>just probing >still taking more ground than all zigger offensives for the last 12 months >still killing ziggers by the hundreds daily >all for minimal casualties in return
You better hope and pray they ain't jsut probing right now, Vanya.
I deeply apologize for calling attack helicopters, if even a cheap piece of shit, with out of date electronics / weapons, poorly trained pilots and available in low numbers and like the Alligator can make a difference then the 800+ Apache's of the United States must be an ungodly force.
the show and the manga are shit and gay, but that scene is grossly out of context and badly remade. originally the guys on the ground are shooting with magic and not just plain arrows like in the webm.
>then the 800+ Apache's of the United States must be an ungodly force.
clearly not enough of a difference to eliminate goat herders after 20 years of thermal kill montages
>clearly not enough of a difference to eliminate goat herders after 20 years of thermal kill montages
Seems so considering the US held the country with extremely minimal casualties for 20 years with a small force. Said goat herders went into complete hiding and could only come out and attack after the US left.
Completely delusional.
The US only ever actually properly held a green zone inside Kabul, while the Taliban were all over the country negotiating political deals with the various tribes of Afghanistan.
That's how they were able to simply march in and take entire cities without firing a shot.
Yes but they werent fighting a peer force or a war, they were running counter insurgency, and even then they were very useful. In an actual war they'd annihilate.
>pigger anti-air defenses must be seriously deficient if attack helicopters do not need to do their rocket flinging attacks any longer.
Anon, the rocket pod attacks even when accounting for arcing up have a much shorter range than the standard Vikhr missiles carried by the Ka-52.
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I know this is bait but I'm too autistic to care. The one advantage Ka-52s have is that their ATGMs have a pretty impressive range. This means they can hang back out of range of any Ukrainian SHORAD and pop tanks from there. Longer range AA systems can't be within artillery range of the front so the helicopters are safe from those too, especially if they're staying low and popping up from behind treelines to fire. We saw a lot more shootdowns when Russians were on the offensive and they had to send helicopters out to hunt for armor, but being on the defense tips things in their favor because they don't have to expose themselves as much.
If helicopters can linger around and look for targets to hit with guided missiles that tells you something about the lack of ukrainian anti-air defenses. there is no other explanation to me.
Have they ever deployed Havoc's into the war or are they desperate not to lose any of them?
I have not seen footage of the Mi-28 since the first few months of the war. It is possible they are out there but the Ka-52 is doing most of the work.
>If helicopters can linger around and look for targets to hit with guided missiles that tells you something about the lack of ukrainian anti-air defenses.
Yeah, lack of Ukrainian AA 10+ km behind Russian lines is to be expected. Anything portable enough to get to the front doesn't have the range, and anything that has the range is an easy target for the Russians. This is why a proper western force would do everything they could to achieve air superiority before going on the offensive.
I know this is bait but I'm too autistic to care. The one advantage Ka-52s have is that their ATGMs have a pretty impressive range. This means they can hang back out of range of any Ukrainian SHORAD and pop tanks from there. Longer range AA systems can't be within artillery range of the front so the helicopters are safe from those too, especially if they're staying low and popping up from behind treelines to fire. We saw a lot more shootdowns when Russians were on the offensive and they had to send helicopters out to hunt for armor, but being on the defense tips things in their favor because they don't have to expose themselves as much.
I love the *concept*, but it's still poorly made and vulnerable to small arms fire. When used correctly and kept away from fire, it's the best Russia has and probably the best thing they've ever made still.
China will make a Ka-52 copy that's actually good, I imagine. More powerful engines, composite materials, better missiles that can be fired from cover then given a target after launch, and actually having some armor for the avionics so they aren't taken out by small arms fire.
When every single one is hand made with different parts eventually one of them was gonna do alright
I'm sorry, KA-52. I thought you were actually decent and not a total piece of shit that misses and gets shot down all the time.
>puccians are throwing everything they have to hold the front against an a country that is just using its reserves and probing
Good strategy
>im proobing, the offensive for realsies with the real legit not reserve super troops will begin in 2 more weeks
Almost as sad and pathetic as the northern snow Black folk
>just probing
>still taking more ground than all zigger offensives for the last 12 months
>still killing ziggers by the hundreds daily
>all for minimal casualties in return
You better hope and pray they ain't jsut probing right now, Vanya.
Seriously lay off the /k/opium it's embarrassing
>throwing everything they have to hold the front
I mean, when you consider the alternative course of action this is the lesser evil, right?
What alternative?
If there was an offensive we would see burned tanks on the field like it was in vugledar
>a country that is just using its reserves and probing
actually mentally ill
When ukrainians start attacking seriously, vatniks are going to run for their lives begging the good tsar to save them
This is why I come to this place.
Cope like this, you don't find anywhere else on the Internet.
You said the same thing for Kherson
I deeply apologize for calling attack helicopters, if even a cheap piece of shit, with out of date electronics / weapons, poorly trained pilots and available in low numbers and like the Alligator can make a difference then the 800+ Apache's of the United States must be an ungodly force.
Arguably the stupidest scene in anime and that's saying alot
the show and the manga are shit and gay, but that scene is grossly out of context and badly remade. originally the guys on the ground are shooting with magic and not just plain arrows like in the webm.
What in the goddamn?
Where is this from?
Looking at the uniforms, I think it was some anime called Owari Seraph.
>the 800+ Apache's of the United States must be an ungodly force.
Absolutely true, look at what they did to the Iraqis in the gulf war
>I deeply apologize for calling attack helicopters
>obsolete
God damnit, forgot a word.
No weapon is obsolete if the enemy lacks it's hard counter at the wrong time and place.
>then the 800+ Apache's of the United States must be an ungodly force.
clearly not enough of a difference to eliminate goat herders after 20 years of thermal kill montages
>clearly not enough of a difference to eliminate goat herders after 20 years of thermal kill montages
Seems so considering the US held the country with extremely minimal casualties for 20 years with a small force. Said goat herders went into complete hiding and could only come out and attack after the US left.
Completely delusional.
The US only ever actually properly held a green zone inside Kabul, while the Taliban were all over the country negotiating political deals with the various tribes of Afghanistan.
That's how they were able to simply march in and take entire cities without firing a shot.
>gets btfo'd with only 13 american casualties and gets occupied for 20 years
>b-but they only held the largest city in Afghanistan
Yes but they werent fighting a peer force or a war, they were running counter insurgency, and even then they were very useful. In an actual war they'd annihilate.
Watching the Apaches deploy out of Ft. Knox for Iraqi Freedom was impressive, to say the least. They extended from horizon to horizon.
SIR!
>Mi-24s shot down with ATGMs: 0
>Ka-52s show down with ATGMs: 2
Hind > Ka
well at least russia learned from their mistakes it seems...
posting the same pic of the leopard won't save puccia ranjeeesh
if uk is admitting that russia is actually using their helis properly this time shit is already hitting the fllor anon
>pigger anti-air defenses must be seriously deficient if attack helicopters do not need to do their rocket flinging attacks any longer.
Anon, the rocket pod attacks even when accounting for arcing up have a much shorter range than the standard Vikhr missiles carried by the Ka-52.
If helicopters can linger around and look for targets to hit with guided missiles that tells you something about the lack of ukrainian anti-air defenses. there is no other explanation to me.
I have not seen footage of the Mi-28 since the first few months of the war. It is possible they are out there but the Ka-52 is doing most of the work.
>If helicopters can linger around and look for targets to hit with guided missiles that tells you something about the lack of ukrainian anti-air defenses.
Yeah, lack of Ukrainian AA 10+ km behind Russian lines is to be expected. Anything portable enough to get to the front doesn't have the range, and anything that has the range is an easy target for the Russians. This is why a proper western force would do everything they could to achieve air superiority before going on the offensive.
I know this is bait but I'm too autistic to care. The one advantage Ka-52s have is that their ATGMs have a pretty impressive range. This means they can hang back out of range of any Ukrainian SHORAD and pop tanks from there. Longer range AA systems can't be within artillery range of the front so the helicopters are safe from those too, especially if they're staying low and popping up from behind treelines to fire. We saw a lot more shootdowns when Russians were on the offensive and they had to send helicopters out to hunt for armor, but being on the defense tips things in their favor because they don't have to expose themselves as much.
Have they ever deployed Havoc's into the war or are they desperate not to lose any of them?
There's a few clips of them being shot down, so they're definitely being used.
Translation: Oi America, give 'em some more stingers
I knew my boy would come through in the end.
Shocking that a weapon systems works when you use it as intended.
>orc gunship painted with “karma”
How ironic
I love the *concept*, but it's still poorly made and vulnerable to small arms fire. When used correctly and kept away from fire, it's the best Russia has and probably the best thing they've ever made still.
China will make a Ka-52 copy that's actually good, I imagine. More powerful engines, composite materials, better missiles that can be fired from cover then given a target after launch, and actually having some armor for the avionics so they aren't taken out by small arms fire.
I kneel.
i apologize longer-range missiles.
You are a gamechanger.
Again..