. Domestic cant catch up with supply.
Multiple wars going on that use popular calibers, and are being supplied by domestic production.
Even artillery stockpiles have been being used so fast production around the world has been ramping up.
Since 2020 guns have been bought by huge numbers of households that didnt used to shoot, and now want ammo.
The only reduced demand is probably Canada since they banned so many guns.
Then if it finaly goes down at all hoarders by so much that they stop lowering any further.
Safe to say it will be high for some years. Unless trump wins and completely goes isolationist and we end up no longer supplying ammo for others or needing as much for the armed forces and allies. Then it might catch up to demand in a couple.
>Unless trump wins and completely goes isolationist and we end up no longer supplying ammo for others or needing as much for the armed forces and allies
It really doesn't need to be that complex. Hoarders will often breathe sighs of relief when a non-democrat is in office, and that kind of slows down things. Without the direct fear, many won't feel the need to hoard and hoard some more. Fudds can go back to picking up a box of 50 for when they want to go shooting, and some guy with a hi point won't feel the need to go buy 3k rounds at inflated prices because it's gonna get banned soon. Whether those fears are warranted or not, they do play a very real role in supply.
>tfw 10mm is cheaper than .223
who's got the meme caliber now, /k/?
The sooner the war in Ukraine ends in Russia defeated the sooner prices go down. If Russia wins then prices will go up more because Russia is expected to do something fricking moronic like attack NATO if they win.
Best case scenario is Russia has just enough housecleaning to change geopolitical goals but no destroy their military industry.
A couple hundred rounds covers your carry, sport and training. Buying 1000s of rounds to shoot at trees because you like the pew pew sound or hoard for The Day of The Black Helicopters may be your right, but stop b***hing about the cost.
Your choice. You pay the bill.
200 rounds is maybe enough for your durr gun fudd, you're deluding yourself if you think a few mags is proper training if anything, thats a mere function check.
So, how may thousands of rounds do you need to train to hit a man sized target at 10ft? Per year. Approximately.
>russia 2014 but now it's 2024 and everything else from them was already banned so it's ammo now
>Election year just in general
>Covid gun buying was basically sandy hook 2.0 but times eleventy
>Post covid ammo demand still exists even if only a portion of covid buyers actually shoot
>Dem president just in general
>Eastern euro countries are switching to 5.56 so 7.62 is getting fricked into the dirt and they need the 5.56 to teach their guys
Pros:
>No one gives a shit about mass shootings now.
GLHF
>>No one gives a shit about mass shootings now
100% this
no one gives a shit about stopping them, just tallying which side does more. The odds of actual gun control now is very low IMO
gun buying was basically sandy hook 2.0 but times eleventy
gun prices didn't even go up during covid, it was exclusively ammo prices.
That was the strangest thing. Some guns got hard to find, prices went up a little, sure, but I found some neat stuff during that time for very good prices next to the moron tier priced ARs and AKs.
personally i don't see the point of shooting more than necessary to confirm your guns function, unless you're so new to it that you need to acclimate. for handguns a laser training cartridge is better than actual bullets. beyond that shooting is boring and i question why you'd be doing it.
Just shoot pistol. High quality brass 9mm is under 24cpr, which really isn't that bad.
I am now demorgablized
You guys, it's going to get waaayyyyyyyyyyyy worse as the election gets closer, and Trump inevitably loses. Get what you can ammowise NOW